MID WEEK OPEN THREAD…

Well, the BBC did all they could to spin Corbyn’s “straight-talking” speech, didn’t they? I note they casually dismissed the fact that a section of it was written years ago for Neil Kinnoch. I note they overlooked he read out directional advice from the autocue. Straight-talking? Anyway, here’s a mid week open thread and the last one of this month!

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  1. Lock13 says:

    I like the bloke on the sofa this morning doing the newspaper review talking about Heathrow. He wasn’t sure whether it was runway 5 or runway 6 that we were talking about what a plank

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  2. taffman says:

    The last I heard about this was that the Prime Minister and the Home Secretary had ‘got a grip’ on the problem ?…………………….

    http://news.sky.com/story/1563124/migrant-invasion-halts-channel-tunnel-trains
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34432386

    This has cost the country millions !

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    • seismicboy says:

      If I were Eurotunnel I would be looking to sue the British and French governments for allowing these criminal acts to go unpunished. The French could not organise a wine-tasting at a vineyard. It’s a political hot potato that no one seems capable of handing.

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    • Lock13 says:

      This is a couple of hundred . Does Dave not realise that when this becomes 10,000 he is really in the shit as the only way he will stop them is with force. What will he do then ? this is not the same as him saying oh ‘he’s such a naughty boy that Putin but I am a true statesman ‘

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  3. Up2snuff says:

    Seismic “I have long suspected the BBC of being // anti-establishment”

    Except when it’s them, of course. Remember the ‘Cohen Letter’?

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  4. Thoughtful says:

    This is absolutely hilarious.

    The Saudi puppet masters are not at all happy that Russia is involved in Syria, and that their creation ISIS might be utterly defeated, so the UK begins the attack:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34432440

    Russia has carried out “unguided” bombing in Syria that has led to the deaths of civilians, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has said.

    Only to find a few hours later that the wholly perfect Americans who never make a mistake, with the most technologically advanced weaponry costing a fortune have bombed a clinic killing 3 Afghan medics !

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34432471

    I wonder if now the UK will apologise to Russia over its hasty ill judged comments, or perhaps they will criticise the US? Not a chance! Michael Fallon has made himself look very silly over this, and I for one find that rather amusing !

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    • Angrymanupnorth says:

      Trust Fallon as far as you can spit a grand piano. He’s a hypocrite of the highest order. Slime.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      What about all the civilians the Saudis have bombed the s**t out of in Yemen?

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      • Lobster says:

        Were they the right or wrong sort of Muslim? I’ve lost track.

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        • Al Shubtill says:

          I wasn’t aware there was such a thing as a “right sort of Muslim”?

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          • ObiWan says:

            I think the cowards and utter hypocrites of the Western Europe political elite consider the House of Saud to be ‘the right kind’ of muslims, despite their barbaric practices (and being tacit supporters of Islamic State). Saudi medievalism is alive and well and currently executing its citizens in the most barbaric ways imaginable. It almost puts Islamic State to shame in the sheer depravity of its cruelty.

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    • Grant says:

      Thoughtful, I am sure that Obama will apologise.

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    • Geyza says:

      I think America bombing a hospital in Afghanistan has just removed any hint of moral authority to criticise the inaccuracy of Russian bombing, not that it will shut up the BBC and their totally different spin on Russian bombing of terrorists, to the American’s. How many wedding parties and other innocent civilians have American drones killed?

      Putin is doing what Obama should have been doing in Syria. Obama wants to use “tame” terrorists to overthrow Assad. What would happen next? ISIS would slaughter the lot of them, or they would surrender to ISIS. Had Cameron and Obama got their way, they would have handed all of Syria, including the chemical weapons, to ISIS right on Israel’s border. Thank God Putin got Assad to destroy them. Putin has made the west look utterly inept, deceitful and pro-terrorist in Syria.

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  5. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”In pictures: Inside the ‘Jungle'””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-34347099

    Another attempt by the BBC/Left to portray those Criminally Conspiring to enter the UK illegally from Calais as Victims.

    Had Frenchmen been encamped at the same location, there would be no rubbish and filth dumped in the open. There are ample refuse containers. They, the Victims have made it a Jungle, an open sewer, a total disgrace. A show of utter ingratitude and contempt by the Victims to their host country.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It’s an interesting series.

      The first image seems hardly designed to elicit empathy. Lobbing debris around the hovel in a 360 distribution may be impressive symmetry but does not suggest care.

      And our Pascal is a hoot. Whinging numpties.

      Then there are these ‘shops’, one is sure run more as food banks than profit centres, with one run by a bloke actually ejected from the UK, which takes some doing, but clearly confident of getting back with BBC help.

