372 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD…

  1. Tothepoint says:

    Al Beebs propaganda channel this morning…

    3 car bombs and 2 suicide attacks carried out this morning by the relentless so-called BBC in honour of Britain’s greatest ever athlete, Usain Bolt! The entire Al Beeb production team have dedicated every second of their time in ensuring Britains greatest achievement, ever, is honour the right way…..

    ……Oh and I think some White British men may have won some gold medals, but was hard to tell….

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    • Foscari says:

      I am afraid too many indigenous Brits are winning golds for the BBC’S liking. Almost as Andy Murray was about to
      win his gold medal we were told by Jason Mohammed that we could change channels if we wanted to see the
      preparation for the athletics to see the greatest athlete at the games Usain Bolt. And by the way the BBC commentators may be trying their best to hear Murray or anybody else say the F word and apologize. But honestly do
      the ” Mary Whitehouses” at the BBC really think at 1.04 AM anybody gives an F. I am not sure if I am allowed to use the word f… on this site?

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        The site won’t stop you but it may be indicative of a limited vocabulary.

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      • Deborah says:

        I must admit, I prefer there to be no swearing in posts, and I never give a post which contains such words a ‘like’. I have one exception, and that is Pounce when he sounds very stressed.

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    • The Highland Rebel says:

      It could have been worse.
      If he had lost it would have meant a tirade against Trump, Farage, UKIP, Breivik, Brexit, Israel and anyone else they could blame.

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    • embolden says:

      I heard the BBCs Bolt mania in the car on the way to work this morning.

      Why should I care about a foreign born runner representing a foreign country?

      Of course we all know its a form of racial virtue signalling….like the BBCs swoon over the best gymnast in the whole history of the world….ever….Simone Biles…..it`s like Nadia Comaneci never existed. Incidentally the US press (Boston Globe) had a story on their website making the point that Nadia Comaneci`s excellence should not be forgotten in all the hype around Simone Biles.

      Does the BBC know how desperate all this re witing of history and the racial preferment of black Olympians sounds?

      Memo to BBC…. the treatment of Jesse Owens at Berlin in `36 was a German issue…..we aren`t responsible for it, stop overcompensating.

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      • Deborah says:

        I find it exceedingly irritating that the Beeb is highlighting every hijab wearing woman and little black gymnasts that fit their criteria but have nothing to do with the UK. A gold medal is as valid for a white cyclist as a black 10,000 metre runner. As for Mo, he is Somali born and a UK tax exile. The publicity that the Beeb has given him has allowed him to earn a lot of money. He makes guest appearances at races for which he is paid. I suspect that his training is paid for out of UK lottery money. If he is doing work for free to put something back into this country I am not hearing it, and I am sure the BBC would want to give that publicity.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          D ………………put something back into this country ………

          Well, he is trying to get us to eat Quorn ! (ugh)

          I also wonder why, that the Beeb have sent out over 400 + reporters, we have a Yank, Michael Johnson doing a pundit job on athletics ??? how much are we paying him for God’s sake ?

          There are so many ‘anchors’ , another lot for each sport, then 2 pundits for each discipline – none of ’em doing more than a couple of hours paid work. How on earth David Coleman managed in earlier years with just half a dozen sidekicks, Lord only knows.

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        • Grant says:

          The BBC is an institutionally racist organisation. And, surely , there should be an independent enquiry into anti-semitism at the BBC ?

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          • vesnadog says:

            It stands to reason that the BBC is ANTI-Jewish Religion.

            The powers that be within Auntie (I hate that word) hate the very sight/sound/thought of any Judeo-Christian Faith using up air-time. – unless, its too put the Judeo-Christian faiths to ridicule, scoffing, shaking their fists towards heaven while spitting their nasty bile! But! asked if they would do a piece about Islam, the balloons are out and everyone is seen wearing (females) Islamic gear while welcoming any women in black within any/every green room at the BBC.

            In fact I call the BBC: The ABC: The Attenborough Broadcasting Co-….!

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          • Benjy in England says:

            Well, they are certainly anti-Israel.

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      • vesnadog says:

        All this BBC worship of someone who runs 10 seconds is simply mindboggling?! Boy, don’t those 10 second runners look so darn worn out after their run!? 10 seconds? Now if it was Badminton or tennis I would reckon that those guys do indeed deserve some kind of admiration!. After all, they do go on for 3-4 hours! Now that’s what I call working a sweat up for your Lottery funding.

        But 10 seconds then back to your own personal massager, manicurist, hair stylist, dietician, doctor, accountant, publicitiSt, chauffer, chef, I could go on…

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        • Grant says:

          vesnadog,,
          To me , they all look as if they are on drugs. I assume that the positive dope tests are just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe that is why Beeboids are so obsessed with the Olympics. And I guess drugs are cheaper in Rio than London !

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          • vesnadog says:

            Grant, Hi.

            My brother says that the BBC Olympic Lounge are just TV monitors behind the presenters! I disagreed! A couple of days ago I saw a TV Broadcast from the other end of that long beach in the background of the lounge and in the distance you can clearly see a huge flying saucer shaped building (picture 2 huge flying saucers, one on top of the other), with huge windows, resting on top of a huge rocky cliff!

            Surely, the licence fee payer isn’t into off-shore property development?

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            • Grant says:

              vesnadog,

              Now , I have to wonder what you are on !

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              • vesnadog says:

                I’m sorry! Its called: Old Age!

                When one gets old the mind tends to play tricks on you! Here’s a perfect example: I’m convinced that when every lotto draw comes around I will be heading to that BBC Beach in Rio!

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    • tarien says:

      Indeed you would think from all the Hooha from the BBC that this Jamaican athlete was British. God they make me sick and add insult to injury they keep platering this Muslim woman Nadiya something all over the place-she may have won a particular programme of the Bake Off, but what about all the other winners of that prog-pretty sure they were better, but the BBC had to ensure it was a Muslim that won, and now if we didn’t know better one would suppose she was nearing a Gold medal! or perhaps a place in the House of Lords-Oh perhaps shouldn’t have said that, in case the BBC make a play for her to be invited into that funny house in Wsetminster. Deport them all including that alsoran Inverdale.

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      • Pat..original says:

        Bake Off Nadiya has recently featured on Desert Island Discs. She apparently still has to put up with racism! Radio Devon on Sunday morning made this revelation one of their main news headlines. Westminster could be on the cards.

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        • Grant says:

          Pat,

          I was about to say that she should be the first female muslim PM ! But , I guess she has made about £1-2 million from this farce. I want to know, how much has her agent taken, how much has her husband taken, how much has gone in professional fees and how much has this poor little muslim prostitute ( through no fault of her own ) been left with. The BBC should ask her if she has her own Bank Account in her own name . LOL !!

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          • Cranmer says:

            A friend of mine in telly (and this is borne out by my own limited experience of the medium) says that it’s quite difficult to get ‘media friendly’ people on the box, ie, people who are knowledgeable about a particular subject area, who are erudite and who are professional (will turn up on time, won’t get drunk etc).* So the available pool of people is quite small. Then, add to that the media’s desire to push certain political agendas and the field is narrowed even further. That’s why we see the same old faces turning up on the telly all the time.

            *I’ve heard it said that the reason Sir Michael Caine did well was not so much because of acting, but because he always behaves politely and professionally on set.

