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So reading the news headlines about the latest extension of the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel
Gaza ceasefire ‘extended by a day’
The Gaza ceasefire has been extended for a further 24 hours after talks in Cairo, a Palestinian official has told the BBC. Israel has yet to comment.</i<
If i didn't know better I would presume that Hamas is all for peace and the Jew isn't. Pretty typical anti-Semitic coverage of the bBC.
Love how the following information paints Israel as the evil one.
I see the bBC has another article on Saint Assange:
Love these statements:
Mr Hrafnsson later said the plan “as always” was for Mr Assange to depart when the UK “calls off the siege”.
Siege?
The plan, as always, is to leave as soon as the UK government decides to honour its obligations in relation to international agreements”
Would that be to send the man( who placed himself in self imprisonment after failing to find sanctuary in the UK from Sweden, where ironically he moved to, in which to ensure he didn’t get sent to..the US.) to Sweden as per the international and European arrest warrant issued in his name.
Maybe the reality of the situations is that the Ecuadorians have finally got sick and tired of seeing him and decided enough is enough and decided to kick his arse out .
Assange is running out of friends. because he has behaved abomnibly towards so many people who have tried to help him. His arrogant narcisism and very poor judgement are the sole cause of his predicament. He should hand himself over to the authorities.
IRONY ALERT! Keith Vaz to question South Yorks Police and BBC over Cliff raid. BBC says they won’t answer questions of editorial policy. Police accuse BBC of blackmail. BBC says it hasn’t received police letter. Savile report suppressed. Open and inclusive, that’s “our” BBC.
Yes very IRONIC that Keith Vaz -of all people- wants to question South Yorks Police on such a matter. He has convenient memory loss. (Read this weblink (and you can smell the cover up on paedophiles which Vaz knew involved senior politicians in Labour, ranks, BBC Managers and (some) Westminster Tory MP’s. The evidence is long gone, but there are enough eye witnesses (and suicides) accounts who saw/knew of the destruction of Police ‘evidence’. One was Vaz.
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/keith-vaz-mp-knows-nothing-about-elm.html
Imagine for a moment if News International had refused to cooperate with the authorities on the grounds of ‘edtorial policy’.There would be uproar.
This isn’t about editorial policy, it’s about unauthorised disclosure and the possibility that the BBC were inducing misconduct in public office
While others go to prison, the monster that is the BBC is a law unto itself
Quite so.
Is there any constraint on the extent of this BBC ‘editorial policy’ stonewalling, or is it a game anyone can play?
Where once there may have been some faith in professional integrity they may have had a slight basis to resist, but that has long since collapsed.
The BBC is basically saying, and being allowed to say, it can do what it wants without needing to explain, because it is… the BBC.
Not sure that holds up any more. Especially given just how often and how badly they cross lines no one else would get near without a world of hurt coming down.
Good grief!
Kirsty Wark finds herself all at sea yet again, as she seems to have all the wrong figures when moaning at Lousie Casey.
Casey was a poster child for Blairs mob way back, but now that she works for the Tories?…Kirsty is far from happy at the good news that “problem people” are doing better under this Government that Newsnight would like.
Did Mark Duggan die in vain?
Wark really doesn`t want to know the facts-just hopes that Casey will say that the Tories have done badly, and will never favour Warks people-the druggies, the crims and the feckless workshy.
Next up-some madcap Princeton wannabe Jesse Jackson maons that the US prefers the damned Jewish injustices of Gaza to the death of a teenage brother in Missouri.
Kirsty liked this-but failed to mention that the profs moaning about branded ads in education would have mattered more had he not been surrounded by logos for his OWN brand of “education that is denied to brother Brown”-at leafy Princeton Uni.
Hypocrite-but the right colour, the old Afro and a Malcolm X tapeloop as recired from a Weathermen script…so Kirsty purred.
And don`t blame Obama at all-the black leaders apparently aren`t telling him about Trayvon or Brown.
Bloody Jews whispering in his ear eh?
She wound up her awful programme with her wondering if we really don`t need to speak English to live here-and lets David Lammy get away with saying that the cruel Tories aren`t near as generous to Abdul and his family as his party used to be.
Bloody awful…but, hey it pays Kirstys way and lets her kids thrive at good schools doesn`t it?
I don’t have the links to hand, and apologise if this has already been noted, but the BBC website finally ‘reported’ on the Palestinian ‘protest’ that occurred in B’ham Tescos. One ‘man’ was arrested after causing ‘minor damage’. No mention of him allegedly assaulting a police officer, as found in other ‘sources’ of ‘news’, e.g. Birmingham Mail to name but one.
Meanwhile, as though to demonstrate their renowned impartiality, the BBC website also reported a story from Israel about some nasty right wing Jews making a pest of themselves at a mixed faith wedding. This was a serious enough event to make the front page of the website. The Tesco / Palestinian protest? Found on the West Midlands page via the search bar.
You say; “No mention of him allegedly assaulting a police officer, as found in other ‘sources’ of ‘news’,”
And the BBC report says;
“Naveed Zafar, 35, of Naseby Road, Alum Rock, faces two counts of assault, three of assaulting a police officer and one of obstructing an officer.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-28833906
Yes, it does ‘now’ – granted – but it didn’t when I first read it yesterday afternoon, hence my post. Must be one of those BBC ‘stealth edits’ or ‘updates’.
Have you anything to say about my other points, or are you just cherry picking that one?
as usual a cherry pick so he can not address the issue and then claim that your whole point isn’t worth commenting on because that one thing was wrong (when a stealth edit seems likely after you had posted)
They work as a team, defending their £4 Billion protection racket. They get an edit done, then waltz in here to play all innocent.
Bastards.
Always worth a page capture to go with any BBC URL, as newsniffer or wayback will not always be to hand.
But from purveyors of truthiness overseen by a Trust claiming transparency backed by ‘purposes of’ redactions & exclusions, all of whom have an edit suite and know how to use it, nothing is, or remains what it seems.
So that little outing from the latest archivist may need to go in the #wheninhole file.
“But that’s not true”
Give away name, volunteered or employed to rebut criticism of the BBC online, is my guess. Perhaps he(more likely she) hopes to get a job one day as top mod at BBC News.
Stealth edit is not evidence of good faith, only of being caught out. We know your ways BBC.
You may have our idiot Prime Minister running scared of you but in the age of the internet , you are toast. How much longer can the BBC hang on to license fee funding? You are finished, and riddance with all your overpaid privileged public-school educated “Socialist” fellow-travellers..
18 August 2014 Last updated at 14:05
It happened two days before.
Easy way to check.
Maybe you or one of the other seven could ask the BBC to pop back in the archives and show what the history was/is?
Good luck with that.
There’s also the small matter of just how trusted the BBC is now even if they did.
Given the current image with this caption (repeated in subhead):
‘A Tesco spokesman said there was some minimal damage to a few goods inside.
I’m presuming these Coke cans all had Moshe or Rachel on the labels?
I also doubt ‘throwing stock’ involved a few tablets of Knorr lobbed about either.
Guess no other interviews were conducted with folk less keen to play down the business-damaging situation or, if so, any Kay Burlian ‘you can’t say that’ quotes were consigned to the edit room floor?
‘East Fife 4 Forfar 5’. Just to remind us that occasionally, very occasionally, the bBBC got something right. James Alexander Gordon, who read the football results on BBC radio weekly for 40 years, has died. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28844131
BBC interviewed an immigration lawyer about the illegal immigrants found in a container at Tilbury. First the BBC man seemed to have the impression that these people had been trafficked here against their will! Fortunately the immigration lawyer did make it very clear that wasnt the case, and the only aspect of this that was ‘trafficking’ was that they had paid to be help-ed to cross borders illegally.
This ploy having misfired the BBc man then asked if given ‘ the enormous public sympathy for their plight’ this might improve their chances of being accepted as refugees!
‘Enormous sympathy’? Really?!?!
Has the BBC carried out a quick poll? LOL
I have absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for these illegal aliens committing a crime to come here and steal from us. Put them all in the first container back.
Well, it looks like our Prime Minister is failing with his promise to get the immigration numbers down – They are now coming in by the container full . Roll on UKIP and roll on Farage!
