300 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…

  1. Dover Sentry says:

    The BBC have still failed to produce a pro-Brexit news item or programme.

    Lord Hall of the BBC was warned about this recently by cross-party MPs.

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    • gaxvil says:

      We have, “Brexit Watch” on the World Service radio. The title more than suggests to the world a negative attitude and as for the content ………..

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  2. quisquose says:

    On Dominic O’Connell’s 6:17 slot on Radio 4 this morning he gave us a hat-trick of anti-Brexit and anti-Government guests.

    The story had already been repeated prior to his contribution about the CBI’s Carolyn Fairbairn’s continued sobs that Brexit risks “closing the door on the economy” and 100 business leaders have written an open letter against Brexit.

    First up we had David Cumming, head of UK Equities at Standard Life given free rein to rant against the Government, Brexit and Trump.

    Next we had Sarah Wood, CEO of Unruly, who was given free rein to rant against Brexit and restrictions on immigration.

    Finally we had Adam Marshall, who was introduced as the Acting Director General of British Chambers Of Commerce to plug his survey of 7000 businesses in which he said “this is the biggest private survey in the UK and it’s showing signs that growth has slowed since the referendum”.

    The parade of ant-Brexit guests was so remorseless that I was reminded of the scene from the film Airplane where a queue of people form behind Leslie Nielsen to beat the panicky woman. Dominic O’Connell seems to want to create a constant stream of Brexit bashing.

    Anyway, when has the “important” survey from the BCC ever warranted publicity before? Is it only important now because it confirms what the BBC thinks? Oh, and by the way, did you know that Adam Marshall works for the BBC? They didn’t tell us that did they.

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    • Number 88 says:

      The BBC, with their constant anti-Brexit carping seem determined to undermine sentiment and talk Britain into a damaging reaction to the vote. That way they can play their part in an, ‘I told you so strategy’.

      No longer providers of news (that function has long since vanished) they are activists, worming away, damaging the country and trying to build their self fulfilling prophesy…all for their own undemocratic ends.

      Lord Hall Hall, should be called into Number 10, this morning and sacked.

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      • Oaknash says:

        The trouble as I see it is that the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation is in a win/win situation and they know it.

        Basically they can broadcast whatever unbelievable propaganda they want and the Government is basically too gutless to take them to task on anything.

        If whatever shite they broadcast helps to suppress the economy then they look even better cos they can say “Look whats happening we warned you”

        It all becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.

        Quite frankly this traitorous organisation and its overpaid parasites have had a major role in turning this country into a shadow of its former self.

        The left always said it was Margaret Thatcher who was a major factor in the breakdown of society.

        But I think we all know really to blame. And despite all its self glorying plaudits it keeps on treating us too – the majority of people in this country are now seeing it for the divisive force it truly has become.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      And the CBI Head Carolyn Corbyn was a Director with the BBC for many years.

      No bias there then!!!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Brexit seems to be rivalling AGW for causing all ills, along with media and political derangement close behind:

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      • quisquose says:

        No comments allowed to that article I notice. Can’t have reality interfering with the cult’s message.

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      • Number 6 says:

        maybe they rose because the bbc are wankers

        just as valid a reason as any

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      • MartinW says:

        O.K. Well, here’s another one. I attack Angela Eagle.

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      • Number 88 says:

        ‘Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote’

        Prove it.

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        • Lobster says:

          Well, I make no secret of the fact that I am gay, and I can assure you that nobody has attacked me. My teeth and ribs were all intact the last time I looked.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Genuinely pleased to hear that, Lobster.

            To you or anyone else on this Thread at B-BBC, is it just me, or have we had no news from our national news broadcaster about the progress of police investigations into despicable post-Referendum racist attacks and that awful murder in Harlow? There seems to be some deafening silence or have I missed it on Radio Four?

            Could the silence be deliberate for some reason?

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            • rockefella says:

              The story quietly broke last week – under the cover of Steven Woolfe’s collapse, that Harlow was not actually a Hate Crime. It was on a Radio 2 news bulletin at 3.00 and also in the Essex section on the BBC Website. The Independent also ran the story. No retraction yet, from Juncker that Essex is not the epicentre of hate crime that he has told Europe it is and they all believe.

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          • Lobster says:

            It’s funny how Brexit gets the blame for these “attacks” isn’t it? We have also had a large increase in the number of Muslims in the country, but I don’t suppose for one minute that there is any connection …..

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      • matahari says:

        The truth is that by importing cultures where gays are killed for being gay it is obvious that pro open borders eagle is committing self abuse

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Well “Angie the Dyke” as Corbyn’s followers called her, did get a brick through the window. Clearly due to Brexit.

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        • Demon says:

          I think her smashed window was caused by “Bricks-hit” not Brexit.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Absolutely nothing to do with her challenge – from a centrist position in the Labour Party – to Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership from the Left. Just want to make that absolutely clear. She could not possibly have been serious, in true McEnroe fashion. Another reason for a couple of fascists to unite to heave a half-brick against a window: a phrase used by an American.

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      • Stewie says:

        Do they state whether or not that is the widely trumpeted ‘reports of’ or are they actually prosecuted with guilty verdict instances?
        They love the first but not the last as at that final stage we usually find the name of the culprit(s) which can often be a little embarrassing for them.

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  3. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    I wonder why Home Office official Charlie Edwards wants to gut the Casey report on immigration and integration and substantially rewrite it.
    I have just read about this in Breitbart. It seems that the contains a lot of things that could seriously hurt liberal sensibilities and that will never do. Apparently it contains such a lot of facts which could seriously damage leftists’ peace of mind. Such as ‘far right terrorism is not a threat to UK in the way that Islamic terrorism is’. And (this is really shocking) ‘the only hate murders of British Muslims in the past three years have been by other British Muslims’. Good Lord, we can’t let that out, can we?!!!