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      • vesnadog says:

        What’s so shocking about this Nadiya woman is that she mustn’t be telling her BBC boss that she has gone against her own conscience to be a BBC Celeb, because the little I know about the Islamic faith is that her religion actually demands that practicing gays, gay-marriage, in fact everything else concerning the dark world of western/strange flesh i.e. “Fleshings” should be flogged, gutted by a rusty knife, their feet branded with steel spikes, put to death, then their bones burned to dust then that dust must either be thrown into the River Ganges (Oops! I mean Salford Keys)

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  2. Oldspeaker says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37079901
    One line in particular caught my attention from the above piece,
    “Police violence against the black community”
    What? the whole community? Primarily was it not those engaged in or suspected of engaging in criminal activity, at what point did the police attack the ‘black community’?
    Stirring the pot a little with a huge sweeping generalisation, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to accuse the BBC of stoking the fire a little with that kind of rhetoric.

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  3. Pat..original says:

    BBC Home Page – ‘Bolt wins as GB claims historic five golds’……priorities? Some golds are apparently worth more than others.

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  4. MartinW says:

    The worst news of the morning, announced on sport, Today programme: “We’re only half way through the Olympics”. (I’m only joking – I think!)

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    • GCooper says:

      Looking on the bright side, the BBC’s obsession with the Olympics means I am consuming even less of their preachy, right-on, biased rubbish.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Also via Today:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37058019/easy-access-to-online-porn-is-damaging-mens-health-says-nhs-doctor

      Be interesting if it turns out there are preventative drugs around to assuage these lusty lads’ urges, and how the BBC’s medical and ethical expertise gets juggled in the editorial meeting if this dilemma raises its ugly head (see what I did there?) again.

      Maybe Mrs. Coren Mitchell could be wheeled on to the breakfast sofa to agitate?

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      • Cranmer says:

        What absolute twaddle. Feminists can’t attack pornography or prostitution easily, because to do so would be to attack the free choice of women involved in it. So they have to invent other reasons to oppose it, such as ‘damaging mens’ health’ or in the case of prostitution, play up the ‘trafficking’ angle.

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        • Grant says:

          Cranmer,

          Since when did femmies care about mens’ health ? Or muslim womens’ health either. BBC Headline ” Why do feminists not care about the abuse of muslim women by muslim men ? ” Let’s have a heated debate .

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  5. Roland Deschain says:

    An axe attack in Cologne was mentioned on LBC this morning. No-one seems to have noticed the ethnicity of anyone involved. I can’t see anything on the BBC.

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    • Andrew Caplan says:

      Obvious isn’t it?

      Vikings carry axes. Here’s incontrovertible proof:

      MI+Viking+getty.jpg

      In fact, he probably did it, just after breaking into this garden shed.

      Stealing strimmers and hanging baskets is a well known Viking tactic.

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      • peterthegreat says:

        Andrew – That’s him officer! Still nothing on beeb about axe attack in Cologne. Another day another axe attack, I guess.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I checked the BBC web site a few minutes ago and couldn’t find any reports of this attack although it is well reported elsewhere. Of course most normal people expect that Islam will one way or another be the root cause of this attack, it is possible that there is another explanation but unlikely. However, I imagine that the corporation is playing for time and hoping either that there are grounds for mounting one of its increasingly ludicrous explanations that Islam is not the cause,or that something else happens in the world so that they can bury the story.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “One wounded in Cologne attack; no sign of terrorism: police” Reuters
      “The 34-year-old was taken to hospital with stab wounds and head injuries, police and prosecutors said in a statement. Eyewitnesses said several people were involved in an argument.”

      “They said eyewitnesses reported seeing several cars speeding away and that a number of people were taken in for questioning. Police also secured two vehicles suspected of being linked to the attack”

      Checking German papers shows no info like skin colour, just “the attack occurred in front of a trendy pub”

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        It seems rather improbable that despite a number of witnesses, no-one noticed skin colour, does it not? So the powers-that-be should not be surprised if we start filling in the blanks for ourselves.

        As is increasingly necessary in this age of censorship.

        And no, it still isn’t on the BBC’s news page as far as I can see. Though there is time to tell us that the Harry Potter play has suffered from ticket touts.

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    • Moise Pippic says:

      still waiting for background info on the person who committed the swiss train attack.

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      • Lobster says:

        All we know is that he has a “typical Swiss name” – whatever that means.
        As Mohammed is now apparently the most popular boys name in the UK, I suppose that could be considered a “typical British name”.

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        • Andrew Caplan says:

          “All we know is that he has a “typical Swiss name””

          His name is M N Thal.

          Guess what the “M” stands for.

          Police say his story was full of holes; a bit like him.

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          • Doublethinker says:

            Well judging from the coverage so far I would hazard a guess that M stands for madman and the N for nutter We know that it can’t be Mohamed because none of the MSM have reported that he was a Muslim, but they have told us that he was mentally disturbed, or at least I think they meant him but they have reported so many mad axe and knife men recently that I may have mixed him up with one of the other attackers. Or was he the crime of passion man ,or the extreme rightist ,or perhaps the work place violence man, or the chap upset because he didn’t like the newspaper cartoon,or the chap who lost control of his lorry , or the chap who was in some other way upset. Anyway we can be sure that it is nothing to do with Islam because the BBC tells us so.

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          • taffman says:

            The Swiss are getting the benefits of multiculturalism? Has Al Beeb covered this one ?
            “Forced under age marriages spike in Switzerland”
            http://lenews.ch/2016/08/11/forced-under-age-marriages-spike-in-switzerland/

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    • Essexman says:

      I , think , this is the last time on the Olympics, the BBC will be able to throw the Kitchen sink at it .I counted 7 streams of it with 2 or 3, HD duplicates on Freeview. The new rights holder , which flogs off the TV coverage ,on behalf of the Olympics,will limit the streams to 2 or 3 in the future .If you want more it will be , on pay tv , as far as I understand.

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      • Grant says:

        Essexman,

        I hope this is the last time these venal Beeboids are drinking at our trough !

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  6. Beltane says:

    It’s a shame the BBC don’t do irony but, Bolt aside, the outpouring of reflected national pride from the commentating team at Rio, for this tiny island which currently lies second in the world medal rankings, is surreal. To recognize the level of achievement, most especially when contrasted with our performance in Atlanta – one gold, only 20 years ago – and yet fail so comprehensively to recognize and promote the fact that this same national level of focus and dedication is just as applicable to Brexit, is a unique, historically unprecedented and shameful facility.
    Perhaps if Claire Balding replaced the aging Kirsty Wark, and Evan Davis stood down for Gabby Logan, a whole new era of enthusiasm and balance might transform attitudes and make this site redundant. Well, with second thoughts maybe not, but some transfer of backroom staff might be a positive move.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Actually its better than you think: The Queen tops the medal table with 27 Gold medals. Although a Puerto Rico Gold also gives Obama 27 Gold Medals, the Queen has 32 Silver to Obamas 21 Silver Medals.
      The Royal Commonwealth Gold Medals come from Great Britain (15), Australia (6), New Zealand (2), Canada (2) and Jamaica (2) with one from Usain Bolt putting the Queen on top of the list, which must be the reason for all that patriotism at the BBC, over the Usain Bolt victory.

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      • gb123 says:

        We also have Fiji (re-instated to the Commonwealth c 2 years ago.) So we are one ahead again. + Singapore 1 Gold as well!

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          Although Fiji is considering holding a referendum on restoring the Queen as head of state, at the moment, both Fiji and Singapore are republics, so their medals do not count.

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  7. taffman says:

    Al Beeb ‘bint’ on the news this morning discussing the effect of Brexit with the head of the National Farmer’s Union “…… the money we get from the EU”.
    Message to Al Beeb, its not EU money, its our money!
    It works like this Al Beeb –
    We give the EU ‘loads of money’ they then run it through a gigantic bureaucracy after siphoning a substantial amount out.
    They stick a ‘spangled’ blue flag on it , give the remains back to us and call it European Funding .
    The late Paul Daniels could not have performed a better magic trick.