Another lorry load with 20 from Eritrea and Kashmir found today (Tuesday) on the M5 heading towards Exeter. It made the local news but I did not see it on the main news at 6 p.m. Still reporting the Tilbury one though where surprise, surprise they are claiming asylum.
Ukip ,won`t win the election ,but Labour probably will , because the right vote will be split. Voting UKip in Tory marginals, will let Labour in , & Scott will be laughing at everyone on this site for the next 5 years .
So what is the Tory Party going to do about it then ?
So I have to vote for a liberal progressive multicultural politically correct Europhile climate change lying big spending intrusive governing bunch of Islam appeasing traitors, to stop the other group of liberal progressive multicultural politically correct Europhile climate change lying big spending intrusive governing bunch of Islam appeasing traitors from winning?
Thank’s for your concern, but I will vote for Britain loving, non-racist, sovereignty respecting, climate realists in UKIP. There is no other way to get our country back from traitors, is there?
That means your next PM will be Comrade Millipede, that`s the only other outcome , Ukip will split the right vote, & even more of the policies, you & the rest of us hate, will be implemented ,with a fanatical hatred, on white English people.Mark my words.
I think UKIP are hampered by our illustrious State broadcaster (among others) putting the knife in at every opportunity. I hear what you are saying about ‘Comrade Millipede’ but the fight back has to start somewhere and at the moment UKIP are all we have. They rattled a few cages at the Euro elections so maybe more and more people are at last waking up to the true state of this country. Worth a try anyway.
It could be over for UKIP. The ting tong episode revealed that UKIP will spend the entire election campaign apologizing for PC gaffes, and never have a chance to put forward their policies.
UKIP dominates social media. People listen less and less to the mainstream media.
Let’s face it, the entire mainstream press and TV media turned the whole of the EU election run-up into an on-going, 24/7 lie-filled attack on UKIP and what happened? UKIP became the first party, other than tory or labour, to win a national election outright in the UK for over 100 years.
I am STILL voting UKIP and the more the mainstream media lie, distort and attack UKIP, the more I know I am doing the right thing, because UKIP are the ONLY mainstream national party who are dedicated to returning OUR collective sovereignty over OUR free country to the British people.
I cannot vote for traitors, so I cannot vote tory, labour or Libdem.
IF it is Comrede Milipede, or Dhimmi Dave, it will make no difference. The EU will continue to run everything, Islam will still take over our culture more and more, UK Government debts will continue to increase, the cost of energy will continue to increase, there will be a continuous extention of corrupt corporatism and our culture wil be further undermined. The exact same thing happens under both parties.
Should I care if it is Miliband or Cameron who are betraying all voters in this country? Or should I try to actually do the only peaceful thing I, individually, can do to try to prevent it?
I am still going to vote UKIP. Voting tory or labour is voting FOR PC multicultural appeasement of Islamic terrorism, EU control, massive and increasing debt and our elderly and infirm being frozen to death every cold winter.
What has Cameron actually done to protect our nation and culture, to earn my vote? He is as big an appeaser of Islamic extremism as any labour MP!
Excellent last paragraph.
Well, Scott’s employers may find a Pole, or Eritrean or Indian or African to do his job for a third of what they pay him……then watch him weep. Though of course, in luvvie land, they make sure that they keep jobs ‘ in-house ‘, unlike the productive sector that earns the taxes to pay the un-productive, a more numerous lot.
I don’t begrudge anyone wanting to improve their lot. Personally I have more sympathy for economic refugees than for benefit and health tourists. But it is not for the BBC to say what the ‘public’ wants.
All those who vote Ukip, & Comrade Millipede wins , please will you contribute to the extra taxes , I will have to pay . I don`t want to live for 5 years, under Millipede , Balls , Harpersons & Chucky `s jackboot . Be very afraid, if you are English & white ,from next May.
The BBC seems to casting around for a line to take on our intervention in Iraq. Good or bad? What is the Guardian/liberal position?
Maybe after a few dinner parties in North West London we will be given the verdict.
I await it with interest.
My prediction is that we arm the Kurds who really want an independent Kurdistan. This annoys the Turks in particular and they start to moan a lot. The Iranians moan as well. We get the blame as usual and everybody forgets about Isis which quietly goes on building itself up into what is the greatest threat Europe has faced for generations.
If we start fighting directly against Isis it will be nasty and innocent people will die. Maybe better in Iraq than on our European streets. For once Cameron seems to get it.
The liberal never will but that is their way.
Wait for the usual suspects to question any action we take.
Dave, I pretty much accept your prognosis, but I would add that for us here in the West there are no good choices – the Kurds are not our friends, either, and we would be foolish to imagine differently. The Kurds can hardly furnish a glowing CV when it comes to respecting basic human rights and the kind of freedoms we enjoy. And, as ever, the ‘religion of peace’ hangs like a funereal pall over all sides.
If it were up to me I’d let them all fight it out amongst themselves and when ISIS have won (because in the end, due to the dithering cowardice of politicians here in the West, they will) we just nuke them from space.
Sadly, we live in the real world. We must be very careful of our ‘new friends’, the Kurds, in Iraq. It wasn’t so long ago we were on the verge of arming those in Syria who are now our new enemies in Iraq. There are simply no good choices to be made in that hellhole. And so it goes round…
The Kurds are the best of a bad bunch – don’t forget that the Kurds played an important part in the Armenian genocide. They’re only interested in enriching themselves and protecting their own people, specifically fellow Kurds. A bit like politicians here … apart from the ‘protecting their own people’ bit.
Thank God the backbench revolt in the Commons prevented us from joining in the Syrian civil war on ISIS’ side.
Just imagine if they had voted to go in. I could now be writing, “We went in, armed “moderates rebels”. Russia stepped back, Assad kept his chemical weapons stores. Our aerial bombardment finally forced Assad from power, Cameron made a statesmanlike speech about removing tryants. Isis then slaughtered the moderates we were helping and took over Syria, on the border with Israel. Isis now has a large cache of chemical WMD and control of all of Syria. Israel has been attacked with chemical weapons. Thousands have died in Tel Aviv.
It would always have been insane to go in on the side of ISIS/Al Qaeda.
It is deeply depressing that our calibre of parliamentarians even allowed such a vote to take place. Such a decision should never have even been considered for more than a minute.
I would be in favour of lending air-support to Assad to kill ISIS though.
What shocks me on a daily basis is how the liberals can visciously attack UKIP, EDL, Christians and anyone else who supports moderate UK traditional values, and call for laws to change in order to imprison such people as being neo fascist Nazis, or worse, yet in the next breath they are defending Hamas et al, who make the likes of the Westboro Baptist church look like liberal progressives by comparison.
It strikes me as being a case that those liberal progressives on the left are using Islam as a tool to vent their own vile racial, sexist and homophobic hatred, in a liberal-progressively, Politically Correctly acceptable manner.
Islam allows them the opportunity to be vile racists and yet still claim to be multiculuralist non-racists.
They are sick in the head!
+1m
There is one thing very much in common with liberalism and Islam. Both creeds believe that they alone possess the truth.
All other beliefs are therefore not legitimate and even perverse.
Hence the odd fact that the liberal left accuses the BBC of pro Israel bias.
It is not that the BBC is actually deemed to be pro Israel but that even presenting a case for Israel and permitting it to be heard is perverse because it deviates from the truth as the liberal sees it.
This is true of most things- immigration, education, the economy you name it the liberal has the truth.
Liberalism is a failure of imagination and an excess of empathy which drives out a realistc view of humanity and events. it has been the bane of the Western world since the French Revolution and has killed millions.
But no empathy whatsoever to the victims of [socialists | communists | Islam] etc… Often those victims have suffered far far worse than any have under free market capitalism.
One of the best and most succinct summaries of the liberal-left mindset.
Why rely on the BBC when you can listen to a police scanner for the St louis police where the riots are going on in America. Theres been shootings all night and petrol bombs thrown at dibble. Right now someone has been shot in the hand and is being taken to hospital by the cops
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner
now a woman has been shot and is lying on the ground next to a dumpster. the police are making sure the area is safe before the fire dept go in to treat the casualty
OT but Classic FM news just now had a reporter wailing he’d been ejected from an area by the police because there were reports of shooting. Seems he hadn’t heard it so it hadn’t happened. Clearly the Jezza school of investigation and analysis is spreading far and wide.
