WEEKEND OPEN THREAD….

Hi folks. Been away much of the week so apols for my absence. Anyway, here is a NEW Open Thread for your edification! Enjoy.

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  1. Old Timer says:

    You know it makes sense!8

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  2. David Brims says:

    The Media Industrial Complex reaction to Nigel Farage winning the TV debate against Nick Clegg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUx3DkK2SA0

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  3. johnnythefish says:

    In an idle moment (one amongst many, mostly real-ale induced) a thought suddenly occurred to me: the Labour administrations 1997-2010 must be the least examined or commented upon by the BBC, in retrospective terms, in the Corporation’s history. And by a country mile at that.

    I am struggling to understand why.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It was, as far as the BBC is concerned, another one of those ‘different times’.
      “Now I forget how to think
      So crack my skull
      Rearrange me

      Nothing ever happened here
      Nothing ever happened here
      Bad things never happen to the beautiful”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_Rv4zMkNZs&feature=kp

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    • Bodo says:

      In the run-up to the 2005 general election I remember reading (sorry no link) that labour had insisted that media coverage was to be about the future, and not an examination of previous policies. Not surprising considering labours record. Disgracefully much of the media, especially the BBC, agreed to labours demand.

      Maybe the media still thinks that way?

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  4. David Brims says:

    Strange how the lame stream media swoons and gushes about the Arab Spring ( Nightmare ) muslims crying out for ‘fweedom’, but when it comes to Europeans crying out for democracy ? no such luck !!

    From what I’ve learned over the past couple of days, Farage sweats a lot, loves Putin, is a conspiracy theorist and hates people, well, practically all Mankind !!

    By the end of the week he’ll probably be described as the Son of Satan and that classic standby, compared to Adolf Hitler !!

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    • An English Gentleman says:

      Actually, a lovely comment. Exactly proving the bias that the bbbc ALWAYS demonstrates to anyone who isn’t displaying a nice, healthy far left attitude. I have to admit to being privately quite surprised at how dimbledoor managed to remain reasonably in the middle at the debate. Further, I notice that now that the debate is over (and no matter who comments the fact is that it was won handsomely by Farage) the bbbc have done what they always do and quickly move on and do what they can to not mention that particular subject ever again

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      • Doublethinker says:

        The BBC and most of the commentariat are at a loss to explain why the people didn’t follow the script and gave victory to Clegg. They don’t understand that it wasn’t so much the singer as the song that won it for Farage. Equally they don’t realise whilst they may welcome mass immigration, huge welfare bills as a mark of our compassion, the rest of us don’t. Basically most of the political classes and all of the commentariat , with the BBC in the van, are OUT OF TOUCH with what real Brits think and want.
        As to the latest suggestion from the BBC, reported in the Telegraph today, that there should a universal tax imposed to pay for the corporation as people migrate to new technology, it just shows how OUT OF TOUCH they have become. The Tories must resist this and any other suggestion that allows the parasitic BBC to continue squeeze the life out of the country by promoting its self serving liberal left agenda. New technology will bring about the end of the BBC and no sensible Tory will do anything to help the floundering BBC.

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        • Unfortunately the BBC would rather listen to the views of the Polly Toynbees’s of the world…rather than asking the proles themselves. Farage may not speak for the man in the street but he has the understanding of our concerns and aspirations rather than the smugly comfortable affluent “new aristocracy” who like to dictate how we live our lives but wouldn’t dream of standing in line with us or sending their kids to the same schools. Going to the same hospitals. Living where we live. I bet Polly and her BBC chums don’t live in “lively and diverse” communities…

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          • johnnythefish says:

            Clegg, Labour, Common Purpose, the EU, the UN, the IPCC, Hacked Off, the Guardian, Hope Not Hate, the educational establishment, ‘charities’, quangos and the BBC – one big orchestrated leftist, eco-obsessed echo chamber totally out of touch with your average Brit in the street, with the ‘trusted’ BBC acting as both conductor and lead violin.

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          • Barlicker says:

            “Farage may not speak for the man in the street…”
            Perhaps, perhaps not, but he knows how to speak TO the man in the street. I have little doubt that if ever Polly Toynbee, Shouty Boy Jones or any of the BBC hacks ever condescended to visit my home town to exchange views with the locals, they would get very short shrift indeed. Perhaps BBC journos, to help them fulfill their remit to be impartial, should periodically spend a few months working for local paper in working class towns with large immigrant populations – like Keighley or Burnley or, well there are many others.
            (Btw, sorry I clicked the report button by mistake – yet again! Can’t you move the damn thing?)

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            • Yvette Cooper MP (Ed Ball’s wife who as a couple flipped home, I think, 4 times in 2 years) is a proud member of Hope Not Hate.

              She was in the Labour govt’ when that party of integrity opened the doors to immigration ( to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity” as one of their spokesman once admitted) to such an overwhelming degree it has caused racial tension.

              Yvette is like someone purposely stabbing you with a Stanley knife and then shouting “Look at me! Look at me! I’m getting a plaster for that nasty wound!”

              Pathetic.

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  5. chrisH says:

    The truly useless News Quiz manages to avoid any story that might cast a shadow over Labours return to greatness with a Guardian as an incontinence pad.
    The NHS story where Lord Warner suggested a charge of £10 to use it was regarded as being “a shame” in that he was a Labour Lord by one of the “comedians” on the panel.
    Yes-the wit and balance of the BBCs “comedy output”….didn`t hear the start-wonder if Farage got a battering for daring to win his spat with Clegg.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    And in other news:
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/creative-warmth.html
    Fires of hell?
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/pan-bbc-breakthrough.html
    So… less deep pan and more thin & crispy?
    “Oi, Captain Smith! That deckchair would look much better over there”
    I continue to wonder just whose best interests are ‘looked after’ by the BBC’s market second rates.

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  7. chrisH says:

    Was at some piece of crap that was being used to “poison the minds of children at taxpayers expense”-the quote that a Year 11 lad present at the “SexEd” sesh came up with himself!
    Thought I`d better warn you anyway-our facilitator from Brighton( no kidding!) told us that MSM were being “prejudiced against”.
    We here think we know what MSM stands for…but it turns out to be “Men having Sex with Men” so words like “gay” can be avoided-such assignations being used as abuse etc.
    So then-makes life a lot easier now that so many of our BBC agitprop types fit into MSM in both categorical groups.
    Thought you`d like to know, this being a public announcement site…as opposed to Radio Gaga/Lord HawHaws never ending tribute act that is the BBC.
    The lads comment gives us all hope for the future-11 years of PC World as compulsion at school-and he still has a mind of his own.
    Splendid!

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  8. Sinniberg says:

    It was very, very noticeable how the BBC quickly dropped the second Nigel Farage vs Nick Clegg debate/story after Clegg got trumped even more by Farage.

    Infact, once the poll results came in showing 69% in favour of Nigel Farage it was “abandon ship”.

    Obviously things didn’t go as the BBC hoped…..

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    • Stewart says:

      Or how Ed hoped (same thing -some might say)
      http://order-order.com/2014/04/04/ukip-attacking-scared-ed-u-turn/
      Yes,just in case any one missed it the first time.

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    • Joeb says:

      Clegg’s constant assertion that Farage wanted to take Britain back to the 19th century was quite daft in view of the fact the EU itself is a 19th century idea. They finally achieved it in the late 20th century, using WWII as an excuse to get it done.

      “Never let a crisis go to waste.”

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      • John Smith says:

        Would that be a 19th century where we made stuff, had a standing in the world as an independent power, and where we weren’t unduly concerned about happenings on a little peninsula of the Eurasian World Island? Sounds good to me.