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  8. magicoat says:

    At the Rio Olympics, all athletes, coaches and officials took the Olympic oath to uphold the values of sportsmanship and not allow personal and national issues to interfere in their performance or judgements.

    Soon after that as the Israeli team were about to board a bus at the stadium, a group of Lebanese athletes already aboard protested and their coach barred the way and would not allow the Israelis to board. To overcome the situation the Brazilian officials tried to break up the Israeli team onto other buses, BUT THE ISRAELI SECURITY PREVENTED THAT, because they could not protect the team on many buses. So an extra bus was called in to take the Israelis. Talk about segregation. Imagine if that had happened with a Black team.

    After a very brief investigation the Olympic officials decided that nothing untoward had happened and dismissed the affair. But, what about their oath, doesn’t it mean anything? Can they in fact then cheat in their performances and be prejudiced in their judgements and get away with it? In another example, a Saudi judoka refused to participate in a match that might have resulted in her competing with an Israeli in the next round. And in another case a Lebanese judge gave an Israeli a fault when there was no evident reason for it. Lastly an Egyptian judoka El Shahaby was booed and warned by the judge when he refused to shake the hand of the Israeli Or Sasson who had just beaten him in a match.

    How can you run an Olympic Games under these conditions. All Arab/Muslim teams should be put on notice that they will be dismissed from the games if they show such racist bias against Israelis. How different is that from the Russian athletic team not being allowed to participate for drug test cheating? If they are not warned then we can conclude that the oath in fact means nothing, as we suspected.

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    • Demon says:

      Excellent post magicoat. Clearly rules were only written for some of us and intended to be ignored, if so required, by others.

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    • taffman says:

      magicoat
      Certain ‘medieval elements’ on this planet abuse the democracy, freedom of speech , humanity , restraint and charity of the West and throw it back in our face.
      Its a great pity and shame that our state funded propagandists does not highlight it .

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Here’s hoping the Moslems lose the games.
        There was a time when countries put up teams. Now its Moslems versus the rest

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        • Lobster says:

          I suppose it’s only a matter of time before the shot-put is replaced by the severed head-put.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The Olympic Oath is clearly treated as just another form of taqqiya as far as the muslim states are concerned. Nothing can be allowed to get in the way of their Jew hatred. Nothing.

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    • Jump says:

      ‘All Arab/Muslim teams should be put on notice that they will be dismissed from the games if they show such racist bias against Israelis.’

      Some already have been, kind of, if you allow the difference between teams and individuals. Apologies for a late reposting of a late contribution to a thread on an earlier, general board, but I think it’s worth rehearsing the detail.

      Earlier this evening (Wednesday), Fehaid Al-Deehani won the gold medal for double-trap shooting. Although he’s Kuwaiti (a ‘Kuwaiti national’ in the BBC’s terms, grrr), and had been due to carry his country’s flag in the opening ceremony, he was competing as an ‘Independent Olympic Athlete’.

      This is because Kuwait was suspended from the International Olympic Committee last year, and banned from participating at Rio. The IOC deemed the Kuwaiti government to have indulged in political interference. Yair Davidovich, a technical delegate for the International Sports Shooting Federation, who had been scheduled to supervise the Asian Shooting Championship in Kuwait in November last year, was denied a visa by Kuwait’s immigration department.

      Mr Davidovich’s nationality was the problem, apparently. Have a guess what his nationality is. No googling, now.

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    • DWBuxton says:

      I have long said the the Olympic Committee is a highly corrupt body, just behind the UN, the EU and others like the “green blob”. Brazil is the last Country I would hold anything on the scale of the Olympics.

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  9. seismicboy says:

    It’s not bias, it’s bollox
    Most delayed flights from UK airports revealed
    Really? Is this news? What a waste of TV tax money. They do like to point the finger though, don’t they?
    I travel a lot and if the airline offered me a 15 minute delay I would bite their hand off. With our beloved Euro partners, the French, going on strike every few weeks (sometimes it’s difficult to know when they are on strike and when they are working normally)
    But as usual, the reporter (presumably from the Blue Peter school of statistics) doesn’t actually mention if the delays are in departure times or take into account arrival times. Any frequent traveller will know that there is a lot of slack in arrival times and very often small delays in departures can be easily clawed back.
    It’s a candidate for non-story of the week at best.

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  10. Flexdream says:

    News not news.

    BBC R4 Today, one of the headlines is that Labour leader hopeful Owen Smith will speak later today and say the government has secret plans to privatise the NHS. It’s like the old days of Ed Milliband when any guff his office released was fed to the Today programme to be a headline.

    Smith has not even spoken yet. There’s no bombshell revelation. He will not be the next Labour leader. Labour will not be the next government. There will not even be an election before 2020. This is not news. Although it is way to exaggerate the importance and relevance of Smith.

    Incidentally, when Humphries was talking to Margaret Beckett about the Labour leadership, he missed asking her the obvious question. Does she now regret being one of those who nominated Corbyn to be leader? Funny eh?

    For the benefit of those who don’t know what she now thinks …

    “Margaret Beckett: I was moron to nominate Jeremy Corbyn”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33625612

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Margaret Beckett: “I was always a moron, after all I am a Labour politician.”

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    • Blackcap says:

      Not forgetting that Smith is a former Toady producer? Looking after their mates again.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It’s an example of the madness of the left. They nominated Corbyn, even though they did not agree with him. They wanted to have a tame far left winger on the ballot, just for the sake of appearances, but they never expected he would be elected. They did not know their own party. Frankly, faced with a choice of Angie Eagle, Andy Burnham, and some other no-mark I’ve forgotten, it would have been a shock if Corbyn hadn’t been elected.

      Labour MPs were so stupid and complacent that they have destroyed their own party. It’s poetic justice, since they have spent their entire careers trying to destroy the social and economic fabric of the whole country. The rest of us can only get out the popcorn and watch.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Confirmed time of speech was around 12pm Monday, according to his Twitter feed *
      Yet BBC R4 was trailing last night as the 2nd news headline
      : So yes it does like his PR team placed a News-vert with their mates
      another bbcLabourNews-vert
      * (Why don’t actual news reports tell people the time of the speech ?)

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  11. Flexdream says:

    Is the BBC cancer spreading? Even Share Radio has it’s moments.

    A discussion of internet regulation by the EU gets the presenter to comment that now with Brexit the UK will have less influence, and so even less chance of getting a desirable outcome, the implication being that the UK favours less regulation than the rest of the EU.

    No, with Brexit the UK can make its own regulations, rather than be bound by the majority EU view. This is a demonstration of the benefits of Brexit, not the drawbacks!

    Is the UK broadcast media trained at the same school?

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    • GCooper says:

      Effectively, yes.

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    • StrumPattern says:

      “… now with Brexit the UK will have less influence, and so even less chance of getting a desirable outcome…”

      Britain never had any influence in Europe anyway.

      But I wonder what made/makes the MSM think Britain ever had any influence?

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  12. Peter Grimes says:

    Labour Party and its no-mark candidates in trouble.

    What is the most likely subject to bring them sympathy from the sheeple? What, after Al Beeb, is the nation’s second treasure?

    I know, let’s pretend, again, that we have gained intelligence about a secret wikkid Tory plan to privatise the NHS. That will garner sympathy from the terminally stupid believers in the ever-flourishing, abundant Money Tree!

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Seems the W1A Khans have decided what the nation needs speaking for upon more than anything today…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p044g3cg?

    It is possible that there are certain solutions for which the limitations of BBC editorial integrity may not have time.