Plus the fact that the police are removing him for his OWN good! I wish the police would just leave stupid journalists like that and let them get mugged and shot
One journalist from the Huffington Post really showed his stupidity. He was pointing out what he said was evidence the Police were using rubber bullets on protesters until someone told him the “evidence” was in fact EAR PROTECTORS! Check the Drudge Report and The Daily Caller for all the details and the name of the reporter.
If only.
If the police did that, then the reporters would be complaining of police negligence in failing to protect reporters.
Yesterday the BBC seemed to be blaming the St Louis problems on the fact that the police are largely ‘white’ in a City which is majority ‘black’! More so called ‘positive’ discrimination required no doubt then, robbing white people of job opportunities.
Are they suggesting blacks are ‘racists’ who will not tolerate policing by whites?
Obviously equality laws are not working in that part of the US as the thousands of young blacks applying for police jobs keep getting turned down on racial grounds.
At least, that is the only conclusion you can reach from the BBC’s coverage.
Anyone noticed that things seem to have worsened since the Governor appointed the Affirmative Action Captain Rogers of the State Highway Patrol to take over policing of the riots after removing local police from the operation? It seems he’s made one cock up after another. He attended a meeting of black community organisers and told them he was ashamed to be wearing a police uniform. He said there would be no excessive force from the police, then introduced a curfew and used tear gas on demonstrators. Last night he read a prepared speech before news cameras and stumbled over his words and looked somewhat distant and all at sea. Oh yes, Affirmative Action really works to the benefit of an organisation.
Maybe if they got Chris Evans to play him?
Briefly…
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/16/5878527/marvel-is-replacing-steve-rogers-with-the-first-black-captain-america
All will then be well.
From an American site “First there was the convenience store video showing Michael Brown stealing a $50 box of cigars and pushing around the store clerk like the enormous bully that he was. There were screams of “unfair” from the Brown family’s attorney, but the video clearly showed an enormous Black man in a white t-shirt and with a red Cardinals cap, which matched up with the individual who assaulted the cop. This video not only establishes Brown as a violent thug and a crook, it also implies that Brown might not want to comply with any police who crossed his path that day since he had just committed a crime.
Then it was disclosed that the officer suffered injuries and had gone to the hospital.
Then a coroner reported that all six shots came from the front. ”
So not really the “unarmed black teenager” mantra the Bbc are repeating over and over. Who do I believe well it’s not the BBc.
BBC news this morning reporting US National Guard fail to restore order in Ferguson. US Media asking where are the National Guard, no one has seen them, its just cops on the streets. No mention from the BBC of the mass shootings or petrol bombs thrown by the protesters
Also US media reporting over a dozen witnesses confirm the cops version of events. CNN reporting riots due to revolutionary communists and anarchists
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/18/Michael-Brown-Allegedly-Bum-Rushed-Officer-Punched-Him-in-Face-Grabbed-Gun-Taunted-Him
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/08/19/CNN-Revolutionary-Communists-and-Anarchists-Causing-Unrest
video of the aftermath, witness at about 6:25 describing events saying he was fighting with the police officer. audio is low as voice is in the background. graphic content so if you dont like seeing dead thugs dont watch!!
From BBC website news front-page: “US police and protesters clash again in Ferguson, Missouri,”
Protesters? No, they are violent rioters, looters, theives and thugs. They are Criminals. They are not Protesters.
Hear that Scott…..black onlooker saying that ‘a nigger’ has been shot…..i.ve been to the States, and on many occasions i heard blacks using the word, no white person, although i’m sure they do. Gave a few dollars to a kindly looking old black guy begging in the student/ bohemian area of Washington DC, and he clutched my hand and said, ‘God bless you man, having pity on an old nigger’. So Scott et al, kindly STFU. I thank you.
I wondered who the white people were in videos of the troubles and now I know. The usual kids of middle class background who want to “change the world” like Paxman said of the Newsnight lot before he left
The desire of these young facists to “change the world” is not tempered by the concept of “consent” of the rest of society. May be I don’t want my world changed into what THEY want. We have a ballot box. It’s called democracy. Their self-righteous narcissism gives them the right to “change the world”? No it doesn’t. But the BBC journalists simply can not help but side with “protestors”. Even if they are in reality just a bunch of agitators, criminals and facists.
I expect the national Guard failed because they are too ‘white’ too?
BBC “Today£ this morning gleefully describing inappropriate behaviour by police in their social media communications. Don’t the BBC staff do the self-same thing on theirs? Utter hypocrisy.
Seems the fuzz merely need to pop ‘views my own’ at the top and ‘…apparently’ at the end, and all will be well.
Maybe the odd ‘please stop making us look bad’ plea from a Chief Constable ( near certain a lady, so hugs & kisses indeed possible as a sign off) every so often to show the £150kpa is well earned?
Sorted. Mutual assured public sector backside covering.
Or is the BBC more unique than others?
Al Beeb reporting this morning, that prisons in Britain are facing overcrowding problems. One reason mooted for the extra numbers are those brought about by the Jimmy Savile case?
No mention of the increase in the amount of foreign criminals. Criminals who see our prisons as ‘hotels’ in comparison with the jails in the third world and some parts of Europe from where they come from.
The latest children’s bBC story:
Children in Gaza return to their homes
Emotive, British Islamic victims and of course only one big bad villain. However I do have to ask one question, if the house was destroyed, how come the vast majority of the family are unmarked? I mean the father does say he saw the missile cone, really? Something doesn’t sound right here, maybe its me and the fact that instead of wailing the man has a smile on his face.
According to the rioting protesters in the US Micheal Brown was shot from behind while he had his hands in the air. Here is the photo of the autopsy report as paid for by the family and aired by the bBC
For a start all the rounds hit Brown from the front, four of them in the right arm. Sorry but that is bloody good shooting to hit somebodys right arm while he is surrendering and when he has them in the air.
From the bBC:
Dorian Johnson, Mr Brown’s friend who was with him during the shooting, said that the confrontation began as a scuffle at the police car window with Mr Wilson still seated inside. …While Mr Brown was running away from Mr Wilson, Mr Johnson says that his friend was shot once from behind .
There are no entry holes from the rear.
and why does everybody show this picture of the dead man
He was 6 foot four and weighed 300 Lbs , some innocent teenager. He is on video of robbing a store with violence minutes before he died.
and yet to the bBC he is the real victim,
I am not defending Micheal Brown, nor the violent criminals who are destroying the town of Ferguson, but I would point out that the autopsy picture above does not prove, nor disprove, the assertion that he had his hands up when shot. If the first or second bullet hit him in the head, then his arms would have dropped. The bullet wounds in his arms may have been sustained whilst he was on the ground. The point is, so long as we do not know what order the bullets hit him, we do not know if he had his arms up in surrender or not. The wounds do suggest strongly that he was hit in the front.
Ken valid points, However the main basis of this story line is he was shot from behind. In fact one of the first accounts from the bBC was he was hit numerous times from behind.
As for being hit whilst on the ground, that is a possibility, however I would have expected the rounds to be grouped centre mass , in the trunk of his body. And from the photos of the body he is laying face down, with what it looks like his arms underneath his body.
…pounce – and that would be consistent with Brown rushing back at the cop
‘picture above does not prove, nor disprove, the assertion’
So currently, what anyone has to hand means anything could have happened based on what is known.
There may yet be more. Sadly, unlike CSI, not resolved in 50 minutes.
Bringing us back to what is known, relevant to this blog and topical.
That being a bunch of folk hit the streets, egged on by a bunch of other folk who know exactly what was going to happen and if knowing any better didn’t care.
And the BBC got one on the blower to bring us up to speed as soon as he could fit them in his busy hustling schedule.
Meanwhile BBC’s greatest hope for change President seems to be going down as less than the US hoped for, or deserved.
Of course, whatever the coroner/forensic examiner actually finds, no “independent” report will be found acceptable by the MSM unless it states that the Policeman/woman was completely guilty.
