Well then, if you wondered where I have been since Thursday night, the answer is – RELISHING the sour faces of the BBC and the rest of our supine pro EU media. I sat up all night to watch the results in the Referendum come flowing. Much wine was consumed! What joy. At first the BBC were determined to suggest that Newcastle and Sunderland were “outlier” results, and that the Remain vote would be better elsewhere. And the hours went by and their mood got gloomier! It was delicious to see them get sadder and sadder and even London could not safe the cause. And all the pro Remain shills they rolled in were in glorious denial until the point where it became obvious even to them that they had LOST and the UK had won. Superb.
Since then, the BBC is now leading the charge against “older people” for betraying the “yoof”! They are also hyping up the petulance from Brussels. It has been a fantastic 48 hours to watch these rabid Europhile shills having to face the fact that we are leaving their precious EU.
On a separate note, this will be my last post for three weeks. I am off to California tomorrow and will not be in a position to write for the subsequent three weeks. I am delighted to say that we have a few new moderators to cover things and help Alan in my absence. I wish them and you all the very best and for goodness sake let’s keep holding the BBC to account. They took a big blow on Thursday night and I predict much venom from them in the weeks ahead.
Until we next meet, BYE!
Hilary Benn has just publicly accepted brexit and told people to get on with it
Now for the rest of the deluded and mentally incapacitated to realise yhe facts
His father was a loon, but a democratic loon.
Example of Remain logic this morning.
Cameras at village fete somewhere in Warwickshire, I think it was. Last interviewed was woman who spoke very good English but with clear European accent. Might have been Dutch (paraphrased):
“I’m an immigrant. It might not be obvious because I’ve been here a long time, but I am. You have made it clear that you don’t like immigrants, therefore you don’t like me.”
Maria, the perfect come back to that would be to tell her that according to the left, we’re all immigrants! So does that mean the Leavers don’t like themselves, either?
Northern Ireland lost 1-0 last night….a ‘close’ result
It was an own goal and the scorer bitterly regrets it and has changed his opinion on things
He now demands another game
/sarcasm off
On the other hand,those of us who lost but who also arent spoilt teenagers with a bigger chip on their shoulder than a brain,accept it
Think thats how it works……in the real world anyway
McDonald tells Brillo on Sunday Politics Corbyn “is going nowhere”. Remarkable insight so untypical of him.
War criminal Bliar on with brillo
Why are we being lectured to by someone who should be in jail?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36632276
Well if I was an investor I would consider moving my money out of Europe .
Taffman lets keep an eye on how EUR/GBP trades this week . I agree sell the shit out of that cross. Interesting that with all the uncertainty last week it seemed to be investors piling into JPY and CHF not a lot of buyers for EURO’s
Lock13
It all depends on the political tremors emanating from Europe tomorrow. If they start ‘turning the screws’ on UK’s economy – it will be a two way process . Also they sell more to us than we sell to them, added to that their tourism will suffer.
I expect there to big changes at the top end of the EU Parliament.
Agree mate . I cannot see them continuing their messy divorce rhetoric even Junker is not that stupid . It will soon turn to sweetness and light as they try to wind us back into their orbit. We could do with getting a new PM in quickly August not October.
Lock13
Fox is the name and fox is the nature. Get him in as the nations leader .
taffman,
Absolutely !
I concur Gents
I think David Davis might be better a better choice than Liam Fox; I like Fox but I’m unconvinced he is tough enough.
Al, yes, Davis would be excellent too. They have a lot of talent to choose from. They Remainers have no-one of any substance.
With you both there lads.
David Davis ought to have been given the job in 2005-and has a record of thinking for himself-remember when he stood down as an MP when the Government were trying ID cards or detentions without trail or such.
Seems to have been his own man long enough, and if Nigels happy-then I will be too.
PS. Heard Fox say somewhere recently that Farage and UKIP have done their job…so he`s toast…
I don’t know why they’re bothering to quote Junker. We will be offered whatever terms Merkel wants to offer and when we know them we can then respond appropriately – short and to the point.
If only Curt Jurgens was still alive she could send him to talk to our ambassador in Switzerland.
I shouldn’t reply to my own posts, but this is the Curt Jurgens clip.
He didn’t finish his tea !
Never trust anyone who doesn’t finish his tea.
taffman, LOL ! Very bad manners !
My favourite clip of all. Thanks for posting.
Quote:
“”Don’t dictate or threaten us unless you’re marching up Whitehall, and even then we won’t listen!”
How apt!
BBC Online News:
“HSBC ‘to move jobs to Paris if UK leaves single market'”
“”The staff who would be relocated would be those who already process payments made in euros for HSBC in Canary Wharf””‘
“”Thursday’s referendum result means the UK will need to renegotiate its trade relationship with the European Union – including whether it remains part of the single market'”” (BBC comment, not that of HSBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36629745
So, we have another BBC non-story. A small number of HSBC workers moving to Europe to facilitate the movement of money.
The BBC comment is not endorsed by HSBC.
How many British workers are NOT moving to Europe? Will the BBC cover that? Of course not. That would be unfairly impartial.
Complete lie there are Operations teams at Banks processing payments in every currency pair in every major city around the World . Singapore , London , New York being the major ones it matters not one jot where they are situated to confirm and settle a trade.
Lock13,
Exactly.
I don’t know how many of you listened to a feisty Any Questions at the weekend. It was a real eye opener. The audience were the usual whooping, foot stomping, intolerant “liberals. Emily Thornberry (the sneeringly arrogant Labour MP who hates our flag) had the audience cheering and hooting when she ranted about the plight of her children and their hopes of an affluent future and their ability to live and work in Europe…no doubt in some well paid job for the EU.
Steven Woolfe, UKIP’s immigration spokesman, rounded on her and the audience. He was really brilliant! He admonished them for their narrow minded selfishness, told them that all civilised life didn’t end at Islington, that not all kids are going to uni’ and that there are other people, the largely ignored people from council estates who think they’re being taken for granted. This metropolitan audience didn’t like it at all. They seemed stunned.
Trying to estimate the levels of support in this typical BBC audience I’d say that approximately 95% were pro Remain. We now know that over 50% of our people don’t think like that. Bias at the Beeb?