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    • Expat John says:

      I’m sorry, but I really thought Kadiza Sultana was a Persian fruit dessert…

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  14. Demon says:

    I recently came back from a week in Vienna, the city where my father was born. I often go back because I had some very happy holidays as a child as my father’s Catholic relations were then large in number and they were more than welcoming. Vienna has changed dramatically, although one must not stand in the way of progress it is not all for the better, in fact quite the contrary. Paradoxically, I still love Vienna despite the changes.

    However, the point of this post is to repeat some things my Jewish American cousin said. We met there as he regularly goes back to see his parents’ friends and relatives and, despite what happened to his family, including my Jewish ones as well, he also loves the city. I hadn’t seen my cousin for 30 years, despite our irregular contacts via email.

    We spoke a lot about politics so I thought it might be interesting to repeat some of his points. Most of which will chime with the majority opinions on here, although some will make more of a hit with our BBC-employed visitors.

    He is that very rare creature, a successful Californian Jew who is a natural Republican. He thinks this is the worst choice he’s ever had for President. He said he cannot vote for Trump but Clinton’s worse so he will leave that part of the ballot paper blank, but there are apparently other questions to vote for on the paper so he will restrict himself to those.

    He said he was disappointed with Brexit as he believes that it will probably break the UK and he doesn’t think that small countries will be as successful. I explained why I fully supported it and voted for it and used the example of the USA being told what to do by the rest if they were in the similar situation with the other countries in the Americas. I criticised the EU for its corruption and anti-democracy stand. He saw the point and said the people he had just visited in the Czech Republic had said similar to me despite them being a beneficiary of EU largesse. (His father was born in the Czech Republic so he has family and friends there to visit too).

    He said he occasionally “dipped in” to the BBC so he knows how left-wing it is. I started to ask if he had heard of Ken Livingstone – and he grinned and said “Of course he knows he’s anti0semitic and what about Corbyn!”. It shows that among intelligent people, even as far away as the USA, the left-wing’s innate anti-Semitism in this country is totally blatant. And that Corbyn’s Jew-hatred is clear to them. He said he couldn’t believe that the Democrat Party (once home for most Jewish votes) has become so anti-Israel and the Republicans have taken over the role as Israel’s allies.

    He is an extremely interesting and likeable chap and we enjoyed meeting his wife and children and this was the first time my wife had met him too. Maybe one day we may take a trip to California to visit.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      From what you have written, I don’t understand why he is so down on Trump. Does he actually want more mulim immigration into the USA? I would swap Donald Trump for Theresa May in a heartbeat.

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      • Moise Pippic says:

        That`s the problem . He considers himself a Republican which for an American Jew is a leap forward from their Democrat fixation but he can`t complete his transformation by voting for Trump who is admittedly a flawed candidate… Rather he is willing to be a party to Hilary`s election by not voting, with the inevitable discomfort that he like other American Jews are going to feel if Muslim immigration continues apace into the States.

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    • Grant says:

      Demon,

      Sounds like a very interesting trip. I don’t quite understand his point about small countries. Norway and Switzerland seem to do ok. How about Singapore ? Big is not necessarily better . Look at Russia or Brasil !

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      • Demon says:

        Grant, I agree. But his thinking is big (like the USA). He also regrets the long-time passing of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I think he would like to see it restored as he admitted he is a great fan of the Habsburgs. He believes that Franz-Joseph was good to the Jewish population of the Empire. I didn’t argue as I’m not sure but I didn’t think the Jews did that well under the Empire. However, I know my own Jewish grandfather (born in Moravia) was a Habsburg fan and fought willingly in WWI.

        I think he would like to see unification between the Czechs and Austrians particularly as that is where his ancestry all comes from.

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  15. Peter Grimes says:

    Wonderfully informative post, but your cousin, perhaps because of his ancestry and fairly recent family history, is a rarity amongst Americans. Most don’t know what is going on in the neighbouring state.

       19 likes

    • Demon says:

      Peter, thank you. You are probably right – I haven’t ever been to the States, myself, but I have heard similar to what you said. Americans do have a history of isolationism.

         13 likes

  16. KatieH says:

    A liitle piece in the beebs employment rag about old friend Moazzam Begg and a new documentary. The comments are interesting

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/aug/11/the-confession-review-profound-guantanamo-bay-documentary-moazzam-begg

       21 likes

  17. G says:

    Eric Pickles full report on Electoral Fraud entitled: ‘Securing the Ballot’, can be viewed here: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/545416/eric_pickles_report_electoral_fraud.pdf

    I won’t cherry pick but Pickles’ states, the main perpetrators of, what is essentially a ‘trust based electoral system’, were primarily Asians.
    “Research undertaken on behalf of the Electoral Commission in January 2015 within Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities in Britain revealed a lack of understanding of the voting process and how electoral fraud could be committed. This was allied in some communities to a concept of kinship which meant that individuals felt obliged to operate as part of a collective community and not have individual choices.” [Paragraph 208]. A summary article can be found here: http://newobserveronline.com/uk-massive-nonwhite-vote-fraud/
    Islam has no regard for those who condemn electoral fraud. Indeed, it has no regard for the UK Government. All that counts is the will of Allah. I guess we will not hear from the BBC on this issue because it involves Islam as the predominant ‘religion’ of the perpetrators of electoral fraud.

       56 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Perhaps I am wrong, but I can’t ever remember a case of electoral fraud concerning Indian Hindus or Sikhs. Can anyone else?

         40 likes

      • peterthegreat says:

        Lobster – No. Generally Hindus and Sikhs are model citizens. It annoys me intensely when the slimy beeb uses the weasel word ‘Asian’ (when we know exactly who they mean), thereby tarring all Asians with the same brush.
        If I were Indian, Seikh or any other Asian I would be outraged. But being civilised they don’t go planting bombs outside the beeb. (PS. I am NOT advocating violence, nice Mr Thought-Policeman spying on Biased bbc.)
        (But one can dream, can’t one?)

           45 likes

        • Grant says:

          peter,

          So far as I can see, the only group that cause any trouble on the basis of their religion are muslims. Non-muslim Asians must get sick of being classed as the same. When was the last terrorist attack in Europe carried out by Chinese ?

             37 likes

          • peterthegreat says:

            or Japanese, Filipinos, Indians, Tibetans (being genocided by the Chinese, don’t hear much about that on the beeb – big market, mustn’t upset) etc etc.

               28 likes

            • Grant says:

              peter,

              Good point about Tibet. I was really thinking of Europe. We also don’t hear much about muslim terrorism against Thais. Imagine if it was the other way round !

                 16 likes

  18. peterthegreat says:

    And still nothing about mysterious Swiss train killer.

       43 likes

  19. BRISSLES says:

    Much has been commented on here about the family Balls housing a few refugees. Oh how I loved reading the following, taken from the Sun Express………..

    “With Ed Balls about to be out of the house for a while as he waltzes his way into the Strictly CD, his wife Yvette will have time to prepare the couple’s home for those Syrian refugees she volunteered to take in. Or not.

    Last year Miss Cooper, along with Sir Bob Geldorf and a handful of other worthies, announced that she would be setting an example to the nation by welcoming a Syrian family into one of her two homes.

    So far no Syrian refugees have crossed the threshold, and she has been evasive when the mater is raised. Indeed when she was question by the SE columnist Nick Ferrari on his LBC show, her reply was a masterclass in evasion, with Ms Cooper coming over all Vicky Pollard, blustering….. “Yeah, but, no, but…..” Last week Yvette branded PM Theresa May, ‘a disgrace’, for not welcoming more Syrian refugees into Britain.

    Yet still her own spare bedrooms remain empty ”

    Oh, that Ms Balls reads the Sunday Express !!!

       64 likes

    • Grant says:

      What a bunch of lying hypocrites, the whole lot of them !

