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Seems those tinkers in Gaza have been letting off fireworks again, or not, as the astounding uncuriosity, watertight oversight, corroborative checking, anything goes jumble that is BBc editorial professional integrity flaps about like a beached halibut…
http://bbcwatch.org/2014/08/20/hamas-denies-firing-missiles-bbc-reports-hamas-claims-missile-fire-bbc-silent/
Funny yes, in a perverse tragi-comic kind of way, but also deeply disturbing, not least because it is so commonplace no one seems to notice or care much. Other than those at the sharp end of deadly attacks, and ultimately deadlier BBC propaganda.
One has to wonder how many amended versions can be created by the BBC before they realise they have buffed the most rank turd to a sparkly shine that fools no one with a nose for deceit.
So I’m catching up on the news and I read up on the state of affairs regards Gaza/Israel
Gaza conflict: Israel ‘targets Hamas leader Deif’
Hamas says the wife and child of its military commander, Mohammed Deif, have been killed in an Israeli air strike on the Gaza Strip.At least 19 Palestinians have died since hostilities resumed on Tuesday, with both sides blaming each other for the collapse of the Cairo peace talks.
with both sides blaming each other for the collapse of the Cairo peace talks.
Really???
Nothing about terrorists inside Gaza lobbing 40 missiles into Israel hours before the end of the ceasefire.
The bBC, the whitewasher of Islamic terrorism.
I,ve just sent the PM programme an email asking them to try to find a British muslim to condemn the american journalists execution and so many thousands of christians instead of blaming us for whats happening.
I dont hold out much hope
With the BBC knowing that hundreds of Imams have spoken against ISIS it shouldn’t be hard for them to find a critic. Especially as ISIS has murdered thousands of other Muslims also.
Perhaps the question is not whom does the BBC consider to be Muslim but whom does IS consider to be Muslim?
Well it won’t be your average BBC journalist, will it?
First they came for the…etc.
Beeboids won’t be last in the queue.
Good luck with that. There’s more chance of finding Lord Lucan than there is of finding a ‘British’ muslim willing to condemn the barbaric murder of an American journalist. Even Warsi has remained silent. I guess there’s nothing in it for her.
I was going beg excuse for an OT, but it is really not, being about the oversight systems of an all powerful (and after death, taxes rank second) public sector entity.
http://www.freelanceuk.com/news/4587.shtml
What’s not so shocking is the level of foul-ups, but it is interesting what differences there exist between HMRC and the BBC.
For a start, there’s an actually independent adjudicator.
And, surprise, when complaints are not run through an internal secret old boys ‘ girls’ club they get up held more often than not. Try 90%.
Amazingly, the BBC manages near enough the exact reverse, Though I think they may on occasion claim 110% immunity from any complaint having value.
Lord Jong Un must be tickled pink.
The BBC misrepresenting Churchills views on Europe by John Redwood
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5173/misrepresenting_churchill_s_views_on_europe_on_the_bbc
The BBC’s Frank Gardner on the Foley murder:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28867627
‘…These grisly murder videos are abhorrent to most Muslims and non-Muslims alike and they’ve even been discouraged by Osama Bin Ladin’s successor as a “vote loser”.’
But do they find such videos ‘abhorrent’, Frank? How would you know what ‘most muslims’ really think of them? How many resident Mid East muslims do you have round to your gaff in trendy North London? Can you prove that ‘most muslims’ (bearing in mind there are over 2 billion of them in the world) actually find the slaughter of white middle class Americans ‘abhorrent’?
The BBC – pontificating nonsense and misdirection, as usual.
If AQ discourage such videos it has nothing to do with thinking them ‘abhorrent’. This videoing of such murders started in Chechnya.
Yes, indeed, most Muslims abhor terrorism and love Infidels, which is why when Frankie got shot up he shouted ‘Help me, I’m a Methodist’….
I am remembering that correctly, right?
Good old Frank ‘don’t shoot I’m a Muslim’ Gardner loves Arabs, he prostrates himself before them in some sick sycophantic ritual. You should see him on one of his PR walkabouts in the Middle East
Yet they crippled him???!!!!
Yet they crippled him???!!!!
Now, now Robert, we have to follow bBC guidelines here. Just as we can’t use the loaded term ‘terrorist’ neither can you use the term ‘cripple’
The correct (And political correct) term to describe somebody who doesn’t have the use of his legs due to a bBC work related incident involving a machine gun and lots of bullets is:
Physically impaired or should that be, psychologically impaired?
Thank you Pounce, i’ll give myself 100 lines….’ got to start to talk proper’.
A vote loser? Is that it? Not barbaric, not murder, not terrorism, just a bit of bad PR?
Since when did Al Qaeda stand for election? What an idiot that Frank Gardner bloke is!
I love how nothing is done until a journalist is targeted. However we all know BBC journalists have nothing to fear from Islamic Terrorists or Militants as they like to call them
Foley might well have worked for the BBC; he had their views but they cut off his head anyway
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/james-foley-went-looking-to-support-terrorists-in-syria-instead-they-cut-off-his-head/
I think the BBC call Hamas and ISIS their allies don’t they?
I have to laugh, for years this blog has been pointing out the bBC bias towards global warming/Climate change (CC) etc..anything and everything is linked to CC and at the start of the year we had the flooding of the Somerset plains, which while largely blamed at a certain Mr Pickles by the left. The bBC as always pointed at climate change as the culprit.
Well knock me down, bugger me sideways and call me ‘Rodger the cabin boy’. The bBC has now come out with this:
Growth drives UK flooding problems
“Part of the UK’s problem with flooding is self-imposed, new research suggests. The study says the number of reported major flood events has increased, but in parallel with population growth and a boom in building in vulnerable areas.”
Hang on isn’t that what so many people here have been saying for ages. Yet to the bBC and their ilk we are all lying bastards who actually should be sacked
So where do we go from here? and when does the bBC remove the above article and return to calling me a fatherless person who likes to sleep on his back a lot.
‘ISIS is waging war on the West and we will oppose it with every breath in our body.’ -Hammond.
I wonder for how many that statement about opposition of the British people is true?
How true is it of Beeboids?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729594/Brutal-Islamic-State-terrorist-beheaded-US-journalist-WAS-British-Foreign-Secretary-Philip-Hammond-reveals.html#ixzz3Ax5nYJS5
I wont be sending my sons that’s for certain. Not whilst traitors and supporters of terrorists remain in government, education and the media. Also I wouldn’t send my sons until this government admitted ISIS/IS is to do with Islam and that Islam does promote and condone the killing of innocents
Agree entirely. I would not support sending our soldiers who would have rules of engagement designed to win the hearts and minds of ISIS psychos and be under instructions to show respect to Islam, with the media scrutinizing their every move for evidence of a war crime, and fat bastard human rights lawyers ready to pick our troops to pieces. Meanwhile back home, Cameron and May eager to placate home grown Jihadists, would initiate prosecutions against those who used strong language against the enemy and its ideology.