    So dear Charlie Edwards will get out his red pen and decide what is a suitably watered down, non-liberal threatening report to release to the peasantry. Who is this Charlie anyway? Anybody know?

    More importantly Amber Rudd should release the full version. I am generally not a fan of leaking documents but my ‘holier than thou’ high moral stance has buckled when it comes to the machinations going on over the Casey report. I want someone to leak it. Edward Snowden come back, all is forgiven!

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    • Umbongo says:

      Slightly nearer home: when can we expect to see the Balen Report also paid for with public money and (presumably) also providing unwelcome information to the organisation reported upon?

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  4. SupportOurLefty says:

    Friends! My new Blog – delayed, as ever, by the Hard-Right Virgin Rail – which is an objective and in-depth analysis of Jeremy’s literally stunning new Shadow Cabinet, is now literally available.

    And am pleased to say I actually managed to get Diane to stop shouting “Racist!” for long enough for her to play the organ for the Blog’s parting song, my specially-updated version of the Red Flag.

    https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/10/10/jeremys-new-shadow-cabinet-is-literally-the-best-labour-shadow-cabinet-ever-friends-it-is-literally-the-envy-of-the-world-and-indeed-elsewhere-no-wonder-the-tories-are-utterly-terrified-of-it/

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  5. Pat..original says:

    Bit of ‘light hearted banter’ on Radio Devon this morning between Simon Bates, presenter and local, well liked sports reporter Gordon Sparks. The topic was Terry Thomas and Leslie Phillips.

    GS – Fine, fine actors in the English tradition. Can we say English rather than British?
    SB – or Irish, nobody’s listening in Scotland I can tell you that….

    I am wondering if ‘English’ is now on the banned list. Even in jest to be concerned that it may be taboo is worrying.

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  6. Foscari says:

    One of the leaders on the BBC website this morning is ” Louis Smith apologizes.” Louis Smith the gymnast has apparently made a deeply offensive video clip shouting out Allahu
    Akbar whilst jumping off the parallel bars. Personally I don’t find it very funny. BUT
    what I do find offensive is the fact that it is necessary for my grand-children to have
    security like FORT KNOX to protect them in LONDON from the possibility of a terrorist attack
    from Islamic terrorists who would be screaming out ALLAHU AKBAR as they tried to cut the throats or blow up my grand-children. I don’t even expect we would even hear about it on the BBC for a few hours, and then we would be told that the suspects were mentally ill.

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    • vesnadog says:

      I don’t know which is more annoying: Muslims shouting “Allahu Akbar” towards another Islamic enemy forgetting that they worship the same god – allah!

      Or: whenever the Pope goes anywhere he always holds a Mass!

      One gets the impression that even if the Pope wanted to go to the shops for a fag, then his “brothers” would pull him back saying – hold on a mo bro, we must have a mass if you intend to go out anywhere! Pope, you do surprise me!? Don’t you remember what happened the other day, you did some weeding in the vatican gardens and we held one then – so we must hold a mass! We can’t not do, we must press on and have a mass!

      To me, both reveal much superstition !

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      • Banania says:

        “To me, both reveal much superstition!”
        Admirable evenhandedness, possible however only for one who is above such sordid matters.

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        • embolden says:

          Evenhandedness on this issue isn’t enough now.

          Liberal fence sitting is what has brought us to multiculturalism.

          Islam or Christian civilisation?

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Louis Smith the gymnast has apparently made a deeply offensive video clip shouting out Allahu Akbar whilst jumping off the parallel bars.

      I would have thought the Allahu Akbar phrase, given who has been using it of late, was well up for grabs for a good old piss-take. Or maybe the great British comic tradition of taking the piss out of all and sundry (it seems especially to apply to ourselves) does not extend to Islam which, in case anybody has failed to notice, leaves itself open to more ridicule and piss-taking than any other form of religion or politics on the planet, with the possible exception of the Scots Nats and the Greens.

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  7. Framer says:

    Louis Smith wasn’t mocking Islam rather the pillocks who endlessly shout Allahu Akbar whatever happens to them.
    It is like someone here uttering ‘Oh My God’.
    But the BBC would not require and replicate a grovelling apology for someone saying OMG.

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  8. Bob Nelson says:

    Thoroughly enjoying the Daily Politics as Conservative MP Oliver Dowden is steadily putting an increasingly agitated JoCo back in her box.

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  9. scribblingscribe says:

    We do have fun at the BBC and Labour party’s expense on these boards but I fear no satire in the world will be more extraordinary than real life events in the Labour Party.

    Over the last 12 months the influx of the Children of the Revolution into our branch led to the most wonderfully inane offerings on the local constituency’s Facebook page, culminating in how Corbyn was the next Nelson Mandela. A man who cannot unite his own cabinet, let alone his own party, compared to a man who, when he took office, united a country deadlocked by hatred and war .

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  10. G says:

    Germany to start deporting Afghans, apparently. Time will tell. But it will cost the taxpayers throughout Europe. I’d sooner see Merkel and Germany foot the bill since it was she who invited them. No doubt the cost of the exercise will run into billions of Euros. I guess another year of not signed off accounts for the EU?
    http://newobserveronline.com/afghan-fakers-get-boot/

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      “I guess another year of not signed off accounts for the EU?”

      Why break the habit of a lifetime?

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  11. gaxvil says:

    World Service – The Presidential Debate. I paraphrase a very little:-
    The ordinary American who, in reply to the “oppressed” man who called Trump, evil, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, islamophobic, said, “People are soooooo tired of being called racist which the Left use as a club to say, ‘You are wrong, you may not speak you may only listen because you are so prejudiced.’ He added, “If you want a lot of trouble for next few years this is the attitude to pursue.”