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  9. George R says:

    For dusty, Hampstead Harrabin and co:-

    “LYING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE TO ADVANCE THE GREEN AGENDA IS GOOD, SAYS PEER-REVIEWED PAPER”

    By James Delingpole.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/04/04/Lying-About-Climate-Change-To-Advance-The-Green-Agenda-Is-Good-Says-Peer-Reviewed-Paper

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  10. George R says:

    KENYA: Islamic jihadist murders six Christians in church.

    Have Beeboids gone home for the weekend, and so don’t report it?
    “Kenya: Muslim enters church, screams “Allahu akbar,” murders six people”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/kenya-muslim-enters-church-screams-allahu-akbar-murders-six-people

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    • Flexdream says:

      The BBC did report a shooting attack on a Kenyan church where 6 died so it probably is the same story
      (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26834209)
      For some inexplicable reason the BBC story omits any reference to that expression of greeting associated with the “Religion of Peace”(TM) and does not identify the gunmen, though reading the story it’s clear the BBC know which group carried it out and why.

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  11. Lobster says:

    Looks like Nigel Farage’s prediction of violence in the EU has started
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/
    http://rt.com/news/
    The BBC website is also reporting it (if you care to look hard enough).
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/

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    • chrisH says:

      Yes I found it!
      No mention on the News 24 website though earlier on.
      Found out about Brussels kicking off c/o RT.
      This is what we pay the BBC for-to ignore any Euro conflict, and give us updates on Bruce Forsyths retirement plans.
      The less we know of Europe the better, so the BBC says.

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      • Agreed. I cant find it on the BBC site maybe I’m not looking hard enough. The Belgium riots were major (25-40,000 protesters, not all in confrontation with the law, but water cannon WAS used and the US embassy locked down) against EU austerity and “social dumping.” That is importing cheap foreign workers at the expense of local (indigenous) labour. I have never heard of that expression before though it has to be said its pretty much what has happened in the east of England where I live.

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    • onlyne says:

      Stumbled across it by chance. It briefly had a comment section, which largely consisted of complaints about the standard of reporting (or lack of it) from the BBC on what is happening in Europe (found a report about riots in Madrid on Aljazeera!). The comment section has now been removed.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘comment section has now been removed’
        That is of course a solution, albeit extreme, to the ‘wrong’ kind of comment.
        Rather open to abuse, though.
        Evidently the BBC can live with that.

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        • There was a daft report by the BBC news website with four MEP’s remarking on the debate between Clegg and Farage. The HYS that followed the article was quickly closed at just over 300. Why? Maybe it was because the HYS writers almost to man made it clear than they didn’t give damn what this lot said. It was a British issue and the BBC should stop wasting their time and ours by showing it…Maybe the BBC got the message?

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          • onlyne says:

            Maybe the BBC got the message? More likely, they didn’t like the message they were getting.

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  12. uncle bup says:

    W****r Of The Week award (for the 521st consecutive week) goes to Gameshow Nikki.

    Wileyeron’d a Tory MP this morning with …

    ‘Woboumreeamilla. Wyza teenager who steals a bollaworra in the riots get 6 months and mreeamilla gets a slap on the wrist? Wyzit one rool for the toposocitee and another rool for the botmosocitee …woboumreeamilla.’

    Firstly I don’t suppose he wileyeron’d every Labour MP about Harman and PIE, for example.

    Secondly it’s just downright rude. If he wants to interview someone about Maria Miller ask them on to talk about Maria Miller otherwise stfu.

    Thirdly stop using your shit programme to suck up to your pretrendy lefty mates. When you’ve had rioters torching cars down yer street with the police awol, when you’ve been beaten and robbed by chums of yer teenager hero, when you’ve had your business razed to the ground by rioters I might just listen to what yer have to say.

    Otherwise – again stfu.

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  13. George R says:

    Philby, and the enemy within Britain, then and now.

    Roger Scruton, has written about about the phenomenon on the political ‘Left’ of ‘Oikophobia’ (repudiation of inheritance and home). The most recent BBC programme this week, ‘Kim Philby’ BBC 2, on the Cambridge spies (Philby, Burgess, Maclean, etc) reminded me of what Roger Scruton had written 10 years ago:-

    “As George Orwell pointed out, intellectuals on the Left are especially prone to it [oikophobia], and this has made them willing agents of foreign powers. The Cambridge spies offer a telling illustration of what oikophobia has meant for our country. And it is interesting to note that the recent BBC ‘docudrama’ constructed around that deplorable episode neither examined the realities of their treason nor addressed the suffering of the millions of the East European victims, but merely endorsed the oikophobia that had caused the spies to act as they did. The resulting portrait of English society, culture, nationhood and loyalty as both morally reprehensible and politically laughable is standard BBC fare -prolefeed, as Orwell described it in ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’.”

    [-from Roger Scruton’s “England and the Need for Nations” (Chapter 8: ‘Oikophobia)

    -available here, in full, via Civitas, in pdf .

    http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/EnglandAndTheNeedForNations.pdf

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  14. Geoff says:

    So the Clegg Farage debate gets just a 90 second mention in Have I Got News for You. Of course had Farage lost it would have got 90% of the program.

    However there was time for an uncomplementary impression of Farage from the smug unfunny Merton and also note the two bug eyed caricatures of Farage on the backdrop. No other caricature of other party leader is as unflattering, even that of Salmond.

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    • Flexdream says:

      Al Beeba is rewriting the news and trying to pretend those debates didn’t happen, or don’t matter, or Farage lost etc.

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      • chrisH says:

        And Samira Ahmed(and how crap do you have to be to leave Jon Snow and go to the BBC…some career path!) has a “Newswatch” thing on News 24 , where she moans at one of her BBC bosses for putting Farage on the telly in the first place.
        He won`t be let on again to scare the children now will he Ric…that was her level of debate about UKIP.
        Following on from Yasmin Alibiah Brown wanting UKIP banned(as said on the Channel 4 recent biog)…we can see where “Free Speech” has to be put if the plebs don`t do as Samira Alibiah Brown wants.
        Sinister-and both are bound to be liberal Muslims too!
        Eek!

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        • johnnythefish says:

          If Hacked Off(/Common Purpose/Hope Not Hate etc) get their way via Leveson, we might as well kiss free speech good- bye anyway.

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    • Techno says:

      Didn’t watch it, but I find it hard to dislike Merton. He is one of only two people in the public eye who went to a comprehensive, the other being Jessica Ennis-Hill.

      Nearly everbody else in the public eye, almost without exception, went to either a grammar school or a fee-paying private school.

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      • Techno says:

        I ought to add that I’m a supporter of grammar schools/state-funded selective education, not a supporter of comprehensive schools.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          I used to be a fan of Merton until I read his bile-filled socialist outpourings.

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      • Colonel Blimp says:

        see also Justine Greening, the product of a Doncaster comprehensive and Southampton University, and an accountant rather than a Oxbridge PPE/lawyer

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  15. noggin says:

    poverty, disenfranchised, prevention of aspirations, and the old fave … oppression
    causes these little lambs, to go to the other side of the world and mass murder as many non muslims as possible?

    ooooh yea! ex Arsenal footballer?
    This gun-toting fanatic is said to have grown up playing with Real Madrid? Galactico? Cristiano Ronaldo?.
    The militia man turned his back on his multi-millionaire? lifestyle after becoming radicalised two years ago

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/arsenal-jihadist-ex-footballer-abu-issa-3376223
    don t know how that happened?

    never mind
    John (woodentop) Kerry says …. (jazz hands everybody)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26886792
    and the BBC loves him

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    • noggin says:

      ps
      didn t see the other story on the BBC …
      wonder why?

      http://youtu.be/XjC8OB_T14U

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      • Stewart says:

        Is he any of these I wonder?
        http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/23159023

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        • noggin says:

          BBC. England’s top division now features 40 Muslim players and they are having a significant effect on the culture(??) … of the game.
          On 5 February, 2012, Newcastle United played Aston Villa at St James’ Park and one moment symbolised the impact Muslim players were having on the Premier League.
          After 30 minutes, Demba Ba scored for the home side. He raced to the corner flag and was joined by Senegalese compatriot Papiss Cisse. The two devout Muslims then sank to their knees in prayer …
          do you have a sick bag at hand?
          obviously they ve changed the culture at the BBC,(because of cowardice).