The best use of our troops would be at Dover, Heathrow etc to intercept and deport the terrorists who try to come here, including those who call themselves ‘British’.
Hammond should accuse the BBC of being a ‘terrorist organisation’ sponsoring media terrorism and publicity. (Reported in 2007 but I am sure there are plenty more like this)…
‘The BBC funded a paintballing trip for men later accused of Islamic terrorism and didn’t pass on information about the 21/7 bombers to police, a court heard yesterday.’
‘http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499795/BBC-funded-paintballing-trip-Islamic-terrorists-didnt-pass-information-21-7-bombers.html’
BBC TV Licensing says: “Our letters aren’t threatening”
Speaking in a live interview with the BBC’s Stephen Nolan, TV Licensing PR man twice denied their letters were threatening.
Furthermore, he suggests ‘if you don’t tell us that you don’t need a TV licence – not that you’re legally obliged to – then you’ve only got yourself to blame if we keep threatening you!’
More here: http://tv-licensing.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/tv-licensing-our-letters-arent.html
Quite a few years ago now we bought a TV Licence from a local Post Office and for some reason, never revealed, they did not forward on the money. We did have a licence from this Post Office duly stamped. Later we had a letter from the Licensing Authority telling us that we were not licenced. I wrote back and said we were. The letter we got demanding proof that we had a licence was unbelievably rude. They obviously did not believe us. We, as requested, sent off a photo copy and were promised a refund of costs and postage, which of course never arrived.
You’re dealing with Capita, a private security company. A few years ago, while in my local Co-op in the dark evening, i parked next to a detector van…..got my stuff, as i came out, the driver of the det van was getting in, with a large bottle of brandy……he left first…when i got home, i noticed a van parked in the gloom up my shared drive…..went up to it, it was the det van! I do not have a tv, so he was obviously checking on me!…..It was occupied all right, i could here coughing and belching…..i wish i’d challenged him now, but he must have twigged, drove off at speed…..couldn’t get his number, or else the police would have been called. Reckon he was drinking in there, i could smell brandy when near the van….tut tut…BBC, nazis.
Anyone seen that most hideous tv licence ad , only an info one, on al bbc channels , but right out of Danny Boyo`s Olympic`s Opening Bash. It comes straight out of Bbc drama`s P.C. casting handbook. White woman with black man on sofa ,then quick edits to huge amounts of half cast kids ,watching tv in various pose`s ,all ending with Christmas knees up , more blacks ,maybe an extra white in view, no Black Pete`s to be seen however. In a nutshell f..king awful .
18:00 news still running the Illegal migrants in the container story as “migrants”(no use of the word illegal), although they do add that a man has been charged with aiding ILLEGAL entry. I’ve now complained and asked why the word Illegal is not being used in the context of this story.
Thanks Dave666. I’m just reading another BLOG on the irritating Liberal BBC usage of ‘Political correctness’ to hide the blindingly obvious facts on the failures of Europe’s multiculturalism woes are hidden away…. or not reported at all…in case of ‘offense’ the invading army…
”Political correctness stifles everyone and enables this cultural destruction. It has roots that trace back to the Marxists of the Frankfurt School and is now entrenched in the mainstream and governs how we act and the language we speak.
All our values that we have fought for have been swapped around: Weakness=Strength; Division=Diversity; Deviant=Enriched; Patriotism=EU federal super state, etc. Almost everything that was positive before multiculturalism is now a negative; we are told to worship the demise of our own culture, religion and identity, by embracing other cultures instead’.
http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/08/26/liberalism-britains-descent-multicultural-abyss/‘
so after george galloways interview under caution with the police yesterday the cps are deciding whether to bring charges of incitement of racial hatred against george galloway concerning his hate speech in leeds last satarday,we will wait and see what happens there,but galloway been bitching on his twitter feed today about the police and even the bbc,believe it or not galloway is accusing the bbc of bias in favour of israel in there conflct with the hamas terrorists,you could not make that up could you.but here is my worry about galloway he thinks he is untoucable and can say what he likes,he cant and i urge the good people of belfast to turn out in there hordes this satarday to prevent this man of hate of israel spreading his message of division in in belfast ulster hall on satarday.say no to racism and fascism from the hard left and there hamas allies.
Off topic, but where have all the Polish plumbers gone? Just had a quote for a poky 2 x 2.5 Mtr new bathroom tiled and fitted in a small detached house ‘Up North’. Came to approx £6000!
Anyone know of an Brain Surgeons looking to moonlight? It must be cheaper to use one of them than the average plumber.
Try going through the DIY stores. They have their own sub contracted plumbers who generally do the work for a reasonable price. If you get a private plumber who orders the bathroom suite from his local builders merchant he makes a profit on that too, as well as brands being more expensive.
Mind you if you want to support British industry youre probably better doing that.
I cannot find a way of posting this link, but former US Senator, Allen West, has pointed out that Foley who was beheaded by ISIS went out there to express support for the Sunnis. Worth checking, and worth informing Bowen et al that they are not as safe as they may think
From Allen West’s blog-
“James Foley found out ISIS doesn’t care who you voted for.”
Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/08/james-foley-found-isis-doesnt-care-voted/#A3udGY6pcbbs11k1.99
“According to Daniel Greenfield, writing for Front Page Magazine, “Foley came to Syria to support the Sunni Islamist rebels against the Syrian government.
He cheered on the Sunni Muslim terrorists fighting to ethnically cleanse the Christians of Aleppo. In the conflict between Israel and Hamas, his tweets and retweets were chock full of pro-terrorist propaganda.”
I would love to hear how they would report the kidnapping and beheading of one of their own.
I would not tell Jeremy Bowen how dangerous muslim terrorists are. He is Middle East Editor of one of ‘the best news broadcasters in the world’ and on a salary so large it brings tears to my eyes. If he can’t work it out for himself then that sounds like a whole lotta his problem.
Except that you are compelled to pay for it.
Get out while you can.
Sorry, a little OT though I am getting this from a BBC report.
I just wanted to confirm I wasn’t insane or alone in thinking that the Foreign Secretary was extremely remiss in saying this:
“I don’t think this video changes anything.”
Even Islam-appeasing Obama will not be pleased that a Muslim, Islamic jihadist beheader is able to use England as a base, from which to behead an American journalist.
The Islamisation of Britain.
And it continues.
And Wales-
“Cardiff jihadist’s boasts spark fears of a wave of suicide attacks”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/cardiff-jihadists-boasts-spark-fears-7599227
The piece of filth might already be brown bread – let’s keep hoping.
It is not surprising that the BBC et al are avoiding mentioning the obvious fact that if the UK hadn’t had mass immigration we wouldn’t be worrying about what may happen when the ISIS murders return to the UK.