Surely not…
Time for a judicial inquiry into Al Beeb’s conduct and bias .
As the rest of the chattering classes fuss over irrelevant sideshows like Boris and Corbyn…we UKIP types need to ensure that the likes of Steven Woolf and Paul Nuttall get looked after-as well as King Nigel.
We`ll know Nigel is healed when he revisits Suzanne, uses Louise and clearly opens channels to Gisela, Mick Cash, Jenny Jones-and all the oppos who risked a LOT with their cosy clubs in voting with, we the people.
For example, just seen a bloke called Ray Finch -he`s UKIP and on the BBC.
Nigel needs to have a rest, set aside his ego(and boy, has he been badly bruised-he needs to know that no mandate will not have him right at the heart of it).and remember the likes of Suzanne Evans and fellow people who put their necks out for UKIP.
This is now beyond UKIPs remit-but funnily enough, UKIP are the only brake , the only accelerator.
Make contact with UKIP-take the temperature locally, and ensure that “No Nigel-No Mandate” is the rule.
And don`t be put off by the blazers, befuddlement and daftness-a new way is coming and they were ihere before I was.
Put it on your T-shirt…sometimes it`s ALL that too many people read that day.
Tell Sid eh?
Ditto Jeff.
For Woolf to stick his head into that lions den of theirs( pig“s head otherwise engaged) was brave and fearless to the politicos-if not the likes of us.
Woolf said EXACTLY what was needed to them all-and that tome was his baptism in the liberal slurry and chickenshit entrails of what used to be politics, what used to be media analysis.
The Dimbleby Sun Kings are done-and, they seem to know it.
So Woolf, Raab, Jacob Rees Mogg-those INDEPENDENT Tories with youth and courage…Leadsom, Stuart/Hoey and Patel,,,those brave brave women who faced the shitstorms for us…are our future…can live with any of them as they spoke for Britain.
There`ll be others too who didn`t bow the knee/need to Baal, Ball or Bollox( ( I Kings 19.18).
Nigel needs to get Steven, Paul and all the others ready to “go back to their-as yet unauthorised constituencies…and prepare for government!”
Like 2009 and the MPs expenses when it SHOULD have been created…are we preparing for the coup…or content and fit only to return to the coop?… fit only for the chicken livers like Javid and IDS, Grayling and Fallon?
We wanted justice-but all we got was Bercow….sorry media scum and political dream genies…THIS time, we`ll be ready.
I`ll never say this again I imagine-but Duran Durans lyrics seem to make sense…prancing prophets maybe?
‘Labour Crisis Follows Brexit Vote’ – My favourite ever BBC headline!
BBC Headline We are Likely To See:
“”Parliament Overturns Divisive Brexit Vote””
Yes, I’ve seen the Lammy article too. Makes you wonder why Cameron didn’t
use this as a ‘get out’ clause (margin not big enough) and put the vote to a strong Remain parliament.
If the Lammy option is taken up it will be interesting to see the number of MP’s willing to sacrifice their seats in order to remain in the EU for they will in many cases not represent the people who voted them in.
The backlash, if this is the outcome, will be virtual civil war.
Tony Paterson, the Berlin correspendent of the Independent is even pushing this line on the German counterpart of Sunday Politics. German Europhile journalists are refusing to clutch at this ridiculous straw. In fact, German europhiles seem unusually concilistory, Merkel slapping down Juncher for wanting an immediate start to exit talks.
Yesterday I was watching a ZDF reporter interviewing Juncker. ZDF is 100% europhile and does not have to feign neutrality like the BBC. Nevertheless the reporter seemed to be quietly gleeful asking Juncker about Frexit, Dexit, Nexit, Spexit and whether a domino effect would lead to the collapse of the EU. Juncker did not look well pleased and I’m sure pre 23rd June no one in the ZDF would have dared put this heresy to him.
Paul Joseph Watson rightly predicts that everything bad will be blamed on Brexit. We must be prepared for this and, so we can laugh at them, blame all historical disasters on Brexit. E.g. The Titanic was sunk because of Brexit, Jack the Ripper was a product of Brexit, Kennedy’s and King’s shootings were caused by Brexit. The World Wars, Krakatoa, the Fall of the Roman Empire aree more examples we can use. Once they start Operation Accusation we will be ready for a good laugh at their expense.
It will at least make a change from blaming fucking Thatcher.
Sturgeon says Holyrood will try and block Brexit. What a nasty, anti-democratic, piece of work this little woman is.
Then we should have a vote on casting them adrift
That’s precisely the reaction she wants. She’s a shit-stirrer par excellence.
The whole of the UK ought to have a vote on the composition of the country. Then the Scots would finally discover how much (or little) they are loved as a result of their incessant moaning.
I would not have thought the Scottish borders would vote to leave the UK. As this is continuous strip of land,maybe Scotland should be partitioned and the Scotland/England moved northwards. I’m sure Sturgeon would not refuse as she is so keen on addressing minority interests.
ID,
I posted before that Shetland would probably vote to join Norway. To follow Nicky’s twisted logic, an Independent Scotland should then have local referenda “in or out “. The higlands and Islands, who rightfully resent Glasgow and Edinburgh would probably vote out and have a capital in Inverness. Aberdeen and the North-East would eiher join them or go independent.
I doubt if the Scottish borders would vote to join England but may go independent. What would be left would be a Central Belt , perhaps including the South-West. The big divide in Scotland is between the Central Belt and the rest. It would be fun.
Grant
I wasn’t being entirely serious, but the Borders is in some ways the EU pipedream without the burocracy. The national political and economic borders are largely meaningless, although there are differences in legislation.
Why does a website called “Undiscovered Scotland” include parts of the northern end of England? There are three main reasons. Firstly in response to feedback from visitors and businesses that it would make sense to stick less rigidly to the national boundary in order to include areas passed through by most people going to and from Scotland. Secondly because we had already found ourselves being drawn over the border in a small way into the area around Berwick-upon-Tweed and it made sense to formalise what was likely to become an increasingly porous southern edge to our coverage. And thirdly because there is a vast amount to see and do in the area, and we want to get to know it better and set out the results of our explorations for visitors to the site.