          How many players in the premier league?
          I think at last count it was about 570 with
          a couple of dozen on loan players.
          … still look on the bright side, one less at Arsenal.

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          • John Smith says:

            It is perhaps a good thing then that the Beeb doesn’t cover Premiership RU. Many of the south sea islanders are devout Christians and will always be seen to be offering up a small prayer if they score. How would the BBC cope with such displays?

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    • pah says:

      So, any guesses as to who this is? Terry Henry? Sol Campbell? Tony Adams? nah. Made up story? More than likely.

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  16. noggin says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26886792

    John Kerry says … its time for a reality check ?*!*!?
    f-ck me, is he being ironic ….. as :-D
    “The Palestinians were furious when Israel did not sanction the release of a fourth batch of Palestinian and Israeli-Arab prisoners” ………. and?

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  17. noggin says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26884976

    BBC now has this up on its news site
    isn t this laudible? … these poor mothers against
    radicalisation project etc?

    good idea?, sadly as it turns out it is a “victim” propaganda
    project …. these “mothers” were horrified at online sites constantly turning youth (into heartless mass murderers?), … onto “radicalisation,
    (following Islam s mandated instructions) … oops! silly me, I mean “Al Quaida inspired terrorism TM”

    They were horrified by …
    the passages in the Quran inspiring this madness? …
    well, actually no … its
    ” all the abuses” in Abu Graib ….
    “all that footage of American soldiers shooting innocent civilians” …
    “the oppression of the poor Palestinians”

    … wonder how much funding is involved
    hmmm
    hope it doesn t turn into a “radical mothers” project, considering the carefully selective way they were “horrified”
    1hr 26″ (50 sec) …
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03yqn00

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    • uncle bup says:

      Yes I never like this ‘…was radicalised’ as tho he’s a passive victim.

      They have free wills – they radicalise themselves.

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    • Merched Becca says:

      Calling all researchers working for the BBC !- A message from America …..
      “You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”.
      Hwyl !

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    • George R says:

      While INBBC presents 7/7 massacre from a Muslim perspective, the British people are still bearing the costs of continuing mass immigration from Islamic countries.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10746109/BBC-wants-you-to-pay-TV-licence-fee-even-if-you-dont-own-a-set-as-shows-go-on-iPlayer-for-longer.html?
    It would appear the strategic thinking is that the best form of defence is attack, or at least in negotiating like Souk merchants you kick off double to get back to the status quo.
    Not sure many will respond favourably to this even if just a gambit.

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    • Techno says:

      The trouble is that it might be funded out of general taxation so you can’t avoid it, and we’ll never be rid of the BBC.

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      • Merched Becca says:

        A message from America to the collectors of this iniquitous BBC media ‘poll tax’,
        “No taxation without representation”! “No taxation without representation”!
        Hwyl

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  19. noggin says:

    “I simply must go … baby, it’s cold outside
    The answer is no … You know it’s cold etc”

    Global warming gravy train … the great Ezra Levant
    really sticks it to the BBC :-D
    great video

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/global-warming-gravy-train/3428365888001

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    • mikef says:

      That’s a great report from the Sun News in Canada. It made me feel ashamed of our politicians and the BBC. Worth watching.

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  20. #88 says:

    I think it was the Spectator a few weeks ago that recognised that Miliband was beginning to suffer from ‘Crisis Fatigue’.

    Weird Ed, like the boy who cried wolf, has spawned the ‘Cost of living Crisis’, ‘The Housing Crisis’, ‘The A&E Crisis’, ‘The Flooding Crisis’, ‘The (pay day loans) Quiet Crisis’, ‘The Representation of Women Crisis’, ‘The Youth Crisis’, ‘The Climate Crisis’, ‘The Banking Crisis’, ‘The Middle Class Crisis’ (and as Miliband runs out of steam, no doubt the ‘Crisis Crisis’).

    Clearly not to be outdone, and in the same way they adopted Labour’s ‘Bedroom Tax’, the BBC jump on the bandwagon.

    Yesterday morning, very early yesterday morning actually!, Five Live were discussing the money required to repair the millions of potholes that we now have. A story that the idiot presenter at the BBC christened, ‘The Roads Crisis’.

    Once again the BBC and Labour in are in step, joined at the hip.

    I really don’t know why Miliband is advertising for a press guru – he might as well let the BBC do the job for him and save £42k

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    • pah says:

      Perhaps he is trying to distance himself from James ‘Crisis? What crisis?’ Callaghan.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    The other day Tom Chivers of The Telegraph used the Clegg/Farage debate to try and make silly point in defence if the BBC, and sadly (for him) got his facts so wrong that even as a satire it spiralled downwards with him digging deeper and deeper.
    Say what you will about the guy, he’s as much a glutton for punishment as he is smitten by Aunty.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100265903/biased-bbc-but-not-the-way-you-think-climate-change-reporting-and-false-balance/
    Interesting how he kicks off sort of admiring how the BBC takes criticism so well.
    This is not perhaps the experience of others outside his gilded circle.
    Possibly another ‘tell it often enough’ attempt that in the online world of today is simply the start of the latest massive backfire by the ‘we know what’s better/good for you’ brigade clinging to shredded reputations in now crumbling bastions of establishment prestige.

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  22. Thoughtful says:

    I’m just comparing the coverage of the Harperson promotion of the Paedophile Information Exchange, and her very senior position in the Liebour party, and the issue with Maria Miller the Culture Minister.

    It seems that the BBC are not wasting any opportunity to report the wrong doings of a junior minister when they took every opportunity to remain silent on the Harperson issue, only reporting it when they had no other choice.

    Maria Miller has apologised on several occasions, she is not in a senior position like Harperson, and in my opinion the allegations are nothing like as serious.

    Something tells me that so long as the Liebour party want to run with this then the BBC will be their running mates.

    More obvious bias which has gone unstated.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I agree on the comparison with Harman as far as the BBC’s coverage goes.
      However, Miller’s actions and reactions trying to deal with the fall out makes any insincere (now worthless MP to house) apology without value and her position untenable.
      She should not be in a position of power or influence, no matter how junior.
      How other parties and their media PR departments rationalise abuses by those more senior still is for them to get held to account on.
      I’d have thought the BBC would like it just fine to have a compromised Minister dealing with their future.
      Personally I’d like her replaced pronto with someone squeaky clean, competent and with a smattering of understanding whose interests Parliament is actually meant to represent.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        I don’t disagree that Miller has done wrong, but she has not done wrong on a scale like Harriet Harperson, and she’s in no way as senior.
        Neither of them should be in any position of power but Harperson has got away with it despite being as guilty as sin, because the BBC refused to cover the story.

        The point here though is not whether Miller is guilty or the degree of that misdemeanour, but the bias of the BBC in the way it has reported both stories.

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        • Graspa Carrot says:

          Thoughtful… What a load of absolute nonsense you’ve written.

          Miller is typical of the troughing vermin that occupies the House of Clowns. I cannot be bothered to restate, chapter and verse, the history of her behaviour, but had any other individual, such as a Police Officer, Doctor, Teacher, social worker etc, behaved as she had done, they would have been sacked AND prosecuted. However in Westminster La-La land ,you can commit fraud, theft, attempt to pervert the course of justice, and all other manner of offences, but if you apologise that’s all right then?

          If the people of Basingstoke had anything about them, they would de-select her.

          I believe Cameron should sack her now.
          To compare her behaviour to that of Harman is ridiculous.

