It’s really quite dreadful turning the BBC News on at the moment. Their sheer hatred of Israel is just oozing through and frankly the State broadcaster is little more than an echo chamber for the Hamas publicity machine. From its refusal to call HAMAS terrorists – it much prefers “fighters” – through to its sly suggestion that Israel only kills women and children – the BBC stands indicted. I listened to TODAY at 7am and the first ten minutes were just sheer anti-Israeli propaganda – with the BBC delighting in playing John Kerry’s caustic comments against Israel. (It seems to surprise the BBC that the Obama regime is hostile to Israel). Lyse Douchet has rapidly become the new Jeremy Al Bowen, as she breathlessly trots around Gaza whilst never once finding Hamas terrorism in operation. i don’t know about you, but it seems to me that the BBC has firmly aligned itself with all the Jew-haters out there and is in this to ensure that Hamas win the propaganda war.
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Lyse Douchet has rapidly become the new Jeremy Al Bowen
What? She’s on a Low protein liquid diet as well. Hang on this is Gaza, High protein liquid diet. I mean have you seen a skinny Gazian?
Quite so.
Remarkably the author of this post which incorrectly attributes a video of Syria to Palestine:
http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=51919
N.B He has been made aware several times on twitter of his error (where he also used the video) yet done exactly nothing to correct it.
Is also the author of this post:
http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=51969
Luckily he is very clear about everyone’s responsibility to avoid the dissemination of this type of propaganda
‘@DVATW: @williamcrawley @tzofiya Those who retweet pictures of Israelis murdered by Hamas as if they are dead Palestinians hit a new moral low’
Absolute and total hypocrisy. Your wilful lies are despicable yet you seem to sleep pretty well at night. Congrats on hitting your new moral low.
@DVATW: Wonder why Palestinian kids get killed? Just look at this and ask why the media IGNORES these inconvenient truths. http://t.co/sd0KAJC43K
Some of over 20 replies
@ofer_n: @DVATW Hoax alert: Video showing “Hamas using children as human shields” is from Syria. http://t.co/2kmM9MwSEH
@johnvmhaddad: @DVATW Time to delete this tweet maybe? No? Well then, keep being a liar.
Yet tweet and blogpost remain. You cannot even claim to be mistaken anymore. How many of the 27 people who retweeted it forwarded it to others. How will they know it is false?
I will take no lectures on bias from a proven manipulator and liar.
I see the gay morality police are here, what with their penchant for political correctness and throwing position barbs. Go back to the Blue Oyster bar yer jug eared twat
Replace..Position
Insert… Poisonous
Lovely stuff.
Yes, Turtle Power, why can’t you leave poor Vance alone? Pointing out that he’s wrong is a “poisonous barb”. But “yer jug eared twat” – both milder than Pouince has used in the past, and also used in the mistaken belief that you are me – is somehow okay.
But Pounce is hardly known for level-headedness and accuracy, is he…
So you acknowledge that you are indeed, a ‘jug-eared twat’, Scott?
Who are we to argue.
Oh fuck off you tedious lonely expat.
Too true. For someone who doesn’t live in this country your endless empty whinging on this and other sites is tedious. I particularly enjoy your irony-free whinges about immigrants.
Guess life in France isn’t all it is cracked up to be, or else you would find something better to do with your so-called “life” than post multiple times a day across numerous sites moaning about a country you don’t even live in anymore.
On the contrary, I am enjoying myself hugely. Do I detect a little green-eye? Silly buggers, all three of you.
(For clarity, that would be Pichard Rinder [daft name for a start], smug-Scott, and the other one, who can’t manage a name).
“[daft name for a start]” – says the man who calls himself Old Goat and uses an image of some old git Photoshopped onto a goat.
“I am enjoying myself hugely.” Because all that is left in the remaining days that comprise the empty husk of your pointless existence is vomiting up bile and hatred to garner scraps of validation from your fellow travellers. And you think that is a life. I would pity you were you not so poisoned by your own hatred.
Old Goat – I’m certainly very used to ‘people’ (and I use that term in its loosest sense) using such a comment in a feeble attempt to sound superior. That it never works doesn’t ever seem to stop them using it.
It’s hardly the worst thing in the world, though. “Look! I’m pointing out a physical characteristic! I must be very very clever!” On the contrary – all you’ve shown is that you have sight, but no sense of decorum.