I don’t suppose they consider this factor when they tell us how beneficial all this immigration has been to the UK.
Of course we all know that if there are terror attacks on the streets of the UK the BBC will make sure that we know that it is down to a few lunatics who are not practising Islam as its founder intended and that they are condemned by all other Muslims without equivocation . And of course its our own fault anyway and we should prostrate ourselves and our values to an even greater extent than we currently do , before the great faith of Islam.
“Immigration has been greatly beneficial to this nation” Or that is what the politicians always say. However they never elaborate further…
The sadness is that the “man in the street” has known this (mass immigration) was going to be a problem years ago. But his views were shut down with “racist” “Little Englander” slurs.
I indeed hope that the denizens of the FBI and CIA are giving our useless govt and lily-livered, ineffective chief constables a whole shedload of grief over our appeasement of muslims here, like to think MI5 are as well……i want to see doors splintered early mornings in Bradford and elsewhere, and squealing muslim youths thrown into vans, and interrogated with firmness if they are Isis supporters or activists. Keep this pressure up, i don’t care about their rights, we are effectively at war with Islam, and the sooner the govt grow up and get with it. The BBC should be held to account for every pro- terrorist report it files.
I agree with him. There are serious issues with regards to islamic extremism that need to be addressed, both at home and abroad, but we shouldn’t respond with a knee jerk reaction.
We knew a week ago that ISIS were evil bastards who acted with extreme brutality, so this murder, however sickening, doesn’t tell us anything new about them.
Au contraire, I feel a knee jerk reaction enabling my boot to kick all the ‘British’ jihadis and their islamaphile mates in the Labour and BBC ranks out of the country would be ideal!
Normally, to submit a comment to a BBC article, you fill out a form, and the comment appears.
Not so with the Have Your Say about the James Foley beheading (on http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28867627):
‘You can send us your comments by emailing haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk using the subject line “James Foley”.
Alternatively, you can get in touch using the form below.’
I think that the BBC want to screen viewer comments before publication to prevent anything that might be offensive to muslims being posted.
This country needs a frank debate about muslim extremism in the UK. It doesn’t need censorship to prevent people’s feelings being bruised.
“Britain’s beheaders – how we came to export jihad”
By Douglas Murray.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/britains-beheaders-how-we-came-to-export-jihad/?
Perhaps more importantly , how many of these ‘nutters’ are we importing or are coming in illegally by the ‘container-full’ due to the open borders that we now have ? What is our prime minister doing to defend these islands ?
There’s a short answer to what he’s doing: sweet FA .
A cocked-up computer system, developed by outsourced cheap Indian IT wallahs, doesn’t exatly inspire confidence.
Non of this debate would be necessary if the Conservative Party had, whilst in opposition, elected David Davis as it’s leader instead of Cameron.
Thanks john.. I’m not going mad. I thought that exact same thought today. He wast my option. I would have voted Tory next time instead of Ukip.
No need to vote Tory pollystuscanyvilla , the answer is here ..
http://www.ukip.org/strip_islamic_state_jihadists_of_british_citizenship
Finally, these Butchers are not British, they do not see themselves as British, and they should not be looked upon as British by our media. They are descendants of people that came to this country to look for freedom and a better life. They are the dogs that bite the hand that fed them. They are traitors.
David Davis is my MP and I too had thought that he would have made an excellent PM. But that was before he went all silly over Shami and caused a local by election at huge cost. And since the Conservatives went into coalition to quote someone and I cannot remember who ‘he will stick his knife in wherever possible’ and he has sulked at what might have been for the last four years and become the ‘useful Tory’ when it suits the Beeb.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/20/Farage-Cites-Foreign-Enlistment-Act
Sorry if already posted elsewhere but thought it apposite
The Guardian says that James Foley’s murderer spoke “multicultural London English” (whatever that is). How long before the bBBC uses that phrase?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/20/isis-militant-islamic-state-james-foley-guards-british?CMP=twt_gu
Frank Gardner, security ‘expert’ quoted on the BBC News website as saying the whole James Foley / ISIS thing ‘is not about religion’.
Que? Have I missed something? What exactly does he think ISIS ( or IS ) is an acronym for?
That is the beauty of their name, their label, their identity.
It shoves the treacherous media bastards into a corner because they have to use the term Islamic when reporting it.
Sickofitall – thought you must have got your facts wrong when you said:
“Frank Gardner, security ‘expert’ quoted on the BBC News website as saying the whole James Foley / ISIS thing ‘is not about religion’.”
So went to check BBC website to see what Frank actually said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28873051
IT’S TRUE – WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH THE BBC – IT CANNOT STATE FACTS :
Frank Gardner, the BBC’s security correspondent, said the video could encourage people to join IS.
“It attracts the worst kind of psychopaths,” he said. “This is not about religion. It’s not even about territory.”
And I heard this clown say on TWATO that “young men (and women of course) mayb well have gone out to Syria with the best of intentions to do humanitarian relief, but may well have been sucked into a vortex of violence, whilst there”
Or words to that effect as I recall this lunchtime.
Boy-talk about wishing on a star!
The clown was disabled by Muslims, as I recall-and the mind obviously went to Stockholm and never returned.
Guess there`ll be no figures whatsoever to back up his fantasies…but it`ll already be holy writ at the BBC and NOT discussed on More Or Less for its statistical idiocy.
Before ISIS are wiped out, some might hope that the BBC Journalist Yearbook is published online in the cause of transparency.
I myself do not-but some allegedly might think it appropriate.
That arsehole is in a wheelchair because of Islam and can’t see it. That is what you are up against.
Exactly. I watched the VICE Tv documentary about ISIS. VICE TV have embedded reporters in ISIS and they showed how the Islamic State is administered and run.
EVERYTHING in that state is about Islam. EVERYTHING! Trying to claim that ISIS is not about religion is like trying to say that the Pope is not about religion and our Parliament has nothing to do with politics.
There is no single consideration for the people of the Islamic State that is NOT to do with religion. Sharia is involved in everything over there.
Why James Foley’s murder was a message to Britain
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/20/opinion/james-foley-message-britain/index.html
“The beheading of Foley was staged as a “Message to America,” but it constituted a direct warning to Britain. It served as a reminder that the killing of a young English soldier Lee Rigby on the streets of south London by two home-grown jihadists last year was not an isolated event.”
wakey wakey beeboids. its time for you to address the islamic threat you have helped create with your left wing bigotry
Although INBBC is not concerned with what either American anti-Islamic jihadist,
Robert Spencer and Pamer Geller, (who are banned from U.K), have to say,
here’s Robert Spencer on the latest Islamic jihad threat to British people-
“British Muslims make up a quarter of foreign Jihadists who have pledged allegiance to the Islamic State”
[Excerpt]:-
“This is the Britain that the British authorities, and those who elected them, have chosen and created. This is the Britain of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Jacqui Smith, Jack Straw, Theresa May and the rest. This is the Britain that has stigmatized resistance to jihad, banned opponent of jihad terror from the country, and done everything it could to appease Islamic supremacists. And this is just the beginning.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/british-muslims-make-up-a-quarter-of-foreign-jihadists-who-have-pledged-allegiance-to-the-islamic-state
These ISIS men turn me on.