          What has seniority got to do with dishonesty? How has Harmen got away with it because BBC didn’t cover the story adequately?

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          • Frank Words says:

            It is worth taking time out to remember what that fine bunch in Parliament call UKIP members – Fruitcakes and closet racists is it?

            Then look at their record: crooks, criminals, convicted fraudsters, tax dodgers and friends to paedophiles.
            Add a few other character traits like hypocrites, freeloaders and greedy liars.

            Stones; glass houses etc…

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      • chrisH says:

        Agreed-Miller is just the kind of nomark who gets a seat in cabinet these days.
        As “Culture Secretary” , her job is not needed or wanted at all-`twas a plum given to David Mellor in 1992 by Major and has been a costly, sinister pile of crap ever since.
        I myself would ceremonially burn Tessa Jowells number 666 shirt by way of seeking closure re this non-job.
        Jowell the very apotheosis of what a Culture Secretary would be-useless, crap with her finances and Harmans sob sister.
        But would Tessa agree to wear the shirt again before we set it alight?…some public servant huh?…despite it being a good chance to raise issues of climate change or women being beacons of oppression or such, I bet she`d be off to Berlusconis yacht instead.

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  23. AsISeeIt says:

    Tell us Nick : ‘What will the EU look like in 10 years’ time?’

    ‘About the same as it is now’

    [Help! Help! Left-liberal progressive drowning!]

    One of the few pro-EU arguments Cleggie could find (all of them btw being negative boo-scares) was some guff about European Arrest Warrents.

    Meaning -theoretically – we could merrily repatriate back here to the UK all our murderers… er, cable thieves, plastic card scammers, pickpockets, counterfeit vodka distillers, etc etc…

    And does this work both ways? Can we shift continental criminals back to the EU?

    Not when it comes to Italian Mafia bosses.

    So post-Farage-Clegg the orders have gone out to make it so. (Lawyers permitting, that is)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26899047

    ‘Convicted Mafia boss Domenico Rancadore has been rearrested by police in west London just a month after he avoided extradition from the UK to Italy.’

    But Gosh….

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26612261

    ‘Convicted Mafia boss Domenico Rancadore will not be extradited back to Italy, Westminster Magistrates’ Court has ruled.’

    ‘In an original draft, Mr Riddle [District judge Howard Riddle] said he was satisfied the European arrest warrant was valid and that extradition was “compatible with the defendant’s convention rights, including prison conditions”.’

    ‘However, in a dramatic turnaround, the judge changed his decision following the ruling in a similar case involving the Court of Florence and Hayle Abdi Badre.’

    NB. Hayle Abdi Badre

    http://www.archiviopenale.it/apw/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/QBD-11-marzo-2014-Badre.pdf

       15 likes

  24. Guest Who says:

    On FaceBook, BBC News are trumpeting a ‘rare interview with the BBC’…. featuring….. Julian Assange.
    Uh-huh.

       19 likes

  25. noggin says:

    Someone else sick and tired of the BBC s consistent
    Islamo-nausea
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/31/lutfur-rahman-panorama-bbc-accuses-racism

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/uk-muslim-london-area-mayor-accuses-bbc-of-racism-and-islamophobia-over-corruption-charges

    R Spencer, concise and incisive as ever

    “Lutfur Rahman, mayor of Tower Hamlets, dubs the BBC “Islamophobic bullies.” This ought to show the BBC that such charges are merely a deflection tactic, designed to cast the onus away from a person accused of wrongdoing (i.e., an Islamic jihadist, or in this case, a corrupt official) and onto the accuser.
    The irony here is that the BBC is an indefatigable trafficker in such libels, and consistently, in other contexts cheerfully repeats the charges of “racism” and “Islamophobia” that Lutfur Rahman’s Islamic supremacist coreligionists and their Leftist allies make in order to demonize foes of jihad terror.
    You’d think the BBC would get a clue from this.
    But it won’t.”

       37 likes

  26. Flexdream says:

    This complaint response received from the BBC
    “Thanks for contacting us regarding ‘News Briefing’ on BBC Radio 4.
    We note you felt it was incorrect to refer to the “Poll Tax” in our round up of historic events happening on 31 March.
    We appreciate your concerns and would assure you we always strive to use terminology that is both factual and impartial. However, “Poll Tax” was a widely and commonly used term for the Community Charge at the time of it’s introduction, so we don’t believe it was incorrect.”
    The BBC is still at the same game today with the ‘bedroom tax’, but somehow didn’t like to call Lee Rigby’s killing as ‘murder’ even though that was widely and commonly used.
    Keep complaining folks …

       34 likes

    • Flexdream says:

      My reply sent …
      “When summarising historic events your audience is by definition likely to include those not aware of the facts from their own experience. These people rely on your explanation including the definition of terms you use. Using the term ‘poll tax’ which has a specific and clear meaning will mislead people into thinking that the community charge was a poll tax, because you have chosen to call it that. Many people still trust the BBC and still accept its statements at face value and so can be misled.”
      It wont change the world but it’s easy to do.

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    • Flexdream says:

      btw I’ve just noticed the weasel way that ‘Poll Tax’ is in quotes in the BBC’s reply. They know it’s not the correct term to use. Convenient though how that can’t come across when they speak it out on the radio.

         22 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Indeed it was widely and commonly used at the time!
      But it`s clearly loaded and codespeak for the Lefties to tell the next generation of the “Good Rebellion” of 1990.
      I also remember that “nigger” was widely and commonly used at the time as well-are the BBC going to say that THAT is correct in that it was clearly understood as a word by all involved?
      Thank You George Orwell!

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  27. noggin says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-26883618

    A former teacher at a Birmingham school alleged to be part of an “Islamic takeover plot” says concerns were first raised MORE THAN! 20 years ago.

    Michael White, who was dismissed in 2003 from Park View School, in Alum Rock, said its board of governors was “taken over by a Muslim sect” in 1993.
    He said he told the local education authority (LEA) but his claims were not investigated.

    remember Ray Honeyford

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    • chrisH says:

      How come Tristram Hunt isn`t bothered by Alex Ferguson getting a lecture post at Harvard Poly?
      He`s no fully-qualified teacher now is he?…and we British should insist that he does his stint in Alum Rock, before we let him take up a post abroad-we DO have a chance here to lead the world, so “Climate change” doesn`t have to be our only banner of brilliance for the rest of the world.
      Fergie for Park View..and THEN Harvard…and how come Labour aren`t bothered about our social dumping of florid champagne socialists at Bostons door?

         13 likes

    • Techno says:

      It shows that it is part of a long term plan.

         6 likes

  28. Geoff says:

    BBC3 seem keen to use up their remaining budget on cr@p. A documentary for kids about kids with porn star parents. Preseneted by the ‘star’ of Outnumbered Tyger Honey Drew (WTF?) who’s parents just happen to be porn stars Ben Dover and Linzi Drew (ex penthouse editor) the series will focus on “issues that affect young people such as body image, pornography and dating”

    To think we had to make do with Blue Peter ….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596803/Outnumbereds-Tyger-Drew-Honey-interviews-porn-star-parents-new-BBC3-documentary-series.html

       20 likes

    • Geoff says:

      No doubt the program will entice kids just to Google ‘Ben Dover’ who features this lovely tagline on his website …

      “F***! Aren’t I just the luckiest b**tard in the World?”
      Not only do I get to film all of these fantasic (sic) looking girls stripping off for my camera, but I also get to slide my fingers knuckle-deep into their h*t, wet *******, then get my **** s**k*d into the bargain!! Have I got some awesome little j**z-junkies for you!”

      Apologies for the crudeness, but this appears to be what the bBC are promoting in this program…

         15 likes

      • Buggy says:

        What fun ! Interviewing your own parents about their lives as shaggers for pay.