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  6. ray_f says:

    I’m sure it’s already been mentioned here but here goes.

    BBC are running a program called “Is Britain Racist?”, and runs a short clip promoting it.

    The woman with the loudspeaker states “Where there is Muslims, there is radicalization”

    OK that may be true, but what’s that got to do with racism.
    Muslims are black, white, indian, pakistan, german, chinese, french, italian, etc.
    IE, all races and all nations.

    She could easily have said “Where there is Catholics, there is child abuse”
    She could easily have said “Where there is Scientology, there is brainwashing”
    The BBC are trying to make a non-racist issue racist.
    So the question should be “Is the BBC racist?”.
    They are suggesting there is a difference between ethnic Muslims and white/European Muslims.
    So “Is the BBC racist?”. Evidently yes.
    Is Britain Racist? No.
    Is Britain anti-religious? is the real question they are asking dressed up as racism.
    The answer is yes, we are a secular country.
    They are insulting the native people of the UK, and using their money to do so.

    In the real world, action would be taken against the Bullying Biased Corporation.
    A good idea would be to turn it into a stock corporation like the post office. Get rid of the licence, and fund it through advertisement. Or just burn down this unholy monolith.

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    • Grant says:

      Is it the first of a series to include other countries, France , Russia, China, etc. ??? LOL !

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    • Geoff says:

      Like Cbeebies and CBBC, BBC3 is a ‘dangerous’ channel as it targets the young with allsorts of multicult inclusive and diverse propaganda.

      Aimed at the 16 -34 demographic to watch any program on it one feels completely alienated, their ‘newsreaders’ being the worst, putting the news over in almost a gangsta style dumbed down way, more so than a Newsround bulletin.

      It really is no wonder that today’s youngsters are so thick, zombified and indoctrinated.

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      • GCooper says:

        True. Yet while the presentation and style of R4 or R3 might be more urbane, it’s the same subversive cultural Marxist gospel that’s being preached. The tune and tempo may change but the lyrics are the same.

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        • Geoff says:

          Absolutely, although I’d like to think that the above audience is more intelligent and discerning enough to see through it, youngsters rarely do, Hilter knew that…

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          • Grant says:

            I think, parents, schools, politicians, the media etc have always tried to indoctrinate young people. Sometimes youngsters react against it and rebel , sometimes they go along with it and change their minds when they mature and sometimes never change their minds. But I am not too pessimistic. The BBC’s relentless abuse of children in this way may well backfire on the BBC.

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          • nogginator says:

            Just ask any Imam!

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    • Angrymanupnorth says:

      The BBC have a problem with making a program about racism. The institutional racism within the BBC is such that we end up with a program about racism, which reveals that the program maker does not even understand what ‘race’ is. Its beyond a joke.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Alas there’s no such thing as ‘racism’ – gets the Fascists going every time that one. Ask them to provide a definition if they believe there is, it’s an easy job to destroy every definition by example.
      The point is that there’s not supposed to be a definition, because if there was people would know what it was and be able to avoid breaking the rules. It is a bully word designed to bamboozle by having only the meaning that the bully using it wants it to mean at that particular time – although in identical circumstances it might not have the same meaning !

      The question the BBC is really asking is, are we all screaming lefties? When the answer comes back ‘no’ the inevitable bully word is used.

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      • chrisH says:

        Enoch Powell taught us well.
        He defined the difference between a racist and a racialist-so we don`t have to.
        I find myself quoting him, Maggie when in the company of the left…more room for debate than when you quote Jesus.
        They hate it-and, let it be said-they never have any argument, seeing as they`ve had years without the need to find reasons for their peurile tropes and cliches.
        Oh-and we`ll all know that you cannot be racist when it comes to Islam…it`s a religion, a political cause like fascism-but it is NOT a race.
        So you can say whatever you like about Muslims-it cannot be racist.
        End of.
        And even Dawkins said on Channel 4 News that Islamophobia is w non-word, a weasel accusation.
        Jon Snow continued to sniff his sandals though-but at least Dawkins dealt with THAT UN_stitch up of a “word”…does not exist-if anyone says it-make up your own word…Warmon tends to annoy them!

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    • ObiWan says:

      “…The woman with the loudspeaker states “Where there is Muslims, there is radicalization”

      OK that may be true, but what’s that got to do with racism?”

      Yes, I was thinking about this last night. I can’t honestly find anything ‘racist’ or even morally or politically incorrect with the woman’s words: it is simply a statement of fact. But I forget, we live in a time when inconvenient facts are instantly taken ‘offence’ at and turned (as if by magic!) into ‘racist’ slurs.

      As the Chinese would say: ‘we live in interesting times’. Or was that a racist thing to say..?