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  12. Kaiser says:

    Im confused

    Is it actually possible to be racist in beeb land if your (half) black

    Ah I see he insulted the “race” of islam so that trumped his (half) blackness

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  13. scribblingscribe says:

    No doubt many of you will already be aware of the enlightened thinker Mahamed Abdullahi, Vice President for Welfare and Community who has blessed us all with his views. He wants to axe the National Anthem from King’s College London University’s graduation ceremonies because, as he puts it, it is “outdated” and “just a bit shit.”

    Well, thank you very much for coming to our country, accepting our university courses, help with your housing, all your health care and dentistry paid for, along with travel concessions, not forgetting any welfare support to which you are entitled. Then, turning off Countdown long enough to tell us we are not allowed to have our national anthem because it upsets you.

    I am sure you are now thinking that Mahamed Abdullahi’s fellow student officer’s will be tumbling over themselves to point out he is full of hate, racism and well, if he doesn’t like the way we do things here he might like to hop off home.

    So which of his four colleagues will tell him of his errors: Momin Saqib, Vice President for Activities and Development, Mariya Hussain, Vice President for Education (Arts & Sciences), Ben Hunt, President or Jack Haywood, Vice President for Education (Health).

    Now I know what you are asking, how come if Muslims are only about 4% of the population they make up 60% of the student Union officers at this University?

    Thus leading to obvious questions: are a disproportionately high number of Muslims standing for office? Are UK nationals, Hindus, Sikhs, etc., disinclined to stand? Or, do students vote for Muslims over any other group? Intriguing isn’t it?

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    • gaxvil says:

      Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of Muslim this and Islam that. Britain is not in the Middle East for God’s sake.

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    • RJ says:

      “Thus leading to obvious questions: are a disproportionately high number of Muslims standing for office? Are UK nationals, Hindus, Sikhs, etc., disinclined to stand? Or, do students vote for Muslims over any other group? Intriguing isn’t it?”

      Or are there a lot more muslims here than the government is willing to admit (or even knows about)?

      I’m not waiting for a BBC programme on this one.

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    • G says:

      Scribblingscribe, its all part of the Islamic plan slowly unfolding to take over Europe. I include the UK in that principle. Just look at what the homosexuals have achieved in positions of political power or, ‘advising’ from (forgive me) behind with a concerted effort over the decades and consider what the Cult of Submission can achieve when there is no goalkeeper and the only defender has one arm and leg tied behind his back.

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  14. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC News Channel take time to tell viewers who have tuned in to get some news – how very marvelous is their BBC Radio 4 show Womens Hour.

    Can’t help but think that were ratings great at the moment then the BBC might not feel the need to plug their show so hard.

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  15. RJ says:

    In the Weekend Thread I raised a question about Brexit that the BBC has never raised in any interview. The answer to the question is near the end of Roger Bootle’s column in today DT.

    ” In its more lucid moments the BBC accepts that the vote to leave the EU means that we are leaving, but its reserve position is that we have to accept a “Soft Brexit” deal. I have one question about “Soft Brexit” that I have never seen asked in any BBC interview.

    To set the context:
    1) As a member of the EU we enjoy tariff free access to the EU market but we are required to impose the external EU tariff on imports from any country outside the EU, for example driving up the cost of food impported from Third World countries.
    2) The government has said that once we have left the EU we will negotiate free trade deals with countries around the world, and Liam Fox has already made a start.
    3) The BBC has said that the reason we need a a “Soft Brexit” is so that we stay inside the European Economic Area and retain tariff free access to the EU market.

    My question is: Can a “Soft Brexit” outcome that leaves us inside the EEA also allow us to agree free trade deals with other countries that mean we don’t charge the EU external tariff on their goods? Or to rephrase the question: Is “Soft Brexit” a cunning plan to keep us tied to the EU customs union?

    I do wish that the BBC would supply information rather than wall to wall emotion.”

    Roger Bootle’s conclusion on this is:
    “If we belong to the single market we are unable to manage our own trade relations with countries outside the Union. We have to impose the EU’s common external tariff and are forbidden from forging trade deals with them.”

    “Soft Brexit” is a trap and I now understand why the BBC is so much in favour of it, and why it avoids any detailed analysis of what it means.

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    • Tom_Kenny says:

      I’d like to know how much UK importers could save if the common external tariff on UK imports from outside the EU were eliminated, and what the existing tariff receipts are currently being spent on.

      We keep being told that sterling has fallen due to Brexit. Wrong. Brexit hasn’t happened yet. Sterling has fallen due to speculation.

      Any fall in the price of imports (for example following tariff elimination) would help to offset the fall in sterling.

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      • taffman says:

        Watching tonight’s news – I don’t think that Al Beeb like Trump ?
        Well Done Al Beeb your propaganda is so transparent a child could see through it . Stick to making Blue Peter.
        😉

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        • Stella2 says:

          The so-called news and current affairs pumped out by the BBC seems to have hit new lows today, if that is possible. I wasn’t quick enough to avoid BBC1 at one o’clock, and stood before the TV in horrified fascination as the running order went something like:

          Trump bad, Trump Unbelieveably Bad, Hillary plucky little woman (in strange Mao suit) who might have had to deal with a tricky husband but that’s not her fault, and unfair to pick on her, someone else to tell us how Trump had fallen out with “the Republican Party” and finally, their own agenda-driven commentator finishing with a flourish of Trump bashing and a classic bit of casual bias by informing us that Pence was still standing alongside Trump “for now”. None of it really news, none of the enlightening new facts that used to be a prerequisite of a news service.

