START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD..

Alright folks, another week starts and here is where we NAIL the bias from the BBC. Please detail egregious instances of their serial bias but also have regard to libel laws! The floor is yours….

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  1. Alan Larocka says:

    First

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  2. Roland Deschain says:

    Well, I have at last received a reply to my complaint about UKIP, Romanians and Croyden being an “unsafe dump”. I think it’s worth posting in full here (except names!) because they have forgotten to put in the little paragraph about keeping it our little secret. 🙂 Or perhaps they have realised that the BBC charter doesn’t give an obligation to be impartial only if complainers tell no-one about their complaint.

    Dear Mr xxxxx
    Reference xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxx
    Thanks for contacting us.
    Please accept our apologies for the delay in our reply.
    I understand you had concerns with the accuracy of our reporting.
    The reference to Romanians carrying banners was changed once it came to our attention that they had agreed they were not Romanians on the news that night.
    Regarding your concerns with the quote, the quote we used that “Croydon is unsafe and a dump” was also reported elsewhere including ITV:
    http://www.itv.com/news/london/update/2014-05-20/croydon-is-unsafe-and-a-dump-says-ukip-candidate2/
    The Evening Standard:
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ukip-carnival-of-colour-descends-into-chaos-after-nigel-farage-noshow-9404864.html
    The Telegraph:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10844087/Nigel-Farage-feels-too-unsafe-to-attend-his-own-Ukip-carnival.html
    And the Daily Mail:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2633929/Ukip-scraps-carnival-prove-not-racist-steel-band-refuses-play-Love-Colour-sign-Farage-stays-away.html
    Please note the BBC is not responsible for external websites.
    Thank you again for contacting us, we value your feedback. All complaints are sent to senior management and our news teams every morning and we included your points in this overnight report. These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future content.
    Kind Regards
    Gemma McAleer
    BBC Complaints
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
    NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided.

    So, they’ve admitted that calling them Romanians was wrong and that it was corrected when it came to their attention. Of course, it’s too late by then because the wrong impression has been broadcast and they didn’t exactly go out their way to correct this impression. Has anyone seen a correction issued? Shouldn’t they have checked before broadcasting this “fact”? It’s not like the Hope Not Soap/UAF brigade aren’t well known for this sort of tactic. At best, it was naïve of the BBC to accept that at face value; at worst it was collusion.

    I’m not impressed with the defence of “unsafe dump”. According to the Guardian, the UKIP candidate Winston McKenzie said, “Croydon, which was once the place to be, the place to shop, has now become sadly a dump … How can you ask an international leader to turn up somewhere where he feels unsafe?” The defence seems to be, “Well, everyone else got it wrong so it doesn’t matter that we did”. Or perhaps it’s the Guardian that’s wrong, having made up a more extensive quote showing things in not such a bad light. Doesn’t seem likely to me. Or, but even more unlikely I think, Mr McKenzie said both. Irritatingly, the link to the Guardian which I gave the BBC no longer has that quote, but another story linked from there has the full wording, which makes me wonder whether I gave them the wrong link or whether they’ve changed the report. I’m pretty sure I double-checked it but have no way of knowing at this stage.

    Looking at the Evening Standard link, what they actually say is because the area is “unsafe” and a “dump”, Ukip’s local candidate claimed. Not quite the same, but one can begin to see a possibility that the rest of the media, barring the Guardian, ran with that in Chinese Whispers style. It doesn’t excuse the BBC doing so and presumably an organisation with the resources of the BBC has access to the original tapes and can tell categorically what Mr McKenzie said, not just what others say he said. I can’t help thinking there’s a good reason why, after 6 weeks, they didn’t do so.

    Anyway, I don’t feel like leaving it there, but would be interested in what others think.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘they have forgotten to put in the little paragraph about keeping it our little secret.’
      Interesting that this has been dropped. Maybe they twigged it wasn’t looking too good post Jimmy, Stu, Rolf, etc?
      One less BBC-unique non-legal ‘threat’ to mislead any with concerns.
      I have to wonder if they have ever sent a reply that does not have an insincere apology for a strategically created delay to allow a bunch of things to ‘evolve’ that once existed?

      ‘The reference to Romanians carrying banners was changed once it came to our attention that they had agreed they were not Romanians on the news that night.
      Quaint phrasing. One presumes if they had failed to agree with who they were, the BBC investigative system would have collapsed?
      ‘Regarding your concerns with the quote, the quote we used that “Croydon is unsafe and a dump” was also reported elsewhere including ITV’
      Including ITV, eh? Seems the BBC is proud to be joint first in the race to the bottom.
      I must just check how much I am compelled to pay ITV to mislead in the news.
      ‘All complaints are sent to senior management and our news teams every morning and we included your points in this overnight report.
      One is sure it is read avidly.
      Of course what does not happen is a log in public to show what has been accepted in error following complaint, making those stats Lord Pantone and acting-whitewasher Diane Coyle quote ad nauseam look as ever rosy on performance.
      What has happened here is it is in public and folk can compare the templates and excuses and very much see this as another BBC whopper caught and held up.
      No ‘we notice you haven’t kept schtum’ moans any more, at least.
      ‘This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided.’
      The number is good. The sending back to the webform ridiculous. The complaint is open and logged and ongoing. They are simply adding attrition and space limitations, as things will grow as they add more and more BS to pad out the blow off.
      Don’t leave it there.
      There’s enough to see how they handle being told their response is inadequate.
      And how the 300 defend the pass.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Well done for pursuing this, RD. What strikes me is this statement:

      ‘‘The reference to Romanians carrying banners was changed once it came to our attention that they had agreed they were not Romanians on the news that night.’

      In other words, it was pretty obvious to somebody – but not the BBC – that this crowd were not Romanians. So why didn’t the BBC, who were close, if not closest, to the action with their cameras and reporters (with their world-class investigative journalist reputation an’ all) rumble them? How long was it before the BBC found out and through what channels?

      The whole thing stinks of collusion and cover-up until overwhelming evidence forced their hand.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Agreed. It shouldn’t have needed to “come to their attention”. They should have asked the question before reporting. Assuming they didn’t know already, of course.

        The more I look at it the more annoyed I get. The other part of my complaint boils down to a simple question. Did Mr McK say “Croyden is unsafe and a dump” or not? They haven’t answered that, when it is inconceivable they don’t know exactly what he said. Instead they’ve answered a different question: “What did other news outlets say?” It’s a classic diversionary answer and I’m not leaving it there.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Gemma McAleer, that’s a new one, I thought Fraser Steel was the BBC’s chief left-wing mass immigration activist, while Colin Tregear was the BBC’s chief left-wing environmental activist.

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    • ROBERT JONES says:

      I had the same ‘don’t reply to this’ response from the BBC when I complained about the recent comedy regarding the murder of Lord Mountbatten.

      We are all busy people, and we shouldn’t have reply obstructions put in our way.

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      • Bendybus says:

        I don’t know why they simply don’t say:-

        “We have condescended to speak at you, and you should be grateful for that. Now shut up and go away, you pleb.”

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    • Dave666 says:

      So not exactly the reply I got on the same subject.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        No. Looks like I lost that bet. If I recall correctly, your complaint was about the broadcast whereas mine concentrated on the web page report. I suppose it’s easier for them to deny a broadcast, safe in the knowledge that you are unlikely to have access to it than to deny a web page which can be readily accessed.

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        • Dave666 says:

          True but I did also comment on the change in the web page. Still next time I know to record it although another lesson learned. Like politicians they do like to avoid certain questions. However I think exercises like this illustrate exactly how the BBc operate.

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    • thoughtful says:

      “So, they’ve admitted that calling them Romanians was wrong and that it was corrected when it came to their attention.”

      Oh no they haven’t ! You really have to pay attention to every word on the BBC complaints replies. They say:

      “The reference to Romanians carrying banners was changed once it came to our attention that they had agreed they were not Romanians on the news that night.”

      They don’t actually say when they first knew about it, but they didn’t change it until the United Association of Fascists agreed that they could.