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  7. Grant says:

    Of course, by Britain, the BBC means “white British” or really, “White English” . No question of whether Pakistani British are racist. Everyday , I despise the BBC more and more. If that is possible.

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    • ray_f says:

      Yeah good point again. They are subversively making racist generalizations. A (black) presenter suggesting (?)Britain is racist against (Asian)Muslims. The viewer fills in the blank. Get this racist crap off the telly.

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    • Lobster says:

      But Grant, only white people can be racist – the sainted Jo Brand said so, therefore it must be true.

      I hope you manage to resist the temptation to punch your computer monitor screen.

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      • Grant says:

        Lobster, LOL ! Of course, I forgot. Silly me !

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        • jeh77 says:

          I think most people know what real racism is. “I am not giving you this job, because you’re black”. It does not take too much debate to figure that statement as racist if it was delivered by a White/Asian/Mexican etc employer at a job interview. Case closed.

          However our media, particularly the BBC want to make people believe that racism is anyone other than White people not getting the outcome they desire. Criminal ? Resist arrest ? Get shot as a result of failing to comply with numerous warnings ? Oh, Black ? Must be racism ! I think most of you will know what I am referring too. Yet how the BBC and other confused media outlets dined on that story. Just tell the FACTS ! A criminal was shot because they resisted arrest, assaulted a police officer and still continued to resist/attack. Story over with. Move on. By all means report the further criminality of looting/arson/assualt that occurred after the event, but please please please, stop trying to justify clearly criminal behaviour because of race. Oh, and whilst you are there, please balance out every story of white racism with examples from every other ethnic group, because they do exist, and by doing so, you might provide a more balanced view of real racism.

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  8. Leha says:

    Dateline London, USA Gun owner debate.

    Polly Toynbee – “speaking for the rest of the world……..”

    O really?

    twat.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Polly does tautology.

      The BBC speaks for the nation.

      She speaks on the BBC.

      She speaks for the rest of the world.

      Apparently.

      Can’t imagine what saw a representative of a struggling, niche ABC paper deemed by producers as ideal in such a role.

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  9. Al Shubtill says:

    Heard a gentleman of colour from Bristol on Any Answers, saying that Britain owed reparations to Jamaica for the slave trade; he also intimated how immigrants had re-built Britain after WW2 (WTF?).

    He neglected to point out Britain’s role in suppressing the slave trade in the 19th century, nor how the Islamic slave trade was both well organised and institutionalized in Africa long, long before Europeans appeared on the scene. He also omitted to mention that it was Africans who captured and sold their fellow blacks into bondage and also how slavery still exists in parts of the Islamic world today, e.g. Mauritania, Pakistan, K.S.A.

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    • Grant says:

      Al , well said ! Maybe the former slaving nations should offer to pay to repatriate all black West Indians to Africa. I am reminded of Mohammed Ali’s comments after his fight in Africa, when asked what he thought of Africa and replied ” Thank God my Grandaddy got on that ship ” !

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘….saying that Britain owed reparations to Jamaica’

      On the basis that this ‘gentleman of colour from Bristol’ no doubt describes himself as British, for NHS services, education of his children, all applicable benefits, etc – I wonder how much he would like to personally contribute toward such so-called reparations? Perhaps in the period prior to the next Corbyn government has the chance to institute this new Slave Tax (or alternatively the EU takes up the idea) he could simply put a few pounds of his own in an envelope and post it off marked “Reparation c/o Kingston Jamaica” – there’s really nothing stopping him.

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      • Grant says:

        Of course any reparations would be stolen by the Jamaican government so ordinary people would not benefit anyway.

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    • ObiWan says:

      “…He neglected to point out Britain’s role in suppressing the slave trade in the 19th century, nor how the Islamic slave trade was both well organised and institutionalized in Africa long, long before Europeans appeared on the scene.”

      Quite. It’s just another example of the uneducated spouting irresponsible and uninformed views on subjects they can’t be bothered to research for themselves. I’ve recently been reading several histories of the exploration of Africa through Victorian times. By turns fascinating, horrific and even humourous.

      One thing which comes through loud and clear is the sheer amount of Arab-on-African slavery still very much in evidence at that time (long after the abolition of the African slave trade in the British Empire in 1807). How many people know that David Livingstone, the famous Victorian explorer, was a lifelong opponent of what he saw as the barbarity of the East African Arab-on-African slave trade? He died ostensibly seeking the source of the Nile, but his whole career as an explorer was actually spent campaigning against the East African slave trade.

      But the way history is documented today – particularly by the BBC – has no time for the facts. Revisionism is all the rage, and doubtless men such as Livingstone – brave and principled in the face of overwhelming injustices – would be considered a hideously white patriarch in the service of the British Empire and therefore slandered. Such a shame, because within the history of men like him are so many other fascinating insights to what the world was really like at the time.