Other than the fact as the evidence from the autopsy report suggests, is that he was shot from the front, we do not know what led to the officer feeling a necessity to fatally shoot Brown.
There are many many cases of good honourable police going beyond the call of duty and of severely nasty corrupt police failing and bringing their forces into disrepute, and this is NOT a comment to attack police, in any way, shape or form..
BUT we do not know which one this officer was, good or bad. We do not know if he followed the correct procedures in the situation or not, or what the real, or apparent level of threat was.
I would like to know the actual, real truth, whether that exonerates the officer or not. I am not jumping to biased conclusions, one way or the other.
I still utterly condemn the riots, and the burglery from the convenience store which Brown had apparently committed. In no country on earth is theft is a sufficiently serious crime to justify extra-judicial execution.
I hope that the officer really did have sufficient need to be legally justified in drawing his weapon and shooting Brown, but from the evidence I have seen so far, I cannot conclude a judgement upon that, either way, as yet.
I agree with what you say; the truth would be the ideal conclusion. But what I’m saying is that whether it was a bad cop, a good cop making a bad decision or a good cop justifiably bringing down a violent, giant thug in self-defence, the MSM (BBC especially) will not accept any verdict short of blaming the policeman for deliberately murdering a harmless youth in cold blood just for the kicks!
I agree with you there on the BBC’s pre-disposition to pre-judge and blame the police.
I posted this on another topic, but it might be relevant here. It has been ‘alleged’ that the cop was injured. But most left wing blogs are censoring this suggestion – until one of them comes up with the suggestion that the cop slugged himself in the eye.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/
I have seen a similar report. The cop sustained a very nasty injury resulting in a broken eye socket.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/reports-officer-suffered-severe-eye-socket-fracture-altercation-michael-brown/
This alledges that Brown tried to get the officer’s gun and in the resulting fight, the officer sustained the facial injury. If this is correct, then it is remarkable that the officer managed to retain consciousness long enough to shoot Brown, and I am sure, that fearing for his own life, the officer had no other option but to shoot Brown.
Ken, the autopsy findings seem more to confirm the officer’s account than Brown’s accomplice’s. If Brown was hit in the head first, there is every likelihood he would have dropped immediately. There would have been no need for further shots. It’s more likely Brown was rushing forward and the officer shot to wound ( the arm shots). One of the witnesses has said that they thought Brown was on something because he didn’t go down straight away. If you listen to the video of the unwitting witness he says he heard the first shots and thought the cop had missed his target. The head shots came when there was no other alternative to stop Brown. If the officer had shot Brown in the arm AFTER he had fallen ( but why would he do that? ) the bullets would have been “through and through” and gone into the tarmac of the road. There’s a lot the mainstream media haven’t told us such as the cop alleges Brown slammed the truck door into him when he tried to get out of the vehicle, he then climbed in and struck him in the face before trying to grab for his gun. So it’s possible that the cop sustained some facial injury. Don’t forget what happened to George Zimmerman when we weren’t told about the injuries he sustained when Trayvon Martin assaulted him. The media even tried to lighten the video of Zimmerman being booked in at the cop shop in the hope to wash out the cuts and abrasions on his face.
If you look at the store video of the robbery Brown pushes the store keeper away when he confronts him in the doorway. Brown makes to walk away before returning to push the storekeeper into a shop display. It’s highly likely Brown tried to do the same thing with the cop. Got out of the police truck, started walking away before deciding to run back and give the cop some more fist. It’s obvious Brown was used to using his size to intimidate people. Problem for him is wasn’t a good idea for him kick off against an armed cop.
The more I have read about this incident, the more I am pursuaded that the cop shot Brown as he feared for his own life. Other cops corroberate the police version of events, (they would, wouldn’t they?), but then so does other evidence too.
My point is, I am trying to not instinctively jump to one side or the other, but let the evidence pursuade me. Theft from a convenience store is not a sufficiently egregious crime to warrant being executed. Assaulting a police officer is not a sufficiently agregious crime to warrant being executed.
Trying to grab the police officer’s gun and assulting that police officer, IS sufficiently agregious to warrant an officer shooting in self defence.
As I have said all along, I am not defending Brown and I utterly condemn the riots and crimes that his defenders are committing.
However, it is sadly true that whilst his defenders are jumping to conclusions and spreading lies about the police, it is also the case that police can and do lie to protect themselves as well. So I am treating all allegations with a big pinch of salt, from whichever side, unless backed up by corroborating evidence.
In this case, the more I am seeing of this, the more I am seeing the police version of events being the most likely.
Its Trayvon Martin all over again for the BBC. Everything is Whitey’s fault – get Jesse Jackson on speeddial !
Not a word about the constitutional impropriety of both Obama and Eric Holder the Attorney General trying to intervene. Their obvious aim is to gin up the base in the African-American community.
There may be one good point. All this is huge news in the US – and the majority of voters may take strong exception to rioting that may well be based on falsities. So Obama’s attempt to gin up his base may have the opposite effect – the mid-term elections are just weeks away.
Too many British tourists are being murdered by African Americans. The British should have rioted and burned down Kentucky Fried Chicken in protest.
A propos the question above regarding the picture of this guy – what’s the betting some rather more up-to-date pictures exist, on a certain database, with an appropriate numbering system prominent at the bottom of the pictures – showing both side and front views….
….as opposed to the usual coy, but youthful and manly, pose (with just a hint of a smile), photographs taken a few years ago, rustled up from oblivion on some long-dead medium, pretending to portray the guy on the day he died.
They really do think we are thick. (Mind you, far too many people actually believe this pap, fed to them by the MSM, on both sides of the Atlantic.)
Consent? Do behave, they know that they are right. Democracy? Only if you agree with them.
Nigeria.
INBBC fails to comprehend global jihad and impact of Islamic imperialism.
A corrective-
“Boko Haram on course to create an Islamic state in Nigeria, destroying Christian towns.”
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/boko.haram.on.course.to.create.an.islamic.state.in.nigeria.destroying.christian.towns/39745.htm?
Nigeria has enough on its plate with Ebola, but at least Ebola dies out after a few months. Radical Islam in its strains of al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and all the rest is the global cancer which kills far more victims.
Quote from BBC Online News today:
“”Officer Darren Wilson shot the teenager last week after reportedly stopping him for walking in the street””.
What does ‘reportedly’ mean? Who is the source? Why does this statement conflict with the facts? Why write it??
BBC News Link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28848753
“walking in the street” sounds totally innocent. How about “walking in the middle of the street” – that starts to raise questions.
Has the BBC ever mentioned that the “Gentle Giant” was allegedly high on drugs ?
Kenya.
Two basic, and poltically dangerous elements of INBBC political bias in the ‘report’ below:-
1.)
INBBC does NOT make clear that in its politically uncritical acceptance of a report by ‘Human Rights Watch'(HRW) against the Kenyan government, that INBBC is censoring that HRW is largely financed by political propagandist, George SOROS. (INBBC neglects to mention that he donated $100 million to HRW in 2011.)
2.)
In emphasising its criticism of the Kenya government’s resistance to the Islamic jihad murderers, INBBC deliberately relegates the ongoing massacres of Al Shabab in Kenya.
The dangerously biased, anonymous INBBC piece is here-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28836753
On Soros-
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
On Soros’s HRW-
http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/human_rights_watch_hrw_
On Islamic jihad Al Shabab in kenya, which INBBC relegates/censors-
http://www.jihadwatch.org/search_gcse?q=kenya
Thought this intersting “The Pacifica Foundation owns and operates Pacifica Radio, awash from its birth with the socialist-Marxist rhetoric of class warfare and anti-capitalism. ”
Is radio 5 live still re-broadcasting huge lumps of pacific radio ‘product’ late at night?
I’ve said it before: what the BBC broadcasts (esp on Radio 4) during the wee small hours every night would set the regs here into a rage. It’s pretty much wall-to-wall Socialist FM for a good five or six hours (presumably while nobody here is listening). It really beggars belief – I invite you to try listening to the BBC World Service some time. I’ve tried it a few times and each time I vow never to listen again.
But – hey – nice to see our license fee is being spent so responsibly on bringing news to all the world’s dark crevices (never mind about dear old Blighty). And just how many ‘special correspondents’ does the cursed Corporation have staffed around the world (at our expense)?