          Item 2 was a bid to save the UK from Brexit; “pressure groups” and Remainer MPs getting close to overturning our hard won exit. (Whhaaat? Turns out that – as ever – it’s not quite what it seems, and the BBC is the biggest anti-Brexit pressure group of them all.) Interviews with Remainer groups from industry and retail, terrible price rises, industry suffering…a lone voice saying that really it was swings and roundabouts and no cause for alarm, maybe even a glimmer of optimism – which small nut was rapidly crushed by the EUBBC hammer of damnation.

          So much opinion, so little reporting or informing investigation. I let out a howl of anguish and refused to listen to any more. And I really resent the fact that we have a national broadcasting corporation which constantly instructs us to celebrate diversity, where there is absolutely no diversity of opinion allowed.

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          • GCooper says:

            An excellent post! As far as I’m concerned, Radio 4 has turned into ‘the race channel’. I find it next to impossible to randomly switch on and not have my nose ‘rubbed in diversity’. As a consequence I am listening less and less to the rubbish it broadcasts. I doubt I am alone.

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    • Kennedy says:

      Back in the day I voted against the EU in the first referendum. A friend convinced me that it was discriminating against Commonwealth countries. We were both leftists. What happened in between so that the left now loves the superstate and discriminates against the Third World?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Interesting and excellent post, RJ. Well spotted.

      This point: “1) As a member of the EU we enjoy tariff free access to the EU market but we are required to impose the external EU tariff on imports from any country outside the EU, for example driving up the cost of food impported from Third World countries.” made me realise that talking up possible tax on so-called sugary foods and so-called sugary drinks has subsided at the BBC somewhat. I feel certain that would have been a foot in the door to introduce widespread food taxation for the UK in future, had we voted to Remain.

      Perhaps Brexiteers need to keep asking questions about an EU army, EU forthcoming product regulation, EU tax on foods, the EU Tampon Tax, etc., to keep up the pressure that it really is worth leaving the EU even if we do not consider it to be a failing Union or dysfunctional Union or deceptive Union aiming to be a future State.

      Carolyn Fairburn’s appearances (as DG of the CBI) on BBC R4 last week reminded me that she was another, pre- and post-Referendum, who just do not understand how tariffs, especially EU tariffs, work.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Head of Radio Helen Boaden gave a kind of resignation speechtelegraph covers

    After announcing her resignation last week, following 33 years at the corporation, Boaden, 60, said
    “I see a lot of young men who have a massive sense of entitlement and it drives me bloody bonkers. They’re usually posh young men, they’re normally quite attractive”
    ** ALARM : Management commenting on physical attractiveness of subordinates of opposite sex ..off to Trump jail with her **

    “I see the born-to-rule, very entitled people in the BBC,…. they’re mainly near the top, and I’m glad I’m not like them.”

    Source : The news stories all originate out of the PA
    It says she said it in an “Independent Radio interview”, I ‘d like to listen to it, but I cannot find it..not even on Twitter.

    I cannot believe BBC management can preside over massive misuse of public money and then walk away with huge pensions.

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    • Dave S says:

      The same Helen Boaden who,I assume, was on minimum wage at the BBC. People like her are beyond words. A real piece of work.

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    • Guest Who says:

      That ‘attractive’ comment is quite special for ‘Hugs’.

      It’s probably in her DNA.

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  17. taffman says:

    Listening to Al Beeb and the media this morning, its time to send this out again as some MPs are having ‘cold feet’ ………..
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618

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  18. G says:

    ‘Hate Crimes’. Interesting article apparently referring to the London Evening Standard 7th October. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9100/mockery-islam

    Worth following the story to watch how the ‘opposition’ to the British White population (BBC, Liberal Politicians, Islam lovers et al.) treat this one. I’ll bet a fiver that the Police do not take it further as a so-called, ‘Hate Crime’. What would have happened if it were a reincarnated version of the BNP instead of a Mosque in Walthamstow?
    I observe that these a***oles are gradually, bit by bit, getting a firm grip round our necks. I would like to think that a point will be reached where the public en masse stand up to be counted and turn to oppose these fundamental changes. But that’s at the bottom of my reality wishlist.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    $Million competition
    Complete the phrase : Greens ___

    Page 3 of the Times …shows the Eden project is based on a ___ valued at £56m
    The Dutch man who founded it Tim Smit found he wasn’t getting any money from the Millennium Commission
    “faced with the “car crash” of being turned down for public funding, he decided that it “was surely the time to ___”.
    so he set up a fake press conference in a tent saying that they actually had ..So the Times wrote a glowing leader saying the how insightful the Millennium Commission was ..and they came round over the next 6 weeks

    \\He told the festival that f______ was the “telling of future truths”//

    For flips sake, how sustainable are green projects if they need a £56m kick start from Lottery Money ?
    They say “but see it brings in the tourist money”, Yes, but I wonder what the total subsidy they have received over the years ?
    BTW They frack there for geothermal (Fracking is the normal process for geothermal, though greens will never tell you that)

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Eden received more than £132m (in grants) from 2001-2009” Says a BBC page
      Well that works out at £14.7 to 16.5m/year ..which is about the same as the damn turnover.
      What kind of business receives grants that are the same as its turnover ?

      We can say those grants make about £15/visitor
      Surely you can take a normal Cornwall beach and “If you come I’ll give you £14 free beer”
      and then I’d argue that you coming was contributing £100 to the local Cornawall economy.
      and I’d still walk away with a £1/person profit if I had the same grants as Eden has had

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  20. gaxvil says:

    Ultimately I just don’t see how this country will function in the future, governed and administered by an Islamic / LGBT / BLM / Socialist coalition.