      My question here is why they needed to get the agreement from the ‘Romanians’ before they felt they could change their webpage, and what would they have done, if they hadn’t agreed? Especially given that by that time the rest of the media had flagged it long ago.

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  3. George R says:

    Perhaps Islam Not BBC (INBBC) doesn’t want to run the following, in case British people are reminded that today is the 9th anniversary of the Islamic jihad massacres in London, 7 July 2005:-
    “UK Islamic State jihadi al-Britani threatens executions in Trafalgar Square”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/uk-islamic-state-jihadi-al-britani-threatens-executions-in-trafalgar-square/comment-page-1#comment-1085160

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  4. Alan Larocka says:

    52 families today are paying the price of ‘multiculturalism’ nine years on. Not to forget the 700 injured.

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    • Lynette says:

      People forget and especially without reminders but the BBC certainly isn’t going to remind them of this one in their slot on Radio 4 “it happened on this day”

         41 likes

    • Alan Larocka says:

      Then systematically having their faces rubbed in ‘nothing to do with Islam’ speeches and a complete and utter subjugation of our authorities across the board to the very vile evil theology that caused the death of their loved ones. I personally could not imagine anything worse, and these poor people must feel they are completely isolated and alone.

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    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      Yep…..never let these traitors forget it….if you see David ‘no upper limit on immigration’ Blunkett, look into the ugly bastards face, he was one of the arch exponents of this mess…..and will feel the results only too soon….harass him, no peace for the wretched, stupid man.

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  5. The Christian Crusader says:

    An apology is OK, then, is it?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28190227

    The headline as you see it on the main page before clicking on the link goes ‘…apologizes for Scots death.’ Oh, so he just apologizes for the Scottish man’s death?

    Up here in the land of the Wee Free, Gaelic mafia and Haggis pies, the YESNP and other nationalists have waxed lyrical about how the Muslim community in Scotland doesn’t take part in extremism… this kind of blows that out of the water.

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    • Turbo says:

      He has an odd version of responsibility…
      “I think that the British government is responsible for their deaths because it was not serious in the negotiations with the side that held them.”

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      An interesting definition for “apology”.

      “I’m sorry, but it was all your fault.”

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    • Guest Who says:

      Interesting equivalences at play, from the psycho PR dept. to the broadcaster of choice to faciliate their latest release.
      ‘The captors had wanted to use the men as part of a hostage exchange.’
      Funny how certain chaps in the ME seem to get careless with their guests. Lucky the BBC and its forensic interviewers are on hand to… let them explain further…
      ‘he had been in prison when Mr Moore and his team were taken.’
      As is well know, nothing can happen while the head honcho is banged up, especially signing off on atrocities. Probably more a whispering corridor job with a bit of astounding curiosity and selective Alzheimers to homage the recent BBC top floor capabilities.
      In matters of precedent, maybe Obomber’s Predator jockey brigade are missing a trick here.
      Each Hellfire should be followed up with a firework (like the ones the BBC and fellow apologists describe Hamas popping off in the spirit of celebration at Israeli schools) with the words ‘Whoops, sorry!’ inscribed along the tube.
      Thus any preceding carnage is easily excused to and thus by world media.
      Apparently ((c). Hislop. I)

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  6. Bangernofski says:

    BBC Radio London and Vanessa Feltz. All about her this morning. No call at all on the defacing of the 7/7 monument at all. It would be wall to wall Islamaphobia if someone had sprayed a Mosque last night. Disgraceful bias of the BBC and a radio station that no longer represents any normal Londoner, irrespective of colour and creed. Just metropolitan liberal elite, left wingers, Unite members and the religion of peace.

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  7. flexdream says:

    Following belatedly the press pack the BBC finally gets round to the 7/7 graffiti story.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28193157
    Maybe the BBC is under-resourced?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      If they catch anyone, it will be interesting to compare sentences with those who “attack mosques with strips of bacon”. The going rate for that seems to be 9-12 months.

      Which brought this to mind:

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      • Joshaw says:

        There should be an equivalent of Godwin’s Law for Monty Python. I certainly can’t watch anything Biblical without thinking of Life of Brian.

        More seriously, humour has the ability to keep things in perspective. A wicked bacon attack should be fair game for TV satirists. Fat chance!

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    • John Anderson says:

      I have still not heard a single word about the defacement on BBC radio. Most people do NOT get their news from the BBC website. And anyway, it is not on the front page of the website where there are 20 or more other headlines.

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      • John Anderson says:

        …..whereas the Sky news page has it as the top right headline with a photo/video link:

        http://news.sky.com/

        This looks like deliberate suppression of news by the BBC.

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      • Barlicker says:

        I’ve just watched BBC News from 14.00 to 14.30 and not even a brief, mealy-mouthed mention of it. They’re a fucking disgrace.

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        • Llareggub says:

          But wait until the anniversary of the glorious riots triggered by the death of a saint. BBC reporter returns to the vibrant communities affected and hears demands for more yoof clubs.

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          • chrisH says:

            Mark Duggan Day?
            A Wembley Stadium tribute to the life and times of Raoul Moaty( or Moaty as we have since come to call him).
            As for David Rathbone or Keith Blakelock?….clearly you don`t know who the BBC treasures-and who it despises…

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          • chrisH says:

            Mark Duggan Day?
            A Wembley Stadium tribute to the life and times of Raoul Moat( or Moaty as we have since come to call him).
            As for David Rathbone or Keith Blakelock?….clearly you don`t know who the BBC treasures-and who it despises…

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  8. Nodding Dog says:

    @DV re libel
    What? Like this you mean:
    chrisH says:June 9, 2014 at 4:16 pmOh come on, we all KNOW of Evan Davis` passion for football.When he thinks of Brazil, apparently he thinks of “street children” after other “s” words like samba and soccer.Today 6.50 am or so 9/6/14).As for that Amazon rainforest we`re expected to worry about the other 350 days of the year?…not a chance-Evan and Brazil were always fated to meet-because they`re both “worth it”!He`s put pictures up as well-I regard all this as incitement to rioting, seeing as we pay for that “s” word Davis to swan over to Sao Paolo..presumably to coo over a new houseboy or two whose visas he might help fix.   17 likes

    That was reported at the time and deemed acceptable so I am sceptical of your public pronouncements.

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    • chrisH says:

      Did you hear the piece?
      He actually said that “s” stood for street children along with samba and soccer…what the hell is the problem with that?
      He also has used his profile to try and get some Eastern European lad he met at a party a visa or such-employent or whatever….this will be on record.
      The rest is in your sordid mind-if he said it or did it, it`s not libel is it?

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  9. Ember2014 says:

    I wonder how many Beeboids’ jaws dropped when they heard that the paedo inquiry wasn’t just to be about those in the Thatcher cabinet but was to include the NHS and BBC?!

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    • Philip says:

      Keith Vaz (Labour) said today in Telegraph; ‘The disappearance of more than 100 documents relating to a potential political cover-up of child sex abuse in the 1980s is a loss “on an industrial scale”, according to the chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee…’
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10950940/Keith-Vaz-Home-Office-has-lost-paedophile-files-on-an-industrial-scale.html

      It may be just a coincidence but Keith Vaz….
      ‘is the Member of Parliament for Leicester East. He is has been Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee since July 2007 and a Privy Councillor since 2006. But back in 1982, when ‘Elm Guest House’ was raided, Keith Vaz was employed as a solicitor to Richmond upon Thames London Borough Council.

      Later, he became a senior solicitor to the London Borough of Islington. Both London Borough Council have been mired in paedophile scandals with accusations that councils staff were complicit in the child abuse, and that council officers and councillors paid off suspected child abusers rather than take evidence of criminal activity to the police.’
      http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/what-do-you-know-keith-vaz/
      Needless to say that this did include BBC celebrities of the time and certain nameless MP’s now quaking in their boots. The Police made no arrests at the time and deleted evidence. So who’s to know?