I now think the World Service could be closed down entirely with little loss to Britain – in fact probably a net gain. Let Al Jazeera and other broadcasters pay for anti-British/anti-West propaganda, why should we pay ?
You’re right. The World Service is possibly the most pernicious part of the BBC’s output (which, I realise, is saying something!).
Sadly, it is paid for separately by government (ie by us) and is used to present Britain as some kind of socialist multi-culti heaven.
Which, of course, is precisely what most BBC staff members (and most of the civil servants who are behind this scam) would dearly love to be the case.
With Parliament reduced to the importance of a local town council by our masters in the EU , you would have thought that a few Tory MPs casting around for something to do with their time might have raised a few questions about this Marxist scam but not a word.
The early morning news bulletins on the radio stations are the same. They obviously let the SWP work experience kids put them together. Then when the grown ups drag their arses in to work and have a listen, they think, “fark, we”ll never get away with that, better tone it down a little.”
Most media in the UK is highlighting the fall in inflation. BBC News is starting their economic news with the fact that rail fares will rise by 3.5%. They don’t often, when presenting that information, add to that the fact that rail faries are RPI + 1% anyway and have been for a decade.
Correct, as set by Labour. Let’s see if they give airtime to a shadow spokesman criticising this rise shall we?
Actually, the BBC beat everyone to the draw. This morning, before the announcement, it ran a press release from its masters in the Labour party criticising the fare increases in advance.
The BBC allows Labour to criticise the increases in rail fares without asking Labour where the money will come from if not from increased fares
The bBC is currently reporting on how one of the non-Islamic headteachers who was forced out of her job by the trojan horse affair in Birmingham has returned to her work.
‘Trojan Horse’ principal returns to Oldknow school
In light of a very real plot in which to enforce Islamist views onto children, where people who didn’t support those views were hounded out, you think the bBC would report kindly on the fact that one such victim has returned to work. Err no:
Shabina Bano, chair of the Oldknow Academy Parents’ Association, said parents would welcome Ms Kondal back because they wanted “stability as soon as possible”. But she added: “At the same time we want to know why she deserted parents. These questions have been left unanswered. “She has not been held to account. The governors have been made to resign.“”Has she come back because she wants to take the school forward or is she fulfilling a personal vendetta?”
Good to see the bBC defending Islamist policies in the UK, by continuing to character assassinate anybody who dares to expose the evil that is Radical Islam
Don’t normally watch BBC news but as I was home today I switched on the 1 O’clock News about 10 minutes in. Now one expects diversity on the BBC and for once leaving aside the content and bias, it was the presentation that had me looking out of the window to check I was still in Somerset, also checking I hadn’t selected Press TV or Al Jazeera, the first three and consecutive reports were as follows…
The economy – Presented by Kamal Ahmed
Prison Overcrowding – Sima Kotecha
Virginia – Ranjini Vaidyanathan
Watching this I was beginning to feel the minority! Add to this the majority of the rest of the show with an over feminised presence including the sport, it seems that positive discrimination and feminism has done its job at Al Beeb.
For the safety of my LCD screen I’ll try and avoid the 6 O’Clock bulletin as it’ll more than likely be presented by George Alagiah or Reeta Chakrabarti, followed by my local news presented by Sabet Choudhury. Now before the cry’s of ‘racist’ I’d like to point out that its not the people I have the problem with, its the principle…..
Dear Comrade Geoff,
It’s been brought to my attention by our Regional Cultural Awareness Commissar that you’ve expressed personal unhappiness with the Bolshevik Brainwashing Comintern’s ‘Diversity & Community Cohesion in Broadcasting Directives’.
Since this is a clear breach of existing Multicultural and Diversity statutes, you are hereby ordered to report to your local Town Hall for several ‘Diversity Awareness Re-Education’ sessions. Failure to report to said sessions will result in your immediate arrest, public shaming and social ostracisation.
PS: You may not appeal this decision and even if you do you will be roundly ignored and sneered at.
Have a nice day.
/sarc
“Failure to report to said sessions will result in your immediate arrest, public shaming and social ostracisation.”
Still better than what ISIS would have in store for us in their Islamic State Caliphate.
Every time the local BBC in our area appoints a new presenter she is from an ethnic minority. The fact I live in an area that is still predominantly white makes these appointments to order only too obvious. The only men have been there for years. This follows a period of appointing slightly older white women. I presume this is to fulfil whatever the latest diktat from above orders.
3% of the population, 60% of BBC staff.
File this under ‘It’s Not Raycist When We do It’:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/19/BBCs-Ting-Tong-Hypocrist
I was about to put on my ‘tobefair’. devil’s advocate steel helmet on and mount a defence of satire (a scene in ‘Priscilla Queen of the Desert’ being one of the funnier, close to home, near knuckle efforts in this regard), but then I read on… and discovered it was the BBC getting their frillies in a bunch about reference to a stereotype they authorised to broadcast.
Ooooo…k.
I think I can see why some of the more sensible, less embedded performers are starting to see the law of unintended consequences bearing down from stage left.
‘Priscilla Queen of the Desert’
To me, one of the best movies maid (Maid in reference to the ping pong ball scene)
Always show as the underdog to get sympathy. In this news item about the Sikhs, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28827133. In it they are the victims they were trafficed. No they wern’t, they are criminals, economic migrants who crossed our borders illegally. They were not held prisoners, kept to be used as slaves. Their realtives in Southhall are asking where they are, clearly they are in on this criminal conspiracy. When is the news going to be portrayed accurately.
Nice to see a Mail On Sunday magazine splash on Gameshow Nikki at the weekend there.
Spends all year slagging off the Daily Mail, then as soon as he needs to whore his shite TV series – there it is and its four million readers.
Reminds me when the Olympics were on and he did his whine-in about there being a McDonalds outlet at the Olympic park. Though, as with the Daily Mail, when he got a bit peckish – there it was and its 99p Egg McMuffins.
How I love the stench of rank hypocrisy in the morning.
I’m sure he feels in good company at the Mail, along with that 1970s style feminist bore, Jenni Murray.
Funny how the cozy-up to the Mail when the cheque is big enough, isn’t it?
Champagne socialists need to pay for the bubbly somehow…. and all the extra buns in Jenni’s case, one imagines.
Indeed, but one has to ask why the Daily Mail continues to pay them.
Is INBBC interested in reporting this racism and slavery in Islamic Libya?:-
“Libyan jihad militias press blacks into slavery”
http://pamelageller.com/2014/08/libyan-jihad-militias-press-blacks-slavery.html/
Will Beeboids mention this about links of Islamic State to Ferguson rioters?:-
“‘How is democracy treating you guys?’ Islamic ISIS militants taunt Ferguson protestors on social media”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728624/How-democracy-treating-guys-ISIS-militants-social-media-encourage-Ferguson-protesters-embrace-Islamic-extremism.html#ixzz3AqRfWDy8
Islamic terrorists inside Gaza break ceasefire by launching 3 missiles into Israel. Here is the bBC headlines reporting that fact:
bBC reports on a family brawl in Luton:
Luton ‘family punch-up’ leads to five arrests
Five people have been arrested after a town centre brawl described by one passer-by as “like something out of a Western”.
The fight, thought to involve up to 20 members of the same family, broke out in Castle Street, Luton at about 15:00 BST on Monday as shoppers looked on.
Typical “Luton” people .
How the bBC has become the propaganda merchant for Radical Islamic terrorism.
Over the past week Twitter has been deleting the Twitter accounts of ISIS, this is so to stop them using this social media outlet to impress and hopefully sow its seeds amongst impressionable western youngsters. Faced with this news blackout, what does the bBC do?
Why it knocks out an article telling the youth of today where ISIS has now set up shop.
Islamic State shifts to new platform after Twitter block
A sustained clampdown on the Twitter presence of Islamic State (IS) has forced the hardline jihadist group to explore less well-known social media platforms, setting up a string of accounts on the privacy-focused Diaspora. Since IS began a series of spectacular land-grabs in Iraq in June, a long list of Twitter accounts run by the group have been shut down – apparently in response to the widely-acknowledged success of its social media offensive. The Twitter squeeze reached its peak last week – coinciding with mounting international pressure on the group – when back-up IS accounts were being taken down almost as soon as they were being launched.