         39 likes

    • thirdoption says:

      “Yet still her own spare bedrooms remain empty ”

      Plenty of room then for that lying, thieving, ugly, fat disgrace of an ex-Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith

         25 likes

  20. Maria Brewin says:

    Uh oh, I can see where this is heading:

    Former Aston Villa striker Dalian Atkinson dies after being tasered by police

       29 likes

    • peterthegreat says:

      Uh Oh, more BLM demos.

         9 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Yes he black, and born in Shrewsbury.

         4 likes

    • All Lives Matter says:

      I was thinking the same thing. This appears to be an avoidable death caused by a policeman panicking and Atkinson bring drunk. It’s a sad incident that shouldn’t have happened. It is not, as I’m sure the BBC will eventually infer, evidence of systemic prejudice in the police force, black marginalisation, or (most hilarious of all in showing how pig-thick the SJW/liberal/PC stance really is and how oblivious to its own bigotry) “white racism.”

         15 likes

  21. peterthegreat says:

    Strange… STILL nothing about Cologne ‘frenzied knife and gun attack’ on beeb, even when you drill down to Europe.
    Mmm, Cologne, rings a bell, let me think now…
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/537869/knife-attack-shooting-Cologne-Germany-terror-fears

       37 likes

    • Grant says:

      peter,

      The problem with the BBC is that you never know whether something is deliberate or just incompetence and, my goodness, they are incompetent !

         39 likes

      • peterthegreat says:

        Grant – But the incompetence always seems to fit their ideological bias, coincidentally.

        If our Cologne friends had been Far Right racists they’d have been on it like a rash (an apt metaphor for the beeb).

        And still at time of writing, nothing on Cologne attacks.

           20 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Something stinks about the whole affair. Less Eau-de-Cologne, more Odour-Cologne.

         27 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      see my earlier comment up the page at 1:32pm
      “One wounded in Cologne attack; no sign of terrorism: police” Reuters

         9 likes

      • peterthegreat says:

        Stew – There doesn’t need to be overt ‘links to terrorism’. The call goes out to ‘Kill the infidel, any time, any place, any how’. It’s heard, and acted upon. Simple.
        Of course that doesn’t need explaining on this blog, but in case anyone’s new here.

           26 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          yeh, but , yeh but
          It has been 24 hours now and no death has been reported , so that is not the same as a real real terrorist attack or even the Swiss train “event” similar to the 2 German “events”. So understandable BBC might not report it.

             7 likes

  22. Geoff says:

    The more I hear and see of this woman (and not week goes by) the more convinced I become that she was a plant and was always going to win. Can anyone name any of the 5 previous winners?

    For once the DM has not completely sterilised the comments…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs

       24 likes

  23. Tabs says:

    Samia Shahid death: Ex-husband admits Pakistan ‘honour killing’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-37082523

    BBC not content with putting the words honour killing in quotes, as if its some made up phrase, they then follow it up with a description of “… a so-called honour killing.”

    Why is it so difficult for the so-called BBC to just call anything that may show Islam in a bad light by the name that everyone recognises? There is nothing “so-called” about honour killings – they are written into laws right across most of the Muslim countries.

    These so-called BBC ‘news’ articles really get on my so-called mammaries.

       46 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Some people have said that you shouldn’t call them honour killings, cos that makes it seem OK AND are not honourable
      eg >>UKIP Calls On BBC to Refer to ‘Honour Killings’ As ‘Murder'<< – Breitbart 3 Aug 2016

         23 likes

    • Kikuchiyo says:

      I think you’ll find it’s more about recognising that there’s nothing ‘honourable’ about it.

      The pedant in me also feels obliged to point out that it is a made up phrase. Like all phrases are.

         2 likes

  24. vesnadog says:

    Anyone noticed the layout of the BBC Olympic lounge in Rio?! All the cushions are laid out Rainbow Style! A clear case of BBC propaganda within the BBC Olympic Editing/Production team in Rio!

       16 likes

    • Kikuchiyo says:

      I haven’t seen it, but from your description, I’m guessing its the colour of the Olympic rings?

         2 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        I suppose it could mean that but auntie being awash with homosexuals I wouldn’t put it past those pesky BBC production staff claiming that Olympic lounge as a “Christian no-go-area”!

           9 likes

  25. Mackers says:

    Their probably making a new white paper mache face for the swiss attacker.

       8 likes

  26. StewGreen says:

    Is Russia using Wikileaks to control the US election ? That ‘s what ibtimes articcle about Democratic party and Soros hacks basically says, by talking about how Democrat officials resigned after hacks.

       4 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      I assume that’s what “Trump team ‘must reveal pro-Russia ties’“, which has been prominently on the news front page, is all about. I really have no intention of clicking on it to find out because I’m confident it will be entirely one-sided. There are, after all, an awful lot of matters that it could be said Hillary must reveal, but the BBC and MSM generally don’t seem quite so keen to push that.

         13 likes

  27. thirdoption says:

    Tuned in to the BBC last night to watch the Olympic sport but didn’t see much due to most of the program being dedicated to a Louis Smith Gangster style rap routine followed by extensive coverage of some Chinese bloke proposing to his tearful girlfriend……which was nice

       18 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      ……Louis Smith Gangster style rap routine …..

      Was that before or after he was weeping like a little girl ?

         7 likes

      • Demon says:

        Despite his understandable disappointment missing out on the gold medal, the only one he’s not managed to win, I thought he was very dignified. The tears were because he was upset – very understandable – but he was very sporting in his comments and actions.

           8 likes

  28. Thoughtful says:

    BBC radio 4 Herland:

    In 1915 women could neither vote, divorce nor work after marriage, yet in that same year the American writer Charlotte Perkins Gilman envisaged a revolutionary world populated entirely by women who were intelligent, resourceful and brave. Her great science fiction novel Herland tells the story of three men who crash land on an island where the men have died out; women reproduce by parthenogenesis. Until Gilman’s book was published most visions of utopia, though turning the world on its head, struggled to envisage a place where gender had changed. Fantastical machines could be imagined alongside marvellous advances in medicine and technology, but the idea of woman functioning fully in the new utopias was too much for many to imagine. In this programme the award winning science fiction writer Geoff Ryman uses Herland as a starting point to ask why it’s been so had to imagine a world where gender dissolves. In the course of the programme he will write his own short story, avoiding the pitfalls that have skewered many before him

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06yfhqr

    Pushing the agenda yet again that gender is a social construct, and that there is no difference between men & women at all !

       22 likes

    • Grant says:

      Thoughtful,

      Funny that the BBC would not apply any of that to Islam !

         22 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      “..the idea of woman functioning fully in the new utopias…”

      What the [expletive deleted] is that supposed to mean? It’s utter gobbledegook.

         8 likes

      • Grant says:

        Roland,

        It is the use of the plural ” utopias” which gets me . Not that I am pretending I understand the rest of it !

           5 likes

    • Cranmer says:

      Also pushing the idea of oppression of women via lack of suffrage. A lot of men – many of whom fought in the Great War – were also denied the vote, because it was based largely on property qualification.

         4 likes

  29. thirdoption says:

    What an absolute disgrace – both the men’s 100m and 400m final were all black runners, not a white face to be seen.

    Clearly this is racism by the IOC and Will Smith and his wife will be boycotting all further Olympics as they did the Oscars.

    #whiterunnersmatter

       56 likes

  30. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3741565/Theresa-hails-end-legal-firm-spent-millions-pounds-taxpayers-cash-hounding-troops.html

    Great news, but I wonder why the BBC hasn’t covered it ?