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    • ray_f says:

      Slavery in Africa and the Islamic world is still as popular today as it was long before the UK was even formed. Sex trade, forced labour, child slaves etc have always been huge industries. Some African/Islamic countries in the past even went to war with each other to create the prisoners necessary for slave trade. Empires were built on them. Look at the Ashanti empire which still existed in 1957, and was built on the slavery trade.

      It still continues in Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Benin, Togo,Nigeria, Angola, Gabon and Cameroon. Probably more. And we know it happens in Pakistan, because Pakistanis have been imprisoned for importing them into the UK.

      Slavery is abhorrent full stop. The UK realized this 200 years ago, if not well before.
      Chances are the involvement of the UK in the slavery trade is probably well below 1%. Slavery is not a racist issue.
      We owe nothing to nobody. We should not feel guilty about anything.

      Thinking about it, I have never seen a BBC documentary cover slavery. I would love to see how they would go about it.

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      • Grant says:

        ray_f, Don’t tempt the BBC on that one. I know exactly how they would go about it !

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        • RJ says:

          Only a few weeks ago there was a BBC documentary on the abolition of slavery in the British Empire. The main point, repeated again and again, was that the government compensated the slave owners – shock and horror from the presenter. We had frequent camera shots of the ledgers, filming outside the payment office and maps of where the owners lived. By the end it was very tedious.

          There wasn’t the slightest pretence of understanding the view at the time that the government had made ownership illegal and so the dispossessed owners should be recompensed by the government that had changed the law.

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          • Cranmer says:

            That’s the logical fallacy of ‘presentism’ – the viewing of the past through present-day values. Fairly common with the BBC in my experience. Similarly, you don’t hear much of the theory that one of the reasons the northern states of the USA opposed slavery was because it gave an unfair economic advantage to the south.

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            • Grant says:

              Cranmer, The North were very divided as to whether to abolish slavery at all and Lincoln was, to say the least, ambiguous , until his re-election. Inconvenient facts for Beeboids. However, the BBC don’t really do history any more than they do science.

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              • Nibor says:

                The Old South regarded the Northerners as brash , unsophisticated, money grabbing , leading a way of life they did not want to be part of .
                A bit like Polly Toynbee and the French/ EU today regard all of the USA .

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  10. Old Goat says:

    Denis Healey has snuffed it. No doubt the BBC will be in mourning.
    What a silly Billy. Goodnight, Denis.

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    • Grant says:

      A positively wicked man, perfect for the BBC.

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      • Grant says:

        Never forget that Healey was part of the Labour Government which supported the Genocide committed by Nigeria against the Biafrans. Evil people and they were never brought to account. May he rot in hell !

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        • chrisH says:

          Wall to wall Labour isn`t it?
          Even when some old irrelevance dies at 98…someone who probably was a Communist plant…the BBC continue to moan on-with the usual excuses for Sturgeon, Benn Jnr to show that they give a damn.
          Only tribal Labour oafs would reckon on his “loyalty” being a virtue-I call it lack of courage, ambition and an unwillingness to get the UK out of Scanlons ermine.
          Pompous waste of talent…but gather that he had a decent war record.
          But so did Heath-and the BBC sure as hell weren`t asking Tories about HIM at the time-much more re his futile resistance to Labour giants like Healey and Crosland(yawn!).
          If Last Word doesn`t devote twenty minutes of its airtime to bigging up Healey on Friday, then I`ll be banjaxed.
          Still-on the plus side-only Roy Hattersley to go from the worthless tossers that led us snivelling to the IMF in 1976…oh, and Shirley Williams please!

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          • Grant says:

            chrisH, Spot on !

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            • RJ says:

              “If Last Word doesn`t devote twenty minutes of its airtime to bigging up Healey on Friday, then I`ll be banjaxed.”

              Chris, they might give him the whole programme. After all they gave lots of air time last Friday to General Menendez, who commanded Argentine forces on the Falklands. They never seem to feature any of the British troops who recaptured the islands.

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              • Grant says:

                RJ, The BBC supported the Argies during the war , so they have to be consistent !

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    • JimS says:

      Denis Healey described himself as the best defence minister ever.

      He was the one that decided that we didn’t need aircraft carriers. Because of that, when we designed the Invincible class carriers, they were officially referred to as ‘through-deck cruisers’.

      Oh the games that civil servants have to play not to offend their political masters!

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      • Demon says:

        “Denis Healey described himself as the best defence minister ever.”

        And in that other world – the one which is the opposite of reality – he was also the best Chancellor ever until Gordon Brown came along.