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    • G says:

      gaxvil, they talk about so few houses these days. When that form of governance to which you refer comes about, the talk will be of far few caves to go round. Glad I won’t he here.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      There’ll be so much in-fighting – ejections from the tops of buildings featuring heavily – they will self-destruct.

      However, long before they’d had a chance to reach that inevitable point of conflict the eco-lobby will have reduced the country to chaos as an inevitable consequence of catastrophic energy shortages.

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  21. gaxvil says:

    Guess a lot missed the report that Bin Laden was seen poking a sheep. An onlooker explained, it was, ” ‘is lamb “.

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    Last week we had a dose of Climate Change from the BBC: (Paris Accord being voted in tout suite) and the Daily Mirror with four months of global cooling and heavy snow. That last media organ almost guarantees there will now be a warm, wet winter although it is usually the Daily Express that gets its predictions back to front or comes up with a completely contradictory f/p headline within days.

    I have three climate observations on a micro & personal level. We’ve had another good summer and a glorious September down in the south-east UK. Commiserations to those who have not been so blessed elsewhere in the UK.

    However, the sunny weather has been tempered all the time by chilly winds. In addition, soil temperature (which I have mentioned before on here) has also remained unusually cool. Garden growth has also been excellent, no doubt on the back of the extra CO2 released over the last couple of years.

    The BBC reports record temperatures and an overall global warming. That has only appeared to be beneficial so far and definitely not harmful. Will they report extra deaths from cold – and blame the cold (rather than the NHS) – if the Mirror’s prediction comes true?

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    • Old Goat says:

      1st frost forecast here, in central southern France, tomorrow. Fires lit each evening for the past three days. The winter could go in any direction, no-one really knows, as ever, but if there IS a severe cold snap, (or two) bet your life everyone will be caught with their pants down, as usual, and blame global warming. I believe that the planet is slowly cooling, but it will take years for the eco-warmists to admit it, by which time the power infrastructure across Europe will be well and truly f…ed.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Here in the south of France , an hour from Spain we have our heating on. We (2 humans and 2 cats) spend our summer near the Med but our winter here near the border. All four of us are hot house flowers and are glad we have our stock of wood in for winter, not convinced on this global warming and also have hot water bottles to go.

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  23. G.W.F. says:

    Odd that the BBC gave little coverage to the 80th anniversary of the great battle of Cable Street which was remembered by most of the media, giving prominence to the Corbynistas,Trots, Lefties and Moslems. A good friend of mine, now dead, organized the Jewish residents to resist Moseley and for his pains was booted out of the Communist Party.
    Meanwhile, the left celebrate the battle outside the Cable Street mural in a typical dignified manner.

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  24. BRISSLES says:

    Funny how the tape/video of Trump has not been made public before in the past 11 years ! I’m certainly not going to have an attack of the vapours (and I’m a woman) on hearing what was said; tis the way of the world and it was ever thus. All that’s changed is the public’s non-acceptance of phraseology that would have been accepted in another age. Broad, Chick, Dame are all used in the States when referring to a woman, and blacks use Bitch (far worse in my opinion), so P…..y is no different. Mrs Slocombe often referred to her pussy, and got laughs, and the difference is ???? Guy Gibson in the Battle of Britain film called his dog N…..r, and my Mum always referred to the colour of her ‘costume’ as n…..er brown without any thought to it being an unacceptable thing to say. At the end of the day, no-one died, yet the media clearly have no other news as its still the big news of the day. Boring !

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Exactly, unlike anything Hillary Clinton gets involved with, when lots of people die.

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    • gaxvil says:

      Clearly they’re just using it as a stick to beat Trump.
      Thank goodness boozy, boasting conversations aren’t generally recorded and published or an awful lot of folks would be in the brown stuff.

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  25. G.W.F. says:

    We bought paint according to the label on the tin and despite the name this pudding was fed to the family.

    Z

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  26. Englands Dreaming says:

    Just had a listened to PM on R4. Norman Smith tells us there is a “formidable” body demanding that parliament votes on the terms of the Brexit negotiation. He then lists these formidable people: Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg, Anna Soubry and Nicky Morgan!!!! I assume this is Norman’s idea of a joke.

       55 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      They could be ‘formidable’, if stuffed in a cannon and fired at a soft target.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I suspect Norm is deadly serious.

      If deranged.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Norman also informed us on the lunchtime news that no political party had a manifesto for Brexit.

      Norm, luv – it was a referendum not an election.

      And, sorry – what’s your job title again?

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      • Invicta says:

        Sultan’s of Spin at it again. He is correct, nobody did list what Brexit would entail as none of the parties thought for one moment that Brexit would happen. Except one of course, which he conveniently ignored despite its huge vote

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      • embolden says:

        Norm, remind us which political party had “gay marriage” in its manifesto before it was imposed?

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    • Stella2 says:

      That was their “pressure groups” line on the BBC1 News at lunchtime. Shame Norman doesn’t think to speak to anyone who might contradict his BBC anti-Brexit mindset. I used to think that the BBC were trying to brainwash the public. Now I wonder whether the only people they’ve succeeded in brainwashing are themselves!

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    • Flexdream says:

      Ex party leader. Ex party leader. Ex Minister. Ex Minister.
      I wouldn’t give a XXXX for their views.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      ED: LOL x2. Er no, make that x4! x5 if you include Norman.

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  27. quisquose says:

    The BBC is currently plugging a special version of The Listening Project next week on Radio 4 called Referendum Stories where we can listen to family members discussing the referendum and their different views.

    I think we all know where this will go.

