I was just having a look at the BBC Scotland news portal and noticed that the decision by SNP leader Nichola Sturgeon to stay away from the Afghanistan Memorial service in St Paul’s yesterday does not merit a mention. Thank god for the Daily Mail then. Given the number of brave Scottish soldiers who made the supreme sacrifice in Afghanistan fighting the savages in the Taliban, it does seem to me to be newsworthy that the Scottish First Minister chose to snub them, But the BBC seems disinterested. All about priorities I guess, which is why this sort of story DOES merit BBC Scotland coverage…
“Rangers director Chris Graham resigns over Mohammed tweet…”
My Twitter timeline this morning is full of pictures of Ed Miliband, appearing to be asleep with head resting in his hand.
Not a good look!
Indeed. May they go to hell contrived.
Love how the BBC insists on using the phrase ‘the prophet Mohammed’, like we are all Muslims and there is only one prophet.
They should, in the interests of impartiality and balance, use the phrase ‘the Muslim prophet, Mohammed’.
How about ‘the so called prophet’? Al Beeba likes that terminology.
The highly controversial alleged prophet
Educational bit for the BBC
All prophets were Hebrews, and were sent by God to bring the people of Israel to righteousness. All of them were deeply reluctant.
Muhammed wsa not a Hebrew, did not call Israel to righteousness, and worse gloried in his position as a “prophet” to make anything he did, like having more then four wives, retrospectively sanctioned by allah.
Muhammed was a scam artist, a paedophile, mass murderer, and a highway bandit.
He swept across the remnants of the Persian and Byzantine empires, spreading terror wherever he went. (sorry BBC, when I say ‘terror’ I should stop being so judgemental and instead say ‘militancy’)
How about the Profit Mohammed seems to fit some of the activities he was heavily engaged in
Doesn’t Obama always preface “Mohammed” with “the prophet”, too?
All Muslims do.
Don’t forget the PBUH bit as well!
So does the BBC.
Personally I think they should say:
“The alleged prophet Mohammed”.
Personally I think they should say:
“The alleged prophet Mohammed”.
Or ‘so-called’…. or ‘self-styled’.
Still; he predicted that his faithful would cut the heads off the infidels, so maybe….
Because Scottish Nationalists like Muslims, can do no wrong in the eyes of the uber lefty cock suckers at the bBC ( bollocks Before Common sense )
Nicola Sturgeon is beneath contempt, and her attitude reflects the hard left approach that the SNP would take if the Labour Party sleep walked into a coalition with them. Such a result would not only herald a distint threat to our security, but would also herald the eventual breakup of the United Kingdom. In my youth I rather foolishly joined Plaid Cymru for a short time, but soon realised that it was a parochial, hard left party, which could only result in economic hardshipt to Wales if it was ever given total control over the levers of power in Cardiff. I do hope that wiser counsels prevail in the Labour Party, although I suspect that Mr. Ed will do anything to enter Downing Street, even if it means that he will become Salmon’s puppet. The people of England and Wales need to wake up to the danger before it is too late, even though that prospect does not worry the ghastly Pienaar and his cronies at the BBC.
She was at he memorial service for the massacred children of Dunblane you twat.
nope, she was at a COSLA conference listening to people drone on about local councils and talking about her kitchen.
Actually, she was at the COSLA meeting in the morning in Crieff, and then went to Dunblane just a few miles away.
You Brits should learn to look before you leap.
And you scots should learn to prioritise dear boy between a council meeting and afterwards a annual memorial to Dunblane [nice to put party politics before victims on such a sad day ? !] plus I note you don’t hold an annual memorial to the victims of the terrorist your SAP.s Sorry SNP let go ?
You really need to draw a line under your attitude towards the victims of a cold blooded murderer and your belief that the Libyan intelligence officer was ever the guilty party and not just a convenient patsy for the British government. Too many people on this thread are looking at narrow point scoring rather than showing some common humanity towards the victims of violence. Some people need to calm down. Show some respect please, you are drawing this website into the dirt.
I don’t see ANYONE on this site showing lack of sympathy to the victims of Dunblane – and their families.
But your point about doubts about the Libyan as the sole conviction is valid.
She was at an Snp function in Dunblane nothing to do with the massacre it lasted an hour, you can check on the snp website.