        I hope that ‘Outnumbered’ has paid him enough to cover the therapy bills.

           15 likes

      • Dave666 says:

        No doubt followed up by a shock under 16s watching porn on the internet after the kids as you say Geoff Google Ben Dover report on Breakfast.

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    • Scott says:

      “A documentary for kids…”

      Except it won’t be, of course – it’ll be on a channel aimed at young adults, and (I suspect) will be on after the watershed. But hey, why bother with common sense, when you can make stuff up and get angry that way?

         9 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        “a channel aimed at young adults”

        You mean the bBC are wasting their television tax receipts on a TV channel aimed at young adults? What have they called this one YAh Beebies?

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      • pah says:

        I would have thought that you, with your years of Nozin’ Aroun’ in the world of journalism, would realise that a programme aimed at ‘young adults’ is going to be watched by kids of 3-4 years younger. Just as magazines ‘aimed’ at young women are actually read by girls.

           16 likes

      • Geoff says:

        But you dont any progeny to worry about do you Scott? Or ever likely to?

        Lets have some more nudging pre watershed homosexual embraces on Eastenders eh?

           17 likes

    • Burt says:

      Looks like nothings changed…BBC perverts still sexually grooming our kids.

         16 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Agreed-the BBc seem awful keen still on sexualising of children so they consent and are “informed”…much the same way as a Jimmy Savile Xmas Annual used to do.
        Yet Scott sees no need for CRBs or why exactly the BBC keep banging Jack Dromeys drum…witness their efforts to make “journalists out of kids in school”.
        Alarm bells should be ringing-but the BBC would muffle any such attempts to warn the nations families of what exactly the bBC stand for.
        Who ate all the PIES?….

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    • Guest Who says:

      Looks like BBC 3′s production teams simply seeing the gaps closing, as it were, with their move to online.
      ‘both appeared in a BBC Open Space documentary entitled, More Sex Please, We’re British which argued for the liberalisation of censorship laws.’
      I wonder if Ms. Harman or Mr. Dromey were guest contributors?

      Still not clear how the off-airwaves move was going to save much money as the only difference is the method of distribution; hardly a significant % or programming spend. And PR is neatly covered by the DM.
      The point regarding ‘about’ vs. ‘for’ kids is an interesting one.
      Even if unenforceable watershed timings are applied, iPlayer/online makes a mockery of these anyway.
      There’s also the odd audience motivations. If about kids but not for them, who would be the audience?
      Given its history, the appeal to many in the BBC and the fanbase it serves does seem predictable.

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  29. George R says:

    Will BBC-Democrat report this, or censor it?:-

    “TOP 5 CRACKDOWNS ON CONSERVATIVES’ INTERNET FREE SPEECH”

    By Ben Shapiro.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/04/Top-5-Crackdowns-on-Internet-Free-Speech

       12 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      I’d have thought the BBC were responsible for more than a few of their own.
      Guessing the % of ‘Conservatives’ at work between 9 and 4, the happy time of HYS posts not being closed (when not deleted), is quite high. Still doesn’t seem to do ‘em much good even then.
      And the watertight oversight that gets imposed on everything from 28Gate to PIE supporters is impressively consistent.

         11 likes

  30. Patrick55 says:

    Linda Yueh seems determined to prove my comment in the midweek thread to be right. For those who have not followed the situation The BBC’s Chief Business Correspondent is posting but suddenly no comments are allowed! Perhaps because she has attracted so little interest!

    And yet according to her twitter output everything is so good!

    Linda Yueh ‏@lindayueh 1h
    “@EdGullick: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/correspondents/lindayueh/ … really good blog if you’re into business and finance. @lindayueh asking the right questions”

    Thanks!

    Odd really as if this is a widespread view surely the past comments would have revealed it

       11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Seems a well-qualified lass going by the bio, but I must confess to having paid her little heed as the only contributions I’ve been aware of to date seemed to be her running around various dry events like a giggly schoolgirl gushing about who her BBC pass got her to meet for two seconds.
      And her body of work thus far does seem mind-numbing, so no wonder the comments were sparse. Almost makes you miss Ms. Flanders.
      Speaking of which, looking at that link, at least ‘Selfie’ Yueh is keeping the ‘are you a ladee?’ end up, as the rest seem a bit hideously Danny-freaking.

         3 likes

  31. Fred Bloggs says:

    The problem with the bBC is that it is a political hot potato, no party wants to be landed with the accusation that it killed it off. So at the next GE 2015, lets have a referendum question like, ‘should the TV licence be scrapped’. A NO would start the death throws of the bBC and the gov can blame the public.

       14 likes

  32. Phil Ford says:

    NOT appearing on a BBC or Channel 4 news bulletin any time soon: Global Temperature Update: No global warming at all for 17 years 8 months – No Warming Since August 1996

    And remember the info on that link is real, observed, actual science – no modelling, no guess work.

       29 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England. It was equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century.

      The fastest warming rate lasting ten years or more since 1950 occurred over the 33 years from 1974 to 2006. It was equivalent to 2.0 Cº per century.

      The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England. It was equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century.’

      etc., etc.

      Harrabin interviewing Christopher Monckton……it’s not going to happen, is it?

         9 likes

    • George R says:

      For dusty Hampstead Harrabin and co:-

      “How did the IPCC’s alarmism take everyone in for so long?
      Climate scaremongers are still twisting the evidence over global warming.”

      By Christopher Booker.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10746497/How-did-the-IPCCs-alarmism-take-everyone-in-for-so-long.html

         9 likes

  33. Ember2014 says:

    Dateline London: Alibhai-Brown mocking Farage as an extremist and then claiming the smoking ban law was only possible thanks to the EU (actually it was very much a Westminster based Act thanks to the Labour Party in 2006).

    Thanks to an unbalanced panel of lefties it wasn’t picked up and accepted as fact.

       33 likes

    • chrisH says:

      If Yasmin hates you-you`re definitely on the right side of history, and the angels will provide.
      She`s the Dacron Shield of journalism, and on a par with the sight of Vanessa Redgrave.
      We should pray for enemies like Yasmin and Vanessa to come hurling bile and striking postures…

         29 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Such a tired argument digging out… ‘laws we wouldn’t have had if we weren’t members of the EC’.

      We are allowed, yer know, to make up our own laws. Who knows, our policy makers may actually hace come up with these laws themselves.

      How did we ever manage in all these other centuries.

         20 likes

  34. onlyne says:

    What is the point of HYS? Just clicked in, only topic up for discussion “Olympia Park opens to the public” – but no actual “open” comments, we are allowed to respond to “will you be visiting?”, “Has the Olympic Park left a legacy?” or, otherwise just watch “Take a tour of the new Olympia Park” In other words, as usual, we can only have “our” say on what the BBC allows. I have absolutely no interest in the Olympic Park, I suspect even most Londoners don’t. Many many items worth having “our” say on, just don’t expect the national broadcaster which the whole country is forced to pay for to allow that to happen.

       10 likes

  35. onlyne says:

    Scrolled down the BBC “Home Page” to World News – clicked on Europe – Main story – Preists and Nun kidnapped in Cameroon, from which I learn that the people kidnapped were Italian – hence, I suppose the “Europe” element. They were kidnapped in an African country by supporters of Boko Haram. No mention of exactly who Boko Haram are, of course. This is apparently a European issue, nothing to do with African islamists.

       21 likes

    • George R says:

      Yes, and INBBC’s apologetics for (the predominantly) Muslim Chad army, is written from an Islamic viewpoint.

      (It’s on INBBC ‘Africa’ news page.)

      There is only one single mention in the INBBC piece of the word ‘Christians’ and not of 30 Christians being murdered by the Chad army in the C.A.R., but of Christians being presented as, without question, perpetrators. Blatant Islamic propaganda, via INBBC World service anonymity.