So the so called responsible bBC which refused to post pictures which may cause offence to Muslims, has no problem pointing wannabe jiahdists where to go in which to find death porn after the powers that be decided to do something about Radical Islamic social media propaganda.
The bBC, the propaganda mouthpiece for Islamic terrorism
This is who INBBC should be supporting:-
“Portraits of Brave People Defending Families, Homes from ISIS”
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/08/19/portraits-of-brave-people-defending-families-homes-from-isis/?singlepage=true
‘the so called responsible bBC which refused to post pictures which may cause offence to Muslims, has no problem pointing wannabe jiahdists where to go in which to find death porn’
They do take their information and education role in different ways often, do they not?
Guessing a period of quite reflection on why removing instant rallying systems may not be so awful if they get abused didn’t really occur?
Back to the good old days of the Newsnight anger and protest editorial and other iPhone warriors from the BBC essentially coordinating the next kick off.
Speaking of coordinating, and rallys, and kick-offs…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-28832294?
Can’t quite imagine what Ferguson or a UK Tesco may face in future if vast petro-funding started adding to ‘protest’ group CAIR-in-the-Community coffers seeking new outlets for their next outrage.
‘rallies tend to take place on Sundays and public holidays, when most people have time off.’
Not really an issue for most I have seen so far.
Diaspora? Am I alone in seeing the irony?
yep! is this 8th, or 9th, maybe 10th time Hamas Islamic terrorists, break ceasefire?
Anyway … Bibi calls back immediately peace brokers in Egypt
At the news Al BBC 5Live Chimp R Bacon, and some twat prattle on about the rockets only landing in a field? … no one injured?
back to Gobshite P Anderson and her new show ,,,
click!
And I bet that’s where the terrorists in Gaza were aiming to hit.
I mean, come on, helping the Israelis plough their fields after the harvest – what could be more peace-loving than that ?
/sarc (as if it was needed)
Unfortunately, I happened to hear some of the odious Jeremy Vine programme on Radio 2 yesterday as I flicked through the radio channels in my car.
The article they were just starting with was if the BBC had broken its own guidelines with the Sir Cliff Richard story.
And the time?. 1.37pm. The last twenty minutes of the programme.
I guess this shows how serious they are about investigating themselves……
Ah, but think of the pressure….
http://www.news-watch.co.uk/?q=content%2F‘we-were-under-pressure’-bleats-bbc-news-chief-sir-cliff-‘witch-hunt’
Now, as I recall, this was pretty much where they ended up (after exhausting all denial options before opting for excuse), ironically, over Savile.
Though of course then they were mostly competing internally. Supposedly, it was also a different time. Until the next.
Some may also feel these excuses really don’t cut the professional or integrity mustard anyway.
‘a carefully organised off-the-record briefing’
The 142…7…200 earning their keep well, then.
Hope Lord Pantone has a nice chat with the guys & gals in the inquiry… ‘but, but… we have shoe-horned diversos and wimmin and yoof in everywhere regardless of ability, so how this is happening is beyo… oh..’.
Will INBBC censor this as part of its political role in the Islam-‘left’ alliance?:-
“Hamas-CAIR Exploits Race Card in Ferguson to Further Divide, Destroy”
– See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/08/hamas-cair-exploits-race-card-ferguson-divide-destroy.html/#sthash.zPJm8Nev.dpuf
More radical Islamic propaganda from the bBC:
Caliphate? What an Islamic state means to British Muslims
“What we’re seeing being carried out against helpless civilians like the Yazidis and other groups isn’t what an Islamic state is about,” says Yasmin Khatun, a journalist from London.The 26-year-old is a Sunni Muslim – they make up the vast majority of UK Muslims.
And so the bbC asks 4 Sunni muslims (who lets not forget make up the majority of British Muslims and 2 non Sunni Muslims. (funny enough the 1 dissenting Sunni Muslim doesn’t cover up and the other two are seen as “Not Muslims” by the majority Sunni Islam.
Yasmin Khatun, 26, a journalist from London is a Sunni Muslim
Yasmin believes in the idea of a caliphate but says Isis have hijacked the concept through their use of violence against religious minorities. She believes the UK’s foreign policy has left some Muslims feeling isolated and seeking an alternative solution.”When you look at what’s happening in Syria and Gaza, there’s just this feeling that they will not protect Muslim civilians and, as a result, you have some Muslims who feel a caliphate would better protect and represent them.
Joy Ahmed, 27, works in banking, lives in south London and is a Sunni Muslim
“As Muslims we are under the microscope. Day by day there’s been an alienation of Muslims in the UK over issues like the hijab, halal meat, Muslim men being made out to be radicalised. “If there was a fully established caliphate it would provide somewhere for Muslims to call their own,” “I’m never going to say I hate Britain but at the same time, I’d like to have something that represents me, internally, spiritually, to be there as well.”
Saif Ul Islam, 31, is self-employed and was born Hindu but converted to Sunni Islam
Saif holds the view that would be considered the most extreme of this group – he supports the Islamic State caliphate despite their violence and thinks that the group’s leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a valid caliph.
BBC – Isis – what it means to be modern
Isis: A thoroughly modern caliphate – BBC
Caliphate: Searching for the Islamic State – BBC
Twitter / bbc asiannetwork: Debating on the caliphate now
traitors!
But Israel is perhaps a Jewish caliphate? A place where they feel safe? But the BBC would never extend this philosophy to Israel.
Oh, stop it. You’re being logical, rational and even-handed, fair-minded and thoughtful. You seem to believe that the same principles should apply to both or all sides. Just get a grip….
The same old same old – Muslim first, British second (if, in fact, at all).
The woman in that article, would be punished by death for opposing the Caliph. The next man would be punished for making his living from usury. The penalty would be death. He says he would like a place to call his own? An Islamic homeland? he could try Morocco, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Iran, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Yemen, Tajikistan, Iraq, Jordan, Mayotte, Turkey, Somalia, Azerbaijan, Maldives, Niger, Comoros, Algeria, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, Libya, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Senegal, Gambia, Egypt, Turkmenistan, Syria, Mali, Kosovo, Bangladesh, Kyrgyzstan, Oman, Kuwait, Guinea, Indonesia, Albania, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Malaysia, Lebanon, Burkina Faso, Kazakhstan, Chad, Brunei.
All those countries have more than 50% Muslim population. The first 32 of those have over 90% Muslim population. yet all these people want to deny Jews even ONE country to call home, and still insist on infiltrating and converting all the other countries that they move to (to avoid human rights abuses in the Islamic countries) into Islamic shitholes!
The last man (Saif) should be deported without delay. He supports acts which even the third Reichs would have been embarrased about.
Where are the progressive liberal demonstrators attacking his support for executing rape victims, executing homosexuals, executing atheists???
Can you imagine the “tone” of the reporting if his skin was white and he supported the exact same actions, but being done by the KKK instead?
The Liberal Progressive. An exercise in projecting their own vile prejudicial bigoted hatred, racism, sexism and homophobia, through the extremism of a politically correct protected minority from a different culture, so that they can sub-consiously express their own vile hatred in a politically correct fashion and still feel like they are enlightened, multicultural non-racists.
Such hypocricy is utterly sickening.
Ho ho ho. Yet again the BBC falls into a trap of its own making.
Here’s the BBC reporting a “gaffe” from UKIP.
“UKIP MEP Janice Atkinson uses ‘outrageous’ term for Thai woman”
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-28840210
BBC Southeast was positively hysterical with their outrage that the “ting tong” remark was made by a Ukip MEP.
BUT WHAT HAVE WE HERE?
“UKIP and the BBC’s ‘Ting Tong’ Hypocrisy
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/19/BBCs-Ting-Tong-Hypocrist
“However, the hypocrisy of the BBC never ceases to amaze. Yesterday BBCSouth East was outraged, outraged I tell you, by UKIP MEP Janice Atkinson calling the Thai wife of one of her party members “Ting Tong from somewhere”. They had recorded her saying it in an unguarded moment off camera. THIS article then appeared on the BBC website and is now all over social media.