Nicola Sturgeon was attending the Dunblane massacre memorial service you absolute imbecile!
Nippy’s [press office and COSLA say she was at a COSLA meeting https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=426043104237985&set=p.426043104237985&type=1&theater
She went to a local authority conference and a service in Dunblane – irrelevant
It is a matter of her priorities and the messaging associated with her visits – the education minister would have been perfectly acceptable for the 19th Dunblane commemoration, it is sad but true that this was hardly a high profile international event attended by prime ministers and heads of state, but clearly she though it was more important. I know that she is a nationalist but she is the first minister of Scotland – and Scotland is part of the united kingdom, and Scottish troops died in Labours’ wars in the middle east. For the avoidance of doubt – the SNP lost the referendum. I find the petit nationalism of the SNP profoundly insulting.
The issue at point is that she decided to commemorate something ‘Scottish’ rather than something ‘British’. She also snubbed the Queen and the commonwealth and made an explicit statement about how she sees the military.
Fine, I’m sure her rabid and chippy constituents are delighted. She made a political decision and behaved just as I would expect a hard left tartan loon to.
BTW where did all the SNP apologists appear from – whose orders are they operating under?
No she wasn,t.
BBC Scotland has had a long history of sectarianism, disguised as news reports, aimed at Rangers and Rangers supporters. Simply another excuse to put the boot in
This tweet was made weeks ago, on the day of the Charlie Hebdo\Kosher butcher murders. No-one took offence then. Mr Graham took the director’s position this week, and this snowballed as a story overnight.
Regarding the Rangers director, I don’t see why he should have to:
a) Apologise for responding to Anjem Choudhary in that fashion;
b) Resign his directorship because of it.
Can anyone explain why he should feel obliged to do those things, especially in light of what the uber thin-skinned Choudhary tweeted?
Sickofitall wrote:
“Can anyone explain why he should feel obliged to do those things, especially in light of what the uber thin-skinned Choudhary tweeted?”
It’s all about Power, the power to control other people
What started as an admirable campaign has over time become corrupted by power. For years, the left have used political correctness in which to silence those they object to. After each successful outing they in turn became more powerful which allowed them to exert control over more people. This is why after any expression of faux outrage, people in power are so quick to apologise.
The irony here is that when the shoe is on the other foot, the left have no problem explaining that what they said is allowed under the freedom of speech and expression which explains the open hatred from the left at the death of Margret Thatcher (No protests, No sackings and no police investigation. ) The recent Islamophobia award to the murdered people at Chalie Hebdo (No protests, No sackings and no police investigation.) and why Choudhary is allowed to extol open hatred for Non-Muslims on the bBC
Even something as non-offensive as a Poppy is a target for the self-hating left at the bBC. Yet they will go to the ends of the earth in which to promote their so called Red Nose day, children in need and the rest in which to do exactly the same.
Yes Faux outrage is all the rage (Pardon the pun)
Quite right Pounce. I think what Mark Steyn said is relevant here, with regard to free speech –
“It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.”
It is contemptible that Sturgeon wont honour that freedom, among many others, which she has the benefit of and that have been fought for, won and preserved by members of the British Armed Forces, who originate from the all the nations of the U.K.
Well said, Mr Glodstone.
Pounce for PM. Gets my vote.
I would guess that Ms Sturgeon and her charming SNP chums will have worked out that most Scotttish soldiers, if not all, are in favour of the Union and therefore are not deserving of her/their time.
Maybe not her, but the “gallant” 45 certainly do, and that’s the votes they (and Labour) are chasing
When politicians are chasing votes, basic decency doesn’t come into it. They would be all over the funeral if one of them came home dead next week, but for now, they are an irrelevance
She was at a memorial service for the murdered children of Dunblane, and sent a former marine and Falklands veteran to represent her at Afghanistan service. She was where she should have been.
Nonsense. The St Paul’s memorial service was a one-off , Dunblane is an annual event..
She should have been at St Paul’s a a national party leader..
Both her Press Office and COSLA show her as being at a COSLA Conference. Councils are quitting COSLA and they have been punished by cuts in funding from the SG, so she made a political decision to be there. The memory of those children should not be abused in this way.