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  28. Sluff says:

    bBBC 1pm news.
    20 mins on Clinton/Trump.
    Vox pop features a Hijab wearing Moslem woman. YCMIU.
    And then at the end, two anti Trump twitter/youtube segments.
    The latter, a vicious attack by Robert de Niro on Trump.
    De Niro is fully entitled to his views, of course.
    The key thing of course is that the disgusting biased BBC news editorial team decided to use the video.
    No pretence at impartiality whatever. They think they are untouchable.

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    • Umbongo says:

      “They think they are untouchable”

      They are – for now.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Would de Niro threaten to punch a muslim politician on the nose? I don’t think so.

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    • gaxvil says:

      Stuff I-Player.

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    • Stella2 says:

      I posted about this “news” bulletin further up. I ran away screaming before the Robert de Niro/youtube bit. And that is news, that they need highly paid professionals to bring us? Beyond parody.

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  29. JimS says:

    Any thoughts about this from Feedback?

    From next year, users will need to login and give their postcode to access BBC iPlayer, iPlayer Radio and some mobile apps. The BBC says the move will enable it to offer a more personalised service – tailoring content to individual preferences. Some Feedback listeners and concerned the information gleaned will be used to crack down on the non-payment of the licence fee. The BBC’s Director of Homepage and myBBC, Phil Fearnley, explains the Corporation’s thinking.

    So the BBC moves from being a broadcaster to being a narrowcaster, along with being able to compile a handy list of where ‘the people like us’ live. Shades of Pastor. Niemöller

    As ‘many’ have said, 1984 was intended as a warning, not a manual.

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  30. Razza94 says:

    After Trump clearly spent the evening tearing Hillary to pieces. The BBC are still trying to put him under pressure, using a really inane comment by Hillary as their lead headline, in order to ignore Hillary’s disaster last night, and instead keep the focus on comments that Trump made in a private conversation 11 years ago.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37610348

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    • Guest Who says:

      When the BBC flail around using ‘quotes’, you know they are at the desperate stage

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    • johnnythefish says:

      The BBC lunchtime news coverage was so biased towards Clinton it was belligerent.

      Two videos trashing Trump – one a speech from that greatest ever world leader (cos he’s black – or says he is, even though he’s half-white) and the other from that unending source of wisdom and enlightenment – Hollywood – this time it was De Niro’s turn to come on with the half-baked virtue signalling.

      Still, what a fitting follow-up act he was to this half-witted headliner:

      Speaking at the White House ahead of a screening of his new documentary, Before the Flood, DiCaprio said such rejection indicated an inability to engage with the rational world.

      “If you don’t believe in climate change, you don’t believe in facts, and science, and empirical truths,” he said.

      “And, in my humble opinion, [you] should not be allowed to hold public office.”

      Obama yet to express his disapproval of these anti-democratic, Stalinist sentiments by the way.

      And doncha just love the ‘humble opinion’ bit from Di Caprio, especially as his ‘opinion’ about ‘facts, science and empirical truths’ could not be more detached from ‘facts, science and empirical truths’ if he tried. Maybe he needs to escape from The Bubble every now and again.

      https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/04/leonardo-dicaprio-climate-change-donald-trump-before-the-flood-documentary

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  31. EnglandExpects says:

    The BBC 6 pm TV news is the usual confection of bias. The opposition of the BBC to Brexit is relentless. The Retail Consortium warn us that prices will go up in the shops due to Brexit, the price of petrol is going up because of Brexit . We are told that imported meat products could face a 27 per cent tariff by WTO rules. The BBC is desperate for us to stay in the Single Market. The centre for cross border studies warns that development in Irish border areas will be damaged by Brexit . So it goes on….
    The BBC also wants to re- fight the Battle of Orgreave. It clearly doesn’t accept the result of the 1984 Miners Strike never mind the EU referendum. A long piece on the News criticises the Police. Miners’ violence is played down.
    We need far more competition in news coverage.

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    • gaxvil says:

      Wonder how they feel about the Norman invasion and whether a ‘formidable ‘ group of MPs could force a commons vote on the outcome ?

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    • johnnythefish says:

      To comply with the rules of the single market we would have to accept freedom of movement, still pay our ‘subscription’ to the EU, still accept the primacy of EU law over our own and still be subject to EU trade regulation.

      In other words, retain all the things the British people voted against.

      Personally I am resigned to the fact the politicians will have their way and get a vote on, then overturn, the final Brexit ‘deal’. The only grim pleasure left for us Brexiteers will be to say ‘I effing well told you so’ when

      – We end up in the Euro

      – We get sucked into political union

      – The Euro collapses

      – The EU collapses

      And all we’re left with is hundreds of billions of UK money down the drain.

      At which point we start the long haul of reclaiming our democracy, assuming we have a country left to save after the devastating effects of mass immigration and our EU-enforced ‘carbon-free energy policy’ have reduced the country to a poverty-stricken, disease-ridden, lawless Islamic wasteland.

         36 likes

      • RJ says:

        JTF, you missed out the bit where 17 1/2 million people vote UKIP in the 2020 General Election. Either the Conservatives deliver Brexit in 2019 or they’re toast.

           14 likes

    • NISA says:

      Yes, the threat of rising petrol prices is our own fault for opting for Brexit & nothing to do with the 10% rise in the price of crude in the past month.

         22 likes

    • Flexdream says:

      Let’s see how the price of meat goes when Australia and NZ get the free trade deal they and we want.

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  32. johnnythefish says:

    Next time the BBC trots out the line that immigrants are net contributors to the UK economy (on the strength of one dodgy dossier compiled by a load of lefties), remember these:

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stretford-taxi-driver-two-million-12003434

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/money-launderers-moved-10m-shore-11265352

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/money-launderers-hid-cash-children-11999732

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/six-charged-money-laundering-after-8903390

    That’s just the result of a quick sampling from one Google search, so tip of the iceberg I reckon.