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    • Arthur Penney says:

      Pretty obvious that it would – the dossier must of necessity refer to acts in the past (relative to 1983 that is) – and we all know it takes several (often many) years before the abused can recover enough to make allegations.

      So the question is: why was a member of PIE given access to a specific room in Whitehall during the late 1970s to store documentation that would never be found by the police?

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    • Bodo says:

      True. Both Labour and the Beeb have shamelessly used this to attack the Tories.

      Hopefully any investigation will also look into BBC and Labour… Eg margaret Hodge whilst at Islington, and the reported senior Labour figures implicated in Operation Ore who bullied the police to drop the case.

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      • Ken says:

        And this needs to go as far as Scotland too, several Scottish MPs and MSPs and their justice system, including looking again at the Holly Grieg case and Dunblane.

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  10. George R says:

    ‘Telegraph’ (£), Adams cartoon today-

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/cartoon/

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  11. noggin says:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/4-innocent-muslims-memorial-to-77-jihad-victims-vandalized-hours-before-families-arrive-for-9th-anniversary-commemorations
    Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

    “Islamic supremacists, who gleefully treat those whom they hate as if they have no rights they are bound to respect, and set about to destroy their reputations with the most outrageous of libels, while heaping abuse upon them and then congratulating each other for their “tolerance” and “open-mindedness.”
    But if Britain continues the way it is going, this memorial is going to be demolished, anyway, and a monument to the perpetrators of the 7/7 jihad massacres erected in its place”

    just checked BBC news page again … looks like its now been relegated … mind you space much needed for this?
    … Polar bear ‘dragged boy from tent’ …
    so not surprising

    2682954/Memorial-7-7-bombing-victims-vandalised-just-hours-families-arrive-ninth-anniversary-commemorations.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/77-memorial-defaced-on-anniversary-of-2005-attacks-with-blair-lied-thousands-died-graffiti-9588326.html

    so ….
    23.324 terror attacks since 9/11,
    nearly 1000 killed or maimed this time, in 63 terror attacks and its only day 9 … soooo
    come on guys, keep quiet about harmless vandalism
    it is Ramadan after all … have some respect.

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    • Buggy says:

      Done with a stencil by the look of it, not really the sort of thing most of us carry about, so hardly a spur of the moment bit of vandalism.

      TBH I’m astonished there even IS a memorial for 7/7 in this wondrous modern realm of hand-wringing no offensiveness, bearing in mind the perpetrators membership of the ‘must be excused at all costs’ tribe.

      In all probability what this little episode will actually do is to set off a heated media debate about the memorial’s heinous singling out of ‘Mo’s Bros ‘N’ Hos’ for censure (even though it doesn’t) (“Why it’s all our fault that the ROP feels the need to wreck anything they don’t like”) and in short order some new motorway bridge will be supplied with four fresh girders whilst we all breathe a sigh of relief that tolerance has once again been victorious, even as the darkness creeps still closer.

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    • Framer says:

      BBC 6pm Radio 4 news mentioned this story but didn’t tell us what the vandalising statements consisted of!
      BTW all of R4’s trailers seem recently to be advertising ethnic or minority programmes.
      Am I just not hearing the others or is it a single diet we are being provided with, a form of ingenuous rubbing of listeners’ faces in diversity?

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    • Scronker says:

      I would leave that graffiti there for a while, so that every decent person can see the sort of scum are living amongst us all!

         3 likes

  12. Maturecheese says:

    Right I have just heard some talking head on BBC R5 saying that the NHS is going to cost around 30 billion more soon due to a rising population. The indigenous population is not rising so it must be due to immigrants and their birthrates. Now hang on a minute, aren’t we always told by these Lefty Liberal BBC types that immigrants are net contributors? If they are net contributors then why do we need to find another 30 billion? Net contributors my arse! They (the BBC) make it up as they go along.

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    • Bety Swollocks says:

      Totally correct, If they removed the non indigenous from my local Hospital, instead of a overcrowded waiting room there would be about 3 people waiting…thanks Liebour for unfettered immigration. The slimebags at the BBC shuld wake up and smell the coffee.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Trouble is, BS, they helped brew it.

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      • Dave666 says:

        I see a trailer for theNick Hewer & Margaret Mountford looking at “immigration”. I’d like to think this will be a fair and objective report but then the BBc doesn’t have a great track record on that do they? I do hope this isn’t going to be “the day the migrants went home” revisited http://www.atvtoday.co.uk/p52647-bbc/

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        • flexdream says:

          Nick Hewer lives in France I think. They are both financially secure. I admire them both. If they accept the BBC silver the report is predictable. If they are independent they will point out how EU borders keep out most non whites while mass immigration to rich countries does not help poor countries. The BBC can easily edit what’s broadcast to spin it.

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        • Dave S says:

          Some here can watch it and report back. I will not. It is going to be a liberal left predictable show.
          It cannot be otherwise. This is the BBC.
          Immigration being a good thing is one of the pillars of liberalism. BBC does not encourage deviancy from the liberal norm.
          Shall we say one of the seven pillars. No prizes for guessing the others.

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          • Dave S says:

            I meant to add. Two to one on it will concentrate on the economics of immigration to the exclusion of all else. it is the only argument the liberal has and should be dismissed without consideration.

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        • David Brims says:

          The programme is titled ” Immigration Gain or Drain.”

          When a Third World immigrant comes to this country, he automatically displaces the indigenous native Briton out of a council house, a hospital bed, a job, his children out of a school placing, etc etc.

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      • Barlicker says:

        The GP surgery I go, like many others, to has a free translation service in Urdu, Punjabi, Polish and I forget what else. Why do we insist on making it too easy for them? If people are going to be given free health care they should at least deign to learn enough of our language to ask for it themselves.

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        • Barlicker says:

          oops, I’ll try that again:
          The GP surgery I go to has, like many others, a free translation service in Urdu, Punjabi, Polish and I forget what else. Why do we insist on making it too easy for them? If people are going to be given free health care they should at least deign to learn enough of our language to ask for it themselves.

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  13. johnnythefish says:

    A. N. Other Scientist reports:

    ‘In its authoritative Fifth Assessment Report released last year, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change admitted that the computer models on which scientists base their projections say Antarctic ice should be in decline, not increasing.

    The report said: ‘There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979, due to… incomplete and competing scientific explanations for the causes of change.’

    Some scientists have suggested the Antarctic ice increase may itself be caused by global warming. But Professor Judith Curry, head of climate science at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, said the arguments were not convincing.

    She added: ‘We do not have a quantitative, predictive understanding of the rise in Antarctic sea ice extent.’

    She said it was becoming increasingly apparent that long-term cycles in ocean temperatures were responsible for a significant proportion of the ice decline in the Arctic – a process that may be starting to reverse.’

    http://www.thegwpf.org/climate-models-confounded-as-antarctic-sea-ice-hits-new-record-high/

    You there, Harrabin?

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  14. johnnythefish says:

    A. N. Other Scientist also discovers:

    It is a common argument that “all the land ice is melting, thereby causing sea ice to increase”. There is a very easy way to show this is nonsense.

    The one place where there is evidence of receding glaciers is the Antarctic Peninsula. As the map above shows, this is the one area where extent is below normal.

    Moreover, sea ice concentration is also below normal there, in contrast to most of the rest of the region, where it is substantially above normal.’

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  15. johnnythefish says:

    Much of the following article is about the new, improved editorial stance of the BBC on global warming – you know, yet more lies and censorship (as covered last week by Alan).

    But scroll down for the transcript of an interview on TWATO with a Gore disciple dressed up as on of BP’s former ‘green energy’ gurus.

    Then ask yourself whether BBC editorial policy on fracking needs some revision e.g. (unchallenged) ‘Well, we know from what’s going on in America that I don’t think “poison” is too strong a word, because in some cases you can actually light the water. Now I don’t think you would want to drink water which you can actually set alight.’