The Scots have made a huge, and I would be prepared to state disproportionate, contribution to the UK militarily; particularly with regards to the British Army. The British Army since the early 19th century has had many Scots in the SNCO/junior officer cadre which, as any senior army officer will tell you, is where the real work and fighting is done. The Afghan campaign is merely the latest conflict in this long and glorious history. That Sturgeon is prepared to snub a memorial to the ultimate sacrifice of her compatriots, for purely selfish political reasons, tells you all you need to know about her.
The BBC should be holding her to account, not condoning the actions of a traitor through deliberate silence.
I don’t like taking sides when it comes to our armed forces as to my mind they are all brave lads and lasses putting their lives on the line – but don’t you think this Scottish contribution is a tad overstated? The way some people bang on about it you’d think the English never turned up. Looking at the casualties and honours lists for Afghanistan you have to say the English contributions and sacrifices have been immense – and the same in any war you care to mention.
Having served 25 years in the military my intent was not to decry the contribution of others. Rather that Scotland has a military reputation second to none and that an elected representative has a duty to recognise this fact and represent their nation in any commemoration of their sacrifice. Any decent person would know this and set their politics to one side for a short time; no great sacrifice is it?
Agreed.
It used to be said that the British Empire involved the Scots and Irish as the foot soldiers, the English as traders – and the Welsh following on as missionaries and teachers.
Which may me why Indians speak English with a distinct Welsh lilt – and why Fiji is so keen on rugby and strains of Methodism ?
‘It used to be said….’
By whom?
Your comments are an offence to the tens of thousands of Englishmen who have fought and died or sustained life-changing injuries for Britain and preserved the democratic system it is your privelege to live in today. Stop peddling anti-English myths.
I was under the impression that recruitment in Scotland had declined disproportionately over several decades, regiments having had to make up the numbers from Fiji, South Africa, New Zealand and Uganda. I seem to be hearing fewer Scottish accents these days.
Scotland, IMO, is more likely to draw attention to its contribution than, say, the English regions, perhaps giving a distorted impression. At worst, the bragging can extremely irritating.
With Steve on this one. The Argylls and 45 in Arbroath are the ones I know best, hard men and great soldiers.
Sturgeon should change her name to Minnow.
She didn’t snub it – her representative was a former marine, and remembering 16 massacred children and their teacher is not selfish.
The liberal left would rather forget the reality of what actually took place in Paris. Completely innocent people died. At Charlie Hebdos and in the Kosher supermarket.
In the pantheon of sins “inappropriateness” always trumps savage murder. At least it does if you are a liberal.
AS regards Sturgeon .These people are hard left and as self righteous as they come.
My fear is that a government in which the SNP holds the upper hand will make a break up of the UK inevitable. Perhaps the SNP knows this and does not care.
The SNP cannot exert devolved powers in Scotland and dictate to England over matters which we have no say over in Scotland. It will provoke unrest and inevitably a constitutional crisis.
Perhaps the SNP knows this
Rest assured that it does. That is its aim. Miliband appears too stupid or arrogant to notice.
the pure pig headed ignorance of alex salmond and his cronies to boycott this event just shows how the far left get there reputation for being the most vile nasty people you could ever come across,but i think something else is at play here, i suspect salmond in his warped politacal stance on this war has worked it out by not supporting are armed forces it will might bring him and the snp more votes from the muslim block and his socalist english hating voters in the election come up in may.simple as that.
OMG you really do believe all the bile that the MSM ram into your head. For a start I think you will find that the SNP and any associates ARE NOT ANTI-ENGLISH but ANTI-WESTMINSTER. Are you saying that any English SNP member hates their family?
My daughter- a West Country girl- worked for the NHS in Glasgow.
No longer, She is back in the West. Yes she experienced hostilty purely because she was obviously English. Taking Scottish jobs! Mimicking her accent and just general nastiness.
Not the majority of course but enough.
Didn’t boycott – sent respected Falklands veteran and marine as representative. Other people’s children were also being remembered that day – 16 murdered children in Dunblane. She was right to be there.
No she wasn’t Cathy. She was entirely wrong. It was a politically calculated decision and the wrong one.