      For INBBC:-

      “The mainstream media is filled with stories about how Muslims in the Central African Republic are being targeted by the Christians. Rarely is it explained that these Christians are retaliating against jihad attacks against them that displaced thousands of people. Also, rarely are stories like this one, in which Muslim troops from Chad inexplicably opened fire on Christian civilians in Bangui, given wide dissemination.”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/central-african-republic-ten-dead-as-chadian-troops-fire-on-christian-civilians

         14 likes

  36. thoughtful says:

    It would appear that Maria Millers ‘SPAD’ ‘threatening’ the press is only half a story.
    Millers father on being released from hospital recovering from a serious illness was door stepped by a journo and given a particularly hard time. The hack didn’t know about this, but obviously no one would be pleased if this happened to their parent and the threats made against the paper apparently concerned this.
    It’s not unreasonable to expect hacks to behave in the manner set out in the Leveson report, in this instance it would appear that cross purposes intervened, and the threat was made about this issue, not the reporting of expenses.

       7 likes

    • John Anderson says:

      No – the hack was trying to stand up a story that Miller had been misusing expenses by claiming on a house as her second home when her parents were in fact living there. The hack did not know that the father had just come out of hospital.

      If miller had a complaint – she should have made it to the journo herself, or to an editor. She should not be using a person paid out of our taxes to do this for her. And the person should never have mentioned Leveson – or rather, “flagged up” Leveson. Anyone listening to the conversation is bound to regard it as threatening in tone. “Lay off or else”.

      Miller needs to resign. Another Cameron blunder.

         14 likes

    • chrisH says:

      The Telegraph say the opposite(p.5 in this mornings edition).
      And-in a choice between believing the Telegraph-and the likes of Maria Miller and the elite who are covering for her…and given what we know from 2009…it`s safe to say that the telegraph are telling the truth, whereas the likes of Miller/Hindley are lying through their teeth.
      That phone call confimrs the nature of the likes of Joanne Hindley and her boss Maria Miller.
      Sack her!

         13 likes

  37. Deborah says:

    I switched over to Radio 2 in the car on Saturday lunchtime to hear Graham Norton interviewing someone who was withering on about why the British shouldn’t celebrate WW1. I guessed it was Molpergo and guessed right. It is obviously his crusade and the BBC are giving him plenty of publicity for his anti war stance. But why doesn’t anybody tell him nobody is celebrating 100 years since the start of the Great War, even the BBC themselves are very careful to say commemorating.

    Apparently 2million people have seen War Horse I the UK alone, Molpurgo says it is a pity that each one hand’t bought a book as they left the theatre. even Graham had to tell him not to be greedy.

       24 likes

    • Wild says:

      He seems to have done well financially out of the First World War. Making up claims about people celebrating the fact that the war took place is presumably to expunge that awareness.

         21 likes

  38. Philip says:

    A BOOM YEAR for HM Revenue and Customs!! (HMRC has reported a ‘boom’ year from years 2012 to 2013 combating tax evasion through the use of ‘personal services companies’ – as used by BBC’s TV and Radio ‘celebrities’ including Chris Moyles who claimed to be working as a used car salesman in 2014 is not unique for the BBC.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Radio-DJ-Chris-Moyles-claimed-second-hand-CAR-DEALER-save-1-million-celebrity-tax-avoidance-scheme.html

    Meanwhile in a report by HMRC it said 256 investigations into which two thirds were ‘false’ claims. Tax evasion in 2012 involved highly paid ‘top’ senior executives in the public sector and (of course) primarily the BBC executives and presenters who all claimed to be ‘self employed’ . This included BBC TV presenters such as ‘Fiona Bruce’ who were advised by the BBC to become ‘one-man’ companies to avoid paying (NI) National Insurance contributions and pay (corporation) tax of 21% on their BBC earnings. More than 100 BBC executives are currently earning six-figure salaries and three ‘top’ BBC executives earn over £1million each. Excluding another 150 managers who received £25 million in severence pay according to (NAO) National Audit Office in 2013.
    (2013) Evidence still suspect on BBC ‘pay awards’…
    http://news.sky.com/story/1114468/doubts-cast-over-bbc-trust-pay-off-evidence
    (2014) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/More-BBC-executives-earning-six-figure-salaries-despite-pledge-curb-pay.html‎

       14 likes

  39. Jeff Waters says:

    ‘Those who interacted closely with Mr Bush during his White House years reckon he was unrecognisable from the two-dimensional figure who lent himself to such easy caricature.’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26890910

    Hard to imagine the BBC ever describing Obama as a two dimensional figure…

    Jeff

       17 likes

    • therealguyfaux says:

      At least the people in Bush’s paintings were recognizably who they were and weren’t the Jesus Monkey, but of course, that would be chalked up to his lack of “that vision thing,” as his father was reported to have said. Obama, on the other hand is seen as “visionary,” while some might argue, “Oh yeah– he’s ‘seeing things,’ all right.” Of course, the latter must obviously be reactionary racists who are actively cheering for Obama to fail.
      Monkey+Jesus+Loves+You.jpg

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  40. George R says:

    Has Ms Jolie been appointed as U.K’s Minister against Rape and Sexual Violence?

    I note that Beeboid Ms Mishal Husain was well to the fore in the visit to Bosnia. Such particular visits are not selected as some kind of hidden agenda, are they?

    Of course, if the U.K political class were really concerned with such gruesome inhuman activity, it could start by campaigning against such criminal activity in Britain, in places such as Rochdale, Oxford, etc.

       21 likes

  41. stuart says:

    peter hains got 2 bites of the bbc cherry this week by appearing on the very left wing student type heckling question time audience on thursday then any questions on friday,a bit of pro labour party bias there i reckon from the bbc producers,where was in a week when nigel farage whipped the liberals was nobody from ukip on question time or any questions.why was that i ask,anyway a sneak but sick inducing preview into next weeks question time from the bastion of socalism and marxism west london.first 2 guests announced today is as follows no1.the dreadfull i was educated in a private school who had links to the paedophile information exchange in the 70s harriet harman,no2.the mockney guitar strumming millionaire marxist who loves multi culturism and diversity that much he chose to move away from diverse london down to leafy devon in his 1 million mansion whos council of all things is controlled by conservatives,not much diversity there billy boy heh.question time next thursday will be dreadfull listening to these 2 champayne socalists lecturing us on how great diversity,multi culturism and gay marriege is.but i will still watch it in suffering.

       21 likes

    • Phil Ford says:

      I agree Peter Hain seemed to making the rounds of compliant and ever-willing BBC studios immediately after the second Farage/Clegg ‘debate’, but I seem to recall listening to Neil Hamilton (UKIP) on yesterday’s repeat of Friday’s Any Questions and, again, as far as I recall, isn’t comrade Bragg’s palatial country dacha in Dorset, rather than Devon..?</h ref)

         2 likes

      • Doyle says:

        Dorset, Devon … it’s the same thing, well away from the enrichment he espouses.

           5 likes

  42. Dave666 says:

    Thanks for contacting us regarding BBC News Channel’s reporting on 2nd April 2014.

    We understand you’re unhappy with recent coverage on the deportation of Yashika Bageera as you found it to be biased and failed to report on all areas of the story.

    We can assure you of our commitment to impartial reporting. We seek to provide the information which will enable viewers to make up their own minds; to show the political reality and provide the forum for debate, giving full opportunity for all viewpoints to be heard.

    It is not always possible or practical to reflect all the different opinions on a subject within individual reports. Editors are charged to ensure that over a reasonable period they reflect the range of significant views, opinions and trends in their subject area.

    The BBC does not seek to denigrate any view, nor to promote any view. It seeks rather to identify all significant views, and to test them rigorously and fairly on behalf of the audience.

