From the Mirror…ISIS’ grand plan….for now…note Spain, Greece and the Blakans are to be Islamised…as the Mirror states….’All of Europe is vulnerable’ to attack.
Rome will be conquered next, says leader of ‘Islamic State’
“So raise your ambitions, O soldiers of the Islamic State! For your brothers all over the world are waiting for your rescue, and are anticipating your brigades,” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self-proclaimed caliph said.
Der Spiegel has been reporting on the anti-Islamisation marches in Germany for some time…..the BBC has just caught up, presumably after having several meetings to decide the line to take on this issue…their conclusion….malign the Marchers as neo-Nazis and ignore the issues they raise…namely the dangers inherent in the Islamisation of Europe……
David Goodhart thinks it is an issue of great importance for the survival of democratic, liberal societies:
Since the arrival of immigrant groups from non-liberal or illiberal cultures it has become clear that to remain liberal the state may have to prescribe a clearer hierarchy of values.
…..The gulf between conservative Islam and secular liberal Britain is larger than with any comparable large group….for those of us who value an open, liberal society it is time to explain why it is superior to the alternatives.
Some claim that if people understood Islam more everything would be fine, they would be more tolerant, I think quite the contrary….the more they understand about it the more alien they would find it…authoritarian, collectivist, patriarchal, misogynist…..all sorts of things that Britain might have been 100 years ago but isn’t now.
The Today programme (08:48) did exactly that, preferring not to investigate whether the marchers had a genuine point to make but instead dismissing them as racist, far right extremists or as people who were scapegoating Muslims as the cause of their own problems…they weren’t really concerned about the Islamisation of Europe as they claimed the BBC has decided…therefore no need to explore the issues….
However even the Guardian doesn’t dismiss the possibility:
What would happen if Islam manages to convert Europe? An improbable turn of events but not completely inconceivable.
The BBC’s Damien McGuinness starts with the Marcher’s main issue…They say the West is becoming Islamised…but then quickly moves on to labelling them extremists or malcontents and social misfits…..’because this can be seen as an anti foreigner agenda there’s a lot of right wing extremists in the crowds…but what’s interesting is that it’s not really just about immigration…its being used as a galvanising force or even a scapegoat for all sorts of grievances…for example there’s a lot of pensioners and low paid workers, those struggling to make ends meet and others let down by society…blaming the politicians, blaming the media…coming together on the issue of immigration to express that dissatisfaction with their lot.’
He goes on to tell us that German businessmen want immigration….telling us they say
‘we need migrants…there are not enough workers’…and the business leaders are very worried that these protests will make Germany less attractive….politically it’s a huge issue…politicians say the marchers are racist and divisive, others say they should not brand them as neo nazi extremists but must show listening to ordinary voters.…. the government though must help and protect refugees….and condemn anything xenophobic
How many words associated with the Far Right, Nazis, or extremism can Damien McGuinness fit into one small report? Quite a few it seems…an unsubtle attempt to smear by association...’They shouldn’t be labelled neo-nazis…..but really they are’….being the subtext to his report.
As for German businessmen they don’t have a successful track record in backing people with a very different and controversial ideology to work for their interests……..ironically this is from the BBC’s own ‘The Nazis, A Warning From History’.…the businessmen thought the Fascists could help ressurrect Germany……
Hitler helped into power….
For the good of Germany Hitler must have the Chancellorship said businessmen.
Hitler would be tamed and reined in by the German Parliament.
Hitler was helped into power by the support and miscalculation of others.
‘Madness total madness…we thought we could control him.’ remembered one politician.
The BBC should be making it a priority to investigate the issues such as to whether importing large numbers of people who have no interest in integrating and provide the ‘sea in which the extremist fish can swim and hide’ is a policy that will result in conflict…not just political, social and cultural but actual violence…..as it already does…but how much worse can it get?
From Nicky Campbell’s good mate….
Interesting comment from McGuinness in 2005 after the 7/7 bombings in an article in which he predicts mass attacks on Muslims and here gives away his prejudices about anyone who doesn’t agree with him on Islam…..
British tabloids were likewise full of speculation that the perpetrators of the attacks could have come from Islamist circles in London itself. The clear suggestion from the country’s lower-brow media was that the authorities should finally increase their vigilance of the city’s Muslim population.
Sikhs and Hindus accuse BBC of pro-Muslim bias
“People in our communities are shocked,” he said. “We are licence-fee payers and we want to know why this has happened. The bias towards Islam at the expense of Hindus and particularly Sikhs is overwhelming and appears to be a part of BBC policy.”