She was at a memorial service for the Dunblane massacre in which 16 small children were gunned down along with their teacher. She then attended the memorial service for the troops in Edinburgh. She can’t be in two places at once. Bad person according to all on this thread though.
If that’s true then fair enough, but then which senior SNP person was present at the St. Paul’s service?
Kieth Brown – former Royal Marine, SNP MSP, Cabinet Secretary for Infrastructure, Investment and Cities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Brown_%28politician%29 . I believe it was felt a Falklands vetteran would be appropriate.
i believe the first minister would have been appropriate, but still, those scottish soldiers died for britain, not the scottish national socialists.
maybe she should have send her crime minister to remember the victims of a crime
former Royal Marine ? ohh better hide him then before the BBC ‘s approved uman right lawyers trump up a charge ! oh wait left winger OK he is safe !
How many came up from London to Dumblane?
The Queen and Prime Minister the leader of the opposition and the Commonwealth high commissioners and foreign ambassadors had prior commitments and I seem to recall HM The Queen was in tears at Dunblane. She was there in a flash at the time. It was a national (as in the entire United Kingdom) calamity and resulted in national legislation very important and very high profile.
How many Scottish nationalists attended the commemorations of the 48th anniversary of the Aberfan disaster?
Note the scots nats are staying off the Lockerbie case?well their leadership did let the man convicted go in one of the most appallingly politically motivated back stabbings ever !
Nothing to do with the present argument about N Sturgeon but if you think that the man convicted of the downing of PA103 was the guilty party then I’m afraid you have a very limited understanding of the issues involved.
Yvonne wrote:
“She was at a memorial service for the Dunblane massacre in which 16 small children were gunned down along with their teacher. She then attended the memorial service for the troops in Edinburgh. She can’t be in two places at once. Bad person according to all on this thread though.”
Err no she wasn’t:
First Minister criticised for not attending commemoration service
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has been criticised for not attending a service in London to remember soldiers killed during the war in Afghanistan. The end of the 13-year conflict was marked by a ceremony of commemoration at St Paul’s Cathedral yesterday where the Queen, Prime Minister David Cameron, military chiefs and veterans gathered in tribute to those involved in the campaign.
The Scottish Government was represented at the event by Keith Brown, a former Royal Marine, and the Infrastructure, Investment and Cities Secretary who also has responsibility for veterans. “Ms Sturgeon was in Crieff, Perth and Kinross, on Friday where she gave a speech to the annual conference of local government body the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities (Cosla).
Here,s a program of the event:
As for attending that service in ,Edinburgh’s Canongate Kirk
Families of Scottish soldiers reacted angrily to Ms Sturgeon refusing to attend either the main London ceremony or the service in Edinburgh’s Canongate Kirk, which ran in parallel with the service in St Paul’s, claiming she was not invited.
Consider yourself ‘Pounced’
Pounce,
I am sure Yvonne will return to apologise for her errors and to thank you for enlightening her. Two ‘likes’ might need to be rescinded as well!
I will not be apologising for being correct.
You’ll have a link then?
Well Yvonne you had me fooled. (I’m one of the now 6 likes).
Well done Pounce for providing the real facts.
Yvonne – Apparently, you were not correct; there is no mention of Dunblane in the itinerary for her, so an apology is in order.
In the world of the left reality is what ever suits the prime directive. It has always been so and is why the left is so contemptible.
The end justifies the means.
Reality for the Left is in their heads – in whatever form it takes to suit their warped minds.
She was at a COSLA Conference! They tweeted her picture. She was the Keynote Speaker for goodness sake! Why do you spread propaganda?
Speaking of Scotland:
Humza Yousaf has called on a UKIP MEP to resign after the Scottish government minister was reportedly compared to a convicted terrorist.
In a newspaper interview, David Coburn is alleged to have said: “Humza Yousaf, or as I call him, Abu Hamza”.
Mr Yousaf told BBC Scotland the comment was “Islamophobic” and “among the worst racial slurs” he had ever received. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-31886415
Utter tosh. There is nothing racist or Islamphobic about this.
You could argue that it’s childish and immature to take the mickey out of someone’s name – although I’m sure we’ve all had nicknames for people we dislike – but racist/Islamphobic?!?
I love the way the BBC gleefully quotes the parties who lined up to express their sincere shock and horror at this outrage.