    Yep, that old chestnut, disproved and discredited by just about every authority in the States a long, long time ago but still kept alive at the BBC because, well, they can can’t they?

    http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2014/7/7/is-it-cos-hes-a-green.html

       26 likes

    • RJ says:

      There was a BP rep at the BBC’s “28 Gate” meeting.

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    • Phil Ford says:

      Yes, I heard that interview when it was actually broadcast the first time. I was staggered at the complete absence of any attempt to call out the BP ‘useful idiot’ for his moronic comments. Anyone who has taken even a peripheral interest in fracking should know by now that the tired ‘setting tap water alight’ meme has been thoroughly discredited by numerous commentators and real-world observations. Where it does happen, it has always happened, since long before fracking came to the area. It’s a naturally-occurring phenomenon that has been known about for quite literally decades.

      Shockingly poor reporting for the BBC.

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    • Phil Ford says:

      Yes, I heard that interview when it was actually broadcast the first time. I was staggered at the complete absence of any attempt to call out the BP ‘useful idiot’ for his moronic comments. Anyone who has taken even a peripheral interest in fracking should know by now that the tired ‘setting tap water alight’ meme has been thoroughly discredited by numerous commentators and real-world observations. Where it does happen, it has always happened, since long before fracking came to the area. It’s a naturally-occurring phenomenon that has been known about for quite literally decades.

      Shockingly poor reporting from the BBC.

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  16. thoughtful says:

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/takeaway-driver-jailed-sex-attack-7383676

    Funny the BBC isn’t reporting this, nor the incredibly light sentence – just 5 years for the abduction and rape of a 12 year old, but then as one of the states brown eyed boys, he’s subject to a different set of sentencing guidelines to the rest of us.

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  17. deegee says:

    How many rockets make up a salvo or a volley?

    Israel hit by Hamas rocket salvo
    The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas has fired a volley of rockets into southern Israel following a series of air strikes by Israeli forces.
    Israel has been hit by more than 200 rockets and mortars in the last five weeks. Hamas claims the figure is dozens but in typical BBC fashion that titbit is placed six paragraphs down.

    Does either classify as a salvo or a volley?

    The first/last reporting and the Israel said ‘the air strikes against Gaza are in response to rocket attacks’ are par for the BBC course.

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    • thoughtful says:

      Well to my mind a volley is greater number than a salvo:

      “simultaneous discharge of a number of missile weapons ”

      Salvo:

      “concentrated fire from many weapons, as in a naval battle”

      It does also appear to mean the simultaneous discharge of many weapons. It can be a salute, its etymology is from the Italian from Salutation.
      I don’t think the Palestinians were intending the rockets as a salute somehow!

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      • hadda says:

        “I don’t think the Palestinians were intending the rockets as a salute somehow!”

        Except of the two-fingered variety.

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      • pah says:

        I’d have gone with:

        Volley: unaimed fire in the general direction of the enemy.

        Salvo: The firing of multiple weapons.

        One is directional the other is quantitative.

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  18. deegee says:

    #BBCtrending: Are #GazaUnderAttack images accurate?

    No they are not but since when has fact-checking deterred the BBC from spreading a libel against Israel as fact?

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  19. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    Well well, Bbc breakfast, Billy Bullshit has changed his wording regarding tensions over the murder of the Palestinian.
    He’s now reading his autocue which includes:
    Tensions are high following the murders of three Israelis and a Palestinian.
    Yesterday morning the tensions only followed a dead Palestinian.
    I wonder why the bbc version changed.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Have to amend the words to a more accurate quote:
      ‘ three young Isrselis and a Palestinian teenager’
      Sorry about bad quote above.

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  20. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC News – search…..

    Sorry, there are no results for ‘zydrunas laurinavicius’ in the category ‘News’.

    Select from the options on the left to broaden your search.
    Did you mean

    A Bit of Fry and Laurie
    Lauren Laverne
    Laurence Sterne
    Laura Davies
    Laura Dern
    Laura Diaz
    John Laurie
    Laura Ashley
    Laura Bush
    Laura Dekker

    No, BBC, all very interesting stories I’m sure, but I meant this story – which is in the NEWS :

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/man-wanted-in-connection-with-hendon-killing-arrested-at-heathrow-9588638.html

    ‘Man wanted in connection with Hendon killing arrested at Heathrow’

    ‘A suspect wanted in connection with the murder of a builder stabbed to death in front of terrified schoolchildren was arrested at Heathrow airport, police said today.

    The 23-year-old, from east London, was today being questioned over the killing of 38-year-old Zydrunas Laurinavicius after reportedly trying to flee the country on a flight to Egypt on Sunday.

    Police have renewed calls for witnesses or footage of the “terrifying” killing of the father in front of parents on the school run.

    Mr Laurinavicius, a Lithuanian builder also living in east London, was walking along Parson Street in Hendon, north London, with his father when a gang jumped the pair.

    He refused to hand over his bag and was reportedly stabbed in the chest and arm in front of his father during the incident at 4.45pm on Thursday.

    Scotland Yard previously charged Terae Eusebe, 20, an IT engineer of Newham, with murder. A 19-year-old man and two girls, aged 16 and 17, have been bailed until September.’

    Then search the BBC for the name of the previously arrested man and you get this snippet of a report under BBC London dated 6th July :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28182996

    ‘The victim, a Lithuanian who is yet to be formally named’

    I take it that the BBC has lost interest? Odd.

    Wht do we find no “hard working family man comes to Britain ‘for a better life’ only to be struck down the streets”

    – is this not the usual cue for a long and emotional BBC report? Legal restrictions pending of course – although the left-leaning Evening Standard seems to manage the legal minefield just fine.

    Or is it that our state broadcaster BBC has another more sinister secret agenda with this category of event – something along the lines of “let’s go easy on stories touching on inter-migrant violence”, ‘community cohesion’ and all that doncha know….

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  21. Joshaw says:

    Seems like Lenny Henry will not need to visit the job centre after all:

    BBC’s new wildlife presenter rejects scientific approach of Sir David Attenborough

    “Instead, Wendy Darke announced that the unit will seek “diverse”, populist presenters on the same wavelength as the audience.

    Its newest recruit, Lucy Cooke, an Oxford zoology graduate, has said she aims to bring entertainment and humour to her role, in an attempt to convey her message to as wide an audience as possible.

    Cooke, who said she “always thought that you could bring a bit more entertainment to natural history”, added that she intended to use humour to “sugar coat the bitter pill” of her conservation message.”

    Down and down it goes.

       34 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘“Instead, Wendy Darke announced that the unit will seek “diverse”, populist presenters on the same wavelength as the audience.’

      ‘Scuse the French, but ever felt like screaming ‘fucking, fucking hell!’ at the top of your voice? I just did.

      And you bet Lucy Effing Cooke didn’t get her Oxford zoology degree by watching programmes like what she want to make.

      Yet another grave-spinning moment for Reith.

         30 likes

      • Old Goat says:

        Yes, I think Lord Reith is quite dizzy, by now.

        Not that I’m particularly enamoured with David Attenborough – I suspect he’d prefer it if we were all dead.

        And Lenny Henry would be a good choice as presenter, wouldn’t it – after all, they want more “ethnic minorities” to visit the countryside – he only has to set up his Premier Inns bed in a field somewhere, and they’ll flock to see him, and dwell upon his wise, rustic and pastoral words…

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      • Joshaw says:

        “ever felt like screaming ‘fucking, fucking hell!’ at the top of your voice?”

        YES. That’s why I avoid obvious risks like QT. If there’s something on QT I particularly want to see, like a flying pig, I try to pick it up later.

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      • Disgusted of Essex says:

        It’s a deliberate ploy by the BBC to enhance their green credentials. They’ve got Reith’s body rigged up to an alternator – the more it spins, the more electricity they produce from a ‘renewable’ source.

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        • DownBoy says:

          ‘Ms Darke has said she is developing a range of presenters to work on BBC wildlife programmes, stressing the “need to continue to innovate and diversify”.

          She added: “That includes offering a more diverse range of presenters and programme styles and formats that have relevance to people’s lives.