        Healey was a really nasty piece of work – I would like to imagine (if I actually believed in it) that Old Nick is currently grabbing Healey by the pips and making them squeak.

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        • Grant says:

          JimS , Demon, Great stuff !

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Er, wouldn’t that be more like giving him a warm welcome and patting him on the head?

          Might be a bit jealous of the eyebrows, though . . .

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Former member of Communist Party. Founding member of Bilderbergers and on steering committee for nearly 30 years, by his own admission. What’s not to like?

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  11. nogginator says:

    Video: Australia
    Muslim was “dancing joyously,” screaming “Allahu akbar” as he murdered police official
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/video-australia-muslim-was-dancing-joyously-screaming-allahu-akbar-as-he-murdered-police-official
    Before we get the Al BBC version
    “Pat Gooley from the NSW Police Association said:
    “We are used to being under threat. What’s really concerning police is there’s no rhyme or reason to these current terror threats.” … No rhyme or reason? … Have you ever heard of jihad, Mr. Gooley? Evidently not.
    Other police officials, meanwhile, are busy making sure that Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad’s jihad murder doesn’t lead anyone to think there is anything amiss with the Muslim community.
    The murder “was doubly shocking because it was perpetrated by a 15-year-old boy and it underlines the importance of families, communities, leaders being very aware of whether young people are becoming radicalised,” said Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, complacently assuming that Muslim “families, communities, leaders” in Australia are against this “radicalization” … but where is the evidence of that? “

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    • Lobster says:

      Mr Gooley is talking bollocks by the look of it.

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    • nogginator says:

      BBC … its a boy!

      “Australian police say they believe a 15-year-old boy who killed a civilian police employee in Sydney had
      … links to terrorism.

      The teenage boy was killed by New South Wales police on Friday after he gunned down the worker at close range outside the state police headquarters.
      Police say the boy, who was of Iraqi-Kurdish heritage, probably acted alone.”
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-34431926

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      • RJ says:

        “Police say the boy, who was of Iraqi-Kurdish heritage, probably acted alone.”

        Nogginator, that’s an interesting idea from the police. The BBC keeps telling us that Australia has enacted sensible gun laws to disarm the civilian population. If the terrorist didn’t have help where did he get the gun? I don’t expect the BBC to look for the answer.

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        • Guest Who says:

          This ‘tell it often enough’ notion is an interesting one.

          Clearly no one outside of the political-media establishments are buying it, any more than when some hapless £200k official says lessons have been learned, but it was the cuts’ fault.

          Thing is, no one is ever pinned down and accountable, so it can be said, over and over, in hope that it might one day stick.

          All I know is that any person seeking elected office who has hitched themselves to such claims can kiss my vote goodbye.

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  12. nogginator says:

    BBC Any Answers … Must we hold our noses and deal with Assad to rid the world of ISIS?

    … or do we wait for Obama and the Saudi s to deliberately do nothing?

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    Anyone else noticed that when reporting the death of Denis Healey are referring to the crisis Labour caused which involved the IMF being called in to bail the UK out as a ‘recession’?

    They also said that he was appointed chancellor at the time of the IMF involvement this was a lie. Healey was appointed chancellor in early 1974 replacing Woy Jenkins and the IMF were called in some two years later in late 1976

    Not to speak ill of the dead, but it seems that the BBC primarily have the need to protect Labour from their own history of wrecking the economy nearly every time they have been in power.

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    • Grant says:

      Thoughtful, yes the BBC are re-writing history to do the bidding of their Labour political masters.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Cannot say if that re-writing of Healey’s history was a deliberate ‘whitewashing’ or just an error but I recall that when Ted Heath died, the BBC & various political contributors, painted a far too rosy picture of him & his administration that did not accord too fully with history book or memory. The dear old Beeb do seem to be piling them up at the moment.

        There are more errors today. Mark Coles, with his R4 Profile of Gina Rinehart, turns economics upside down and suggests when her new iron ore mine – the largest – starts exporting for the first time, world prices will go up. On the iPlayer TV website, they have knocked ten years off John Lennon’s age. There was another howler – an I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again moment – on one of the R4 News Bulletins. The right words but in an order that completely changed the meaning of the sentence.

        This sort of thing will always happen, especially in live broadcasting. Some of this work is scripted or prepared well in advance and could & should be checked thoroughly. I recall that twenty years or so ago, this sort of howler occurrence was a once a week event or so. Now, it seems to be not just daily but several items a day.

        The BBC is far better resourced now than 20 years ago. We should be getting a better service.

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        • Grant says:

          Up2snuff, Yes, but whether errors or deliberate falsification , it is very unprofessional and not worth anyone’s money.