Seriously, some people need to get out more…
All you need to know about Humza Yousaf
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/09/18/humza-yousaf-the-radical-behind-alex-salmond/
http://jihadinscotland.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/muslim-agitator-humza-yousaf-appointed.html
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/muslim-msp-angry-about-skin-colour-airport-check.14523118
and his wife:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/political-news/new-smear-tactics-claim-against-snp.15656040
Note that it originated in the Daily Mail, which tells you where they sit. That said, David Coburn appears to be something of a loose canon for UKIP.
Yes David Coburn does seem to be a loose canon. He needs to focus on and stick to the issues. I hope he learns and adopts a more positive tone, like Evans, Woolfe, Carswell, Reckless, Nuttall, (James) and Farage. Coburn gets too personal with the opposition, which doesn’t come across well when you are a front man, an MEP.
Humza is another Common Purpose Mega-Ego automaton. I could picture him in the Labour Party or the LibDems (or even the Conservative Party if they were a force in Scotland) – but I guess he joined the ‘SNP club’ at freshers week and stuck with that. I just don’t feel the Scottish separatist passion is in the guy. It just comes over as synthetic and Scots will see that. He was on QT when it was in Scotland the other week. He tries to hide his vacuousness with a slick, trained tongue, but whilst empty barrels make most noise, they are still empty.
Nicola Sturgeon didn’t attend the war memorial service today in London, because she was in Dunblane for the 19th Anniversary of the Dunblane Massacre.
Yet, the British Mainstream-Media belittle and abuse her in today’s papers.
Truly disgusting.
This is from the National newspaper.
You said that above already. A link would be more persuasive than repetition.
Sturgeon should have been at the London commemoration as it is a one-off and sent a representative to the 19th anniversary of Dunblane (e.g. her education minister). Albeit the representative she sent to London was a good choice due to his experience but to be honest she should have been there too.
I was speaking to a Scottish friend yesterday, one who is pretty well-travelled and I would have assumed would be anti-SNP. I was surprised how strongly she supported the SNP but, listening closely, the main reason seemed to be a burning contempt for Call Me Dave and the Westminster elite. I suspect the TV pundits are right when they say the SNP surge is the Scottish version of the UKIP surge.
(Can’t stand Sturgeon, myself.)
This may well be so. If it is it means that long term the Union is finished.
Scotland has adopted a socialist mind set and this is at variance with the growing conservative attitudes in England.
We will leave it to historians to work out why.
I suspect the Scots blame the English majority for the loss of their industrial base once so large and dominant.
The oil is a part replacement but not the same as it is finite.
England lost it’s industrial base as well but just got on with creating a new economy. This does not seem to have happened in Scotland and is a puzzle. Blaming Westminster is an easy answer but unconvincing.
Hence the loathing of Mtrs Thatcher and successive Tory governments.
The referendum should have produced the result the SNP wanted and then we all could have made a fresh start and Scotland would be no longer resentful and a future problem for us all.
Scotland’s industrial base was never well founded. Carron Ironworks was opened near the source of raw materials, (like Ironbridge, in England), but was not well placed for importing ore or exporting large parts as resources dried up and the technology developed. Similarly shipbuilding on the Clyde was fine in the 19th century but the river is too narrow for building modern ships and it struggled with that handicap back in the 1930s.
In the in the first decade of the 20th century it was realised that the UK had no need for a steel maker in Scotland AND Wales, but which one to close? A political nightmare until the ‘market’ finally did the job by virtually closing both. The lesson wasn’t learned with car making either. Midland car makers were forced to ‘spread the wealth’ by opening satellite plants in Scotland and Wales while the Americans had been building mega integrated plants since the 1920s and the Japanese followed suit in the 1950s. The ‘generosity’ from Westminster killed the golden goose in Scotland, Wales AND The Midlands!
In the 1960s we had Wilson’s white hot technology and the expansion of the electronics industry in Scotland. Lots of Westminster subsidy money for American ‘hi-tech’ jobs. Except these were white hat jobs for women pushing buttons on machines, the technology was in the processes not in the workforce. So every few years, when the next generation of integrated circuit needed a new production plant the American looked for another subsidy from anywhere in the world. The plant in Scotland closed, leaving a workforce of unemployed women who knew how to wear white hats and press buttons on obsolete machines.