          “Often people who don’t come from a biological degree background ask questions that the audience would ask. I’m a real believer in having a mixture of ‘ologies’ in terms of expertise.”

          She added: “Raw passion is important, as is an ability to talk knowledgeably about the subject. For me, it’s almost about looking into somebody’s eyes and asking, ‘Am I engaged by what you’re telling me?’ ”
          AAARRRGHH please can we get a grip on this bunch of useless fools. A responsible organisation would sack her right now!

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          • Simon says:

            Where do they get these people from?? I honestly have never met anyone who speaks or thinks like that but the BBC seem to have a factory somewhere where they get them off of the production line (actually that factory is probably called university…)

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    • DJ says:

      Is that just typical BBC or what?

      They’re on a diversity kick, pushing ‘non-traditional’ presenters who are down wid da kids and so they hire….. an Oxbridge chick.

      Finally! The elite upper middle class will have a voice on the BBC.

         20 likes

      • RJ says:

        To be fair – I always enjoyed Johnny Morris and his funny voices. And he never pushed Global Warming propaganda.

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  22. Big Dick says:

    Just to lighten up a bit & to celebrate English Anglo Saxon Culture , with a huge dollop of French Culture. We went to the Tour de France Stage 3 , yesterday ,as it passed through Essex .We went to the most beautiful English village in North Essex , Finchingfield ,about 10 miles from home. 3 pubs , no drunks , no druggies , everyone hideously English , Morris Dancers , beer & Pimms tent ,no effnicks ,everyone having a brilliant time , & a fantastic event . It took me back to a different time & era when I first went there, in the 60`s, as a little boy .The Indigenous English & French who organised it, did something kind of special . Something the evil al-bbc obviously hate .

       45 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Tho the two commentators needed to bone up their geography of London a tad.

      Managed to conflate City of London with City of Westminster, mistook Tower Bridge for the Tower of London, and described the Square Mile as having been…

      ‘a desolate waste land just twenty years ago’.

      Stick to cycling lads.

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      • David Brims says:

        ” Described London as a desolate wasteland.”

        I think the commentators were kind of accurate !!

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        • David Brims says:

          Norman Mailer quote ” London is like an old woman who’s had 40 face lifts.”

             7 likes

          • Joshaw says:

            A bit rich for a New Yorker.

            15m international visitors a year, more than Paris and far more than New York, clearly don’t think so.

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        • Buggy says:

          The cable car was a new one on me: don’t remember seeing anything about that being built in the papers. But what a ruddy strange place put it ! Rather than the sweeping views of the majestic Alps, Pyrenees etc usually associated with this sort of thing, you’re instead presented with a tasty panorama of light industrial units, building work and east London-y/Essex-y wasteland. I bet they’re fighting off the punters for trips on the thing now we’ve all got a dekko at it. 😉

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    • Doyle says:

      Funny how le Tour didn’t go through Bradford(istan) or some other enriched northern shithole. Maybe, the organisers weren’t that keen on showing something that looked like down-town Karachi with people dressed in nappies barking at the moon. Seems the world wants to see old England, you know, like that old Warburton’s advert … unfortunately, this generation of politicians have been doing their best to destroy it so that we become an amorphous blob of humanity … they call it multiculturalism. Gawd knows what tourists think of this dump. Who the fuck wants to see Pakistan in England apart from the liberals, the politicians and the Parki’s themselves. Certainly, not the Tour-de-France.

         47 likes

      • Joshaw says:

        Funnily enough, if you’re thinking of the “Northern” Hovis advert, it was actually shot in Shaftesbury, Dorset. Looks as if it should be in the North, but it isn’t.

        Absolutely right about old England and Bradford though.

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        • Big Dick says:

          Yeah , it was the Hovis ad shot ,Shaftesbury Dorset .The houses were thatched unlike , the streets in Haworth or other Yorkshire mill towns it was supposed to represent.

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      • David Brims says:

        ”Funny how le Tour didn’t go through Bradford(istan) or some other enriched northern shithole.”

        Me too, I was waiting to see Abu Bradford, although they did visit Timbuktu/ London

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      • David Brims says:

        ”this generation of politicians have been doing their best to destroy it so that we become an amorphous blob of humanity.”

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      • Dave S says:

        Virtually every public event outside of that place London( and even most of those) is noteworthy for the complete lack of ethnic minorities. It is as if they do not exist
        Multiculturalism is a dreadful charade. Separateculturalism more like. This bodes ill for the future. It is a reality despite the media’s pathetic attempts to disguise this truth.
        It needs to be faced up to and debated.
        On the BBC? Never in a million years.

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      • Doyle says:

        @Joshaw, yeah, the Hovis advert first broadcast in 1973 when I was, er, still in my mum’s body (I was born in Dec 1973) so I have an excuse for getting that one wrong. I knew about Dorset though because someone in my local was born there. The point was that old advert portrayed old England … people, especially abroad, don’t want to see a multicultural England, they want to see an England England. If they’d wanted to see a multi-culti Albion, they’d have raced through Keighley, Dewsbury, Bradford, Leeds, Sheffield, Doncaster, Rotherham etc etc … not sure the locals would like it though, they don’t like it when you go through ‘their’ neighbourhoods.
        I’ve always wondered what tourists (especially Americans) think of this place. They may have a quaint view of bowler hatted, briefcase carrying, train-travelling, tea drinking Brits … what they get is black muggers who’ll stab you to death for a bag or muslim nut-jobs who’ll attack you for drinking alcohol in ‘their’ area. Ahhh, the joys of multiculturalism.

           17 likes

        • Buggy says:

          Before one of the cherry vultures descends I’d better point out that the Tour did go through Keighley on Sunday. And finished in Sheffield.

             4 likes

        • David Brims says:

          ”what they get is black muggers who’ll stab you to death for a bag.”

          Usually it’s even less significant, like a paper clip or a cigarette lighter or they were just bored.

          https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BLACK+STANGLING+LONDON+BUS

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        • Dave S says:

          Thankfully old England is still there. Shaftesbury is much the same .South Molton is as English a market town as you will find. Lynton is as it was generations ago. There are many more. What we must do is make sure these places and the others survive. They will have to be where old England can begin to rebuild itself. Let the liberals think old England is just a theme park. It is much much more than that. Forget London. It is lost. Leave it to the liberals and the rest. If and when England splits apart make sure you and yours are where you need to be. Remember if this happens then it is not your doing but the doing of those who had no care for England and no loyalty. An ancient people do not just give up.

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  23. AsISeeIt says:

    No names, no pack drill

    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/257300.html

    [‘No names, no pack-drill’ is used to indicate that the names of those who have committed a misdemeanour will not be mentioned in order to spare them punishment]

    Amid much speculative excitement about supposed ‘scandals’ around what’s referred to as ‘Westminster’ BBC News Channel bring me a brief report on a current and well established political misdemeanour

    But the ministerial sacking in Wales has no party affiliation on BBC TV news.

    Wiki helps me out

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alun_Davies_%28politician%29

    ‘Thomas Alun Rhys Davies (born 12 February 1964) is a Welsh Labour Co-operative politician…. He was chosen as first on the Labour Party list for ‘top-up’ seats from the Mid and West Wales region… On July 8, 2014 he was dismissed as Minister for Natural Resources and Food for breaking the Ministerial Code’

    Thanks Wiki.

    Must be some lapse in autocue editing at the BBC?

    I look at the BBC Wales on-line report

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-28206154

    ‘Environment Minister Alun Davies has been sacked from the Welsh government for “unacceptable” behaviour.’

    Page search for “Labour” and …. nothing found.

    There is this :

    ‘Mr Davies was sacked after it emerged he had asked for details of farm subsidies paid to opposition AMs, including Welsh Conservative leader Andrew RT Davies and Welsh Liberal Democrat leader Kirsty Williams. He also asked for information on payments to the Conservative AM Antoinette Sandbach, Liberal Democrat William Powell and Plaid Cymru’s Llyr Gruffydd. ‘

    So by a process of elimination…. he doesn’t like the Conservatives, Lib Dems or Plaid… could he be Labour?

