The BBC asks……
Were child abuse inquiries blocked?
Curiously it omits this statement from Geoffrey Dickens in the Commons in 1987:
I have received on my desk many cases involving children’s homes where the children are mentally disabled and people are certainly abusing them but the Director of Public Prosecutions is unable to act in spite of the fact that he, the police and the Attorney-General know very well that those things are happening.
The Government have been making rapid strides. They have reviewed the child care law, published inquiries into the sad deaths in cases of child abuse—we have learned from the lessons—and put the names of those who have been warned or convicted of child offences on a central computer so that there can be a blackball system when someone seeks employment to work with children. Those are all marvellous things that the Government have been doing, and I applaud them; I do not attack them.
I should like to place on record my thanks to the Home Office and the departments within the Home Office for following up the many cases that I keep sending to it. I should also like to thank the Attorney-General. They have been very helpful and a strength to me in my campaigns.
So was Geoffrey Dickens unhappy with the Home Office response, or not?
As for the 114 missing files……it seems that losing files is a common occurrence at the Home Office……
The missing documents were some of the 36,000 records which officials presumed were lost, destroyed or missing. They were not part of the 278,000 documents the Home Office destroyed as part of its “retention and destruction” policy. However, Sedwill told Vaz in a letter published on Saturday that the department had found “no evidence of the inappropriate removal or destruction of material”.
So it might be a conspiracy or it might just be bureaucratic chaos….but the BBC don’t bother to tell us of that lost 36,000 files which might put a bit of perspective onto things.
well my contacts in parliament tell me that a very senior well respected former labour minister will be arrested in the comings days and many former and at least 2 serving mps from the mainstream partys from will be getting the rolf harris knock on the door in the coming weeks and months from boys in blue,of course these people cant be named because of libel and contempt of court that could end me and you in court alongside these creeps.but the truth will be out very soon and it will be queit shocking to say the least what has been going on down there in paedo parliament.
I hope you’re right Stuart. I’m not so sure though. Perhaps they will throw a couple of sacrificial lambs to the wolves but I’m betting these will be ‘expendable’ and not anyone from the upper echelons.
I suspect that the ‘boys in blue’ are up to their necks in it as well. I’m pretty much convinced they’ve been covering up for their masters’ ‘little indiscretions’ for decades,
The phrase “no evidence of the inappropriate removal or destruction of material” means nothing if any evidence of removal has also been ‘disappeared’.
We need a fully independent public inquiry that will also investigate Westminster, the BBC and any further international links. Those ‘up to their necks in it’ come from a much broader web than just the UK – search “EU paedophilia” “UN paedophilia” and the extent becomes clear. These are the people that believe they have a right to tell us how we should live our lives.
Would you like to rewrite that in English? “Contacts in Parliament ?” Who? Are they also semi-literate?
114 Files got lost !!!! The dog must of ate it.
Why on earth does there need to be a “retention and destruction policy”. These days, one could pop down to PC World and buy enough Terrabytes to store the entire document hoard of the civil service from 1970 to date for the cost of a couple of MP’s lunches. Ok I’m simplifying but in principle it’s true.
Because were not talking about ‘these days’. While there is the capacity now, in the 70s and 80s there wasn’t the capacity to store mountains of material – apart from the massive processing centres, the civil service was largely not computerised until the late 80’s – the height of new technology was a often a golf-ball typewriter and calculators to replace a comptometer.
The destruction policies were implemented and audited – inspectors would appear to ensure that all procedures including the destruction procedures were being followed to the letter.
The ‘destruction and retention policy’ is a direct result of the Public Records Act – an act of parliament brought into law by MPs.
Now all of a sudden civil servants doing what parliament requires them to do is described as ‘incompetence’, ‘conspiracy’ if not worse.
Taking a wider view, on the one hand we have Google being told that we all have the right to be ‘forgotten’ and on the other ‘everything’ that crosses ‘government’ desk must be kept. Of course the more than gets kept the harder it is to keep it secure – shock, horror, government records found in a dump etc.