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    • Guest Who says:

      With luck noted by the DCMS committee already seeming a little frustrated by the BBC struggling with the truth.

      Flat out rigging history to suit propaganda not the smartest play if seeking trust as the nation’s forced four billion pounds per annum guide on information and education.

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  14. nogginator says:

    Don t know when the Weekend Threads going to turn up soooo ….
    Strange how the BBCs “boy” in Blackburn, was supposedly coerced by Islamic adherents, his mind was turned, so that he encouraged mass murder, and no doubt would have committed it.
    This 15 year old had a wooden box with “Islamic State” carved on it in his bedroom, and yet his parents were “completely unaware” of his activities Maybe Camoron can, like Obama did with the “bombclockboy” invite him over for tea, seeing as “life” s only 5 years now
    isn t it.
    He wanted to behead soldiers, and see soldiers beheaded. That s typical Islamic, typical ISIS

    Yet in the US, another guy who committed mass murder, separated out the Christians and shot them in the head,
    Typical Islamic style mass murder, typical ISIS … was not.
    A cursory check on the net, about his myspace etc. This link contains most of relevance,
    … Then again … maybe he s just a beyond angry Atheist, a steaming Secularist, a bombing Buddhist, or a quaking with rage Quaker
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/non-religious-oregon-gunman-targeted-christians-had-muslim-friend-who-praised-the-brave-mujahideen-heroes

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  15. gb123 says:

    Dennis Healy best Chancellor ever. Who drove us to the IMF.
    Dennis Healey the best Defence Minister ever. Who took the Navy from 200 ships to ? I think it was <100 . Bye HMS Victorious. Removed the RAF's front line options using Buccaneers and Phantoms when Labour had the TSR2 in development.(I know it was HW who did the deed).
    Part of Labour who brought us, along with Unions, the winter of discontent and bin liners across Leicester Square.
    Wow. What a series of achievements. If the "right" wing of Labour can do this just imagine what the "left" can do.

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  16. Geoff says:

    Should we expect a whitewash on the Coventry bus ‘crash’ story?

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    • Geoff says:

      .

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    • Guest Who says:

      So far I have had a few ‘breaking’ emails, very carefully worded and essentially useless as it is clear they are erring on saying nothing controversial. But even factually it is dire. They first talked of unfortunate injuries; now it is sadly deaths. The key aspect is counselling is under way.

      Frankly they would have been better off saying nothing, per usual BBC ‘line to take’ delay, and at least start with accuracy. The BBC are unlikely to be a worthwhile first point of call for news of value.

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  17. Dover Sentry says:

    Does our Biased BBC Blog have any effect on the BBC?

    I ask, because I have made many posts here.

    If to no effect, then what? I don’t want to give up.

    ..

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    • Thoughtful says:

      That’s like asking if Conservative woman has any effect on the Labour party!

      We do it to collectively draw attention to the many egregious examples of bias, as no one person can listen to all the output, and to hopefully give some ammunition for those who do have the power to change things.

      Keep posting because you don’t know whose reading and what the effect of your post might have. The left aren;t just going to give up propagandising because of a blog site, it will take more than that.

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    • Dave S says:

      I doubt it .The BBC is beyond reform now. 50 years of a hive like mentality has all but ensured that it is on the other side to me and others in the culture war. So I do not regard this blog as aiming to reform the unreformable. It is perhaps a place where the genuine conservative can meet others and often learn much . If you regard it in that light then everything you will read or write has a purpose.
      We are at a critical stage in the battle for the West and every little helps. Morale is vital and if a single BBC or liberal is stung by something written here and on similar blogs then this helps.
      The MSM is all but subverted- look at the unanimity with which it is condemning Russia at the moment. As if the bombs of the West are somehow exempt from killing civilians.
      The liberal world is about to collide with the real one and there are going to be swift and unforeseeen changes.
      Forget the BBC. It will have no part in what is to come.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        BBC – left wing liberal
        Sky – major shareholder Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al Saud – wide open to Saudi Muslim proselyting.
        Mail – Viscount Rothermere – tax exile lover of money wide open to accepting more for the ‘right story
        Guardian – too stupid to even have any insight as to what’s going on.

        I told you weeks ago what would happen,with Russia what the reaction would be, and why it would happen. Now it is happening just as I said it would you appear surprised.
        How did I know all this? because I read what was going on behind the scenes because what I said was real and accurate.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Epic contributions like Enigma shortened the war. So did designs like the Mosquito. So did one person swapping a sign and sending a tank the wrong way on D-day.