But Scotland is sitting on oil? Well it isn’t, the oil is below the seas and the technology and workers can come from anywhere in the world and similarly up sticks as new or more economic sub-sea oil is found. Well at least the oil is ‘local’, it can be used as feedstock for a Scottish chemical industry can’t it? Not if the Green Socialists believe in taxing ‘carbon’ and raising energy prices it can’t.
What with no organic Scottish industry since the 18th century and political incompetence in Westminster AND Scotland ever since I wouldn’t have much hope for an industrial revival in Scotland any day soon.
And then there were the unions….
Indeed, the fault of the unions in the decline of our industrial base is rarely discussed by the beeboids in any of their potted histories of the period 1950-1985. The unions thought that the plants, the companies, the work was there forever and the money tree could be shook with increasing regularity. The rise of a trained Far Eastern workforce who could take the work from out of their hands was never foreseen or understood until it was too late. The bbc is and was made of the same cloth. Expecting the money to keep coming in, a lack of serious opposition, that it is their given right to be irreplaceable and to be as destructive to the common good as they see fit. They also need to be consigned to the history books.
Something that did not come over well in Peston’s view on France on Friday. They are not far off where we were in the 80’s pre MT. The railways duty is to provide jobs not a service in the union’s view. I rarely manage a four or five day trip around France without my plans being affected by a little local difficulty.
The regional councils get a poor service from SNCF but tendering for the services is still 5 or 6 years away, when all hell will break loose if SNCF do not win. The animosity to the UK company EWS setting up in opposition to SNCF Fret a few years ago was strong, particularly to ex SNCF drivers, who retire fagged out at 55, who then started working for EWS. Now privatised freight is doing well and the Spanish practises beset SNCF struggling.
But M. Hollande’s government is toying with introducing a law to ensure uniform employment terms and conditions on all railway companies!
France is heading down the tubes trapped in the Euro and the unions will not realise it until too late and probably not even then, so expect fairly regular strife over there.
Been amazed how little aggravation there has been over privatising Royal Mail. I believe one or two principled employees refused the free shares!
I think you will find EWS was founded by Wisconsin Central a US company, then bought out by Canadian Pacific, who were then bought out by DB, the German state railway. At no stage were EWS ‘British’, I suspect this was part of as you say their dislike of EWS, a dislike of North American ideas. SNCF is truly going down the tubes, how much will be left after it all pans out is anyone’s guess.
That’s a good summary of industry in Scotland in the 60s and 70s. Mostly sucking on the teat.
‘Scotland has adopted a socialist mindset’
Scotland has always been hard left and will always be resentful.
PS – I’m Scottish.
Having no axe to grind either way, it appears to be a confused situation, some web sites claim she was at the 19th anniversary of Dunblane, but ‘The Scotsman ‘ says she was at a meeting in Crieff with ” a Scottish Government spokesman” apologising for her not being in Westminster. So either one of two things, either she went to the meeting in Crieff and went home OR she went to the meeting in Crieff and then made her way to Dunblane a distance of 19.2 miles according to Google. A third case could be made for first reports being of her official timetable which was changed on the day to going to Dunblane only. Being of a kind disposition, I would imagine that a cock up has been made and that she probably went to the meeting first and them quietly and without fuss made her way to the anniversary 30 minutes away, at least that’s what I would like to think. Until it’s shown which it was perhaps everyone should just draw breath and give her the benefit of the doubt, can we not make points over the deaths of the schoolteacher and children, thank you.
the fact is yvonne, the snp are a very nasty sectarian racist against the english party,they play on the politics of fear and try to divide people as proved when the snp far left lynch mob violent attacked nigel farage when he was in scotland and not to forget they tried and failed to break up the union with this failed referendum that cost us unionist taxpayers £10 million.
Failed? I think you’re getting ahead of yourself there. This has a long way to play yet.
Nippy’s [press office and COSLA say she was at a COSLA meeting https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=426043104237985&set=p.426043104237985&type=1&theater
Your ‘proof’ is nothing of the kind. You are showing a PRE EVENT timetable, your PROOF please that she did not either attend this and move on OR changed her timetable. I am getting rather sick of people using the dead children and their teacher for shallow point scoring.