No one whether in the Scottish borders or the English borders wants an annoying national border
ID,
I quite agree but , if Scotland goes independent , it will be for the much more powerful England to decide whether to “police” the border. Not in either countries’ interests to have controls , visas etc. but England will have the whip hand.
Grant
Yes, if Scotland is “independent” in the EU, England will have to guard the border to keep out illegal immigrants who will still be attracted to the black economies in London etc. Will the Scots in the British Armed forces want to leave and form a new Scottish military?
To be serious, I think the Shetlands Council has already got a plan after taking advice from the Isle of Man government, so it would be UK Crown dependency status for the Shetland Islands, Jersey, Guernsey, Isle of Man and followed by other areas of Scotland such as Orkney and the Berwickshire crown dependency area of the UK, with open borders with England, but with a closed border with Scotland when Scotland rejoins the remnants of a decaying EU. Berwick is currently in England, but Berwickshire is currently in Scotland so the union of Berwick with its county with UK Crown dependency status after hundreds of years of separation could be rather popular.
One area of politics that our ‘protest’ community has been quite successful in is in invoking legal review of government actions. But that is a two-edged weapon, when the ‘protest’ group becomes the government the law can be used against them.
Scotland isn’t a sovereign nation so Nicola Sturgeon can’t legally call a referendum nor can she spend money on running one. Similarly she can’t use the public purse to engage in talks with EU/European leaders as she doesn’t have delegated foreign policy powers. She would be committing a criminal offence just by claiming for the air fare to Brussels. And the irony is that the first people that would stop her little game would be Scotland’s own law officers.
Of course she could try UDI but I think she would find that the Scottish law officers, police and military have all sworn fealty to HM.
Does that mean that Salmond was in breach of the law when he was trumpeting on about ‘the sovereign will of the Scottish people’ back in 2014?
When Salmond was First Minister, he and Nicky flew to Tehran to have “discussions” with the Iranian Government. Salmond and Sturgeon are mentally deranged !
An interesting issue someone has pointed out about the referendum petition.
The current position is that the UK will leave the EU, and therefore the criteria the petitioners are proposing should therefore be applied to them.
A 75% turnout, and a 60% vote in favour of remaining.
I think they then have a mountain to climb !
Thoughtful,
This 2nd referendum petition topic has been turned on its head it would appear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407
At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, before this story broke I said the petition had been created around 26th May (it was actually 24th May) and I suggested that the surge in signatures came after the vote.
The article states,’A House of Commons spokeswoman said the petition was created on 24 May. There were 22 signatures on it at the time the referendum result was announced.’
Later it states,’In a statement posted on Facebook, a campaigner for the English Democrats party identifying himself as Oliver Healey says he started the petition “when it was looking unlikely that ‘leave’ were going to win, with the intention of making it harder for ‘remain’ to further shackle us to the EU”. He says the petition has since been “hijacked by the remain campaign”.’
The BBC has previously been very keen to headline this petition. Oh dear.
And another amusing point I’ve just thought of – if a 75% turnout is needed and if none of the original Leave voters turn out to vote then we’d never reach the 75% turnout so the result would never be overturned. We don’t actually have to even go and vote! This is probably the trick the Remainers were hoping to pull if they did get the original referendum nullified and another referendum under their new rules.
Suppose “Signs of the Times” IS a biblical concept…but you find Jesus, God in all the culture.
Witness Bruce at Wembley on June 5th.
He chose to play “Santa Claus is Coming To Town” live…in JUNE?…in the sunshine?
How outre -only Bruce, how lovely!
Oh dear-should have been “Merry Christmas Everybody” by Slade.
That line….”look to the future now, it`s only just begun”
Now Noddy and chums may not holler in mock-gospel parodies….but Noddy speaks for us more than any Rumson blowhard with a stable load of hangers-on!
Some bloke called Jim Partridge on telly who called it right the other day.
Good man…Alan would have voted OUT!
Funny though-Coogan would have voted in.
Don`t we live in the strangest times when our cartoons and caricatures turn out to be more “authentic”…and “closer to the hearts and minds of the British people” than their “creators”?
But there again-aren`t we seeing now with Javid, IDS and May-they`ve been cartoons characters for too long and Thursday has binned them , unless Nigel and the likes of Gove and Hoey are CENTRAL to ANY efforts to speak for the country.
Hence-whether the Tories want to wait until October for their conference is no longer their prerogative.
The need to piss off up to Batley..or Spen…even Scarborough if they can find it(Aykbourne might rmind them)-and decide on a serious Brexiteer like Leadsom or Gove , Hannan to lead themselves.
Their final Summser season on the end of the pier-and WE wil decide whether to tip them over it.
The fuckers are on perpetual holiday now aren`t they?…no need to ask for time off to #emote for Jo.com#?
So get your heads out of the pebbles Tory twats…and let`s see a “procession of rolling heads”( Imagine?) down the cobbles streets of Dewsbury-better to get your heads out of the pebbles that OUR heads out of the desert sands of Arabia.
As for that Five Year Fixed term crap-well do what you did when you tried to add two million more pothead pixies onto the electoral roll for Thursday last…make it up as you fuck off out the door!
Help yourself to vellum if you`re not a veggie lesbian in need of a text from George or Owen.
Isn`t Parliament in need of repair?…well then Euro HSE regs surely mean they`d best piss off out of London then, and meet some people then.
I mean-Airey Neave and ian Gow were hardly protected now were they?…and we HATE the political-media quadrilles and excuse me`s all over the meeja!
Come Dancing you sods?…no, this is STRICTLY matye?…ask Sarah Teathered!
Sheffield from yesterday sound s good bet-the Crucible does me”
Or-failing that-what about the Stadium Of Light in the Blessed plot of Sunderland?
How DARE they try to prise our decision out of our hands-we know their expenses mean their hands are in the till , but no longer playing pocket billiards with the Vote Leave types like us.
chrisH,
Absolutely. And what a ghastly thought to have either Boris or Teresa. As posted above, Liam is my man and I don’t mean Byrne.
I would like to see Priti Patel take it on
No 6, Yes she would be good.
And we would see a lot more of her on TV, so to speak !
David Davis got mentioned earlier by a few of us.