Did anyone catch this from John Redwood over at the Commentator:
The BBC misrepresenting Churchill’s views on a future EU.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5173/misrepresenting_churchill_s_views_on_europe_on_the_bbc
Yes just read it. Churchill was not pro ‘States of Europe’ at all. He distrusted Europe.’That is why he wrote a History of the ‘English Speaking Peoples’, in four volumes, not a History of the European peoples’….
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2014/08/19/the-bbc-and-professor-bogdanor-misrepresent-churchill-for-the-sake-of-the-eu/
For INBBC:- on Islam and beheading.
– Conclusion from:-
“Beheading in the Name of Islam”
by Timothy R. Furnish,
Middle East Quarterly,
2005.
“And two major aspects of decapitation in an Islamic context should be noted:
first, the practice has both Qur’anic and historical sanction. It is not the product of a fabricated tradition.
Second, in contradiction to the assertions of apologists, both Muslim and non-Muslim, these beheadings are not simply a brutal method of drawing attention to the Islamist political agenda and weakening opponents’ will to fight. Zarqawi and other Islamists who practice decapitation believe that God has ordained them to obliterate their enemies in this manner. Islam is, for this determined minority of Muslims, anything but a ‘religion of peace.’ It is, rather, a religion of the sword with the blade forever at the throat of the unbeliever.”
http://www.meforum.org/713/beheading-in-the-name-of-islam
As indicated by Sir Arthur’s link above,
‘Guardian’, but not INBBC, has this on Islamic jihadist beheader’s connection to Britain-
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/20/isis-militant-islamic-state-james-foley-guards-british
Given the effort that the BBC claims to take of using ‘neutral’ language, e.g. ‘militant’ rather than ‘terrorist’, (one man’s terrorist is the BBC’s ‘freedom fighter’ and all that), isn’t it time it stopped using terms like ‘British Muslim’, ‘British Man’ etc., terms that imply some attachment to these isles, and used the more accurate and neutral ‘Muslim resident in Britain’ or ‘Pakistani resident in Britain’?
Have not Beeboids facilitated this?
“Professor Anthony Glees, of the Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies at the University of Buckingham, told The Independent: ‘Why are there Brits there? In my view this is because Islamist extremist ideologies have been able to be spread with relative ease in our country under the cover of ‘religion’, ‘free speech’ and ‘multiculturalism’.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/islamic-state-backgrounder-british-fighters-make-up-a-quarter-of-foreign-jihadists-9681547.html
Thoroughly sick and tired of militant, and rebel, and insurgent, and extremist, and ISIS and bloody IS, and the bloody BBC pandering to every new “tag” that aids their deceit to the viewing public, and Camoron and his hashtag/soundbite superficial lack of integrity.
It is clear as crystal, whether Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida, Bokoharam or ISiS, no matter it is ISLAMIC TERROR, fed by
ISLAMIC TEXTS, 1400 years on and no change.
It is clear it is not foreign policy, oppression, disenfranchisement
or any other bullsh-t obfuscation, it IS ISLAM …
Sunni, Sufi, or Shia? … IT IS ISLAM
Jihad? … ISLAM
Calliphate? … ISLAM
This insane push for religious domination? … ISLAM
This insane push for world domination? … ISLAM
ps
and just before any troll tosspot spouts it
peaceful muslim, or the oxymoron “moderate” muslim? … that is in spite of bloody ISLAM, and not because of it.
Address the problem … ISLAM
Deal with the problem … ISLAM
there is a really old saying
“know Islam and no peace … no Islam and know peace”
… is it the truth?
Camoron – WHAT! … IS IT GOING TO TAKE? ……………
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/saifrahman/saifrahman/672/the-jihadist-former-convicted-jihadi-talks-about-homosexuality-women/
Ex-Jihadi:
(and please note its the instant he left ISLAM! , not Jihad)
“The latter change was relatively sudden.
It was a total revaluation, which was made possible because I didn’t bother to confirm to already established beliefs anymore.
Actually, from the moment I left Islam I stopped being an anti-semite, homophobe and mysogynist in an instant. The hate SIMPLY DISAPPEARED. The revaluation of values was radical but liberating.”
This Islamic Foley Murderer.
“Will Theresa May ban this chap from Britain?
Or would that be “Islamophobic”?
And meanwhile, is anyone looking into where he learned his understanding of Islam, and where this understanding is being spread in Britain?
Or would such an inquiry impair “community cohesion”?”
R Spencer
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/isis-fighter-who-beheaded-us-journalist-james-foley-appears-to-be-british-philip-hammond-says-9680059.html
Anyone on this site tried Reuters on line site? It’s refreshing to see a balanced and straight forward news service. Compare it with the BBC ‘s and you will be surprised. It points out incidentally that ethnic minorities make up a whopping 14% of voters in this country and may decide that the (rather useless) Tories might not do another term. Not that I mind especially being no fan of the “ethically cleansed” Cameron and his band. I’m just thinking that it’ll mean possibly a decade of Milliband and Balls. Which will be worse. Proving that Labours immigration policy really has worked. And we were never asked about immigration. Yep. Democracy’s doing just fine for the Liberal elite.
I don`t want to live under Comrade Millipede,Balls, Harperson & Chucky for 1 minute, let alone 10 years . But all you who think voting Ukip will save us ,are surely living in the land of the fairies it ain`t going to happen , & the country will be totally swamped by non English people if Labour win .Just because you think the Tories are ,`Not Conservative enough` ,Is that want you want, what you really want . Then al bbc , Scott , & everyone you hate will have won. God help us & England .
If we keep voting for the same LibLabCon party nothing will ever change.
Be honest what has changed for the better in the last 5 years? Just more of the same, and I voted Tory!
Remember apart from the period 79-90, the last 50 years have yielded a Tory party who took us into Europe and have continued what Heath started ever since and now we have Dhimmi Dave.
Don’t get me wrong I can’ t stand Labour and have never voted for them, but voting either Tory or Labour is just voting for more of the same. Even if UKIP just get one MP, hopefully Farage it will be a start just to get his voice in the HOC.
In essence voting Labour or Tory is voting for the further destruction of this once great nation and more of the same as to what has happened in the period 90-14, I’m taking a punt on the outsider, what other hope have we got?
But would agree UKIP are far from perfect.
I think we know that LibLabCon will bow to the muslim minority. UKIP are unknown.