    After being stripped of public money Public Interest Lawyers will close
    Hundreds of soldiers will now escape a taxpayer-funded witch-hunt

    Two more stories :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3740507/Legal-firm-spent-taxpayer-millions-hounding-troops-closes-down.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3740538/His-firm-s-shut-soldiers-planning-SUE-him.html

    The development will also increase pressure for the Iraq Historical Allegations Team (IHAT) to drop many of the 1,500 cases it is investigating

    Phil Shiner, who ran PIL, may now face charges following an investigation

    Colonel Richard Kemp, who commanded troops in Afghanistan, welcomed the demise of PIL. He said: ‘They have hounded British soldiers for personal gain and political agenda for many years.

       41 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      The BBC did report on it on PM but they sounded rather sad about it.

         24 likes

      • Grant says:

        The BBC would be sad. They have lost an ally in the destruction of the British Armed Services.

           25 likes

      • Flexdream says:

        “In a HARDtalk interview first broadcast on 9 April 2008 Stephen Sackur talks to the human rights lawyer Phil Shiner.”
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/7339005.stm

        _44556006_philshiner.203.jpg

        “Phil Shiner was named Human Rights Lawyer of the Year for personal sacrifice on behalf of the Iraqis. ”
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4078457.stm

        (note also; ” Civil rights lawyer Gareth Peirce is also recognised for her work on behalf of detainees held at Belmarsh Prison under the anti terrorism laws, receiving the same award.
        The Human Rights Award goes to the Gypsy and Traveller Law Reform Coalition, “for exceptional achievement in uniting Gypsies, Irish Travellers and New Travellers” and fighting on their behalf. )

        Shakespeare1.jpg

           14 likes

        • Grant says:

          Flex,

          We do not need to kill all the lawyers, some are good . We do not need to kill all Beeboids, some are ok. But the rest should be put to the sword.

             4 likes

          • Nibor says:

            Kill all the senior civil servants (grade5 or above ) .

               6 likes

          • RJ says:

            For both groups I’m inclined towards the solution suggested by Simon de Montfort (5th Earl of Leicester) during the Albigensian Crusade – “Kill them all, and let God sort them out”.

               14 likes

          • Flexdream says:

            Grant,
            I was only joking. There are good lawyers, doing useful work.

               0 likes

          • TheBrutalTruth says:

            Grant – I would tend to agree with flex – my step dad is a very well known barrister – he reads the guardian and dutifully shouts down any issues that I bring to the dinner table in a very condescending and arrogant way – my brother (in his final year at Manchester University doing law and doing an internship in his chambers this summer says that he’s very popular amongst many of the judges/barristers that adorn our beloved MSM)…. That is enough for me to agree with flex

               9 likes

            • TheBrutalTruth says:

              On a more positive note – my brothers career looks promising and he is one of us!

                 5 likes

        • scribblingscribe says:

          The BBC will miss the despicable sod Phil Shiner.

          When the Crown Prosecution dropped the charges because of the slight inconvenience of the soldiers being the innocent, Shiner was interviewed on PM. The interview was disgraceful. Rather than challenging him with the evidence unearthed, (of how the evidence was based on lies and manipulation), the BBC invited him to say how awful it was that the courts were letting these soldiers go free. He went onto say, wholly unchallenged, how he would take his case to the court of Human Rights in The Hague.
          One was left with the impression the BBC interviewer fulsomely approved of this move.

          Well, at least the producers of the Panorama program, that crucified these brave young soldiers, will now offer a written apology, along with an explanation of why the BBC got it painfully wrong. Wonder if they feel any shame?

             41 likes

          • Grant says:

            scribbling,

            Shiner is the ultimate Leftist scum. I hope that the Police will investigate that dog, but I suspect the British police are already too “house trained ” !

               33 likes

          • chrisH says:

            Oh I don`t know scribbler.
            There`s that liberal Anderson ponce from something like Kings College, Eltham who`ll be on soon to remind us of the need to compensate the Mau Mau and all Kenyans linked after that unpleasantness in the 50s.
            As for our chances of getting something from what Johnny Turk did to US in the Crimea….guess we heed to get over it , draw a line and move along…

               12 likes

            • Cranmer says:

              Cultural Marxism general rules # 2133: ‘All actions by British military personnel are acts of colonialist and capitalist oppression. The only exceptions to this are those carried out during 1941-1945 when British forces united with comrade Stalin to defeat German fascism.’

                 4 likes

        • johnnythefish says:

          The Human Rights Award goes to the Gypsy and Traveller Law Reform Coalition, “for exceptional achievement in uniting Gypsies, Irish Travellers and New Travellers” and fighting on their behalf. )

          You really couldn’t make that one up if you tried.

             4 likes

      • Kikuchiyo says:

        I had a listen – no idea how you detected that

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07nn87c#play

           2 likes

  31. Richard Pinder says:

    I think I have the reason for all that patriotism at the BBC, over the Usain Bolt victory. The Queen tops the medal table with 27 Gold medals. Although a Puerto Rico Gold also gives Obama 27 Gold Medals, the Queen has 32 Silver to Obamas 21 Silver Medals.
    The Royal Commonwealth Gold Medals come from Great Britain (15), Australia (6), New Zealand (2), Canada (2) and Jamaica (2), with the one from Usain Bolt beating Obama, and putting the Queen on top of the list.

       17 likes

    • RJ says:

      Richard,

      If you include the ex-colonies outside the Commonwealth you could cedit HMQ with the American medals as well.

      Given the current state of their Presidential election I wonder if they’d like to come back?

         9 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        I believe that Harold Wilson considered inviting the United States back into the fold in 1976, as part of the US bicentennial celebrations, but the Black African members of the Commonwealth would not have it.

        Also as Australia considered a constitutional change involving only a change of the symbols, such as just calling the Governor General, the President.

        So Trump as President, and son of one of her majesties subjects, could just change the presidential symbols to the “Governor General of the United States of America”, with no fundamental change to the US Constitution, other than a change to the symbols, so as to recognise the restoration of the office of “Queen of America”

           0 likes

  32. TruthSeeker says:

    I was trying to find out the name of the man arrested for the sexual attack of an eight year old Dutch girl in France. I failed.

    But I did find, serendipitously, the story of a convicted child rapist re-offending. Name of Apeldelrazek Badran, why can’t these scum just be put in the ground?

    We do not need immigrants in any case, but we sure as hell need to stop accepting the scum of the earth, now.

       37 likes

  33. G.W.F. says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37079901

    Can anyone help the BBC? They are searching everywhere for a photo of the thug that the police shot in Milwaukee. It has to be when he was 12 years old

    Current photos are not acceptable for the BBC narrative.

    14040211_10154422780646171_304487861221471329_n.jpg?oh=56d689c9ef212330c409e120d514daff&oe=58149DB2

       40 likes

  34. peterthegreat says:

    GWF Here’s 1 of him being abused by a nasty white man, which might explain why he turned to crime later.

    pope+francis+baby+jesus.jpg

       17 likes

  35. Nibor says:

    Has the BBC reported the news about the fight between Romanians and Muslims in Luton ?

       14 likes

  36. taffman says:

    Do the monotonous Brexophobic broadcasts made by the BBC deter potential investors in Great Britain? ……………………
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37079286

       10 likes

  37. Pounce says:

    So regards that shooting in Queens (New York) on Saturday where a Mullah (Imam) was murdered. Here is the bBC article on how Muslims are feeling in the US at the moment:
    New York mayor: Muslims ‘in crosshairs of bigotry’
    Muslims are living “in the crosshairs of bigotry”, New York’s mayor has said, a day after an imam and his associate were killed while leaving a mosque. Imam Maulama Akonjee, 55, and Thara Uddin, 64, were shot in the head on Saturday in the borough of Queens. Some mosque-goers said the shooting was a hate crime, but police say there is as yet no evidence the men were targeted because of their faith. Attacks on US mosques are at their highest levels since records started.