He`d be a good bloke to back.
Fantastic. Love your line about the end of the pier. Shame we haven’t heard anything from the Panto Dame from the left side of the pier though – we could have had even more laughs. “It’s behind you!”
Al Beeb commentators telling us that Britain will be at the end of the queue as far as trade with the with United States is concerned . Last I heard was that there is no queue.
Therefore we have the opportunity to be first, especially if Trump wins .
No doubt we are in for a stream of this sort of nonsense from disgruntled Leavers in the media, led by the BBC but (in a curious twist) including the Mail on Sunday.
On which point, if anyone fancies the job of editor at the MoS, I’d get your CV in fast.
We wuz robbed. Petition for a re- play of the England-Russia Football Match
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/replay-the-england-v-russia-football-match
Aren`t Norther Ireland entitled to demand a recount after the goals came in last night?
I mean it might appear to be binary…one goal to one, none to the other.
But is that fair?…is that right?
Here`s hoping that Corbyns re-election has the backing of 60% of the Boston Wind Sox and on a 75% turnout….which, as I recall is another word for having a shit,
Does Labour HAVE any shits?….shall we take a peek boys and girls?….Sarah Woollaston might have a PR(Per rectum) look for us-she`s not fit for anything else, thank Buddha she`s got that day job to go back to.
Well remember some Tory buffer called Julian Amery moaning when The Blessed Brexiteer Mrs Thatcher sacked Churchills useless gun trading louche ponce of a grandson or such…called Winston too.
“How dare they sack a Churchill” said the old fool.
But-compared to Labour, at least the Tories ARE tribal twisters…if loyal and stupid.
“How dare they sack a Benn”…I was expecting this today from the Lying Left.
Seems to me there`s at LEAST two jobs suitable for Tonys foreskin with spex!
1. Chairman of the Tory Party-some nomark called Lord Feldman fell on his stolen letter opener on Friday
2. New EU Commissioner in Brussels….Lord Hill Of Beanz ( watch him on Paxmans classic film on the Beeb a few weeks ago…Conrad Knight Sucks…to quote Alan Partridge!)…I believe that Juncker, Schultz and Verhofstead need skid marks and shit sweeteners cleaned from their togas over there at present).
Both are-of necessity “short-term contricks” zero-hour 9a.m maybe?
Oh-and one just in!
3. The Lady Baroness Warsis frond-flicker as she passes by!
OK folks-turn the tellies off, enjoy your popcorn and watch the first nervous wreck that never floated anyway…melting before our eyes…the BBC and the political orders are FUCKED!…watch it all unfold as it should.
” I am a child of the EUniverse”…so sang Les Crane!
Only EU joke in so far….now we`re leaving the EU…Chris Eubank is-from this day forward-to be known only as Chris Bank!
Boom Boom…Basil Brush at Glasto now…yet ANOTHER job for Hilary Wank there-he`s had his hand up Corbyuns arse for too long, time to get e REAL puppet job!
Dedicated to Mr Donald Trump!
PS-“Corbyn is going nowhere”
So says YouTubes link to McDonnells smileathon on Andrew Neil earlier…and THAT is the BBC/Labours proud headline!!!
Comedy gold!…don`t tell the twats though eh?
Much as it hurts I think we should be fair to Corbyn. He had a very difficult message to sell on his tour of council estates in the north: “I know you’re piss poor and your life is shit because of the EU requirement for open borders, but it’s important that you vote Remain so that those of us in Islington can still enjoy eating caviar and drinking champaigne”. The message didn’t take but he must have been fairly persuasive or he wouldn’t have got out alive.
I don’t think it would have made any difference to the Leave vote whoever was the Labour leader.
The Labour party has shown itself, over many years, to be in favour of immigration generally and can’t see a downside to unrestricted immigration from the EU.
The white, working class, who were the core of Labour’s voters, don’t share that enthusiasm and have (belatedly) demonstrated that in the most decisive way.
It isn’t new leaders the Labour party needs: it is new policies.
If it doesn’t change; it will never get into power again (IMHO). I’m not sure though that it can change; so hopefully like the EU with which it shares that unattractive characteristic of intractability it will begin to fracture.
I’m sure that the Islington Labour lot would have cheered a division of SS troops goose stepping up The Mall to prove how welcoming and inclusive they were to immigrants.
Corbyn will be a case study in political selling of the soul to assuage the dullards that Labour now provides lunatic asylum for.
He surely used to be an OUT voter-but sold it all out just so he could sit next to the whoopee cushions like Abbott, Eagle and Falconer.
Had he reached over his mediocrities in his Shadow Puppets-and got his Three Poundland Barmy Army to say “NO ” to the EU., well it could not have been waycyst could it…and he`d have been our Sooty.
That`s all we wanted of this stained sock of historical droolings.
And-he`d be our next PM-even though he`s a worthless anti-Semitic shit…because this was the only issue in town in our lifetimes.
And the massive bleeding elephant walked right past him…he chose to stroke his mouse.
And history drained these worthless dolts from any prospect of writing another word in our Islands Story.
Good post cH; it’s interesting to think that if Corbyn had done as you suggest and followed his own beliefs, re the EU, his stock would have risen mightily amongst those core voters who turned away from them so spectacularly in the referendum.
In a not disimilar way; had Cameron been honest when he spoke about recommending Brexit if he didn’t get what he wanted via his re-negotiation of Britain’s membership of the EU.
He could have led the Leave campaign himself; been on the right side of the referendum result and gone down in history as the man who released us from the Brussels / Strasbourg asylum: his position and that of the Conservative party would have been unassailable. He would also have secured a favoured place in our nation’s history.
Enoch Powell said all political careers end in failure; there can’t be many though which have ended so dismally as Davis Cameron’s.
Dunno what’s more surprising…The ladies reaction, or the fact the BBC would then broad cast this..
This is a good article by John Derbyshire about Brexit.
http://www.vdare.com/articles/rule-britannia-john-derbyshire-on-brexit-the-immigrant-and-geezer-votes-anddonald-j-trump
Time to sack Mark Karney from the Bank of England !
Back at the time of the ERM Lord Lamont announced £30 Bn to prop up sterling. Knowing that this was the figure they had to work with gave the currency speculators a massive advantage, and over the next few days they took every penny of it !