How many times have you seen the bBC report on the killing of three Israeli youths as such:(All of the below are from the bBC)
“An upsurge in rocket-fire followed an Israeli clampdown on Hamas in the West Bank after the murders of three Israeli teenagers which Israel blamed on the group.”
“Tension between Gaza and Israel rose after the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers in June. Israel blamed the killings on Hamas, though the group denied involvement.”
Rocket fire from militants in Gaza and Israeli air strikes on the territory increased after the abduction and killing of three Israeli teenagers in June, which Israel blamed on Hamas and which led to a crackdown on the group in the West Bank. Hamas denied being behind the killings.
Israeli officials have said Marwan Qawasmeh and Mr Abu Aisha are known Hamas operatives, but the group has denied any involvement. Some have argued that the Qawasmeh clan might have acted on its own.
Get the drift from the bBC, even thou the Israeli knew exactly who did the killings, that they were Hamas operatives and that they ran off to Jordan after the killings. Killings I should add happened after numerous calls that weekend from Hamas to kidnap a jew.
(The poor lads were in 2 separate groups, of 1 and 2. when the car stopped to kidnap the single boy, the other two ran round the corner and jumped in. They could handle 1, maybe 2, but not 3)
And here is the latest from Turkey:
“A senior Hamas official admitted for the first time on Wednesday that the organization’s armed wing, the Kassam Brigades, was behind the kidnapping and murder of Israeli teens Nafatli Fraenkel, Gil-Ad Shaer and Eyal Yifrah in the West Bank in June.
The Hamas official, Salah al-Aruri made the comments during a conference of Islamic clerics in Turkey. He praised the “heroic action of the Kassam Brigades who kidnapped three settlers in Hebron.”
Hamas finally admits: We murdered those 3 boys
That’s a fairly massive piece of context to, still, be next to ignored by the MSM.
I know that by now it’s what they do, especially when the bedrock of a narrative gets shaken to its core, but it seems extraordinary that, best I am aware, no one else has mentioned it, even to excuse, explain or deny.
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source – http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/
I bet you won’t hear about that from the BBC…
Jeff
Just been to a prom, the West East Divan orchestra with Barenboim conducting. What the BBC do so well. A half Palestinian, half Israeli orchestra and the music divine. But we had to have two idiot women waving Palestinian flags. The concert was recorded so it will be interesting to see if the cameras focused in on them.
Good for you. I hope you had a good time.
It is getting bizarre. The liberal media has not got a clue about how to deal with the murder of the American. Bluster and mislead for that they are well equipped.
Now today I heard what is really the crux of the matter.
An ordinary Englishman talking to his friends said ( I paraphrase his words) that he could not understand or accept that the indigenous people of old England are being exposed to the risk of mayhem and war on their streets and in their towns.
That it had never happened before and that whoever allowed this country to come to this ( by which he meant the governing class ) was guilty of treachery at the least.
We are at a turning point and this is what even the liberal dimly realises. We wish to raise our families in the peace we always have had ( at least since the Civil War ) and that was the failure of the governing class.
The elite can scream at us all they want but minds are made up and it would be a foolish government that takes no notice of the public mood.
That the media will fail to report this is inevitable.
The media has failed us. The politicians have failed us.The law and the judges have failed us. The entire governing class has failed us.
Now quite ordinary folk are fearful of the future. That makes them to be feared in their turn. Accusing them of various phobias and un PC thoughts must stop.
What was once a happy land with a social capital built up over generations has been wilfully allowed to go to waste.
Those responsible never asked us or thought they should do so. These are dark days coming and I do not relish them.
Never asked about immigration. Never asked about Europe. Never asked about multiculturalism. False wars. Treated with disgust and lied to by the media. Policemen who no longer walk the streets. Political parties who no longer knock at your door. Leadership who won’t send their children to the same schools or live amongst the people. Capital city, a separate nation culturally and ethnically . A shrinking demoralised military. NHS swamped. Generational families that have never worked. Foreign terrorists who live amongst us. A medieval aggressive religion introduced without consultation or thought. …The decent hardworking tolerant people of this nation deserved better than this.
Oh I forgot.. the quick erosion of real, hard won civil liberties to deal with terrorism.
Well said.
Bravo, succinct and accurate.
According to R4 Toady … the Islamic community have been asked for assistance due to the atrocity, but sadly they haven t a clue
who he is … no no idea … not a clue.
“How did we get here?”
The facts are plain and simple.
Our proud, tolerant and decent Nation elected a Labour Government for 13 years.
They inherited the most Golden legacy any Government ever had in the history of this country.
They imposed upon us a ‘spinning’ culture that made Weapons of Mass Destruction lies just the tip of an iceberg.
They failed miserably in every Department of State:
1. The lunatic Benefits culture.
2. Bank Regulation – They destroyed our economy again – the second time they were in Government in my lifetime.
3. The slowest growth in 50 years; they produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began.
4. They left us mired in the longest recession ever bequeathing us the largest deficit in peacetime history,
5. The debt so huge our Grandchildren will still be repaying it off.
6. Blair got rid of most of Thatcher’s EU rebate leaving us a daily bill of 57 million PER DAY, (chortling after-dinner promise from Jacques Chirac that he’d make Tony Blair President of the EU, which he didn’t. A small mercy and big escape – EU encouraged Ukraine trauma without him – imagine what would be the situataion with him).
7. Immigration – where does one start?
They wanted to rub our noses into it – they certainly did that.
Nearly 4 million net increase, (plus god knows how many illegal’s). More than entered these islands in the preceding 1,000 years combined.
8. But instead of catering for this deliberate increase with schools, doctors, housing: THEY nearly destroyed the NHS – including avoidable death rates going through the roof – 1,200 died in Mid-Staffordshire alone. Taking us back to medieval times of the Black Death.
9. Talking of Medieval –
the Wars they got wrong – Afghan & Iraq being there most heinous crimes –
resulting in ISIS –
radiclising UK Muslims to Syria and Rigby, FMG, Muslim Paedo gangs all over our land.
This is a brewing legacy which we all, (including the vast majority of non-radical decent Muslim population themselves), will have to face up to determinedly face up to this problem now in the same way we stood up to Hitler – mark my words!
10. They built less houses under there reign than since the 20s – notwithstanding this millions increase in the population! They now even question why house prices have no longer become affordable by the upcoming generation, since they made it an area only the rich can enjoy, like their current front bench ‘Millionaires Row’ – not to mention the Blair’s!
11. They raided 5 billion a year from pensions.
12. They sold off 400 tons of UK gold at the lowest price possible – yet they want to criticise Royal Mail sell off – totally different league! More neck than a Giraffe!
13. UK School results slipped from in the world’s top 5 to now in the late 20s. Biggest error was closing Grammar Schools which gave the poor a chance – and allowing Muslims to run Madras’s – another legacy we currently having to unpick!