Oddly enough, there is NO online citations, or mentions of a memorial service being held in Dunblane. I am starting to think that it’s time someone offered proof, else I will have to go with my gut, and the facts. That is, SNP have for a long time screamed about it being an ‘illegal war’ and she decided to shun it to make a poor point….
Onlyitsnotme, Can you give me and everyone else a cast iron proof that their was NO service in Dunblane ? I would find it highly unlikely that their was not. If it was MY child killed I would be there every year until I died., your proof PLEASE. Just because their is no mention of it on line does not it did not happen. Strange as it might be to those here under 30, life does exist beyond the internet.
St Paul’s was a national – indeed a Commonwealth – ceremony, an one-off major event. She should have been there – but decided not to go. A cheap snub.
The ceremony and sad parents and families at Dunblane would have understood if the St Paul’s ceremony took precedence on this ONE occasion.
She could have sent Salmond to Dunblane , for example, to show proper SNP respect to the memory of Dunblane.
In all honesty I find the attempt by some people on this site to blacken this woman’s name because of her non attendance at Westminster pathetic. I am not Scottish, I hold no belief for the SNP, in fact I am against everything they stand for. However people trying to make capital out of the dead I find wrong. Remembering Dunblane is a just enough cause in my view for not attending, she had someone who attended for her party in London. Frankly that ought to be enough. I do not believe it makes this website good trying to make her look bad remembering one disaster to the detriment of the other. There are better arguments to fight her and her party, leave the families in both cases to greave in peace. If you want targets I suggest the sight of Blair and Brown being hypocrites is enough.
I think this is all symptomatic of the fact that we are not actually allowed to discuss matters of any real substance these days. You try to discuss Europe or immigration without being called racist. The BBC bears a lot of responsibility for that.
So instead the discussion becomes limited to personalities, perceived insults and faux outrage over petty matters. So while I might think it was a misjudgement by Nicola Sturgeon I can’t get too worked up about it. Others do, though, because they’re sick of the lefties working themselves into a fake lather over something the right have said. Take David Coburn’s childish admission of what he calls Humza Yousef. Hardly a hanging offence but because he’s UKIP he’s beyond the pale and unfit yada yada. If we were allowed to debate the real issues this sort of storm in a teacup might not happen.
You have to feel sorry for David Coburn. He has neither the face for TV nor the voice for radio.
I’ll get my coat.
Great grandfather – Boer War.
Both Grandfathers – 1st World War
Father – 2nd World War
She is a shit
In all honesty you’re going down the wrong road, save your anger for the men who caused the deaths, Blair for the war, Brown for not paying for the equipment. You have not seen the request to avoid swearing at others I take it ?
Anybody else notice that Blair like Brown are both Scottish . Both are left of centre and both have ruined the UK. It appears that NS Scotlandistans citizen Nbr 1 is just following in their foot steps. No wonder the bBC loves her.
For better or for worse, the England/Scotland split is news. Kelvin MacKenzie is stirring against ‘Jockestan’ in City AM:
Kelvin MacKenzie scorns the Conservatives in favour of a new party
Kelvin MacKenzie, looking for a ‘South of England Party’? What an ego.
The Sun, Hillsborough, 1989. His words are but noise to me now. I’ll say no more.
I’ve noticed lots of people posting regards how the first minister of Scotlandistan can only be a victim of the nasty people on this blog. The article is mainly about how the bBC hasn’t touched this story, just like it didn’t touch the Kriss Donald story, just like it promoted the angle that Muslims are worried about a backlash after the stupid attack on Glasgow airport.
So to all the people posting that the FM can only be a victim, prove us wrong, , I posted the facts from Scottish newspapers, , I can post even more facts from more Scottish newspapers.
As others I don’t give a shit regards NS , but as it stands you lot have a bee in your Nationalist bonnets about being told the truth and you are doing everything you can in which to say do as we say and not as we do.
It’s a pity but hardly surprising that Coburn issued an apology to Humza. He calls for probe- surely a probe into his links with Islamic extremism would be more appropriate than getting into a lather over childish name calling episode. The problem we have is backing down- a stand needs to be made against these haters of freedom by principled libertarians from all walks of life.