Now Karney has foolishly announced to the world he is prepared to spend £250Bn to prop up Sterling. Expect tomorrow to see the currency speculators take every penny of that too.
That’s how currency speculation works! If you can sell so much that it over comes the ability of the national bank, the currencies value falls, and there’s your profit. You don’t actually need any actual money to do this either – just promisory notes.
And what is the point in propping it up anyway? It soon returned to its appropriate value once Lawson had frittered our money away.
Karney must not be allowed to do the same again.
Carney is ex-Goldman Sachs. That’s like putting a former Mafia man in charge of the lottery. He should never have been appointed. He must be sacked.
GC, That is the first thing a new PM should do. Why should this idiot use our money to influence markets ? Let the markets decide.
Surprised this hasn’t been posted yet !
Second EU referendum petition investigated for fraud
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407
Thoughtful,
Ironically, I posted that link above in response to one of your comments. Poor form on my part to barge in, I do apologise.
22 signatures on the petition when the referendum result was announced. Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
Ah, that’s the trouble with replies, they end up several posts back, and checking them all for content isn’t worth the time !
The second referendum petition. 39 thousand signatures from the Vatican’s population of 800. And from North Korea are 24,000 signatures. An island witb a zero population produces 3000 and so on.
Discrediting the remainiacs might not always be this easy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/concern-as-online-call-for-second-brexit-vote-gains-more-than-39/
Oh Dear Thoughtful – why am I not surprised about this.
But in reality it should all be irrelevant.
Bottom line should be that even if there were 66,410,741 signatures on the on the on- line petition they lost in the referendum that counts. Do you understand w#####s – YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talking of w##### our trolls have gone silent again must be busy filling in some on-line petition somewhere!
All rather weird bearing in mind there is a considerable amount of shit flying around. And these little piggies normally love to wallow in excrement of this sort. You know the sort of stuff.
Youve ruined all the kids chances,
Its a vote for cynicism,
Your all waycists
Youve all been manipulated by the right wing
We cant survive out outside the EU – blah blah blah
Were on the road to hell
I hope you are proud of yourselves
At every awkward negotiation/moment we will now have to listen to these winging cretins and their acolytes shouting with their faux anger and accusations because they lost.
What however is more unfortunate is that our “world respected” state broadcaster is aiding and abetting this whole charade with breathless excitement when reporting on this or on David “Cabbage Brain” Lammies call to reject the referendum result.
I suppose they hope that if they keep this up long enough they may well get a positive governmental response as when they tried to fix the referendum by extending voter registration. Or maybe even hope that this will help in the justification to accept some Euro fudge. – Who knows?
Whilst I can understand those that those who lost the election are pissed off and wish to have their say. What I cannot forgive is the way the MSM and some in government are trying to keep the pot boiling.
What we all need and particularly in the financial markets is a period of calm. Unfortunately speculators will always be speculators but I would expect those in office and positions of responsibility such as the media to now at least try and spread a little oil on troubled waters. We even have some latte quaffing tosser in the Independent calling for Londonistan to leave the UK and stay in the EU. Still I guess they already have their president in situ waiting!
The UK could survive very well without Londonistan – I suppose if this happened and we closed borders. Junker could arrange regular air drops of sushi and mungo beans to keep the capital ticking over until the EU army arrives.
The media seem to be in the process of creating a self fulfilling prophesy – where the media (and especially Aunty) state that Brexit will cause huge rifts in our society, they then stir things up more and guess what we have a society that does not function anymore and in its extreme manifestation it is called anarchy. But I guess Aunty and the left call it progress.
I call it treason.
Maybe once after Dave and the gorgeous caring Sam Cam have dried their heartfelt tears and re-jigged their investment portfolios to reflect the new situation – we may get some sort of statement from our illustrious leader calling for unity and a grown up response – But I am sure if it does come it will be too late to have much effect.
I am afraid there are many in this country who will only accept democracy if it agrees with their own narrow viewpoint in life. I am sorry if many of the people who voted dont work, are in their fifties, drive a white van, have Saint George and Dragon tattoos and own two pit bulls – both called Tyson, but at the end of the day their vote is worth exactly the same as Poly Toynbees, thats democracy for you. It is the greatest weakness of our society but also our greatest strength. And do you know what – if the result had gone the other way I would have accepted it. I was under the impression that is only banana republics and the EU that normally act in this fashion.
Maybe, if they dont like it, can I respectfully suggest these people try and get a job working in the Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea. Theres a fat bloke there called Kim who I am sure would give any aspiring PR consultants or wannabee BBC journos a job – Go on boys and girls do it – you get to follow him around and take notes in a book! – You know you want to – youll love it!!!!!
So they want to set up a Remain Party. This is doing the rounds on the social media. Might just suit the BBC’s agenda
Remain Party
Yesterday at 10:16am ·
HOW TO DEFEAT BREXIT DEMOCRATICALLY
Most MPs support Remain. Pressure them to form a cross-party coalition: the Remain Party – big enough in Parliament to defeat a Brexit government and force a General Election.
Supporters – Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems, SNP – stand on Remain ticket. If Remain wins, it will be a mandate to ignore the Brexit Referendum and Remain in EU.
GWF, Well , if they organise it as competently as they organised the campaign, I don’t think we have much to worry about !
They really haven’t thought this through. How many will still be Remain MPs after an election. I am genuinely shocked by the number of unpleasant people that have no regard whatsoever for democracy.
Hope UKIP are getting their 650 Nigels Numpties ready for the election.
All they`ll need is a purple and yellow rosette and a picture of Bob Geldof on his boat by way of a leaflet.
AND-look at Five Star in Italy…let them be ANYBODY who said NO to the EU, albeit with DBS checks and a clean and consistent record of serving their area, their pubs, schools and churches or mosques etc.
Got our new Brixit Party then…no Eurovison and no BBC license ought to swing the medai onto our side.
I myself would recommend a trial run in Batley and Spen to fine tune what`s coming next.
“Things can Only Get Better” still available for us to use as we wear our Jimmy Savile shell suits for the BBC photo shoots?
Twats.