16. They failed to build a lot of the other necessary infrastructure such as power stations. ZERO is that total.
13. Its easy now to forget the Millennium Dome – 800 million pounds lost – it seems insignificant chicken feed now compared with the total overall legacy!
18. They continually increased fuel duty by over 107% – YES that much – now thankfully escalator dropped.
19. Brown sneakily, discreetly signed the Lisbon treaty, giving vast amounts of power to the EU – going against their own manifesto in which they specifically said they would give the people a referendum.
20. Allowing rich people to buy peerages – even Police interviewed the Prime Minister – what sort of Prime Minister is that! Possibly the one currently under-going Maxwellisation under Chilcot!
21. Started HS2.
22. PFI – again where does one start – just £50 Billion’s worth is costing us £300 Billion in repayments-genius!
23. They have given us a radical Muslim problem which sometime in the future the country is going to have to face head on.
24. They can’t even run their party finances with constant debts – Nor Co-op Bank – relying on Union Barons to call the shots.
25. Under Labour MPs fiddling/expenses ballooned – same as Pedophile scandals.
Even 5 Labour MPs found guilty of expenses fraud by a court and sent to prison
26. Racist Diane Abbott.,
27. Labour corruption from Eccleston to Qinteq defence service making LABOUR Lord Drayson worth over £542 MILLION
28. The gap between rich and poor widened vastly under Labour?
28. They allowed a substantial amount of our 0.7% overseas aid pledge to be corrupted.
29. Sucked up to crony public sector Unions inflating public pay and pensions way above the private sector.
30. Imposed postal voting extension open to political corruption – just look at Tower Hamlets recently – tip of an iceberg!
31. Packed Quangos full of Labour cronies that it is causing huge ongoing problems for the majority of the Nation who do not vote Labour.
32. Impoverished millions with the Climate Change Act of alternative energy zealotry.
33. Created the catastrophe of multicultural extremism by damming those RACIST who dared to point out the real issues.
34. Sent our military to wars under equipped – heinous.
35. Created welfare as a lifestyle, with the totally dysfunctional tax credit system, and the catastrophe of excessive housing benefit
36. Labour insisted on 50% of pupils going to university even though degree level jobs for only 20%.
Got a 100 other points – but the blood pressure too much now!
I knew they were very bad but when you see it all listed it is worse than i ever imagined .
That’s why I left the country six years ago. I fear the only solution will be a coup.d’etat.
Lost the nations tax discs.
Flogged off Rover to the Chinese a few days before the 2005 election.
Walked out on their SATS regime after messing them up
ID cards.
Derry Irvine , Lord Falconer, expenses schmooze, Lord Levy, Boateng,Scotland and her nanny, Amos, Ahmed….eek!
Debauching the electoral process with regional assemblies, bundles of fiddled postal votes.
Bradford, Blackburn, Burnley riots 2001
Chinese and their Olympic goons.
Straw playing politics with Pinochet, the Lord Hoffmann fiddles re that.
I`ve got loads more..someone elses turn!
How about these: Blair’s buddy; Peter Mandelson accepting cheap ‘home loans’ from Labours ‘Mr fixer’ before resigning to remerge as the EU Commissioner was pretty rich! Gordon Brown selling the Gold at the lowest rate was sold exclusively to ‘Russia’ – whereupon it shot up in value. Ed Balls making every parent a ‘criminal’ if they shared a car to take kids to school without a CRB check and then the godawful ‘Badman Review’ which would have banned all Parents legally educating their own children at home. Then there are the Quangos and NGO’s (thousands) appointed by Gordon Brown to carry the torch for Labour in opposition (or in government), The BBC is one big Quango. Stuffing the House of Lords with unpatriotic and self serving Labour jobs worths (unemployable). Treason by changing 1664 Charity Regulations to become corrupted by Suzi Leather and Andrew Hinde (ex BBC) which enabled public money to fund Labour pet charities in secret. National Lottery money was ‘diverted’ to fund Labour causes and benefits. We know that the EU LISBON treaty (2008) was treachery and all kept secret just before they ran out of time (AND MONEY!) The UK near bankrupt with a worse situation than Greece… our children will never be able to repay debts as their future jobs have gone aswell. Only the political elite benefit now.
“Now quite ordinary folk are fearful of the future. That makes them to be feared in their turn. Accusing them of various phobias and un PC thoughts must stop.
What was once a happy land with a social capital built up over generations has been wilfully allowed to go to waste.
Those responsible never asked us or thought they should do so. These are dark days coming and I do not relish them. ”
+ 1000
Should have listened to enoch then,we have only ourselves to blame.The PC brigade will still spout their words just before being strung up,cant hang me on this its wrong on so many levels,thats without health and safety rules.
Temperatures in the south of England according to Thomasz Schaffernacker on the radio this morning, in August down to 2 or 3,degrees. Not surprising that reports of global warming are being suppressed by the Beeb, I expect they are keeping them for the next warm spell.
Toady makes a really big deal over a Dutch Christmas character.
“Black Pete” helps St Nicklaus and based on older fertlity/pagan symbols.
To Al BBCs alarm a figure blacks up … as per tradition, resulting in an absurd elongated piece from Toady, including a debate from a member of the politically correct offended and a bemused Dutch member of the “Black Pete” Society
More PC handwringing Euro nonsense … Al BBC lap it up.
“The Zwarte Pieten have roughly the same relationship to the Dutch Saint Nicolas that the elves have to America’s Santa Claus. According to tradition, the saint has a Piet for every function: there is a head piet (Hoofdpiet), navigation Pieten (wegwijspiet) to navigate the steamboat from Spain to the Netherlands, packing Pieten (pakjespiet) to pack all the gifts, acrobatic Pieten to climb roofs and stuff presents down the chimney, or to climb down the chimneys themselves. Over the years many stories have been added, but over the years.
Zwarte Piet developed from a rather unintelligent assistant into a full assistant of the absent-minded Sint.[3]
Traditionally their faces are blackened because Zwarte Piet is a Spanish (Moorish) servant of Sinterklaas (though some people said Zwarte Piet was originally a slave who, when Sinterklaas bought him his freedom, was so grateful that he stayed to assist him). Today, sometimes the more politically correct explanation that Pete’s face is “black from soot” (as Pete has to climb through chimneys to deliver his gifts) is used.
With the influx of immigrants to the Netherlands starting in the late 1950s, Zwarte Piet is now felt by some to be racist”
Noggin
I’ve just been thinking about the above:
In the Nederland we have black Pete
In the Uk, we’ve had the black and white minstrels, blacked up Morris dancers ,all have been condemned as racist.
Then we have these:
True Identity
White Chicks
For some strange reason nobody has spoken out about the last two, especially if somebody white knocked out a film called black chicks today, it would be seen as pure racism.