Senior BBC journalist condemns BBC’s pro-Muslim, anti-Christian bias
Peter Sissons, one the UK’s most senior and respected broadcasters, has condemned the institutionalised anti-Christian bias of the BBC …..he writes that in the BBC’s “pervading culture” of anti-Christianity, “Islam must not be offended at any price, although Christians are fair game because they do nothing about it if they are offended.”
BBC Internal Memo Admits Anti-Christian Bias
The British Broadcasting Corporation has admitted to a marked bias against Christianity and a strong inclination to pro-Muslim reporting among the network’s executives and key anchors, in a leaked account of an “impartiality summit.”
a scapegoat for all sorts of grievances…for example there’s a lot of pensioners and low paid workers, those struggling to make ends meet and others let down by society
This is of course deceitful dangerous and patronising, as suggests that people whom BBC have classified as being in these categories are unable to hold a view outside of what the BBC thinks they would only and naturally protest about.
The BBC is without doubt an organisation which attempts to subvert our values.
How much support do Christians receive from the state media in Muslim countries?
How much support would they get from the state media if these Christians bombed their trains killing scores and plotted to repeat? And hacked a soldier to death in the street?
How much support would these Christians get if they demonstrated en masse in the street threatening to behead the police?
Need I go on….??
If we need immigrants why not open the doors to a few thousand Christians from South American countries. For those on the left and the BBC who pay close attention to the colour of skin we can acknowledge that most of them have skin that is several shades darker than white skin. Their presence in vibrant communities like Bradford, Rochdale and Tower Hamlets would create genuine diversity in areas where only one culture exists among the Somalians and people of Pakistan heritage. I am suggeting that the European concern for Islam is indicative of a racist attitude towards people of former colonies in S America.
How true, we could start with the Welsh who moved to Patagonia in the 19C, welsh speaking good, but white skin bad, by playing the minority card can be allowed in. Move on to those from Belize and the former British Guiana, both very mixed, lots of brown skin, good, speak mainly pidgin English very good, pass then straight through. Moving on to Southern Africa lots of minorities in South Africa and Zimbabwe, mostly white skin, not good, speak very good English, not good either, have good work ethic, hmmm, not looking good, but could be seen as genuine refugees who are genuinely in fear of their lives from the new masters, possibility of this being a trump card ? Might be a odd moment for those at Dover to deal with genuine refugees not system players.
Heard Justin Welby for a while on Desert Island Discs.
Clearly a nice man, and would have been a good enough Treasurer or Parish Secretary, even up to diocesan level.
But no Archbishop-he`d only been a bishop for six months, by his own admission.
There ARE scriptural warnings about allowing such striplings to do the jobs of those who have ran away from leadership roles…but I doubt the Old Testament is being taught anywhere near Durham Theology College and such places as Justin would have gone.
His interviewer, Kirsty Young, was able to associate any faith with Peshawar and the massacre there-and Justin wasn`t going to mention Islam as THAT cause…that would be an ecumenical matter after all.
Pathetic-is there ANY British-born apologist for Christianity still alive here in the UK?…or do we have to let the country go to Islam and fight by other means?
In 1900 20% of the population in the ME was Christian. It is now 4% and falling.
The aim of Isis and the rest is to make the ME Christian free. Only Israel is providing a haven for Christians and other minorities that can be considered safe . And what do the dumb and vicious western liberals want? To so weaken and deligitimize Israel that it is effectively destroyed.
The sickness in the Western liberal classes is beyond curing. Time to change things and change things soon.
what gets me is that the heirs to hitler and the gestapo isis and there paedophiles brothers are getting away with it,this nazi outfit with its campaign of mass murder and mass rape of defenceless children and there mothers go about there genocide with impunity while the cowards of the west bury there heads under the sand and turn a blind eye,hitler must be rolling about in his grave screaming why did not recuit isis into the ss and the gestapo when i was hunkering down in my bunker,winston churchiil woulkd be turning in his grave now if he seen what a bunch of cowards we have as leaders in the west who are caving into to the present nazis who are have called isis who are just another form of nazism who go under the banner of islam.
ISIS are really hunky men.
The Guardian writer examines the after-effects of Islam taking over Europe from a benign point of view. However, when engaging in a thought experiment on social engineering, one has to look at worst case scenarios, not benign eventualities.
Has anyone thought of a German Islam headed by an Islamist Hitler, or a Stalin Islam . Or to scare the pants of the BBC , an Islamist al Thatcher.
Both of these would be far worse, if one can imagine it, then the original secular Hitler or Stalin.
Islam already had Genghis Khan, Tamerlane the Great, a string of depraved Ottoman Sultans, and most recently, Ayatollah Khomeini.