That would be great because that would mean that the Tory party would lose its 100 remainiacs including my Tory MP. They would then have no need to purge them from the party. Also this would be the case with the Labour party. The Labour party could prove itself free of racism and sexism by having a German woman, Gisela Stuart as its leader, or it could have a man described in the Mensa magazine as the most intelligent Member of Parliament as its leader, Frank Field or another favourite of Mensa members with Science and Astronomy interests, Graham Stringer as leader. It would also make the Liberal party finally disappear into history.
I like it, the Remain party, the party of the out of touch establishment, supported by the very rich, the greedy bankers, taxpayer funded grease balls, those educated in leisure pursuits at university and other uneducated young people and Members of the House of Lords.
Those who don`t learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Sentanaya?…Roosevelt?…who knows?…but a big point therein.
Asked about james Goldsmith before and the Class of 1997( I was a Green Christian candidate up north at that time, so knew fuckall),
And-while catching up on the Express(Widdicomb, Ferrari, Fredercik Forsyth, McKistrey-some good people there!) I found this article by Patrick O Flynn…smoothy, Irish name…but one of the outriders for UKIP a few years back.
A pleasure to read his first hand account of how we got to here…a history curriculum module emerges.
Sir James?…thank you!
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/683149/taken-years-finally-country-back-Brexit-European-Union-referendum
And-I say again- if Nick Griffin voted out…then let him stand in Batley and Spen.
And the elite need to know that it`ll get far nastier that THAT token , if they continue to play with matches by their Reichstags.
Where is George?
Where is George?
Where too be
a) Harriet Harman
b) Ming Campbell
c) Shirley Williams
d) Nick Clegg
e) Russell Brand
f) Charlotte Church
g) Lord Chrstopher Patten
h) Laurie Penney
i) Owen Jones
j) Lord Brian Paddick
k) Paul O Grady
What a team eh?…would LOVE to know what they think…we`d probably get more sense( and an alcoholic high) from poor Charles Kennedys urn.
chrisH, Not a good team, they would all be playing on the Left Wing !
I did like this one:
Great picture.
Does he hope that he`ll be able to claim a “Care In The Community” pass so he can avoid all responsibility for his “special needs” issues re maths and personal /social education.
Looks like a blend of Alan B`stard and Toryboy…which, funnily enough is what he`s turned out to be.
Hope he surfaces soon-we`re all worried about him.
Sorry I left him off the dream team above-have left a ticket for him to fly out and join us all before the Brussels Bitchslap/Bloodbath dues on Tuesday.
Poor sod is the Slimming World Prescott to Camerons Blair…who`d have thunk it?
Oh dear, my heart bleeds. It seems that many of the Glasto remainers a) forgot to vote, b) missed the deadline for postal vote, and (I like this) c) had heard there was a Polling Station at the venue ! and they are no doubt amongst those sounding off on social media that us oldies should be put down. I also take issue with those on all the news channels who say that the Brexiters are poor, illiterate and live in deprived areas. Dear God, how f…….g patronising is that ? I am certainly not in any of those categories, and neither are those I know who also voted to Leave , so where do they get off on demonising anyone who has a democratic right to vote ? I really hope this all goes tits up, because the media are fanning the flames which could cause a civil war, and then we’ll really be in the sh…..
I was reading a biography of Enoch Powell recently and remember this. “what is obvious to professors of Greek and dockers is only weakly grasped by politicians and the press”
I am also far from being “left behind” by globalization.
The Sunday Times (pay-walled) has an article written by Shingi Marariki (pictured below) in which he complains about Brexit saying:-
“The pale, old, white and stale majority with one eye on ruddy-faced patriotism and their backs towards the future have opted for isolationism over unity, for temerity over tolerance.”
Well Shingi, seeing as you seem to think it’s okay to be a bitter racist, I may well be pale, old, white and stale but at least I got my job on merit.
I have never heard of this guy but he is clearly a racist and an ageist. I am neither. No room for people like him in a civilised society.
Racist for wanting to increase our share of trade with the rest off the world. Okaaay…
Rufus , what ? Our share of trade with the rest of the world is increasing at a much greater rate than with the and will increase even more after exit. I am calling him racist because of the word ” White “. That is racist and he is a racist .
I agree with you! I’m questioning why he thinks it’s racist for us to want to further increase our share of trade with the rest of the non-EU world, i.e. people of different races to us.
OK, Rufus. Sorry. I misunderstood you . Agree with your point .
> at least I got my job on merit.
Your assumption that he didn’t is, of course, no indication of prejudice on your part.
Jerrod,
To prevent anyone making assumptions about your views, what is your opinion of Marariki’s remarks that started this discussion?
> what is your opinion of Marariki’s remarks that started this discussion?
That he’s entitled to make them without some ignorant, stupid halfwit on the internet presuming he didn’t get his job on merit purely because of his skin colour. Don’t you agree?
Thank you for your reply. I agree that skin colour should not be an issue. By your own definition then, Marariki is an ignorant, stupid halfwit for making skin colour an issue with regards Brexit. Is that correct? If not, why the inconsistency?
Like shooting fish in a barrel Steve
No 6, It is almost too easy !
I wonder if lil’ ole Shingi remembers Crash Gordon sneaking in the back door to sign the Lisbon treaty after promising us a referendum.
I wonder if he was even born when we started to seriously give away our sovereignty at Maastricht (sovereignty is another word for ‘democracy’ btw Shingi) – and we didn’t get a vote on that either.
I wonder if he has been taught about the tens of thousands of Ugandan refugees whom we gave a home to after they were ethnically cleansed by, um, a very black Idi Amin:
On 4 August 1972, then President of Uganda, Idi Amin, ordered the expulsion of his country’s Asian minority, giving them 90 days to leave Uganda.[1] Amin said that he had a dream in which Allah told him to order the expulsion.
The ethnic cleansing of Indians in Uganda was conducted in a climate of Indophobia, in which the Ugandan government claimed that the Indians were hoarding wealth and goods to the detriment of indigenous Ugandans and “sabotaging” the Ugandan economy…..