    We regret on this occasion you felt the need to complain and be assured that we’ve registered your concerns on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that’s made available to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, programme makers, channel controllers and other senior managers.

    The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.

    Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

    Kind Regards
    Will That was the reply to this: Full Complaint: A few years ago I made a complaint about your coverage of Gamu Nheng, The coverage of the deportation of Yashika Bageerathi seems to show that nothing at all has changed in your reporting on these cases.The story was covered on BBC Breakfast. All we heard was a teacher and a pupil from the school she attends telling us she is good at Maths. There was no illumination as to why the family ended up in the UK and not any other country. The coverage continues tonight in exactly the same vein. To inform your viewers I was under the impression that all sides of a story should be represented. As usual we are not informed of the legal position or shown a representative of the Border agency. The coverage leans heavily on trying to pull at heart strings and very little else. Can you therefore explain to me why only one side of this story has been aired.

    This is in fact a template reply as I’ve had exactly the same response on several occasions. They want to give all the information for the viewer to make up their mind. But then have time restraints to reflect all the views. How exactly is that unbiased and giving all the information? Were the significant views rigorously tested? The answer is obviously no. All they did was run a sob sob story, which as I stated earlier lead at least viewer to think they were talking about a 14-15 year, old not an adult. I do believe I will re-complain as I do not think this represents a reasonable reply.
    For anyone who has not complained in the past about something you unhappy about this is an example of the kind of fob off you will get. If indeed you get a reply at all a few years ago I was having to follow up complaints that I had made only to receive no reply and then find the reference number had been deleted. At the end of the day we are paying a licence fee for a service like this. All I want at the end of the day is to be given both sides of a story so I can make my own mind up, is that really asking too much?

       24 likes

    • John Anderson says:

      It is a double insult. First they are biased – always in one direction.

      Then they have a complaints system that is deliberately designed to fob off the public, delay, waffle – and generally avoid dealing properly with the complaint.

      Arrogance all round. Close them down.

         28 likes

    • Lynette says:

      The BBC complaints system only takes you seriously when you re-complain and persist that your complaint is taken to a higher level.
      You are within your rights as a publically funded broadcaster should be giving you a service that is fit for purpose ie giving both sides of a story so that you can make your mind up.

      Let us know how you get on !

         11 likes

      • Dave666 says:

        It’s Sunday morning the Members of Dave Towers are up and ready for parambulations around the estate. Just turn on BBc breakfast before I leave . Oh the BBc news wheel is back on FOOD Waste!!!, Anyone following my rantings will remember I complained some time ago when this story first came to my attention and a presenter at a waste depot failed to find any significant waste. Of course as usual when I complain I was wrong. Since then this story pops up with regularity on BBc Breakfast Bingo stories. These are Fatty food now including sugar, alcohol & obesity. Hang on they have footage of food waste this time. But wait what is being dumped? Pumpkins. Yes pumpkins. I for one would expect these to be dumped as I imagine the majority are made into lanterns. Mrs Dave666 did make pumpkin pie but Mr Dave666 thought it was pooh.and carried on eating his Quail. The call is for supermarkets to ban two for one offers the inference being buy one throw one away. Dave666 towers still has the solution to this….it’s called a freezer.

           16 likes

        • Dave666 I agree…but I must make the point that there is no organisation better placed to tell us all about waste than the fine body that is the BBC.

             16 likes

          • johnnythefish says:

            Yes, wonder what they did with that ‘old’ (less than one year) carpet?

               1 likes

      • Dave666 says:

        Thanks Lynette Dave666 is a veteran of complaining to the BBc dating back to 2008 with the shockingly abysmal even by BBc standards “white season”. This program http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r3qyw
        I found to be one of the worst cases of propaganda since the third Reich. Carefully selected English workers (the BBc said they were not) taken on to do jobs, that migrants were doing, that the majority of them were obviously going to fail at (the BBc said that was not the intended outcome). That lead to a continued series of complaints by Dave 666 against what Dave666 viewed as anti-English bias. You know the Albanian chef shown stating The English are lazy etc etc.. Of course the outcome was as always that I was wrong. I will of course always post the results and communications of any complaint I make on line as I always say we are paying for this.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Of course, ‘at higher level’ really the only difference is a new grade of drone, tweaked default blow-offs and even more cynical semantics to ensure closing for comments.
        This was an interesting story on the BBC today in complement:
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26908940
        Just fill in the blanks:
        “[. ] should no longer have the power to police their own standards and ethics, the watchdog in charge of [. ] has said.
        Same three letter acronym for both.
        Trust me, it’s worth it.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          I’m searching hard in the old memory banks to recall a BBC interview where a member of the Labour shadow cabinet was asked whether a colleague openly supportive of a prominent paedophile organisation should resign.

          Still searching…

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    • Frank Words says:

      An interesting post Dave.

      I gave up complaining to the BBC in exasperation some years ago – so well done to you (and others) that continue the fight.

      By comparison I had cause to complain to my local ITV broadcaster Meridian a year or two ago. The item concerned the work of Aldermaston. At the end of the piece was an interview outside the gates with an anti nuclear protester. He was allowed to say his piece with no questioning, no balance, no reply from the AWE. It was a farrago of unchallenged assumptions.

      Well I complained. I got an apology, an acknowledgment that my points were valid and that such an unbalance report would not happy again.

      How refreshing.

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      • Deborah says:

        I try to limit my complaints to the worst instances of bias, so that the BBC complaints department doesn’t think ‘Oh, here is that loon again’. I don’t think it makes any difference to the success of complaining (zilch) but I just hope they then have more weight (hope but with little confidence).

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        • Guest Who says:

          Deborah, I know you know but just to stress that volume of complaints is irrelevant to how they should be treated if valid.
          Allowing the BBC the notion of a legitimate complaint being anything else than just that, or there are ‘grades’, simply plays into their hands.
          The sooner it sinks in that they get complaints because the BBC keeps stuffing up and not learning from mistakes (possibly by the BBC complaints department consigning everything by default to the file they pretend the editors read), the sooner sanity is restored to the actual asylum with the loons in charge that is CECUTT.

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          • Lynette says:

            Not sure that the number of complaints doesn’t make a difference. Some years ago, when Channel 4 noted that 12 people from “your side” complained which was “an unusually high number” there was a much more detailed response to the complaint. .

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  43. Thoughtful says:

    Broadcasting house this morning, and ALL the guests, plus the reporter are ‘horrified’ that UKIP are so popular and that they might have some MPs elected at the next election.

    The host gives them free reign to explain why they are ‘horrified’, and comes the reply – “well he said that 75% of laws are made in Brussels when they’re not”. Illustrating perfectly the ridiculous language being used by those who are personally terrified that someone with an opinion different to their left wing fascism might be elected.

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    • Ralph says:

      I’ve always assumed that like Dateline London and the now defunct Newsnight arts review, Broadcasting House is a very clever parody.

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    • Frank Words says:

      Well, lets be honest. It’s no surprise that the BBC will give a soapbox to any anti -UKIP talking head that happens to be strolling past Broadcasting House – that Ivory Tower of institutionalised cant and hypocrisy. The BBC and the “progressive” establishment love the EU, have contempt for the masses and disdain for democracy. All the stops will be pulled out between now and May to try and undermine the anti EU message.

      As for the hyperbole – well we can all remember the lunatic Labour ranting about “24 Hours to Save the NHS”.

      I bet Mr Talking Head wasn’t phased by that…….

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      • Frank Words says:

        After a modest bit of research I think that the Mr Talking Head in question is BBC favourite, lefty “comedian” David Schneider, a name familiar to readers of this site.

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    • John Anderson says:

      I heard them using the word “terrified” of UKIP.

      What metro wusses !