    I said at the time that the murders looked like a professional hit. and while the bBC is continuing to spread the message that White Americans can only be racist. Here is something they haven’t reported yet:
    Suspected shooter in Queens slaying of Imam and friend taken into police custody, may have been settling score in Muslim-Hispanic feud
    The killer who crept up behind an imam and his friend near a Queens mosque and shot both men in the head may have been settling a score in a feud between Muslims and Hispanics, police sources said early Monday. Sources pointed to an ongoing feud between Muslims and Hispanics in the neighborhood, saying the shooting may have been payback after a group of Muslims allegedly attacked some Hispanics a few weeks earlier.

    .

       27 likes

    • obc says:

      We had a similar thing up here, in t’North. An imam got beaten to death in a park in Rochdale, in what the police and the BBC initially thought (and obviously wished) was a racially motivated attack. As it turned out other Ropers had committed the crime, it seemed to slip down the list of important news items.

         45 likes

      • Grant says:

        obc,

        Yes, typical pathetic BBC bias. They are so stupid that they cannot accept the reality. Why are we having to pay for BBC crap ?

           27 likes

  38. Alex says:

    Bloody hell, folks, we’re seeing Islamist terrorist attacks all across Europe and the media (throughout Europe) are covering and making up utterly pathetic excuses, which are offensive even to an amoeba’s intelligence; to even criticise Islamist terror nowadays is shouted down as ‘Islamaphobia” – a word coined by the far-Left to silence all rational argument. How about persecuted Christians all over the world, then? Do they not get a word like Christianaphobia? Nope. We truly are living in an Orwellian dystopia, folks where skewed logic and warped ideology and morality reign as common sense in the mainstream discourse. The anti-Semitic and anti-Christian far-Left (i.e. that thundering sandal-wearing buffoon Corbyn and that useless old fart armchair revolutionary, John McDonnell, are wholly sympathetic, it seems, to the terrorist’s foul cause. And I actually believe we have a situation now where some people in this country sympathise with the evil and horrific monsters, Isis; you know, the evil butchers who decapitate, burn alive, rape etc. I’m not even sure young Labour supporters today would fight for this country they’re so brainwashed. What a f****** mess we’re in. And the blame lies squarely with Westminster and the Left-wing controlled media.

       76 likes

    • Grant says:

      Alex,

      Superb post. But the cowardice and the stupidity of the Left will not win and they cannot control the internet. In their mindsets, they are still living in the Soviet Union. The rest of us have moved on !

         26 likes

      • Alex says:

        Thanks, Grant. I enjoy your comments. too! Cheers

           11 likes

      • manchesterlad says:

        Rather like the ‘Islam problem’ cannot be tackled without admitting it is a problem, I feel the ‘leftist problem’ is rather similar.

        The left control the media, social services and education; all the vehicles of indoctrination. They are so convinced in the superiority of themselves and their ‘master race’ that I think they see non-leftists rather in the same light as Muslims view non-Muslims.

        The left believe that the end justifies the means – and this makes it much easier for them to turn a blind eye to atrocities.

        I have always thought it interesting how something as evil as the Nazis could have grown out of predominantly decent (as most Nazis were I’m sure, just as most leftists are now) people – being led astray by ideology that appeals to a natural wish of most people to believe they are superior to others. It is interesting how the parallels between the left and their compatriot National Socialists of Germany (the Nazis) are becoming clearer.

           36 likes

        • Grant says:

          manchesterlad,

          Yes ! They are like drug addicts or alcoholics, in denial. Until they accept their addiction , they cannot be cured .

             9 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Alex.
      My understanding that this word “Islamophobia” was first mooted by the Organisation of Islamic Countries( the former Arab League at the UN, I think) as a deliberate effort to create lawfare pretexts to hobble any efforts to stop jihad-salafists from acting in the flabby, legalistic compliant west , using US and UN Human Rights legislatures as well(of course) as our own dear EU.
      The OIC was the Muslim 57 countries at the UN…with only one of them even ever having made some effort to democratise itself-and now Erdogan has snuffed even THAT one now.
      Think they started in in the mid-late 90s, just as Bosnia, Chechnya etc were introducing Europe to the joys of Islam.
      My first spotting of the word was the bloody stupid Runnymede Trust( with the likes of Trevor Phillips, John Sentamu etc) Report into ” Christianity and Racism! or suchlike. This was 2006 or so in the UK I think.
      So this word has a short gestation, it`s not used by real people but is a tracer word like “solidarity” ” inequality” or “appropriate”…it`s a liberal word to say they are better than you.
      If you hear these words outside the BBC, employment law or public sector forums..then let us know.

         22 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      What you are seeing might partly be down to the stupidity of leftie liberals but alas it is down to the bribing of the Western leaders by oil rich Muslim states which is driving it.
      Wahabism of the Middle East intolerant, backwards & violent is being promoted all over the world and is the reason for the rise of Jihad.
      It simply doesn’t matter how cock a maimie the excuse the leaders use, the lunatic foot soldiers will swallow any flawed argument and regurgitate it to order.

         18 likes

  39. Pounce says:

    Interesting story from Bristol which the bBC hasn’t picked up…I wonder why:
    Asylum seeker who Bristol people helped to stay in UK sexually assaulted woman in the city
    An asylum seeker, who remained in Bristol after help from a public campaign calling for him not to be deported, went on to sexually assault a woman in the city. In 2011 the Bristol Post reported how supporters of Sivarajah Suganthan thanked Lib Dem MP Stephen Williams for his help after the Sri Lankan was released from spending 37 days in a detention centre.

       40 likes

    • chrisH says:

      From Jeremy Thorpe through to Mark Oaten, via Cyril Smith, Clement Freud and the inversions of Simon Hughes?
      Who else but a Lib Dem would crave to have sexual assailants perving about his domain?
      The Lib Dems-the Paedos Party…Labour bringing up the rear though…oo er!

         29 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Well I bet ‘the people of Bristol’ feel pretty stupid. They’ve only got themselves to blame. I would never support any campaign to stop someone from being deported. If they are in a position to be deported then clearly they are here illegally, or have committed a criminal act. Kick ’em out and pull up the drawbridge.

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  40. 60022Mallard says:

    With all the good news coming out of Rio is the BBC one of the few disappointed?

    I feel sure there were editiorial meetings pre-start discussing how they could blame Brexit for a loss of form and few medals!

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  41. chrisH says:

    Has anybody yet linked the “awesome” results from Team UK/GB and Ulster out in Brazil with our vote to leave the EU?
    The Brexit effect?…you know, proud islands now unshackled from serving the EU flag?
    Proud to be English, Welsh and Irish-oh, go on…the Scots too.
    A Brexit Positive surely!

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    • Grant says:

      cH,

      Even the bloody Scots ?

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      • chrisH says:

        Bases solely on whether the athlete voted IN or OUT in the Referendum.
        England and Wales are grand-and my understanding is that the Ulster Protestants voted to Leave, whereas the IRA gravy train required a Remain vote.
        The Scots?…if they`re not Sturgeons haggis bags who vote SNP or Labour…then I wish them well too.
        But if they voted for more EU, more London-type of freebies-then they can fish!
        Wonder if Michael Gove could be persuaded to get Scotland back in the camp?…Ruth Davison is awful…

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  42. Geoff says:

    Tonight’s BBC Points West had an article on driving tests an the time time its taking to get a test, anywhere between 14-19 weeks within in the region.

    No worries the BBC are on the case and interview lots of nice indigenous youngsters who are waiting for their tests, the reason we’re told is because of nasty Tory cut backs, maybe, but I bet there is another reason which the BBC would prefer to ignore, UBER are always in need of drivers…..