…Indians were labelled as “dukawallas” (an occupational term that degenerated into an anti-Indian slur during Amin’s time), and stereotyped as “greedy, conniving”, without any racial identity or loyalty but “always cheating, conspiring and plotting” to subvert Uganda. Amin used this propaganda to justify a campaign of “de-Indianization”, eventually resulting in the expulsion and ethnic cleansing of Uganda’s Indian minority.
Now that’s what you call racism, Shingi. But hey ho, only whites can be racist in your small, narrow-minded, under-educated world.
No, don’t lecture me because I’m ‘old’ and white. This vote was the opportunity I have twice been denied to protect our precious and hard-won democracy. Unless you and your fragile, self-regarding, self-indulgent, ill-informed generation balls it up again at some point in the future, you will remember this week as the day British democracy was rescued from the clutches of an authoritarian elite whose ambitions go well beyond Europe. As Manuel Barroso grandly proclaimed when accepting the Nobel Peace Prize on behalf of the EU: ‘The European Union is the blueprint for a future world government’. If you can’t work out the implications of that for yourself, Shingi, I’ll explain: that would be a government you won’t have elected and won’t be able to throw out of power because you happily threw away our democracy. Well thank God you haven’t. One day, hopefully, you too will be older and wiser.
Oh, and by the way, ‘…isolationism over unity, temerity over tolerance’. Go try talking to the Greeks about that one.
Johnny,
Splendid !
We older white people do not need lectures from young racists like Shingi. Thanks for bringing up the Ugandan Asians who have contributed so much to the UK. One of them, Priti , may be our next PM and I would be happy with that. Amin’s racism was because the Indians were better educated , harder working and more organised than most Ugandans. It was envy. But ignorant little racist boys , like Shingi, will never understand that.
Sky News seems to have gone over to an overt anti-brexit position.
The odious Baroness Warzi is claiming widespread “xenophobic attacks” in Brexit areas.
Boulton claims he has seen this with his own eyes.
Some Sky nonentity is pushing the line that the German government is not demanding the start of the leave process as it is hoping that Britain will “come to its senses”
Hammond whines that if we Brexit we cannot “defend the interests of Gibraltar”. They clearly wanted to remain in the EU.. Why don’t they become Spanish?
ID,
If Gibraltar wants to be part of Spain , who cares ? Has Hammond not resigned yet ?
BBC are putting on another Dimblebore Special tonight. Can we expect yet another droneathon from Fatty Clarke?
He will probably recommend the introduction of the Euro as a panacea for all ills.
There has been a significant shift in the BBC’s position over the last few days. Before Thursday, everything bad was caused by global warming; since then Brexit is to blame. Maybe Brexit causes global warming as well. Let’s ask Roger Harrabin.
I think you might be on to something there, Steve.
Maybe old, white British racists are to blame for both Brexit and Global Warming – after all, as they keep telling us, the CO2 in the atmosphere causing all the climate change goes back to all the post-war coal burning which, from what I remember, was the only way we could get our weekly bath and keep one room in the house warm whilst the rest of the house had ice on the inside of the windows.
What selfish bastards we were. Had it all, didn’t we.
Matt LeBlanc is ‘planning to quit Top Gear if co-host Chris Evans does not go first’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/matt-leblanc-is-planning-to-quit-top-gear-if-co-host-chris-evans/
Matt LeBlanc is allegedly planning to quit Top Gear if his co-host Chris Evans is not removed from the team first, sources have claimed.
The American presenter, 48, is said to be concerned about Evans’s rudeness towards other members of the team, with some suggesting he also is frustrating to film with.
Only the BBC would mention David Lammy as a bod with words to offer to us.
He`s Labours Warsi.
Much more use for the political elite to ask Lemmy for his views…surely he`s channeled his “Remain Vote” to Chris Huhne or such.
Whilst I am not surprised at all by the attempts of the contemptible White Hating BBC to get a second referendum I cannot understand cretins like Lammy doing so.
This second referendum is a typical EU trick, and one of the main reasons the EU is not liked or trusted, this helped Brexit win.
Any MP demonstrating, further, their contempt for the electorate will likely lose their seat at the election. In fact I would expect them to be deselected by their party as they clearly have zero credibility or suitability for being an MP.
“…for the benefit of non-UK readers this is about Brexit. The UK referendum vote to leave the EU. I despise boarders, but nationality is an inescapable concept. Friday morning, when the result was clear I was ashamed to be British, or more specifically, ashamed to be English.
It is largely the uneducated, xenophobic white working class that make up a huge chunk of the population of England & Wales that have just messed it up for the rest of us.
It is the oldest trick of the power crazed. To use populist, anti-intellectual rabble rousing to gain power, setting the rural masses against an “urban elite”. And with horrible irony, ultimately it is the poor that suffer the most from recession and isolation.”
Couldn’t just let that go could I?
“And to provide balance …
An opinion of course that over half the UK would disagree with.
More people voted to leave the EU then didn’t and any amount of sour grapes won’t change that. I’m proud to be British, English and friends with my European colleagues. I’m sure there are some Brits who could learn a lesson or two from the US on how to be patriotic.
Confidence in my children’s and grandchildren’s future has just been renewed.”
Al Beeb are now telling us that – according to Tata, ‘No’ prospective buyers have pulled out of the bid for the company !
I think Al Beeb is in panic mode, esp with the latest petition rigging .
Not on the BBC: Calais Border Deal With France Not Affected by Brexit, Says Paris
The French government has slapped down suggestions that, after Brexit, they will scrap a deal with the UK placing border checks in France and insuring illegal migrants are not waved across the English Channel.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/26/calais-border-deal-france-not-affected-brexit-says-paris/
Strangely, after bigging up the comments of the Mayor of Calais two days ago about wanting to scrap the bilateral border deal, this breaking story is nowhere to be found on the BBC.
Funny that.
Not on the BBC: Italy Demands EU Reform, Warns Over Full Collapse
Italian ministers warned Saturday that the European Union must change direction or risk collapse after Britain’s vote to leave the bloc.
“The unthinkable is happening,” Finance Minister Pier Carlo Padoan said. “A double reaction to Brexit is under way, one financial, one political. The financial one, at least until now, is limited. I am more worried about the political one.
“There is a cocktail of factors that can lead to various outcomes, including a further push towards disintegration.”