You make yourself a target for ridicule, Scotty, so inevitably it comes your way, daily, in spades.
Oh,no Scottie boy is like herpes……you just can’t get rid!!!! Surprised anybody still bothers to reply to the boring ar**hole. It’s better just to ignore him completely. DO NOT REPLY TO HIS POSTS! It only encourages him. If you must post something in reply just submit something like “ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ”
I mentioned in another thread that Scott used to haunt the “digital spy” forums too – so much so that they gave him his own thread, at which point he appeared to lose interest.
So – as a suggestion (DV, if you’re reading), why not give him his own thread (I suggest calling it “Scott’s Slot”, into which he can insert anything his pudgy little digits can manage).
We can then safely ignore his “look at me – why are you looking at me – you’re picking on me” repetitive diatribes.
I did think about making it a sticky thread, then had to reach for a bucket at the thought of Scott’s Slot being sticky…
…like herpes……you just can’t get rid!!!!
Well, I wouldn’t know. But thanks for once again demonstrating the level of debate that Biased BBC’s supposed moral guardians wallow in.
re: Disgusted of Essex:
I mentioned in another thread that Scott used to haunt the “digital spy” forums too – so much so that they gave him his own thread, at which point he appeared to lose interest.
None of that was true in the other thread, either. But hey – complete fictions designed to pretend that you’re morally superior? Check. Fake name that enables you to believe that you’re at liberty to talk bullshit with no responsibility? Check. Congratulations – you’ve won entry into the “Biased BBC Regulars” club, so the self-proclaimed moral guardians who decide what is and what isn’t trolling will decide that your fabrications and insults can go unquestioned. Go you. You take whatever little achievement you can find.
how queer
My goodness Scott, you’re actually managing to sound coherent and reasonable.
How is it that 1500 rockets fired into Israel by Hamas with little condemnation from the World? But one rocket fired by Ukraine separatist brings howells of anguish and threats of sanctions against those who might be responsible.
There must be appropriate condemnation of the Putinistas (if they indeed are the gulty ones) as this was a disgusting act and shows the world the type of person Putin is.
However, I agree that there should have been world-wide condemnation and strong sanctions against the Gazans while Hamas were firing rockets from there, unprovoked, into Israel. That is complete double-standards aka Israel-hatred aka anti-semitism (ie where Jewish lives are considered less than all others).
Unless you are a conspiracy theorist, almost certainly the shooting down of a passenger aircraft was a tragic mistake. Communications (if true) between the instigators and the people who arrived at the scene show confusion at what was found and what was expected and further communications seem to indicate that they thought they were shooting at a military transport plane.
Once the truth became known then quite simply they have panicked. Fearing (rightly) the opprobrium of the West for shooting down a civilian plane, their subsequent actions have merely raised that opprobrium.
With regards to rockets (600+) fired into Israel – well these are intentional and NOT aimed at military targets.
To be fair. Everyone can imagine themselves on that plane. Dying because your so-called government was storing munitions in a tunnel under your flat is a bit harder to visualise.
“Islamic Relief Worldwide programs staffed by Hamas”
http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/islamic-relief-worldwide-programs-staffed-by-hamas/
Islamic Relief Worldwide is extremely surprised and concerned by these allegations, and categorically denies any links with Hamas.
Islamic Relief Worldwide is one of the world’s most respected relief and development organisations. It receives support from various UN agencies including UNICEF, WFP, FAO, UNDP and UNHCR and other institutional donors such as the European Commission Humanitarian Office and numerous government aid donors.
Islamic Relief Worldwide’s aid programme in the Palestinian territories is one of the biggest apart from those of UN agencies. This ban, if confirmed, will have a significant impact on the life and well-being of those most in need not only in the West Bank but also in Gaza. We intend to do everything we can through all legal means available to carry on serving our 535,000 beneficiaries in both Palestinian territories – 80,000 in the West Bank and 455,000 in Gaza.
Islamic Relief Worldwide is regulated in the UK by the Charity Commission and has rigorous internal control and compliance systems in place to ensure we uphold our humanitarian principles of impartiality, independence and neutrality. This includes using one of the most robust and sophisticated screening software solutions available to screen every employee, contractor, supplier, local partner organisation and recipient of funds against over 540 national and international ‘watch lists’ of proscribed entities and individuals, including four Israeli lists. Our investment in this system reflects the seriousness of our commitment to fulfilling all our obligations under international regulations and standards, including our determination to ensure donations entrusted to us come from legitimate sources, and are spent only on those who require humanitarian assistance.