      The only reason given,, by one of the nonentities (where do they find them?), was that Farage had claimed that 70% of our laws now start in Brussels. But that is exactly what an EEC Commissioner claimed a month or so ago. So even if Farage was exaggerating a bit, the thrust of his argument is valid. We have lost much of the sovereignty of Parliament on which our ancient constitution had evolved.

      What they should be terrified or horrified at is the outright lie by Clegg who was claiming that only 7% of our laws are driven by the EU. That is a deliberate, pre-planned misstatement by the Deputy PM. Not a minor understatement – a total porkie.

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      • Frank Words says:

        Yes – person in question was Viviane Reding. She also thought the British were too ignorant to hold a referendum on EU membership.

        Brick by brick they are building a dictatorship where the only power that you will have is to elect glove puppets who rubber stamp decisions made by an unelected bureaucracy.

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        • zoid says:

          …and they want ‘a europe of regions’ because small clusters of people (catalonia, scotland etc) are easier to coerce and control than large nation states.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        As a democracy we should have 0% of our laws made by an unelected bureaucracy.

        A challenge from that point of view to someone like, say – um – Mandelson, might just help the BBC with its aspirations to ‘impartiality’.

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    • chrisH says:

      Still, I enjoyed the bit where Paddy shut the windy woman up in the hope that he could slime Jacob-Rees-Mogg as being a nimby….clearly any attempts at argument don`t matter as longs as wee Paddy gets his soundbite to attack a Tory.
      Flopped completely as well-for Rees Mogg is cool manners itself, and stuffed Paddys pretensions at being the Peoples Tribune into a bodybag.
      Paddy though had given the BBCs game away-we can listen to techie twaddle and history of renewables another time sister…Jacob`s ass is mine, and maybe I `ll get a Harrabin Award for it! Let`s hope at least one Greenie got the message that their campaign is just a pleasure cruise for BBC rentarebels!
      Bit thick I know-but we can hope!
      Desperate effort by Paddy-his mum was big at Bletchley you know, wonder if HIS prep school had a wind turbine then?
      Such is the lollardish cant of the BBC stiffies on a Sunday…and a warning to anybody who chooses to listen to BH instead of getting along to church.
      Clearly rots the brain being a Beeboid.

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    • Flexdream says:

      Frankly it doesn’t matter what the percentage of UK laws passed by the EU is. What matters is their impact and lack of accountability.
      Where did the British fishing fleet go?

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  44. bogtrott says:

    can’t wait until 75% of the uk votes UKIP , the BBC will not know what to do then. The bbc can continue with the bashing as it does them more harm than UKIP and people will see its not balanced and begin to hate the dear old Auntie

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  45. George R says:

    “BBC accused of spending millions of pounds on a ‘wasteful jolly’ at the World Cup 2014.

    “THE BBC was last night accused of spending millions of pounds of licence fee payers’ money on a “wasteful jolly” at the World Cup in Brazil.”

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/468926/BBC-accused-of-spending-millions-of-pounds-on-a-wasteful-jolly-at-the-World-Cup-2014

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    • chrisH says:

      Any worries from the BBC about the deaths of indigenous people?…the rainforests trashed and splayed for the stadia?…the hideous waste of floodlighting for footie in places where energy is needed for more urgent stuff?….the scandals of kits, balls and their manufacture and seedy branding cons?…the democratic deficit of FIFA, the grab bags like Splatter and Platitudi?…the waste of kerosene flying these roasting millionaires around the vast airspace so they can abuse, exploit, screw, drug test for the BBCs media-with Lineker etc well able to pay for their jollies themselves, and not at our expense?
      The booze and unhealthy eating attached to this national waste of health, time and life by our lardarse bilious cretinous fans in late nite pubs?
      Nah-course not…the Great God Sport must be assuaged, and cossetted…hence the silence over Bahrain this year!
      Guess the favellas and street riots will have to wait until the WC is over…then they can fly out again to tell us of inequality

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  46. All Seeing Eye says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-eu-26890988

    In a story about extreme fascist parties in the EU, the BBC insert a question asking why UKIP has not signed up to the alliance!

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  47. DICK R says:

    So called BBC news this morning devoted about 20 minutes to two sodomists getting ‘married’ .
    It seems Blair rubbed our noses in diversity ,now Cameron is rubbing our noses in perversity all with the help of the BBC of course.

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    • Geoff says:

      Andddddddd cue Scott……

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    • Phil Ford says:

      Dick, it’s worth mentioning that not all ‘sodomists’ go in for the practice – in fact, far from it. Also, I’d be interested to know what proportion of heterosexuals go in for the practice – I think you might be surprised to learn the figures.

      As a non-sodomising queer myself, I often find the naked homophobia sometimes displayed on these boards quite insulting, but I realise that, in sense, wishing to be a part of a free-speaking forum like this carries certain caveats; as a UKIP-voting queer who still has broad agreement with the party’s position on ‘gay marriage’ (civil partnerships gave me all the equality in law I needed to feel ‘included’ and I still see no need for the LGBT ‘community’ to pick a fight with Christianity – Islam is another matter entirely), and as someone who is also steadfastly opposed to the EU, CAGW and the BBC’s institutional liberal fascism, I’m fairly used to having to grin and bear occasional insults along the way…it would be nice, however, to see a little more restraint in the use of such generalisations which equates all homosexuals as ‘sodomists’. It just isn’t the case. Just as it isn’t for all heterosexuals.

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      • Deborah says:

        Phil, whenever I read some of the strongest anti-gay comments on this site, I blush and think how unfair on you and any other gay contributors. The problem is that there appears to be a higher than average number of gays and lesbians who appear on the BBC and push the gay and lesbian agenda beyond what is reasonable. Evan Davies, for example, seems to bring his own sexuality into the number of items about gays on the Today programme, whereas as far as I am aware Jane Hill on the TV news could be gay, straight or some where in between and it really doesn’t matter.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Broadly agree with you Phil.

        You make some interesting points.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        I must really commend your broad mindedness Phil.
        Gay or not, you are a fine example for any human being to follow in terms of intelligence and roundedness.
        Pleasure to ‘know’ you.

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  48. Thoughtful says:

    ComRes have a new poll of European voting intentions in the People tomorrow. Topline figures for those 10/10 certain to vote are CON 22%(+1), LAB 30%(+2), LDEM 8%(nc), UKIP 30%(nc), Others 10%

    There is also a new Survation poll in the Mail on Sunday which has Westminster voting intentions of CON 29%(-5), LAB 36%(+1), LDEM 10%(+1), UKIP 20%(+4) and European voting intentions of CON 21%(-6), LAB 34%(+2), LDEM 9%(+2), UKIP 27%(+4)

    Topline [UK] voting intentions are CON 34%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 12% – a five point Labour lead

    [Europe] UKIP have opened up a five point lead over the Conservatives in third place: CON 23%(-1), LAB 30%(-2), LDEM 9%(-2), UKIP 28%(+5).

    If you took only those certain to vote the position would be even better for UKIP, putting them in first place on 34% to Labour’s 27% and the Conservatives in a distant third.

    Taken from http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

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    • Eric says:

      Interesting. Turn out at European elections is usually low and it is the politically committed that vote. Could mean a good showing for UKIP.

      That being the reasoning – there will be (as I have predicted) a campaign to undermine UKIP. Expect smear stories.

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  49. George R says:

    Re-Muslim Brotherhood in Britain, will INBBC be getting one of its favourite Muslims, Tariq Ramadan, for speak for it?

    ‘Daily Mail’:-

    “David Cameron’s religious adviser is descended from founders of the ‘terrorist’ Muslim Brotherhood.
    “PM facing embarrassment over links between adviser and Islamist group.
    “Adviser Tariq Ramadan is grandson of Muslim Brotherhood’s founder. ”
    By MARTIN BECKFORD.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597896/David-Camerons-religious-adviser-descended-founders-terrorist-Muslim-Brotherhood.html#ixzz2y6EcOxc2

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