Speaking to Corriere della Sera, Padoan also said EU leaders had to understand there could be no more “business as usual” on the key issues of jobs, growth and immigration.
Foreign Minister Paolo Gentiloni meanwhile warned it would be naive to underestimate the significance of Britain leaving or the risk of a surge in anti-EU sentiment across the continent.
“The UK was not only one amongst 28 (member states). It had a great weight because of its financial markets and its international influence,” Gentiloni said in an interview with daily Il Messaggero.
Whodathunkit? I thought we were supposed to be an insignificant country and totally unable to cope by ourselves in the real world. But hey ho.
Funny that this isn’t on the BBC, isn’t it?
Not as if they have an agenda or anything 🙄
Not on the BBC: All Four EU Presidents want Britain Out Quickly
Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, has said that he wants Britain out as soon as possible.
[…]
Mr. Schulz’s comments follow an earlier joint statement of Donald Tusk, President of the European Council, Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission, and Mark Rutte, the President of the Council of Ministers, who stated that the EU expected Britain to act “as soon as possible, however painful the process may be” and that there would be “no renegotiation”.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/22/finally-britons-vote-today-historic-european-union-referendum/
Not on the BBC this story – presumably they are too busy covering Remain’s whinging calls for a re-run, and Cameron’s stalling.
Funny that.
Well, they can ‘want’ all they like. The ball is in our court until we invoke article 50, and I don’t think we should be in any hurry until we know what we are doing.
Note, there is nothing to stop us shortening the two year timescale of negotiations after we invoke article 50 , though we cannot get a guaranteed increase if we need it – though we can ask. Another reason why article 50 can wait IMO.
Manchesterlad, I disagree strongly and think we need to get Brexit declared while Cameron is still in office.
According to the BBC he has said there will be no 2nd referendum, but there’s no guarantee his successor will agree, or even feel bound by the referendum result if he/she is elected on a pro-Remain (or 2nd referendum) platform. It’s not a binding referendum, after all – and things can change quickly in politics.
(It’s not inconceivable that a Conservative/UKIP split could let in a Labour government at a General Election post-October, for example.)
And Cameron promised in Feb to act without delay after the referendum.
I say we must hold him to that promise or we may well find we’ve won the battle, only to have lost the war.
Does anyone fancy starting a petition?
The funny thing is, when the SNP lost by 55/45 – a fairly similar result – it was declared to be “the settled will of the people”, and the only chance of a generation (unless there was a significant constitutional shift, which I think is fair enough). And that was despite “Better Together” lying about Devo Max in the dying days of the referendum.
Yet now the general consensus in the media and MPs is that this referendum is somehow invalid?!?
So it’s a case of one rule for you, and another rule for me.
So… let’s have a petition and go for say 4m signatures to have quisling Cameron held to his promise – or ask parliament to repeal the European Communities Act.
I understand what you’re saying but I feel that we are not in a position to invoke article 50 – to do so without a clear idea of what we are negotiating for could well be a disaster.
As we are, the entire Leave camp is in a shambles, and we have no idea whatsoever of how we are going to leave the EU. Sadly, I think staying in would be better than a botched exit – we could easily end up with some ‘associate status’ where we get the worst of all worlds … following the laws, not in single market, paying to access it … you get the idea. The danger of this if we have an incompetent negotiator or an incoherent plan is very real.
Untangling 45 years of integration is not going to be easy. If we make a mess of it then – not only would some of the warnings issued by the Remainiacs come true – but the UK would be a laughing stock around the world!
We want to make our departure an ordered and beneficial affair, not least so other countries in the EU can reclaim their independence too.
Using the ‘divorce’ analogy again, ‘just leaving’ is the equivalent of moving out overnight, making no arrangements for seeing the kids/sharing the car/taking a set of keys/having no money and nowhere to live etc etc
Reclaiming some of our sense of national pride is too important to just belligerently ‘get out’ causing chaos. Honestly, I think we are going to have to ‘learn’ how to govern ourselves again 🙁
We should not fool ourselves into thinking it is going to be easy. But if we do it right, it will be worth it.
Good posts, Mike. Thanks.
Thanks Dover 🙂
Just spotted my mistake though: this actually is on the BBC, so I should have said “buried by the BBC”.
What they’ve done is to
(a) Minimise the impact by giving it the headline “UK resists pressure for swift Brexit” on the home page
(b) Mention Juncker’s comments but ignore the comments of the other three presidents
(c) Use inverted logic to claim that Angela Merkel supports a delay when she emphatically does not – this is such a breathtaking fiction it’s worthy of a new post all by itself!
“Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout, Latervia, Byegium. Only Remainia will stay.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36629109
Okay okay, credit where credit’s due.
I just saw a headline on the BBC’s home page: “#Brexit in five words”.
Hardly dared look – sure it would be stuffed with pro-Remainian comments, but was pleasantly surprised.
My personal favourite:
“Brexit could be followed by Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakout, Latervia, Byegium. Only Remainia will stay.”
What’s yours?
I suppose if Germany leaves it will be Gexit or Dexit!
BBC caught in outright lie, suggests Angela Merkel supports Brexit delay.
How’s this for an inverted piece of logic, BBC style, to support their agenda?
Mr Hammond insisted that “nothing is going to happen at the moment”.
[…]
Mr Hammond’s position was supported by German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s chief of staff, who said Britain’s politicians should take time to review the consequences of leaving the EU.
“Politicians in London should take the time to reconsider the consequences of the Brexit decision – but by that I emphatically do not mean Brexit itself,” Peter Altmaier told Reuters news agency.
So in fact Angela Merkel is not supporting Hammond’s position at all, and she “emphatically does not mean” that Brexit itself should be delayed.
A truly Pravda-esque inversion of the truth – well done BBC!
Britain’s Bullshitvik Corporation at its Finest ™
Footie finished so I just switched over to a rerun of ‘Have I Got News’.
It was (still is ‘cos I couldn’t watch any more) one of those ‘let’s have a go at UKIP, Farage and all those swivel eyed loonies.
Gosh how they laughed and laughed.
… And so did I.
Did the Left Leaning Daily Mirror comment that the next ISIS attack in Europe can be blamed on BREXIT?