      If you want to win you do more, not talk about giving up.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It would appear that one person can start something that has an impact…

      https://twitter.com/yair_rosenberg/status/650463557960634371

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      • Grant says:

        It is obvious which life the BBC values most. Maybe he killed 2 dogs. BBC really are scum.

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        • Guest Who says:

          It has been acknowledged as updated, but only after they were advised that their editorial integrity was running at usual standards.

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          • Grant says:

            Guest Who, Not only do we have to pay the TV tax, we have to do their job for them. They are totally unprofessional. None of these people could hold down any job in the real world.

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  18. Dover Sentry says:

    Thanks for the above observations.

    However:

    England as hosts to the Rugby World Cup have now been beaten by Australia and will take no further part.

    The BBC will now feed on the corpse.

    Rugby in their eyes is a white man’s game without women.

    My wife used to play rugby but prefers rugby being played by men as it’s faster and more entertaining. That’s what she said. Jo Brand may differ in her opinion as she prefers cake.

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    • Guest Who says:

      You may be right.

      Just had a breathless email telling me they have ‘crashed out’, the first time a host nation has done so at this juncture.

      As to Ms. Brand, as a one time fly half who never fully recovered from once being co-opted into being in the scrum, it is a matter of some relief she has no interest in the game.

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  19. Geoff says:

    Jeez, are there no ‘British’ Catholic or Protestant contestants in this years BBC Great “British’ Bake off?

    It would seem the moderators have been working overtime, now comments closed

    The Telegraph continuing its transition into the Guardian…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/great-british-bake-off/11909538/Bake-Off-Nadiya-the-hometown-heroine-making-young-British-Muslims-proud.html

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    • David Brims says:

      Thankfully ”news” paper circulations are in free fall due to the internet.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      ‘Non-steroidal type British’ she says. Hmmmm, seeing as how we’ve a history going back hundreds of years, I’m rather proud of being a ‘steroidal type’ example of Britishness, – white, female and pensioner !!

      I suppose she’ll be finding her way on to Saturday Kitchen, have a column in the Waitrose Magazine, and be pitching up on the sofa of various chat /magazine shows for the next 6 months. What next, specially created gowns with head coverings for Strictly ???? It makes me weep.

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    • Arthurp says:

      Presumably there are two Christians in the Bake Off “making young Christians Proud”.

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  20. BRISSLES says:

    Excellent piece in Amanda Platell’s column: quote

    “POOR FLORA WASN’T PC ENOUGH FOR BEEB
    When this series of TGBBO began, the BBC was proud it was the most inclusive multi cultural line up ever; now we’re down to the final three, its certainly a PC triumph. We are left with Muslim mum Nadiya Hussain, gay doctor Tamal Ray, and New Man Ian Cumming. Poor Flora Shedden never stood a chance. She was far too middle class – and was booted off this week after her chocolate carousel was deemed sub standard. Perhaps if she’d made a chocolate mosque, she’d have stood a better chance !”

    Oooh, this is some rebellion by columnists who are sticking their heads above the parapet. Chocolate Mosques indeed ! – now they are saying what everyone is thinking. Was Bary Merry and Haul Pollywood given a pre-arranged script before the series began methinks. Never before has their been such diverse contestants, and only one white face in the last 3 ????

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    • Guest Who says:

      Seems her nickname was Socks, but the BBC staff changed it to Cookie.

      In honour of her baking skills.

      Apparently.

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  21. ray_f says:

    For me, with this whole GBBO think there is a huge elephant in the room, and this goes for BBC Islamic output in general. I have mentioned this before, but the truth is Muslims do not watch UK mainstream media. They may only be following this story as it has become big in the MSM. You watch what you are brought up with and feel comfortable/are brainwashed with.

    From the Independent by Maajid Nawaz
    “They follow television channels and news from within their own communities, while spending less effort interacting with the wider culture, social affairs, life skills, and appreciating the laws of their own countries. ”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/why-the-survey-of-british-muslim-attitudes-is-so-profoundly-disconcerting-10070358.html

    That’s just how it is. Citizen Khan, agent provocateur, Is Britain Racist?, etc are not aimed at a Muslim audience. Enter a Muslim house, they will not be watching BBC3 or Channel 4. Or listening to radio 5. To be honest, why would they. And no amount of Muslim presenters and programs about Islam will alter that. I would want to watch Islamic programs created by Muslims.
    http://britishmuslim.tv/
    http://islamchannel.tv/
    http://www.mta.tv/
    British Muslim TV (Sky Channel 845) freeview 244 (via visionTV)

    Again its just the BIASED BRAINWASHING CORPORATION filling the gaps and plugging the holes in its narrative. Do we think all the migrants on their smartphones are catching up on Eastenders.