See our full statement here: http://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/news/statement-by-islamic-relief-on-operations-in-the-palestinian-territories/
Sorry, that statement is not immediately convincing. The UK Charity Commission is hardly a fierce and strict overseer of the probity of charities.
As you say, you operate a lot in Gaza. The claim against you appears to be (from the link in the previous comment) that you have field offices there that are run by Hamas people. Your statement does not deny that – and does not say how you stay clear of Hamas when we all know how intrusive Hamas is in everything that happens in Gaza. Nor do you comment on the charge that you are linked with the successor to the Holy Land Foundation that was prosecuted in the US for terrorism connections.
The statement looks far too general, not enough direct rebuttal of the specific charges that have been made.
Why shouldn’t it be true that Hamas have infiltrated an Islamic charity? After all, the Labour Party infiltrated its supporters into well known Western charities such as Oxfam and Save The Children to push its dogma and propaganda.
Our statement categorically denies links with Hamas. One would have thought that point clearly communicates, among other things, that our offices are not run by nor do they involve anybody from Hamas.
“Islamic Relief Worldwide is one of the world’s most respected relief and development organisations.”
And Rolf Harris was until recently one of the most respected entertainers. Didn’t mean much either as it turned out.
Your cheap shot means nothing, I’m afraid.
The ones who matter are the organisations and entities that continue to recognise, respect and fund Islamic Relief’s work, which is purely humanitarian.
Does Islamic Relief offer aid in any non-Muslim countries?
It’s an important question. Islamic Relief currently operates aid programmes in 32 countries around the world. We deliver aid to those who need it, regardless of race or religion. Two of our biggest international relief operations have been in Haiti and the Philippines after the earthquake of 2010 and the typhoon of 2013. The Muslim populations of both Haiti and the area of the Philippines worst affected by the typhoon are negligible.
If you operate in Gaza, you must have Hamas approval and collaboration. There is no other way. You cannot do anything in Gaza without their approval, and this includes not only you but also Lyse Doucet.
A comparison of how or who in this conflict react/treat ‘journalists’ either invited in, tolerated and/or under notional protection would be interesting, especially if tied to more (admittedly subjective) areas such as coverage (or lack of… the worse into ‘getting about right’ balance territory the BBC has suffered has been accusations of not covering every demo enough).
It seems remarkable to me that Israel maintains accreditation for some, even as Hamas lays out the welcome mat… for some reason. For now. How things progress should a Beeboid fail to tweet crowd-pleasers and stray into areas of professional integrity may be interesting.
Clearly we have consent to work in Gaza from the authorities and from the communities we support, or we would not be there. The same applies to other international NGOs and to the UN. But we categorically deny links with Hamas and there is no ‘collaboration’ with proscribed organisations.
“UNRWA gives Hamas rockets found in Gaza school back to Hamas”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/unrwa-gives-hamas-rockets-found-in-gaza-school-back-to-hamas
Be a shame if they had tracking devices added.
Maybe BBC Pulitzer junkies should avoid those secret location interviews to ‘understand their motivations’ for a wee while?
Agree with the comments on the bbc, but Sky & Ch4 just as bad now. Cannot watch Ch4 news anymore, no balance whatsoever, pro hamas & pro muslim.
Not just C4 – ITN also.
On “Today” Lyse emotes heavily in a disjointed report from a Gazan hospital. She witnesses “Oh god” children with bandaged legs. Sorry Lyse but my cynicism is so great that I need to hear about some irreversible mutilation before I believe that the “patient” is a casualty of war.
A girl ‘injured by shrapnel’ and featured in http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28275414 was also said, on the 10 o’clock news (11.vii.14) to have been “born after five rounds of IVF treatment” (1min 50sec into the clip).
I find it very revealing that, in an enclave touted by the BBC regularly as not having enough medical supplies, sufficient resources can be found for IVF treatment, which is most definitely not essential in any sense.
Of course they spotted the mistake and quickly covered it up. The clip on the article was cut down to one minute from three or so, presumably when the article was updated at 16:58 on 12th, some six hours after my posting of the item on biasedbbc.proboards.com. The start was the same, but the rest is missing.