    I’m no expert on Welsh affairs, whatever. I don’t know, he might have been a Green – isn’t it.

    I

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  24. Alex says:

    It really irritates me when the BBC go out of their way to remind us all that the jihadi scumbags who have gone off to find their beloved jihad that they are ‘British’. They are ot British and never will or could be. They might have been born here but they hate this country and everything we stand for, therefore they don’t belong here. The sooner the sandal-wearing BBC snobs realise this the better.

       57 likes

    • Merched Becca says:

      Well, there is an old saying down in Wild Wales -‘ If a dog is born in a stable it doesn’t make him a horse’.
      If they do claim to be British, then they would be committing treason.

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  25. Thatcher Revolutionary says:

    Breathlessly reporting at lunchtime news about 2 returning Jihaddis arrested in January on way back from Syria and about to be sentenced.
    Why the fuck were they let back in?
    What weapons were in their luggage?
    Endangering other passengers on the same plane?
    Boarding at Turkey so the security check will have been Muz-friendly, probably strip searching white 80 years olds and letting this scum wander through with AK47’s.
    Burn the passports and deport them back to Syria !

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  26. Alex says:

    The BBC (and Sky it has to be said) are still propagating this hopelessly naive narrative that those who’ve left to fight jihad are in the minority and that those communities in which they’ve lived are genuinely shocked, having done all they can to steer these young Muslims from Islamic extremism. One ‘community member’ (a term the BBC enjoys and is accustomed to using) says that ‘we shouldn’t get carried away’ as only about five hundred have gone abroad to fight the Jihadi cause… well, how patronising of the BBC to give platform for this infantile guff. I think , judging on the evidence – most significantly since 9/11, the problem of Muslim extremism is simply out of control and that, worryingly, the Establishment is burying its head in the sand. The media, however, is wilfully fuelling this rise of Islamic fascism through their censorship, grovelling and bias.

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    • Alex says:

      The breadth of the problem is beyond calculation as, like guerilla-type warfare, the Islamic warrior pursues his/her cause at first from a largely underground position in the context of a supportive network… they then attack at a time of their choosing which, presently, can only be monitored and foiled by the security services. However, with numbers and logistics in mind, the services can only counteract within the constraints of resources. There will come a time when the Jihadist will outnumber those who are equipped to thwart them. That time is near I fear!

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684590/London-born-student-tried-smuggle-20-000-euros-inside-underwear-fund-jihadists-fighting-Syria.html

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    • Ken says:

      Actually the latest figure is about 1200 of them, but whatever, that is clearly a very small percentage of the total number of peaceful integrated Muslims, which I think is about 4 million or so… Or at least, that is what they want us to believe.

      Then when you consider that out of a total British population of over 60 million, fewer people have volunteered to join the Territorial Army, than there have been volunteers to fight Jihad? Then you see we have a far greater proportion of violent, hateful Muslims in this country, than we have people willing to sign up to defend our own land.

      What a very sad state of affairs.

         19 likes

      • RJ says:

        Would you sign up to risk your life to give Cameron a photo opportunity?

           3 likes

        • pah says:

          No, but if I was young enough I’d serve my family, community and people to protect them from Johnny Foreigner, should he turn uppity again.

          England and the English are worth it, even today.

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      • flexdream says:

        How many Muslims have volunteered for the British Army?
        Odd that under the Empire, which was undemocratic and racist, Muslim subjects in India and Pakistan seemed happy to volunteer and fight for Britain. Now it seems that it is the children of Pakistani Muslim immigrants (not their parents) who have grown up in multi-cultural ‘liberal’ Britain who are most likely to go fight jihad. Who can explain the apparent lack of traction of a modern British sense of identity? Oh wait .. I know ..

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  27. Leha says:

    looks like a deliberate targeting by the militant ghey lobby

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28206581

    a business not “on message” .

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  28. john says:

    Interesting to note that even though cameron and the beancounter are in India there was nothing from the Islamic broadcasting co about this high court declaration on the supremecy of Indian law above supposed sharia law.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/indias-supreme-court-islamic-courts-have-no-legal-authority-in-india?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=0e7818d518-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-0e7818d518-123489725

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    • Pounce says:

      I watched that video report from the bBC’s Yolande Knell:
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28210654
      And while the bBC are playing the ‘Hamas can only be a victim card’ I thought why is it Hamas can smuggle in thousands of military grade missiles (400 fired over the weekend alone) Yet not only don’t purchase any medicines , but smuggle them in also.

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  29. George R says:

    -Don’t expect INBBC to make the connection between Islamic jihad Al Shabab in Somalia, and the flow of Somali Islamic jihadists, using U.K as a base (including Muslima twins), for Islamic jihad front-line in Middle East/Africa.

    “Somali president’s palace under attack from al-Shabab”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28219681

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  30. Pounce says:

    Got to laugh, according to this video report from the bBC’s man in Gaza, Israel has launched 30 airstrikes in response to 40 rocket attacks and according to the bBC, Hamas will not bow down to this unwarranted increase of Israeli attacks.

    Err bBC , I thought that Muslims only thought peacefully during Ram-a-dam-a-ding-dong. Looks like I was wrong.
    Ramadan Death Count Round Up (July 08, 2014)

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  31. +james says:

    Hiding in plain sight, the Beeb knew all along….

       10 likes

    • chrisH says:

      I imagine that this shows how the BBC gets its childrens choirs to support the likes of Rolf and Sir James Savile of Pudsey.
      Anybody SERIOUSLY believe that it`s any different today. what with Russell Brand etc mocking grandads about what he`s been doing to their grand-daughters.
      Oooh!…what a rebel…our laws don`t apply to him any more that they used to, re Savile and Rolf.
      But Brand, like Harman Hodge etc isn`t dead or hideously chavvy….so the liberals love their sticking it to the Man, by way of perpetual rebellion to “conservative sexualities”…boring, beige and not what the BBC require at all.

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  32. thoughtful says:

    The BBC has been running the story of the uber left wing Bishop of Oxford who has decided that the religion which has given him a good living for a number of years, has to die out, as it is utterly without merit or meaning, and is not worth passing on to a younger generation.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10951894/Compulsory-Christian-school-assembly-should-be-scrapped-Church-of-England-education-chief.html

       16 likes

    • Mark says:

      Let Christianity die out, then the RoP(NOT!) will fill the vacuum.

         3 likes

    • Simon says:

      No wonder people don’t go to CoE churches anymore with wastes of space like him around

         7 likes

  33. jeff says:

    I’ve been busy all day and just caught the news “two British lads from Birmingham” have been convicted of terrorism offences.
    You just can’t trust those bloody Brummies, can you?

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  34. thoughtful says:

    Just been watching a documentary on the rescue of the Hijacked Lufthansa aircraft at Mogadishu in 1977.
    The criminals were the Popular front for the Liberation of Palestine.
    “a Palestinian Marxist-Leninist and revolutionary leftist organization founded in 1967”
    Some of the demands were for the release of Bader Meinhoff criminals in prison.

    Just goes to show that even back in 1977 the loonies of the left were as mad as they are today, except they hadn’t managed to infiltrate the Labour party.

    One Labour die hard I spoke to said he would still vote for them if they said they would sell his Grandchildren into slavery & torture him to death.

    Faced with that kind of unthinking loyalty it’s no surprise we’re where we are.

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  35. noggin says:

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/israel-revolt/arabs-celebrate-missile-strikes-israeli-civilians-video

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/hundreds-of-muslims-on-temple-mount-celebrate-rocket-attacks-on-jerusalem
    hmmm …
    NOT the type of news, BBC likes reporting, whether, from the despicable 5Lives N Campbell s interview the morning, or how about V “the glory of Ramadan” Derbyshire soon after.

    … Arabs celebrate-missile-strikes-on-israeli-civilians ….