    Enough for a whole series of Panoramas, I would have thought.

       28 likes

    • Framer says:

      And the police say they don’t know the source of the money (or presumably how the laundering was happening).
      Amazing ignorance shown by investigators unless they are frightened of saying where the money came from and from whom.
      Anyway the Beeb won’t be investigating for sure.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        The most likely source of the money is the heroin trade, which is largely controlled by Pakistani and Turkish gangs, doing their bit to destroy the kaffir.

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  33. gaxvil says:

    ………. And while they warn of the impending doom of Trump and Brexit – Russia is carting nukes all around the Med.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    The BBC goes on a hunt for one degree of operation quotes. Again.

    BBC News

    “I’m offended as an athlete that Donald J. Trump keeps using this ‘locker room talk’ as an excuse.”

    Sports stars don’t like Trump’s ‘locker room’ comments
    BBC.CO.UK

    ‘I’m offended as an athlete’ is really quite special.

    Next up, undertakers or ‘sex workers’? Or, maybe… Wayne Rooney? He needs coverage.

       22 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Sports stars don’t like Trump’s ‘locker room’ comments.

      They’ve obviously never played Sunday League football.

         32 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        Like they would admit it – gimmie a break.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          …….. strange how the lyrics of rap music have never been mentioned either !!!….. Anyone would think, listening to the BBC and other media channels, that all their staff are regular church going bible thumpers ! Most of them have been caught with their pants down at one time or another whilst married, haven’t you Andrew Marr, Dermot M, Tim Wilcox ? to name but 3. If they were running for President how many ‘bodies’ would the press find on them eh ???

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I know this is biased BBC but I thought itv’s peston on Sunday deserves a mention.
    What a load of Shyte.
    The two studio guests for the whole hour, alistair Campbell and Craig Oliver both remainers and anti Trump.
    First guest, Justine Greening. Remainer and anti Trump.
    Second guest, shami chackrabarti. Remainer and anti Trump.
    Last guest, bill bailey. Comedian, so naturally a lefty. Remainer. Wasn’t asked about Trump.
    All saying they respect the vote to leave and then saying what they want which is identical to remain.

    It’s like the sky, BBC reporting of the Trump Clinton debate.
    They get two people to discuss it. One pro Clinton democrat and one neutral republican agreeing that Trump done wrong, was disgusting and was guilty of some kind of sexual assault.

    I wish we had a neutral tv channel to watch.

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  36. Thoughtful says:

    Won’t be seeing this on the BBC :

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stretford-taxi-driver-two-million-12003434

    Taxi driver who was found with £250k in his car laundered £2 MILLION in ONE month

    Or £24 Million a year, and that’s just in one small satellite town, imagine the scale of this in the UK ?

    Which begs the questions why isn’t the BBC reporting on the issue ?

       29 likes

    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb as a news imparter, its a joke – you will get more unbiased and up-to-date news on the internet . This site is a good source .

         20 likes

  37. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Vile anti-trump piece on C4 Kylie Morris @ 7pm.

       8 likes

  38. SpinningReith says:

    JimS October 10, 2016 at 6:12 pm
    Any thoughts about this from Feedback?

    “From next year, users will need to login and give their postcode to access BBC iPlayer, iPlayer Radio and some mobile apps. The BBC says the move will enable it to offer a more personalised service – tailoring content to individual preferences. Some Feedback listeners and concerned the information gleaned will be used to crack down on the non-payment of the licence fee. The BBC’s Director of Homepage and myBBC, Phil Fearnley, explains the Corporation’s thinking.”

    I can’t claim credit for this (I think I saw it here or on Breitbart) or its success, but for any similar request use EH99 1SP.
    However, it is the postcode for the Scottish parliament, and could result in a bit of anti-English left-wing bias in the iPlayer content – oh wait a minute….

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  39. Razza94 says:

    The BBC are now leading with another anti-Trump headline, to add to the long unbroken chain. Paul Ryan, a long time opponent of Trump, refuses to endorse him. This is news?

    There’s so much material that could equally be used against Hillary, I notice that there has been very little mainstream media coverage of these interviews carried out with Bill’s victims, women who Hillary intimidated and humiliated as she stood by her adulterer of a husband. Along with them was the woman who was raped as a 12 year old, Hillary got her attacker a massively reduced sentence (the child rapist was walking the streets again in a year), and then laughed about the case in a recording. How on Earth has the media put her on a pedestal as a feminist icon?




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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I think it was wonderful that those four ladies had the courage to come out publically and stand by Trump, and show up the Clintons for the family of criminals they truly are.

      Only a truly debased MSM could find the testimony of four women raped or abused by the Clintons to be less interesting than a secretly taped bawdy private conversation.

      I would also point out that Trump seems to have a real sense of humour. If you actually listen to his “sex tape”, he is telling a joke against himself, as to how he failed to seduce a woman. And in the debate, his “you’d be in jail” line to Hillary was delivered with perfect comic timing, and left her floored.

      A Trump Presidency would be entertaining. All Hillary Clinton has to offer is grinding PC and leftism: it’s a grim prospect.

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  40. gb123 says:

    I’d rather believe this guy than the BBC. At least he has a Monty Python like script writer. The Beeb use the same techniques as he did when they report.

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  41. taffman says:

    Financial Passporting? Compare and contrast.
    “Banks ‘would lose passporting rights with hard Brexit”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37405430
    And this ….
    “Brexit minister says UK has negotiating leverage on financial passporting”……..
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3831150/Brexit-minister-says-UK-negotiating-leverage-financial-passporting.html#ixzz4MiQPZ32E

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  42. Up2snuff says:

    What has happened to BBC Radio Four’s Book of the Week?