Do they really need IVF in one of the most densely populated areas of the world? The same place where the BBC was touting a man who was worried for all his children and his 100 grandchildren.
Perhaps they meant “5 rounds of IDF ‘treatment'” killed her civilian family.
Suggest you try i24 for a better news service. http://www.i24news.tv/en/
I find that the daily LiveBlog on the Times of Israel site gives a very clear updating of news. About 20 bulletins on each day’s blog. “Just the facts, Ma’am”
Lyse Doucet asked a doctor “Why would Israel target a hospital?”.
Leading questions and pure bias: it’s in their DNA.
….but if she had asked anyone else, she might just have received the true response…. i.e. ‘Israel is targeting ammunition and arms dumps in Gaza, which Hamas has chosen to position in, near, or even under, civilian buildings and establishments, and the local people, presumably including any hospital(s), have chosen to live with that fact, despite the potential consequences.
Otherwise, I am sure the peace-loving Gazans would have been moaning in Doucet’s and Bowen’s ears long before now about this – after all the BBC has billeted loads of ‘reporters’ in Gaza for years now (or did they perhaps use hotels in a less dangerous place nearby, just dropping into Gaza for a chat now and then, and completely missed the outcry by all these Gazans about creating human shields for Hamas’ purposes) ?
Mr David Integrity Vance seems to be getting some attention elsewhere.
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/hoax-alert-video-showing-hamas-using-children-human-shields-syria
“While the user could not be traced back to any organized propaganda initiative, the Israeli government is currently supporting a massive online propaganda effort to justify its assault on Gaza.”
Nice sly connection their, he could get a job at the bBC. Well they’re certainly better at it than Hamas. And, not condoning it at all but cases of Hamas et al faking news etc is hardly rare.
Oh no not electric-infanta! dam we are all done for now !
Nice to see Scott runs to “Electronic Intifada” for his news sources! I don’t take lectures on integrity from Hamas apologists. BTW Scott – my twitter line has several PALLYWOOD instances of more deceit from the #freegaza scum. Please get your Arab pals to prove me wrong – on just one of them.
You should address your concerns to Turtle Power rather than me, since he was the one who’s pointed out your more egregious errors and gone into detail.
Ironic, really, since his claims were about you misattributing in the first place…
‘You should address your concerns to Turtle Power rather than me’
Then again, as admin he does have access to site info ‘bbbc regulars’ (as opposed to… irregulars? At least 11, apparently?) don’t.
If a mistake, hope TP’s not a lady.
Anyway, lucky Mr. Vance doesn’t operate a modding policy like that of the BBC, eh?
And as admin, he should be able to tell that TP and I are different people very easily. Just as he’ll be able to identify those Biased BBC regulars who do use multiple pseudonyms to pretend to be multiple people, as people like “stuart” have frequently done.
“Biased BBC regulars who do use multiple pseudonyms to pretend to be multiple people”
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I still seem to be having trouble getting folk who use the term ‘regular’ to clarify who is actually being referred to.
I do note that you have moved from pseudonymonous (given a few fellow posters do seem keen too, apparently now acceptable to you) to ‘multiples of’.
Presumably, given your history, more than two only are beyond the pale now?
Also accusing folk of being others is apparently no longer an example of paranoid conspiracy behaviour now you are embracing it so enthusiastically?
Certainly you seem a man of many standards. And shifting ones at that.
I am not Scott. I used to post with my twitter account linked but got tired of random abuse.
You are persisting with standing by an incorrectly labelled video despite it being brought to your attention countless times even after I challenged your integrity people on your other blog and on twitter are still ridiculing you for using the #pallywood hashtag despite being guilty of the exact same misdirection.
There can be no excuse for deliberately lying to forward your agenda but is made even more pathetic by the fact that you claim to oppose journalistic bias. You are a coward. This has now been made clear.
And here is unionist politician Gareth Coles after watching your forensically researched ‘Hamas’ video
@GarethCole_PUP: Just seen a disturbing video of Hamas using children as human shields, no older than 10-years-old, whilst firing rockets. IRA all over.
Should he be informed that he has been ‘had’?
Ironically you damage the very cause you so eagerly support by stealing credibility from true and verifiable reports from the scene. Such a shame you can accept no responsibility.