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    • Number 7 says:

      Having encountered some of our enrichers, on the roads, when I was living in Gloucestershire. In my experience, they shouldn’t be allowed on a skateboard.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        To be fair, they have probably never troubled the DVLA or their local driving examiners. A Sudanese driving licence should be good enough for anybody, right?

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        • Number 7 says:

          Point made – until one or two “accidents” including a fatality. Probably not deported!

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          • TheBrutalTruth says:

            Agree with your point Rob – I lived in South Africa for just over a year and one thing that had me gobsmacked was listening to their local radio in February when an announcement came on that already 800 odd people had been killed on their roads that year… WHAT! and its February!? It was the casual delivery of the radio presenter that made me double take. Insurance is also “optional”. Besides Sudan (South at least) having only been created as a country just a few years ago we need to have a long hard look at treating foreign licenses the same as ours as I can’t personally vouch for Sudan but having lived in South Africa if you have a couple thousand rand you can buy whatever you want, including a driving license. What the BBC just really don’t get is that these things are facts and its not racist to suggest that standards are somewhat, how do I say, sub in other parts of the world and we should protect ourselves from this fact accordingly. Good job we’ve got the BBC and their investigative journalists to bring these issues to the forefront ey. To go back to the SA point, in honesty anyone who has driven on their roads, particularly the “so called” motorways will probably be surprised the figure is as low as 800 odd every 2 months.

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            • Nibor says:

              Same with the Eastern Bloc HGV drivers . A well known international parcels company was employing them for six months before it realised they didn’t have the licence for the biggest category of vehicle .

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            • Peter Grimes says:

              If you have £100 or so you can pay someone to personate you in the driving test over here. There are professional driving test takers who have facilitated licences for hundreds of foreigners, including illegals. Could you tell if the person whose face is on the provisional. licence is the person sitting the test?

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        • Andrew Caplan says:

          “A Sudanese driving licence should be good enough for anybody, right?”

          Of course it’s good enough, it’s just that the driving test places emphasis on different skills.

          training32.jpg

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Shouldn’t the Brexitphobic BBC be counting all the EU medals together ?
    … Only problem with that, someone might notice which state is doing almost all the legwork ….as usual !

    Couldn’t the Greeks borrow medals from some other countries …with a brazen lie of promising to pay them back ?

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  44. StewGreen says:

    BBC News Comedy awards ..about making the audience laugh ?
    … No Sunday’s nights final of BBC New Comedy award was about ticking boxes
    ☑ sneer at UKIP
    ☑ sneer at Trump
    ☑ sneer at Brexit vote

    ☑ Black comedian playing the victim *
    ….. whilst simultaneously stereotyping eg “white people can’t dance”
    * That was the last guest comedian ..I do not make the crap up.

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  45. scribblingscribe says:

    Was trying to find the source of the term Islamophobia and came across this on wiki …

    The Runnymede report contrasted “open” and “closed” views of Islam, and stated that the following eight “closed” views are equated with Islamophobia:
    1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
    2. It is seen as separate and “other”. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
    3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
    4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
    5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
    6. Criticisms made of “the West” by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
    7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
    8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal.[59]

    Now, if you aren’t a writer for the Guardian or a BBC producer how could you not see that 1-5 are statements of fact? There may be an agreement that they are not universal, in that some sects of Muslims do not fall into those categories, but right now those sects appear few and far between.

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  46. Number 7 says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/15/every-pound-of-eu-funding-to-undergo-national-interest-test-to-e/

    “The Government has now pledged to fill the shortfall with public money until at least 2020, which based on the projections that Brexit will take two years, means the UK government will make up a two-year shortfall.

    However, whilst the Government will guarantee funding for farmers and universities, Mr Gauke make clear that other sources of money will be reviewed to ensure that the Treasury is getting value for money.”

    Does this include the (under the counter) bribes they give to the Nation’s Favourite Broadcaster?

    It doesn’t look good – Oh Dear, How Sad, Never Mind.

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    • taffman says:

      Number 7 / Rhif Saith
      That may explain the reason for Al Beeb’s relentless Brexophobia ?

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  47. Number 7 says:

    Shwmae taffman – I won’t attempt any other translations having been comprehensively put down by our resident student. I was trying to be polite.

    Where are they going to have the money for all the empty champagne bottles when Jeremy storms into Downing St?

    PS. Rhif Saith = No. 7.

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  48. Tothepoint says:

    A few posts discuss the lefts not only encouraged and accepted bigotry against things/subjects they dislike, but how this bigotry is worryingly becoming legalised. ‘Islamaphobia’, ‘racism’ and ‘sexism’ are being used as a weapon against anyone who has the bollocks (oh, sure I just heard screams of “sexist, bigot!!” just then….) to challenge thoughts and ideas that are not only just plain wrong, but are also damaging our country.

    However there are a few genuine, real isms and phobias, which are endemic within the left today……

    ‘whiteism’: a complete hatred towards all white people. White people are not only the cause of everything that’s going wrong in the world, we are all actively involved in it. Every single white person is evil, racist, bigoted…. So no generalisation there then folks!!!!!

    ‘Far-rightaphobia’: A complete and ungrounded irrational fear of the Far right, yet this has never materialised, nor has any event given a reason for anyone to believe they are a threat. Now that is a genuine irrational fear as it doesnt exist

    Please feel free to list your own examples

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    • embolden says:

      Anti-historicism, or historic revisionism……the falsification of history to suit the lefts agenda, the unexamined assumptions of this phenomenon are often represented in BBC output.

      A few examples….the obsession with the “international brigades” and the Spanish Civil War…..hey guys the right won, because the Red Terror was, as always, turned on itself when it ran out of nuns churchgoing workers and peasants to murder.

      The dating of the start point of all problems with Muslims to “the Crusades” whilst ignoring the years of Islamic invasion and aggression that preceded the Christian defensive reaction.

      Slavery….the complete ignoring of North African white slaving activity in the Mediterranean and western coasts of Spain and the British Isles.

      The obsession with seeking the taint of Nazism in every nation….except the Palestinians.

      The denigration of the British Empire, despite its role in world development and the liberation of Europe from German domination….twice.

      The silence around the Gulag and the death toll of Communist rule, wherever it was tried. ( compare and contrast with fascism, nazism and imperialism. )

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      • Nibor says:

        Moral equivalence .
        For any and every bad thing a non westerner does , showing a bad thing that a westerner does .
        The two bad things are equivalised IE the non westerners is down rated but the westerners is exaggerated .
        For example , complain about immigrants and crime , and the Guardianista will point out that indigenous people commit crime . As though you import more criminals because there are some already here .
        Another is that all immigrants are equalised in the benefits they bring ( even if they go on benefits) .S o no complaining about Romanian fraudsters because there is a doctor working in a hospital .

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  49. Mike Hunt says:

    Here’s a picture of Oscar Morel, the man who’s been charged with the New York mosque murders, from the Sky News report:

    16imam5-master768.jpg

    Now why doesn’t the BBC publish the picture? And why has the story disappeared from the BBC front page?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37090854
    http://news.sky.com/story/man-charged-over-new-york-mosque-double-murder-10538519

    [Edit: NY times pic as sky one wouldn’t load]

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    • Number 6 says:

      Oh no….a tanned killer

      Cant have that made known now

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      And why has the story disappeared from the BBC front page?

      Well, at least it made it there. As far as I can tell, yesterday’s Cologne axe attack simply never happened according to the BBC.

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    • Andrew Caplan says:

      Perhaps he’s just a Norwegian with an extreme reaction to Grecian 2000?

      Or perhaps the photographer’s flash didn’t go off?

      There must be an explanation for this aberration.

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