    This week, Angela Carter, another writer has her biography read by Emma Fielding. Can’t count how many BotW books have been about writers this year. It seems to be one or two every month.

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  43. Mackers says:

    Whatever did the western working class male ever do to be treated by the establishment with such utter contemt, they’ve done all the hard labour jobs, the dangerous unforgiving work. In return they simply ask for fairness, honesty and respect.

       21 likes

    • RJ says:

      “Whatever did the western working class male ever do to be treated by the establishment with such utter contempt?”

      They voted for Margaret Thatcher. From that point they were beyond redemption and had to be supressed and replaced by immigrants.

         25 likes

      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        I believe that the day the London dockers marched in support of Enoch Powell in 1968, the Labour Leftist establishment came to the conclusion that the white working class were the enemy, and needed to be replaced.

        They certainly succeeded with the dockers and their communities. They have been ethnically cleansed with a ruthless efficiency that Radovan Karadzic would envy. The white working class boroughs of East London now resemble Dacca, Karachi or Lagos. All within 50 years. This has never happened in history to any country which has not been defeated in war, yet we are meant to believe that in Britain it just…happened, as if by chance? A fit of absence of mind by our ruling establishment? I don’t think so.

        When Gordon Brown described a polite, white working class Northern lady as a “bigoted woman” for expressing doubts about unrestricted mass immigration, he betrayed the true beliefs of the left wing establishment. I think that is the most devastating leaked conversation there has ever been, because it revealed the true mindset of the establishment towards the white working class people of Britain.

        Never forget: to the left wing establishment, we are the enemy, and they are replacing us at the rate of 300,000 a year.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      In Animal farm, Boxer is us. And look what happened to him.

         9 likes

  44. BRISSLES says:

    I often wonder if the newsreaders at the Beeb are all anti-Brexit. They read the lines their paymaster dictates, but to keep their jobs – like most who have opposing views to their bosses – keep their heads down and the salary coming in. Now that its pretty much nationwide knowledge that the BBC is biased everything, its not a company that you’d shout from the rooftops at working for – more like whisper it behind your hand.

       19 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Don’t underestimate the Brussels non-democrats.
      I’m pretty sure that most individual European countries and their governments would behave rationally and be prepared to cut a deal with the Uk. ( NL, Scandi, Italy, several in the East, even maybe Germany).
      But…..no such confidence with Tusk, Juncker and cronies in the Brussels ivory tower. When did they ever give a s*** about people and economic growth? The ‘project’ is the only thing that matters. A high tariff, even lower growth trade deal is a small price to pay to retain the purity of the EU ‘project’, however irrational, however stupid.
      To them, a blank cheque for some egg-on-face prevention is a good deal.

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  45. Spider says:

    Latest from All beeb. Bomb suspect in Germany caught by Syrian refugees. Hooray. We must have more rapeugees, only they can defeat the nasty teworwists.

       21 likes

  46. Number 6 says:

    Anyone hear that drunken asshat John Sopol on 10 o’clock news?

    What a cretin

       12 likes

    • Loobyloo says:

      The bbc propaganda bulletins, what an unfunny joke. Sat through ten o’clock news and newsshite – it’s like self flagellation. Anyone see pj orourke? Well I won’t be reading any of his work! Evan obviously likes him. What a condescending twat, and Evan had the brassneck to refer to impartial broadcasters covering the election!! Notably, he didn’t include the bbc in that category.

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  47. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Battle of Orgreave’: Police ‘had been relishing’ clashes””

    “”He (a police officer) was among about 6,000 officers called in to bolster police ranks protecting the Orgreave coke works”” (What about the the other 5,099 officers who don’t have this view?).

    “”The Orgreave Truth and Justice Campaign has been pushing for a new inquiry into the policing at Orgreave”” (Nobody was killed and it happened over 30 years ago. The ego of the Left/BBC was damaged and hurt. Get over it. And of course Corbyn supports the Truth and Justice Campaign).

    “”Norman Tebbit – now Lord Tebbit – who was in former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s cabinet during the strike, said: “They [the miners] think it was their right to use violence to stop people from going to work. It wasn’t””

    “It’s clear. What’s the problem? The problem for them is they lost their battle – a violent battle – to overthrow the rule of law.”

    “”Lord Tebbit said the so-called Battle of Orgreave should be left to history and a new inquiry would be “a waste of time and money”.

    “The facts are absolutely clear; they are well-known.””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37609965

    The BBC hate Tebbit. It must have pained them to include his sensible quote.

       36 likes

    • Loobyloo says:

      Agree completely. The bbc need to be reminded that this is not news. It’s another project that they have got their teeth into, along with the us election, remoaning, Syria, migrants, Yemen….

         18 likes

  48. Sluff says:

    Latest uk opinion poll
    Tory 43%, Labour/Corbyn/biased BBC coalition 26%

    Big irony. This ICM poll was produced for…….the Grauniad
    The bBBC. In total denial. The bias now rumbled and ignored by millions. Only one last issue. Why do we have to pay £4bn per year for their total wall to wall crap?

       33 likes

  49. Mice Height says:

    Great video here. This guy gets a lot of views and does videos most days.

       11 likes

  50. Dover Sentry says:

    As an aside.

    I stayed up late to enjoy the General Election results last year.
    I stayed up late this year to enjoy the Full English Brexit result.
    I will stay up late on a certain night in November this year to enjoy the USA election results.

    Trump will win. There’s no doubt.

    And for the third time as above, the BBC’s chosen one will lose.

    Deep joy on an unprecedented scale…

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