It’s amazing how much airtime the BBC devotes to ‘Palestinian’ victims and, for some mysterious reason, none ever seem to be Hamas terrorists.
And how little time they devote to the religious cleansing of Christians in areas throughout the Middle East, until now there are none in Mosul for the first time in 1800 years.
Whilst Arabs still choose to still live in Israel (as many did when the state was formed in 1948). Don’t hear much about that, do we?
And how little time they devote to giving proper historical context to the ‘Palestinian refugee camps’ and the ‘conflict’ in general because, as we know, there are just too many inconvenient truths that just might spoil their narrative.
I thought they were biased before the current spat kicked off, but they’ve escalated it to a whole new level.
Bastards.
It’s the standard blood libel trope much loved by Goebbels and now refined and made even more putrid by the BBC.
Remember Nuremburg.
@Scotty boy…
“None of that was true in the other thread, either. ”
Hmm, Digital Spy…
Hmm, Thread called “Scott Matthewman”
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=592182
So Scott, which one of us is lying?
A quote of yours…
“Oh. My. God.
I have my own thread on Digital Spy. My life is complete, and I can now truly die a happy man.”
A couple of quotes from one of your “fans”..
“Little things please little minds to my mind he is an arsehole”
“Because he is a joy sucker – a happiness destroyer – a little man”
Seems your arrogance and attitude isn’t just recognised by this site.
Oh, I’m SO glad you finally included a link to the thread you meant. Especially as it proves that the truth is exactly the opposite of what you suggest.
A couple of quotes from one of your “fans”..
Funny – you choose the only negative quotes in that whole thread. And then ignore the apology from the same poster.
In fact, that whole thread was a fun thread created by people who were following my weekly blogs about a TV show (Any Dream Will Do) that I was writing elsewhere as part of my job. Other people were linking from DS to those blog posts each week, and my major interaction with commenters was on the original blog posts.
You present that thread as if I “lost interest”, but you will note that I interacted on that thread, reciprocating with the same good nature that, save for the post you singled out, dominated. Far from losing interest, my interaction continued, as I say, on the original blog posts – and continues to this day, as I have met several commenters offline and some of them have become good friends.
Like Alan, like David Vance, you have deliberately misrepresented some content to the point of falsehood in order to support your shaky premise. I’m sure they will be proud that they’ve encouraged a commenter to follow in their footsteps, and sacrifice truth for the sake of attacking somebody you don’t seem to like very much.
Now let’s draw a line under what, if you have any sense of decency, ought to be a fairly embarrassing moment for you.
I repeat your previous statement..
“None of that was true in the other thread, either. ”
But you’ve just admitted it was true – you did have your own thread, and you’re no longer active therefore you lost interest.
So you were lying when you insisted ““None of that was true in the other thread, either. ” as it’s there, in black and white in front of your nose.
Scotty boy, just admit that your integrity has been challenged and found you to be less than honest, therefore why should you be believed when you insist you don’t work for the BBC etc? You’ve been caught out many times. Maybe it’s time for you to find another blog to haunt.
As far as choosing selective quotes, I just took a steer from your modus operandi – it’s not pleasant when it’s used against you is it?
you did have your own thread, and you’re no longer active therefore you lost interest.
Shock horror! A thread which was created in 2007 is no longer active! What a weird world you live in, if you think your summary of that thread is in any way honest or truthful.
You presented that thread as some sort of damning indictment against me: in fact, it was a light-hearted topic, started by some good-hearted people who enjoyed what I had been doing and were kind enough to show it.
You can try and twist it into some demonstration about why I’m a horrible person if you like. It won’t be true, and anybody who reads that thread will realise that your presentation of it is wholly dishonest. But of course there will be people who, just as they do when Alan and David Vance misrepresent BBC articles because telling the truth would threaten their own cause, ignore the source data and instead just go along with the demented falsehood.
As far as choosing selective quotes, I just took a steer from your modus operandi
Well at least that’s an admission, of sorts, that you misrepresented it deliberately. Even if your motives for doing so are highly suspect.
Honestly – if you’re going to suggest that I’m being dishonest, you ought to at least show some pretence of telling the truth yourself. Instead, you present a positive, fun thread as the exact opposite and then claim the moral high ground.
That’s so bone-headed, are you sure you’re not David Vance operating under a pseudonym?