I heard on the radio that Keith Vaz soke to the MP who is continuing the crusade against child abuse in Westminster and told him not to use Parliamentary Privilege to name a Labour MP. I wonder who that MP could be
I find it utterly depressing to return to the UK after a week or so away, turn on the radio or TV to find the same old BBC, carrying on in the same old way, full of innuendo and pointed comments, trying in particular to drag the Tories into this and tar the present Government.
Yesterday, when the full gravity of what is confronted them, hit MPs of all parties between the eyes, there was cross party unanimity that May, had got it right in her announcements. Unanimity that is with the exception of Yvette Cooper who couldn’t resist making a partisan point, no doubt for her own personal advancement.
It was disappointing, but not surprising therefore that in his piece for the 10 o’ Clock news, the increasingly partial Nick Robinson, rather than comment on the consensus, echoed Mrs Balls’ comments about u-turns and that May’s hand had been forced. Three or four times Robinson and the newsreader laboured this.
If there is a public inquiry urgently needed on anything, it should be into the BBC, their political and social bias and the urgent need to liberalise broadcasting in this country.
In particular Britain needs greater competition in serious ‘voice radio’ broadcasting.
I like almost every body else has no insight into what has gone on. I can’t even find any significant smoking gun in the bBC about their current presentation.
However this is the classic kind of story where the bBC usually show their bias by being selective in what they write, what facts are revealed and those left out. This selectivity all goes toward the picture they paint. Only the next few weeks will show how they progress.
The story has a strange start, Dickens submitted the dossier in 1983 and then never raises it again as lack of progress for the next 12 years. he did not have a reputation for staying quiet, also TWatson starts it off again and then goes silent, what will happen next?
It’s another Labour smear campaign. TWATson made his HoC point because he believed the internet nutter sites, which generally point the finger at Tories. It starts the campaign off, as in the (non) deleted Dowler texts, or re-starts the campaign, as we see now with the paedophile files.
It’s been common knowledge for years that one or two Labour figures were paedophiles. If it is true that a Labour figure is likely to be collared first, it may temper TWATson’s ardour a little, but the shit he has thrown about is likely to stick longer to the Tories, mainly because the smear will be spread by their braindead, propaganda and hate-filled supporters.
So now we know what Yewtree was all about – a pathetic attempt create an atmosphere in which their smears could be believed. Hot from the desk of Labour’s smear unit courtesy of Mr Tom Watson, smear master extraordinaire, a man incapable of learning from the McAlpine farce.
In 1997 they used paedo scare tactics to introduce a Teachers tax and a Working With Children tax. Now they are trampling on the pain of real victims to attack political enemies, irrespective of the evidence.
If Labour wanted to do something about child abuse it would have acted against those who worked through the child care system to find victims. They are after all in charge of the largest number of homes, being the party of the inner city. Instead we got Margaret Hodge, Children’s Minister and victim oppressor.
What scum Labour are.
so my first comment has become invalid now,tonight on channel 4 the goverment revealed that these 114 files has all in effect been destroyed,how bloody convenient that is to protect the politacal establishment and the media,i bet you one thing,if the goverment ever held a file on any of us it would never be destroyed,this is one big cover and and stitch up to protect the politacal establishment and i find that evil beyond contempt.
David Cameron says he wants to “get right to the bottom of this” – an unfortunate choice of words, or his true inclination?
This enquiry that has been announced, the Butler-Sloss one, would seem to me to have the potential to carry on for years, possibly even longer than the one into Bloody Sunday (and I’m unsure whether that has actually reported yet).
The Baroness is 80 years old, and part of the establishment, so on the basis of the Bloody Sunday Enquiry experience is unlikely (it has to be said) to see the thing through.
What is really needed is for the enquiry (if there is to be one) to be conducted by some anti-establishment person of much younger age and much greater energy/ dynamism. If properly undertaken, it would probably result in a massive change in the way politics is done in this country, with the Whips (of all parties) unable to hold dirt on MPs for their own purposes.
Sadly and instead, the enquiry that has been announced allows possible perpetrators the time to cover their tracks or kick the bucket undiscovered.