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    • nogginator says:

      Not only tv, though is it.
      In every sphere, every strata, of society, the cult is there, more Islam less of everything else … very dangerous times my friends

      Islam Islam, only Islam, nothing before, everything else is ignorance … destroy it all, conversion, subjugation … or death, everything else is a lie
      Do they want to watch “kafir” tv? … if they do see it would they believe it?
      … AND when there is nothing but Islam, but are you the “right” kind of Muslim? uh oh!
      … if your not, you re a heretic etc
      on and on it goes … Charles Manson, the Mooneys the Nazi s have nothing on this ideology.

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  22. Luton Reject says:

    “The World Cup’s Most Interesting Man?”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34415808

    So what makes Australian rugby player, David Pocock, interesting according to the BBC? Well it’s because he’s a fellow traveller of course. Apparently he’s an environmental activist and gay rights campaigner and this makes him “the Australian sporting hero it’s OK to like from the beginning” and “only the mean of spirit might mock his idealism”. He’s “ahead of the curve” claims writer Tom Fordyce as he throws any thoughts of impartiality aside. Fordyce is yet another breathtakingly arrogant pillock, full of imagined moral superiority, who abuses his position by pushing his own politics.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    At a time of tragedy, the BBC again turns to a man they appear to think can speak for a nation… Piers Morgan.

    Honestly, it could be going better.

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  24. The Lord says:

    Andrew Marr to Mark Rylance? ‘ Are you going to be sucked off in the world of Hollywood now?’ Snigger! Sorry for lowering the tone. (especially on a Sunday)

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  25. David Brims says:

    Have you seen the front cover of this weeks Radio Times ??? They’re rubbing our noses in it.

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    • The Lord says:

      I’m going out for a paper now, David. Something for me to look forward to. 😉

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  26. nogginator says:

    Sunday Morn Live BBC1
    Is Britain Racist? …
    Goes straight into conversation with a Muslim spokesman … Islam is an Ideology?
    BBC again isn t able to distinguish … fundamentally flawed argument.
    Darkus Howe is on …
    In black history month … does he recall this?
    consistent racism on blacks (or could be Jewish people) by … Muslims
    If he does … he might not mention it.

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    • taffman says:

      AlBeeb this morning “is Britain Racist ?”
      Well, there are a lot of people in Calais ‘dying’ to get in here.

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    • Grant says:

      Did they ask him if any Pakistanis, Arabs, Blacks, Russians, Chinese are racist ? The BBC pretty much seem to ignore Chinese, Sikhs, Indians etc. Is the BBC racist ?

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      • Cranmer says:

        Tensions between different ethnic groups in the UK rarely seem to be discussed by the BBC. The narrative usually seems to be that everyone non-white is on one side, and everyone white is on the other. Again, it’s the mindset of the 1960s which we see so often in the liberal media.

        It takes a black man to point this out – the late and much missed comedian Felix Dexter did a very funny routine where he played a Nigerian having a go at West Indians. ‘It is good to see you are behaving yourself and not making trouble for de authorities!’

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  27. AsISeeIt says:

    Andrew Marr, poor chap, visibly favours one hand – let’s wish him well.

    The BBC political show that he presents visibly favours the Left – let’s consign the BBC to the dustbin.

    There are three elements to this show. Firstly, the Sunday newspaper review.

    The idea that Matthew Parris combined with Helen Lewis of the Guardian/New Stateman in any way shape or form represent a cross-section of opinion in this country is risible. The cushy London liberal elite bubble talks to the London bubble inside the London cushy bubble broadcaster. The only surprise here is that Helen has to put down her Twitter for a moment.

    Next, the big interviews.

    A real Andy-pandy namby-pamby with Len McCluskey. The big bruiser hardly need break sweat. Frankly there’s little Red Andy really disagrees with. Sadly our Len will be the only political guest or commentator not an Oxbridge man (or anti-man in our Helen’s case?) this morning.

    Cameron gets more of a grilling with the BBC seemingly taking up the standard of tax credits. By the way, the BBC handily warns us – by way of telling us – there’s a demo due to be held in Manchester later today – be there or be square, you square eyes! Why don’t you turn off your tv set and go and do something less boring instead?

    On the subect of the EU where Cameron deserves a grilling Andy gives us more of a whimper than a bang.

    And so to culture – lest we forget there’s many a prong to this cultural marxism thing.

    So we meet today’s luvvie – Mark Rylance. Naturally Andy Marr tries to do the BBC trick of getting the actor or musician to say something quotable and leftwing. Andy temps our Mark to say something anti-Holywood but having spent so much time as the wily Cromwell he’s hardly going to say something daft that bites the hand that might feed.

    And I guess that’s exactly the reason why the BBC can never make a balanced political show.

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