Nowhere does the BBC acknowledge in the article that the term originated from …cue drum roll … a BBC TV comedy. So how is it acceptable for it to be used to make fun of Thai transsexuals on LITTLE BRITAIN, and yet when a UKIP politician uses it, the BBC goes into an orgy of attacking UKIP. They even produced Professor Tim Luckhurst on camera to allege that, well, if one of them says it, it’s likely they’d all say it. I ask you.”
And what name does this BBC “comedy” give to the Thai bride? Why, they call her Ting Tong Bacca Dang Dang.
You can see the offensive BBC comedy by going to the Breitbart link.
he was originally called tong ting until he was found out to be a man then became ting tong. My wife is Thai and isn’t offended. She is more offended by all the programmes that show Thai women only as brides for sale, like last night and that gormless Stacy Dooley who went to Thailand to investigate their drug problem and spent most of the programme crying at the victims. As if they hadn’t suffered enough.
Unfortunately Farage has walked into the trap and has made an apology for this perfectly harmless comment. I can see the election being dominated by Farage’s apologies in response to every piece of garbage highlighted by the BBC. Come on Nigel, nobody cares what the BBC say about UKIP
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/farage-apologises-over-ting-tong-162539911.html#5k1mrND
Stacy Dooley the textbook pouty middle class leftie
just look at her pictures on google images and it is the usual pathetic puppy dog eyes and her next to non-white people for her to look down on as she retreats every night to her white leafy suburb
No no no, you’ve got it all wrong !
The BBC used inverted commas around the ‘outrageous’ which protects them from all criticism
Apparently !
Sitting facing the corner with dunce’s cap on 🙂
Didn’t the Goons do that ? Sorry, that was Ying Tong Tiddle I Po.
Oh bloody good spot. Hypocrites all.
More ‘enrichment’ that the BBC don’t seem (or want?) to report.
“Abdul Hanif, 30, from Bradford found guilty of keeping a student as a sex slave for four months while repeatedly raping and beating her”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2728808/Student-kept-sex-slave-violent-McDonald-s-worker-cook-clean-tried-force-prostitution-pay-gambling-debts.html
at least she isn’t white and a Christian. His mistake, if it had have been he could continue with impunity
Amusing evolution of inflation news on Radio 2:
Early morning: Inflation is down
Later: Inflation low but rails fares up
Midday: Inflation causing rail fares to rise
Afternoon: rail fares going up, commuters and passenger groups complain. Hitting the poorest hardest. (no mention of inflation!)
Driving back BBC 5Live Drive … blatantly trumpets that
“Israel has continued with its bombing of Gaza” as a report header?. hmmm
Important piece of information seems to be inadvertently missing?
Something like …
As the third missile came in from Gaza, Netanyahu called back the peace brokers from Egypt … as a precursor to strikes on Islamic terrorist targets.
How could that happen eh!? wilfully mislead those who pay for you?
…. Hamas Islamic terrorists break ceasefire again? no good BBC?.
Amazingly the Political correctness enforcement squad formerly known as ‘The Police’, have managed to arrest someone in county Down and have charged him with causing the death of an Afghan Sikh found dead in a shipping container.
No one asks the question about the ease with which they appear to be able to locate and arrest the perpetrators when there’s a light of publicity and an ethnic involved. They don’t seem quite so motivated to arrest the people traffickers whose human payload survives.
Tried reporting a crime where an ethnic is involved recently? You will find yourself answering a barrage of questions trying to ascertain just how much of a racists you are – and you have to be if you’re white, and how much your reporting of the crime is motivated by your obvious racism !
The report on Sky said those arrested were Rumanian. So that’s more enrichment and vibrancy imported to G.B.
BBC radio 4 attacking the Tories over the number of holidays Scameron is taking and the fact his is tweeting selfies.
Apparently it’s unacceptable for him to be away when ‘British troops are in action’ although there was a lack of a location, and Iraq & Gaza are crisis zones requiring Parliament to be recalled.
Now I don’t like Cameron one little bit, and I’m sure there are plenty here who will agree with me, but it’s the bias that annoys me, and it would probably annoy me just as much if they just attacked Millipede (not that there’s much chance of that!)
It would appear to be quite an effective way to attack Cameron & his party. Politicians are well liked, and Cameron is not well advised tweeting silly pictures of himself. He makes himself an easy target !
Come to think of it, where is Millipede ? He’s been quiet these last few weeks.
Really? I hadn’t noticed the absence as anything other than usual!
He’s off playing a blinder.
As the whole thing goes pear shaped when he is seen, or speaks, or is quoted by the BBC for what he will say and then does, it seems to have sunk in that being invisible actually pays off big time.
The problems arise when stuff happens and colleagues comment, or they issue a brain fart all on their own, and then the BBC has to either go very quiet or issue an ‘what they meant was… oooo, look, Tories being mean!!!!’.
It does amaze me at how often the BBC have had to re-write labour’s talking points on the fly to make them more palatable. They never do that with the tories. They instead re-write tory talking points to make them less palatable.
Gaza’s infrastructure crippled by conflict
It takes a certain amount of ‘naivity’ to write about the loss of power in Gaza without mentioning Palestinian attacks on the Ashkelon power station in Israel that provides power to Gaza.
Electrical power plants are legitimate military targets in war, and have been attacked by U.S. and NATO forces in both Gulf Wars, and the air campaign over Serbia in 1999. In recent weeks Ukraine has shelled power facilities in separatist held territory. While some human rights groups quibbled about the particulars of these attacks, they did not meet with condemnation by other states, and the attacks on Belgrade were not cited as problematic by a ICTY inquiry.
Washington Post Does Israel have to provide power to Gaza
So Hamas has shot out their own power supply?
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
Not listened to much Radio 4 today – about 30 minutes, but I’ve heard in that time:
Justin Webb interviewing Jesse Jackson on the Michael Brown shooting. Jackson claims, as usual, blacks are oppressed and unemployment is ‘a weapon of mass destruction’. Webb is also eager to prove his 70s student union debating credentials: ‘I suppose you could say this all goes back to the original sin of slavery, which will take a long time to heal’.
Eddie Mair interviewing two left liberal progressives about the Brown case. The woman – and I’d guess she was black – drags in the Trayvon Martin case too and tells us these were innocent young boys just doing the nice family things innocent young boys do. Brown, she claimed, was doing what any other black youth does on a Sunday afternoon i.e. going to visit his grandmother, whilst Martin was returning from the local shop after going to buy sweets for his younger brother.
Any challenge from Mair? No – silence. And thus another nail of BBC narrative by proxy was successfully hammered into the coffin of impartial and informative journalism.
Then later, in discussion about wouldn’t it be a good idea to nationalise mobile phone networks, Mair quoted a Guardian article by that powerhouse of economic thinking, Owen Jones (you know, the one who can’t distinguish income from wealth).
Relentless biased shite.
had the same with Bonnie Greer (sp?) on Jeremy Vine show: given all the time she needed to spout tripe. Plus mention of posting their gangsta pics that police would publish if they got caught doing anything: quite the opposite, all pics are usually the innocent ones as in Trayvon martin, Stephen Lawrence etc.
” ‘I suppose you could say this all goes back to the original sin of slavery, which will take a long time to heal’.”
When are the BBC ever going to actually admit that slavery was NEVER a racial issue? That there were more white slaves than blacks? That slavery was a concept imported from the middle east and Asia, where it still takes place? That most blacks were first enslaved and sold into the slave trade by other superiour black tribes, and that it was the White westerner that ENDED the practice in the west?
what is up with these buck idiot bbc newsreaders on radio 5 live and the bbc, have they had orders not to use the word terrorist when describing these genocidal terrorists of isis in iraq and there hamas cousins in israel,what is it with this nice word militant that is used by bbc newsreaders to describe these terrorists.i hate and despise this word milltant and i wish bbc reporters and there journalist would stop using that word.just stop using that word bbc,stop it.
‘..what is it with this nice word militant’
This long running BBC joke crossed the border into the realm of farce today as their News Channel informed me that ‘IS Militants’ had clashed with Iraqi forces supported by ‘Shia Militants’.
Oh why oh why can’t the ‘Militants’ of the world sit down nicely and settle their differences more peacefully?