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    • noggin says:

      …. well … No10 … Camoron ….
      somehow they just don t get your narrative!
      come on “Dave”, better get T Ramadan, or how about
      S Warsi to give you a few more lessons.
      , (hope all that Islamic financial gain, is worth it)

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  36. rinky stingpiece says:

    Have a read of this, and then tell me the temperature of your blood.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/10954956/Could-TV-Licensing-be-given-power-to-raid-bank-accounts.html

    There are a number of websites and social media “movements” that are firmly dedicated to the dismantling of the BBC and the termination of the licence fee – and without any sneaky replacement through taxation.
    The internet has enabled people to share information about how to legally resist the BBC, and it’s “licence fee” tax; and given the public ready access to the law and devices such as FOI requests, that have gradually helped dispel the myths perpetuated to protect and conserve this revolting anachronism.

    The time has come for a coherent national organisation to be formed to work for and coordinate a proper campaign to destroy the BBC, the licence fee, and any attempts to sustain it through some other means.

    A website makes a useful flag in the ground for the public to rally to, but at some point, there needs to be a formal organisation, with real meetings and an organised assault on the BBC and all it stands for.

    They did it in New Zealand; we can do it to… how about it?

    STOP THE BBC!

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Lin Homer, the failed senior civil servant at the head of the Home office, transferred to another department, because public sector staff are not subject to blame or accountability, and even adequacy in the role is not important !

      This Inland revenue scheme has had so much criticism that it’s unlikely to be adopted, and to be honest it’s just another Tory scam to avoid paying the horrendous legal costs which have become so exorbitant that even the government can’t afford it!

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  37. deegee says:

    Want to predict how BBC Outlook will treat the anniversary of 7/7?

    Find the only known Muslim survivor and interview her about how her experiences inspired her to work with the ‘Community’ and fight Islamophobia, how else?

    7/7 survivor Sajda Mughal

    Can only speculate why this wasn’t broadcast yesterday, the actual anniversary. Perhaps Outlook was caught unawares?

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  38. noggin says:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/08/us-france-security-idUSKBN0FD16020140708

    No surprises … squat on Al BBC news Europe.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/france-set-to-prevent-jihadists-going-to-fight-or-train-abroad

    R Spencer
    “Why hasn’t anyone thought of it in the U.S. or Great Britain?”

    oh come on …. although estimated 100s are already there from the UK, the Camoron and his No10 toryboys, will still have to talk about it … he ll discuss it at length with his,
    “muslim-moneygrabber” buddies.
    Sheesh! … I mean Ramadan and all that … he only just finished his Itfar dinner
    … send a respectful letter to the Imams?,
    … to maybe broach the subject with muslim parents?,
    … have a series of meetings for advice from T Ramadan/S Warsi and co?.

    Yep! that ll sort it.

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  39. Old Goat says:

    More climate change bollox this morning. Harrabin in his element, as was Lord Krebs (you know, that distinguished and accomplished climatologist…).

    Temperatures in England are getting warmer, it seems (although I seem to recall recently reading CET records showing a distinct decline over the years), and climate change is making us warmer – dangerously so, and it’s all going to come to a head, er, sometime – you just wait and see!

    More heatwaves, apparently, and other “extreme” weather events, according to the “scientific” (and politically biased) Met Office. We must spend money NOW on making sure our homes (and hospitals) don’t get too warm – too many elderly people dying from the heat, you know.

    Now, I am under the impression that the next three decades at least, are likely to become progressively cooler, rather than warmer – temperatures globally are flat at present, and have been for almost eighteen years (although Humphrys, bless him, weakly suggested that it was fourteen years, and that some folk were a bit sceptical…) Krebs was having none of that, though. The climate is changing, and will continue to do so, and it’s caused by humans, he said.

    Of course, there was no balancing dialogue from the sceptical side, which fits in with the BBC’s new policy of not inviting sceptics to comment, because it might spoil the alarmist culture.

    No mention of cooling, of course, or the fact that the elderly are dying in droves already, because they can no longer afford to heat their homes. No mention, either, of the fact that the climate had change to a degree continuously over the last 4.5 billion years, or that if the climate were, indeed, warming, then there would be fewer notable weather events, rather than more.

    The game of continues, with an ever sceptical public poo-pooing just about every preposterous idea that “climeate sceantists” come up with in order to support their dying religion. When will it stop?

    The Committee for Climate Change – a group of like-minded, on-message charlatans, advising a useless government that they have come up with the expected prognosis, and telling said gullible government what to do about it.

    The BBC. A dumbed-down, politically biased organisation, who believe every word, and think that we should, too.

    It makes me very, very angry.

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    • MartinWW says:

      Yes, the contribution of Lord Krebs on the Today programme this morning about 07:15 was outrageous, though his mouthings were the sort of thing we have come to expect from the ‘Climate Change’ Committee. Some might say he was extremely ‘economical with the actualié’, other might say he lied. John Humphreys seems to be catching up slowly, and mentioned 14 hiatus in any warming’ (actually 18 years as we (here) all know), but it was very low key and he didn’t press the point. Neither did Humphreys point out that the recent Somerset Levels flooding was a result of Policy and not a ‘Climate Change’ event. However, the BBC established the and embedded the lie, and Humphreys doubtless is obliged to go along with it. Krebs, a distinguished and intelligent scientist, cannot be unaware that the facts do not support his stated case and that he is succumbing to pressure to tow the party line? How can the man live with himself?

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      • GCooper says:

        If that is what Krebs said then he is neither distinguished nor intelligent. Courtesy only needs to go so far.

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        • MartinWW says:

          I like to try to be courteous most of the time (except where dumb fools such as Ed Davey are concerned).

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          • DownBoy says:

            I was almost impressed with Humphries this morning for mentioning the lack of actual warming, albeit he didn’t exactly go for the jugular against the eco loon.

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  40. Roland Deschain says:

    ‘I’ve been banned by the BBC!’

    Nigel Lawson speaks out.

    (P.S. Anyone else finding this site really slow the last couple of days?)

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    • Old Goat says:

      Yes, it’s very slow.

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    • Umbongo says:

      Yes – I thought it was my ISP. Apparently not: it’s due to climate change (well everything else is).

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    • chrisH says:

      I too have noticed a deeply sinister approach to Lawsons arguments from five months ago.
      The useless “Feedback” show continues-even now-to include phoned-in greenies saying that Lawson “disturbed them” at the time…and clearly ,they`ve not got over it because a new set of moaners come onto the show every few weeks to say so.( and who`s checking who THEY might be, given how similar the comments are-and how co-ordinated and restricted the syntax).
      Systematic timed waves of faux-outrage and hurt at the opinions of one bloke from five months ago?
      These “outraged, hurt and disappointed” types all seem to come from whiter, leafier shores of this, Green and very pleasant land, and have the suitably plummy accents.
      If they`re not phoning it all in from a quango, council office or school/uni…church or a campaign office with EU/Greenpeace/FoE/Lib-Lab Green funding or notepaper..I`ll be surprised.
      Utter scurrilous bias-but this is London Calling remember?…happily we know they`re reduced to Salford now, and will have to go soon.
      PS…according to their excuses to ban Lawson for not being an expert…hopefully all their child abuse crap will be investigated by Rolf Harris…anybody NOT an expert in child abuse should have no say…and if they ARE self-disclosing experts, then we`ll be needing their laptops!

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  41. Maturecheese says:

    Bloody climate nonsense again, the headline says ‘England exposed to climate risks’ well I can think of ‘risks’ far more likely and the BBC aren’t that interested in telling us about those.

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    • Old Goat says:

      The biggest risk of all, would be the BBC reporting something without a BBC agenda. As that is unlikely to happen, ever, we need not worry our little heads.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      How foolish. They’ve opened it to comments. Not for long, I suspect, and it’s already degenerated into ’tis-’tisn’t.