“lyrics of older traditional Sinterklaas songs, still sung today, warn that while Sinterklaas and his assistant will leave well-behaved children presents, they will punish those who have been very naughty.
For example, they will, (ahem) … TAKE BAD CHILDREN, CARRY THEM OFF IN A BURLAP, BACK TO THE HOMELAND OF SPAIN”
Spain … could that be Ottoman? Spain …
instil fear, and abducting children? …
any ideas to where a story like this could have its origin?
answers on a postage stamp
Our Dutch friends told me about Black Pete & St Nicklaus, visiting Holland in early December , think it was the 5th, bringing their presents , when I was a little boy in the 60`s , they & us ,thought it was all really nice & exciting. Jump forward 50 years & the bbc sticking their nose into other peoples business ,& its still 4 months away . These shisters just won`t give up, maybe we could do hostage exchanges with terrorist groups , 10 al bbc journo`s, for anyone being held hostage . If the end result for them, is what happened to poor James F ,then good riddance to those evil bbc appeasers .
Any one see the the pathetic academic Doctor on BBC news this morning who had researched ‘radicalism’. Spent 5 minutes on the subject without mentioning Islam. Surely a proper journalist would have prompted him to mention just what the underlying reaosn for this bad behaviour is. Nope the two muppets just sat there nodding looking all upset that our society had let this happen. We are doomed. Doomed to repeat every mistake and doomed to see more bloodshed our streets and it will be the BBCs fault.
Watching Newsnight last night as it went through the charade of faux concern over the
deathmurder of James Foley, I thought that discovering the identity of the British-accented Islamic State criminal who carried out the crime should not be very difficult at all. His voice was more than clear enough in that recording for anyone who knew him here at home to recognise it, or to at least have a very, very good suspicion who he is.Family? They know who he is. Neighbours? They know who he is. His friends here in the UK? They know who he is.
Have these ‘moderate’ muslims, concerned for ‘community cohesion’ and ‘cultural diversity’ in our community come rushing forward to the relevant authorities with their information to help identify this homicidal maniac?
Nah, thought not. Many muslims here in the UK know who this man is. Why are they not coming forward?
Not watched the vid, per instruction (and not much persuading), but even with HD, Hi-Fi on recording and CSI levels of dubious enhancement and analysis (there’s a spoof of reading the serial number of a contact lens or something off a reflection on a car bumper, captured by a store CCTV at night), for the life of me I can’t see what can be gleaned to tie the audio with a wooly hat.
Also, given that in the past murderous nut cases in the cause of [redacted by state establishment as what they clearly say they are doing it for is not what suits] have not been too shy on standing proudly behind their actions! it’s possible he’ll be explaining his motivations to a (possibly nervous) BBC Pulitzer wannabee round the pool of a Qatar 5 star soon. Maybe with diet advice.
If massive publicity was what they wanted, seems they have been obliged.
Personally, ignoring him in public, beavering away in private, and a quiet removal without fanfare at some future point to be forgotten about without ever being known, may be more disconcerting to him and his colleagues than the world’s pols and media emoting and firing up the Black Hawks for photo op in the WH situation room.
Correct.A person’s voice is as distinctive as their fingerprint. We all know our relatives and friends voices instantly.
This man is known. Nobody is saying which says much in itself.
Community harmony? Completely gone for good. The PTBwere warned many times and did nothing.
Good point Dave,
I had to phone somewhere last year and the man who answered came out with his name, ********** , Jim ******* speaking. I was stunned, I replied, that’s not Jim ******* from ******* and he replied yes it is *******, calling me by name.
1) I never gave my name
2) I hadn’t spoken to the bloke for over 20 years.
It’s all in the words: Radio 5’s Rhod Sharp introduces an item on Californian solar power with the comparison between “liberal environmentalists and the extreme far right” [1:42]. The reporter sums up, after the words from a previous Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater Jnr. , “liberal left and hard right” [1:45].
Which side is the ‘good’ side children? Drip, drip, drip.
In passing, the next item is about Asians buying houses in New York. No not those Asians, silly! The ones that get on with their lives and who make all those goodies for us for grains of rice.
Austria:- ‘asylum seekers’ = Islamic jihadists.
Beeboids are forever campaigning for limitless numbers of ‘asylum seekers’ to enter Britain.
This Beeboid report on Austria indicates how easy it is for the Islamic jihad Trojan Horse to get into the E.U via that route.
“Syria conflict: Austria police hold nine jihadist suspects”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28871771?
Will Islam Not BBC (INBBC) join in this search, or will it be more concerned with
the ‘human rights’ of the Muslim executing beheader?
“Find Britain’s ‘Black Beatle’: Hunt for masked butcher identified as ‘John’ –
a Londoner in gang of UK homegrown jihadis known as ‘The Beatles.'”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2730336/Find-British-butcher-mask-Jihadi-filmed-beheading-American-journalist-identified-John-Londoner-gang-UK-extremists-known-The-Beatles.html#ixzz3B0rgKS4v
‘Telegraph’ (£)-
“Another life in British jihadist’s hands after James Foley beheading.
David Cameron calls for ‘patience’ in tackling British jihadists who have travelled to Iraq and Syria intent on murder, as fears grew that they could kill a second US journalist.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11047329/Another-life-in-British-jihadists-hands-after-James-Foley-beheading.html
‘Telegraph’ (£)-
“‘British’ jihadist who beheaded journalist is Londoner called John.
An international manhunt is under way to identify the British militant who beheaded American journalist James Foley, with sources suggesting he is a London-born fanatic called John.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11047109/British-jihadist-who-beheaded-journalist-is-Londoner-called-John.html
Supplementary.
‘Independent’-
“James Foley beheading sparks international manhunt for ‘John’ the British jihadist”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/james-foley-beheading-sparks-international-manhunt-for-john-the-british-jihadist-9682506.html
I can’t understand the outrage over what this British Muslim has done, why?
In the late 90s when British Terrorists (including the son of Abu Hamas) were caught in Yemen, they played the victim card to the British Government and the Media supported them
In 2001 after so many British Muslims were arrested in Afghanistan, they played the victim-card and the British media supported them
The same with Muslims caught around the world, Egypt,Kenya,Somalia and Syria everytime the Media play the victimcard for these thugs.
This current Government handed over passports and £1 million each to the idiots jailed in Cuba, we feeded and funded agitators such as Chowdry, Hamza and that dick in Lebanon.
If this murdering bastard is found, he will be made into a victim by the likes of the bBC .I mean they did that just last week for a jailed Terrorist funder
Brother: Talha Ahsan kept in ‘concrete tomb of hell’
I’m all for making him into a victim. Very slowly.
How they pontificated over the L Rigby Killers trial
How about all the airtime, the time they spent shilling for M Begg.
The overt airtime over Binyam Mohammed
The continuing Shakar Amar beebfest.
They have form.