‘Militant’ conjures images of people like the ‘A’ Team, not the psychopathic, genocidal, bigoted, homophobic, misogynist religious nutjobs of IS, Boko Haram, Al Shabab etc.
Yet this is the word the BBC constantly uses in relation to these extreme Muslim terrorists. A perversion of language they should be ashamed of, but of course it fits perfectly with their sanitising multi-culti agenda.
There’s a plus side to this.
If ordinary folk get to view the vile savage acts carried out by those ‘miltants’ then it will redefine the word completely to mean just what they are. Where next for the liberal left’s lexicographers then?
In BBC world, militant = disgruntled.
Rather similar to militant trade unions of the past and 1980’s militant miners.
Almost the same as ‘rebels’. Those rebels against authority who seek fairness and enlightenment against unfair regimes such as ‘fatcher’ who by nature oppress the working class.
Such blinkered bigotry caused Syria’s Assad to be the bogey man whilst his opponents became militant freedom fighting insurgents. Who became ISIS. The rest is history. Putin got it right.
Well I feel rebellious, and I feel rather militant. I’m loading my AK47 as I type…
Except I don’t have one, and I believe in the ballot box. Is that why no-one is listening?
Yep, and William Vague and Dhimmi David Cameron wanted to help those cuddly rebels against Assad.
And for all we know, they probably did.
Wankers the pair of them.
Stonewall are Militants. The far left Unions in the 1980s were militants. ISIS are evil genocidal terrorists.
Why can’t the BBC understand the difference?
A lefty responds to a film reviewer’s criticism of his crap voice-over version of an Argentinian-Spanish football animation with an uncharacteristically vicious ad hominem attack (/sarc):
‘He described Robbie Collin, the Telegraph’s film critic, as a scourge of humanity on a par with Ebola, the conflict in Gaza, and Isis, now known as Islamic State…….
“Perhaps he just doesn’t like films? Working as a film reviewer must make him permanently furious, like someone allergic to cats working in a cattery,” Smith said.
Smith, 50, is a comedy writer who has contributed to BBC Radio 4’s The News Quiz and Dara O’Briain’s Science Club on BBC Two.
Collin had said: ‘“The Unbeatables, a half-Spanish, half-Argentinian cartoon about lead table footballers who come to life, is significantly less fun than playing with lead table footballers, or eating lead table footballers, or standing on lead table footballers in bare feet in the middle of the night while groping around for the light switch.”
Yesterday I noticed the anti-fracking brigade were given more BBC online anarchy promotion space, without any substantial counter view or proper facts included within the report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-28832520
Why our tax payer funded broadcaster should be upping the anti ‘anarchy view’ without taking the opportunity to properly inform the masses of the well supported counter view and facts about the issue, is so against what the BBC should be doing.
I found two great articles on the enormous benefits of fracking, which, if the BBC extracted from and included in the article, could have really balanced their report and at the same time possibly educated some people:
Well worth a read if one wants to understand the issue without fear or favour:
http://sciencefocus.com/feature/environment/science-fracking
Also see:
Click to access Ingenia43_Underground_Coal_June2010.pdf
If fracking means a reduced dependence on the Middle East for power, then it’s time to consider its advantages.
The USA has no problems with fracking and no protests.
Why?
Because the people who would normally complain are out rioting in St. Louis.
North West are constantly promoting the anti fracking brigade. I haven’t watched it in the last few days but they were giving them airtime last time I watched. They never seem to actually ask the “protesters”how the country is going to generate energy when there seem to be objections to almost every form of power generation.
Fine, they can be first to have their power cut off then.
The ant-frackers were on again Monday night on North West Tonight banging on about their cause. None have a job, most aren’t local in fact the organiser had a German accent! They might not get power to you when you need it but at least you can bet the trains will run on time.
Guido has an interesting shot at the yobs – Using gas for heating and cooking.
http://order-order.com/2014/08/19/hippies-using-gas-to-power-anti-gas-extraction-protest/
They all say “renewables” without any slight clue about how the physics of the “energy density of particles” make such an answer physically impossible to implement, and financialy impossible to afford.
Zainab Badawi (interestingly, named after Mohammed’s daughter in law whom he raped, but I digress) retailing the Fantasy Gaza Figures again, with some pathetic Norwegian dhimmi as her guest:
“…almost 2,000 people have been killed, nearly all of them innocent civilians”.
I suppose if they repeat it often enough, it will become true…
Truth is whatever the BBC and the liberal media say it is.
Only the bad and perverse will disagree with that.
I know this to be true because the BBC told me it is.
Unfortunately, ‘you’ and 99% of the British population, force-fed leftist propaganda 24/7.
The blog newenglishreview .org refers to this but in very much stronger terms basically accusing the BBC of deliberately lying. Please read it.
Strong stuff indeed.
Strange how the vast majority of those killed in Gaza are men of fighting age. Do Hamas not have any fighters anymore?
A development in the Michael Brown shooting in the USA.
Another black youth is shot dead by police at the same location. (A person of color as Obama would say). He attacked police with a knife.
http://news.sky.com/story/1321517/missouri-unrest-suspect-shot-dead-by-police
the left wing media are now licking their lips
I don’t know what’s more sickening in the BBC report, below… the grotesque animal cruelty or the BBC’s failure to put 2 + 2 together for those readers of a less culturally aware persuasion.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-28834632
The thing is, as soon as you’ve eaten one cat you still feel hungry
Cornel West on Missouri: “Obama reeks of political calculation not moral conviction” – Newsnight – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USc_LZeRYug&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
Rabble rouser black leader spouts bs, but Kirsty Wark lets his assumptions go unchallenged.
So how come these are “illegal ” immigrants http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-28857123 But the illegal migrants in the container are constantly referred to as immigrants?
Beeboids repeat a lot about a BLACK man being killed in Ferguson.
Beeboids didn’t tell us anything about a WHITE man killed in Woolwich.
Is the Beeboids’ emphasis on the BLACK colour of the killed man in Ferguson a response to appeal to their ‘leftist’ and black political alliance?
Is the Beeboids’ censorship on the WHITE colour of the killed man in Woolwich a response to appeal to their ‘leftist’ and Islamic political alliance?
Funny how the BBC are forever keen to air concerns of Muslims in this country for their ‘brothers and sisters’ in far-flung lands (typically The Middle East), concerns that arise from persecution by the West and Israel, we are told through their carefully-selected studio proxies.
Funny how the BBC are a bit reluctant to air the reality of Muslims in these lands being more than capable of destroying each other without the West’s or Israel’s help, a reality which could be used as a challenge to bring some much-needed balance to these one-sided studio ‘discussions’:
‘The traditional enemy of Hezbollah has been Israel. But the Shiite group is now also defending the Syrian regime and Lebanon’s borders from the Sunni Islamic State, stretching its resources…..
The party leadership is holding back experienced fighters specifically trained to fight Israel, such as anti-tank missile units and long-range rocket teams. But the organization now finds itself engaged in a war against ruthless Sunni militants from the rugged mountains of east Lebanon and across Syria to the borders of Iraq and Iran that is slowly transforming the way Hezbollah sees its military role.
With any luck they’ll cancel each other out.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2014/0818/Hezbollah-lowers-fighting-age-as-it-takes-on-Islamic-State-video
And a question for the BBC to ask one of these professional Moaning Muslims: how long before you start fighting each other here on the streets of the UK?
“FIGHTING TERROR WITH TERROR: LEBANON’S HEZBOLLAH KILLS TOP JIHADIST IN SYRIA”
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/19/Lebanons-Hezbollah-kills-top-jihadist-in-Syria–NGO
@RickLeventhal: incredible shot of 3 rockets launched at Israel from #Gaza, captured by @fingfotog …video at 6p @specialreport http://t.co/RdjQxmhbRj
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The picture with this tweet is rather remarkable, not least in making one wonder just what BBC reporters’ heads were rammed up to not see of hear such launches.
Oh, and in other news, it seems ISIS has been up to its usual standards of human depravation to keep its twitter audience worldwide in gore porn.
It is unclear if the BBC’s finest will be showing quite the extensive and united overt levels of protest for a fallen comrade as they have at other times.