      I did like this one, though. I suspect it may not be entirely serious:
      110.AliBenSawali
      1 Minute ago
      I never believed in climate change until I saw Germany beat Brazil 7 – 1. Now I realise anything can happen. Obviously not England winning the world cup though, that would be like Father Christmas or the tooth fairy being real. But just think of it, the greatest footballing nation being humbled by Germany. It makes me really worry about the earths climate. What if our defenses are like Brazil’s.

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      • GCooper says:

        It’s no joke. Somewhere, a faux scientist is writing it up for his grant application, even now.

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  42. chrisH says:

    Still-once Brazil bulldozes all those pointless stadia back into the rainforest, we ought to have a few more trees to give us oxygen.
    Those 22 planks they forged from all that virgin territory was no swap was it?…Fred Hulk…hardly a name to strike fear into anybody but England.
    Still-was pleased to see Brazil players praising, thanking God at the end…and if it was for forgiveness, then hey-it`s still public prayer, so respect to Luis etal.
    It lops the BBC media stereotypes(and frankly racist, patronising) of that great nation into a cocked hat too…surprisingly enough for the BBC, most Brazilians have lives, don`t care overmuch and will be back trying to salvage an economy this morning.
    Only the faux lefties like Todays planks or presenters get away with this colonial crap about samba dancing street children in tears…let Evan and Sarah get a pasting for their ignorant, band waggon chasing caricatures.
    We`ve got Nicky Campbell-they`ve got Jean Charles De Menezes…Cressida Dick or Carlos Alberto?…

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    Hello to all you ‘BBC viewers’ out there.

    I say that because there would seem to be BBC people looking in. Well it’s possible.

    Yesterday I highlighted BBC reports about the sacking of Alun Davies from his ‘cabinet post’ in the labour-led administration by way of the devolved Welsh Assembly or some such – for his breaking the rules of the ministerial code.

    It was very much a case of no names no packdrill – the BBC managed to avoid any reference at all to the Labour Party.

    Well we have a new story here

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-28219297

    ‘Sacked minister Alun Davies’s actions ‘reprehensible”

    And we find no less than 6 mentions of the previously absent ‘L’ word.

    Well done everyone at the BBC. I know it’s painful but it’s for the best – BBC Charter and all that.

    1. He (Alun Davies) added: “I will continue to support the first minister and the Welsh Labour government”.

    2. Kirsty Williams : “At the time it seemed particularly odd that the Labour party was tweeting the questions. It now seems clear that it was an attempt at intimidation; yet they’ve actually shot themselves in the foot.”

    3. She said Mr Davies had “gone on a rampage to get revenge” “Labour needs to come clean about who else knew about this concentrated smear campaign,”

    4. “Unless it is just a massive coincidence, judging from his party’s official Twitter feed it would seem that others high up in the Labour party possibly knew about it.”

    5. …on July 2, hours after Mr Davies emailed his officials asking for details of any payments to the five opposition AMs, the @Laboursenedd Twitter account posted messages drawing attention to questions Kirsty Williams was asking about support to farmers in her own constituency.

    6. Meanwhile the Liberal Democrats are raising new questions about whether anyone else in Labour knew that Mr Davies had requested the information about farm subsidies.

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  44. Dave666 says:

    Bingo! Yes breakfast BBc a story about aging population & CLIMATE CHANGE. Some malarkey about a hospital designed to be cooler. Then South Sudan. A young representative from Oxfam giving us the sales speil we’ve all heard a million times before that is hand over your cash. And of course on the sofa the refugee from South Sudan. Talking of charities this one isn’t actually the BBc but it did catch my eye one of my ex empolyers Tesco. Running a give food to pass on to food banks. My view of this being Buy from Tesco give back to Tesco they add on 30% (why 30%?) and give to the food bank which apparently helps your community. Now as the BBc are eternally banging on about food banks I looked into this further apparently some food banks are supported by the local authority so if you are paying council tax you may be supporting the food bank anyway.

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    • Merched Becca says:

      Probably the long term answer to world poverty, strife hunger and migration etc etc etc ad inf. would be for the BBC World Service to embark on a project to educate their listeners in the benefits of contraception ?

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  45. Deborah says:

    Radio 4 news, 1pm WATO, the first twenty minutes or so seemed obsessed with the appointment of Elizabeth Butler Schloss. At least the interviewer asked the guest who she wanted to lead the enquiry and got the response that she didn’t know. My guess is that the objections are because they really wanted a left leaning pinko judge and anyone connected with the Conservative Party would be inappropriate in their view.

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    • Llareggub says:

      Meanwhile Harriet Harmless complains that women are not given important roles. This job has gone to a woman who has shown competence and integrity in a life time commitment to her profession. I would expect the weasels in the Labour Party to complain.

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  46. Old Goat says:

    This site has all but ground to a halt for me – anyone else?

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  47. Alex says:

    The usual Muslim censorship on the BBC Six ‘News’ with that epitome of middle-class English politeness Fiona “Oh, not in front of the children dear” Bruce. Now, we the populace, despite BBC and Sky selective reporting, are getting used to being able to spot Muslim violence or wrongdoing on our news outlets simply because of familiarity with its characteristics and the sheer bloody volume of Muslim crimes that are spreading like a cancer across the globe. However, if you were an extraterrestrial from Zeta Reticuli having landed your anti-gravity triangular craft in front of a British TV set, you would be forgiven for wondering what lies behind all of this increased security at airports and young people wanting go off and fight; because the BBC have decided to leave analysis out of the equation. Instead we get ‘British’ and “This will come as a major inconvenience to holiday makers…” but no explanations… just descriptions. Personally, I blame Muslim fascists and terrorist murderers who are hellbent on imposing their medieval religion on the west.

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    • Dave S says:

      Getting a bit like the old USSR when the Russians learned to read between the lines. The loser will be the BBC and the liberal media. Without trust it has no future.

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    • Rob says:

      If your electronic items get confiscated you should be able to claim the monies back from your local Mosque

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    • Ken says:

      Oh come on…. just because all of the evidence overwhelmingly points in that direction, that does not mean it is true. After all it completely goes against the “multicultural” meme and so cannot possibly be true.

      Now stop questioning the BBC agenda. The BBC are experts and obviously know far better than the rest of us, what is good for us and what is not.

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  48. Mike_s says:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28189035

    The BBC calls local people who want to defend them self against the Boko Haram vigilante. This word has a negative connotation. This is a deliberate policy. Boko Haram on the other hand are called Islamist.
    The BBC is the enemy.

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    • Merched Becca says:

      I do wonder if anyone in British politics, or indeed any of their researchers pops over to read this website ?
      They might just start getting the message about AlBeebs transparent propaganda ?

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  49. Pounce says:

    Yolande Knell of the bBC opined the other day about how Medicines are running out in Gaza due to the Israeli Blockade.
    Yet since last week Hamas has lobbed over 500 missiles which some have warheads of over 375 Ib warhead. So if Hamas can get its hands on so many weapons of war during a time of siege, why can’t they get their hands on medicines?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28210654

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    • Dave S says:

      They ( the BBC droids) have a complete blind spot over Gaza. Impossible to get through to them .Liberal trash.

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    • Rob says:

      Its like those on benefits. Never have money for food and their kids but never go without cigarettes and booze. Hamas will go without food and medicine for the Palestinians but never go without rockets and guns

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    • Umbongo says:

      As Regev pointed out about 2 days ago to his interviewer on Today, Gaza also has a border with Egypt which – as Regev claimed and who could disagree? – loathes Hamas as much as the Israelis and therefore also “blockades” Gaza. I don’t recall any Today interviewer giving an Egyptian representative a going over in respect of that blockade.
      Mind you, as the Israeli Deputy Defence Minister implied yesterday it’s a funny old world where one country blockades another but supplies it with over 60% of its electricity. Oddly you rarely hear about that on the BBC’s TV and radio offerings (although – as usual – I’m sure there’s some obscure part of the BBC website which contains that intelligence).

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    • deegee says:

      Assume the accusation was true. Can anyone give an example of any other war where the party at war with the government of that country continued supplying the people of that country, which, of course, includes the soldiers of that country with medicine, water and electricity?

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