If they are well-known as “The Beatles” they might well have told people back in the UK that is their nickname. So people here would know who the murderer is.
Re, the voice – our intelligence agencies may well have a short-list of possibles, and may well have voice samples from their earlier times in London
Another for the “worse than we thought” files.
Greenland ice loss doubles from late 2000s
Strangely, I found it because it is sitting at No. 4 in the “most shared” list – but it is nowhere in the “most read” list. Yet. Call me cynical, but I wonder who is doing the sharing to make sure it’s prominent in the list?
I don’t know why the warmists are so agitated. If and when this lot blows the effects of “global warming” will be the least of our worries.
Interesting you should notice that. I noticed a similar thing the other day. All the ‘most shared’ stories seemed to be the ones sympathetic to the BBC’s view but the ‘most read’ weren’t. And what does the widget default to? Most shared.
They’re not manipulating this, are they??
Is Islam Not BBC (INBBC) being slowly pressured to shift away from using its politically euphemistic and dangerously misleading descriptions of Islamic terrorists as mere ‘militants,’ into using the accurate description of ‘JIHADIST’ more often, as here?:-
“James Foley beheading: Hunt on for ‘British’ jihadist”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28876994
The BBC and claims; those they like, those they ignore, those they share others like, or don’t….
—
Media Lens @medialens
BBC: ‘Then came President Assad’s use of chemical weapons against his own people.’ No, it remains a contested claim http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28867370 …
It’s not balance though. As too many agree the BBC punts out claims under a variety of guises, ranging from flat out uncorroborated fact through PR to “quotes” to, all too rarely, flagged ‘best there is’, which often may be better left until proven.
Whatever it is, once through the BBC Editorial Guidelines and internal filters, it is not news, probably inaccurate and seldom objective.
News24: bBC selective as to how PC they are, forever using the word alleged when something is obvious has happened. So when reporting on the undercover cops that they are not to face criminal prosecution; they claimed that the cops conned the women. Where is the proof, bBC makes a judgement as to what happened.
Time for a full independent judicial inquiry into Al Beeb ?
I must admit I find it a very strange case. Having sexual relations with a woman whilst pretending to be someone else surely isn’t a crime. The women were adults and consented. If the Policemen committed a crime than so has every bloke who pretended to have a good job and a car so they can get their leg over some woman who is only interested in what they can get out of a bloke.
three words, com, pen, and sayshun.
BBC – Attorney general meets Brown family
US Attorney General Eric Holder meets the parents of Michael Brown, the black teenager killed by police in Ferguson, Missouri last week.
Police captain: ‘No shootings’
Critics of US, focus on Ferguson
Residents fear police and looters
Three fatal minutes, several versions
Elsewhere
“Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department’s top brass told – FoxNews.com.”
and the story appears to be that the “Gentle Giant” had already wrestled for the cop’s gun while the cop was in the car – and was now rushing at the cop whom he had already beaten badly from about 20 feet away.
Sounds like self-defence to me, just like the George Wasserman case. But the BBC will not present that possibility to us.
Of course not. He’s still an unarmed black teenager to the BBC.
Not BBC I know, but the junior partner in the BBC-Guardian axis. The Guardian’s reporting on UKIP’s sneak peak at its manifesto is already beyond belief before it’s even started:
Immediately beneath the title:
“The party’s canny ideas – stolen from everyone else”
Reading the entire piece, it’s all over the place. It reeks of fear tbh.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/21/ukip-manifesto-voting-tories-labour
Her background from The Guardian itself:
“Anne Perkins has been a leader writer, lobby correspondent and feature writer for the Guardian since 1997. Previously, she was political correspondent for BBC News and, before that, for Channel 4 News. She has presented a range of political and current affairs programmes on radio and television”.
The comments are full of lefties who agree that she & UKIP have a point. Now scared that they might have to wear a burka in their lifetime. A handful of right thinking people who are loving taking the mickey out of them all.
The Black Beatle.
Move over Moazzam Begg, Amnesty International have a new poster boy.
Has anyone commented on how racist this nomenclature is?
Is there a Widows’ team yet?
I think Scary Spice is taken, as is Gullible Spice, Slapper Spice, Wailing Spice and ‘Wandering About Rubble With Orla Emoting’ Spice, but Ginger, Sporty, Baby and Posh still up for grabs.
BBC ‘acted appropriately’ in Sir Cliff Richard coverage – says the BBC Head Honcho
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-28886012
No S**t Sherlock
In a letter to Home Affairs Select Committee chairman Keith Vaz, Lord Hall said: “I believe that BBC journalists have acted appropriately in pursuing this story.”
And, as we know, at the BBC belief trumps everything.
🙂
Also that he can touch the sky, this time it will be forever…etc…
Often not enough, mind.
Lord Hall’s beliefs are always passionate. He is a man of the Arts, so the facts are less important than his passionate beliefs.
The shock, I tell you shock here at this revelation is hard to quantify.
One does notice ‘the BBC’ did not have room in the headline to point out it was the BBC DG offering this unconflicted opinion about the BBC.
So rather than answering any questions, Lord Pantone has simply pulled a ‘got it about right’ and moved on.
Not so uniquely.
‘The force complained to Lord Hall and said the BBC appeared to have broken its own editorial guidelines.’
This rather key aspect appears to remain unaddressed.
Why?
This was an item on yesterday’s Media Show on Radio 4. The conclusion was that the BBC was perfectly correct to blackmail the police into giving them an exclusive, but that the police were seriously at fault for allowing themselves to be blackmailed.
Whatever the BBC do is “the right thing”. The arrogance makes the Pope look as insecure as Woody Allen.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/first-dan.html
‘Enough sages have decided the BBC and South Yorkshire Police have questions to answer about the search of Sir Cliff Richard’s Sunningdale flat to require a fairly detailed response from both parties.’
Yet Tone has issued waffle and the key question (above) remains unanswered. Very BBC.
‘If he did his own thinking over the deal with South Yorkshire Police, he may wish to reconsider. At least, it wasn’t him who called the helicopters in.’
That sack must be awfully full. Or big. Or both.
Please note one can export Jihad only after one has imported it.
Please have a word with Tony so it does not happen again.
So I’m watching this bBC report on the funeral of Mohammed Daif and Yolande Knell reports from the site of the air strike wearing body armour and no helmet. The question I have to ask is why?
1) There are no IDF troops in Gaza, so no chance of getting shot.
2) if on the chance, an airstrike hits nearby , wearing body armour would make very little difference, however wearing a Helmet would make more of a difference.(not much,)
So the question you have to ask is why is she wearing body armour ? Could it be to promote this sense of Gazian victimhood, that people are scared to go outside in case they get hit from above. Well if that was the case the thousands of people who attended shown at the start of the video protesting don’t subscribe to that fearset.
This is how the bbC defends Islamic terrorism