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I think Mr Milliband must visit this site. No sooner did somebody post on the last Open Thread that nothing had been heard from Ed re the Somerset floods than he raises it at Prime Minister’s Questions and the BBC Radio 4 News bulletins get their sound bite.
Ukip MEP says British Muslims should sign charter rejecting violence – Gerard Batten, Ukip’s immigration spokesman, proposed Qur’an severely needs updating?
clear, concise, and painfully correct
any guesses? … where the BBC stands on this?
a clue, the demonization of Mr Batten/UKIP on this
… has started already
you only have to listen to the ominous background
music on this – to get the “horrified” Al BBC/Guardian
drift
http://youtu.be/W0p0FxXuFjs
BBC WM – Goldberg
UKIP – nasty, disappointing, alienating, schizophrenic, doing nothing.
problem is political terrorism ??? – need to engage?
UKIP extremist? – talk to the elders – why do they feel isolated? muslims are the “new jews” etc
BBC radio WM
Bloody hell that’s a chin and a half.
A face that could sink a thousand ships.
I reported my own post and hope it gets removed as it is unnecessary.
Is that Albamans Wife?
Is it Albaman?
It’s a bloke, hence the Glenn Hoddle in a dress look.
This is the bod who complained that Ukip members deliberately outed him as a transexual.
Apparently when this chap looks in the mirror he sees a Victoria’s Secret model and not the strategically shaved Wookie apparent to the rest of us.
Don’t be mean. Looks like a woman to me. One of the horsey set.
Live and let live.
Alternatively he could keep his sexual preferences in the privacy of his own home, like the rest of us.
Sorry, don’t know much about this person but are they banging on about, well banging?
Is this a gender issue, i.e. a man wanting to live as a woman or is it sexual, i.e. just a getting kicks from clothing. In the second case I would agree with you but in the first, well, as I said, live and let live.
It’s pretty clear, I hope, that I could not care less if he wishes to pursue these interests in private. That is entirely his affair, and I would neither condemn him or judge him. But I would not wish to get on the train with a rubber fetishist either.
These things are private and should remain so. It is one of the reasons I resist the occasional temptation to leap on my wife at the Waitrose cheese counter. Perhaps I should be allowed to practice this inalienable human right. After all, I’m trapped in a man’s body too.
The problem might come when we delve ever deeper into the pit of human sexual depravity. There are plenty of very strange people who think their peccadilloes are perfectly normal and cannot wait to share them with the world.
If, in thirty years time it is illegal to refuse employment to a coprophiliac just because they like to use their coffee break to smear themselves in… the canteen, we can look back to where it all began. Today.
Reply to Milverton
I think we are on the same sheet there. Unless that’s pervy in which case we are not 🙂
Sally Bercow i think
Nope, not got her lips around a wine bottle/complete stranger (delete as appropriate), so it can’t be modest Sally.
it is weird … thought it was D Coulthard in a wig,
and that voice … unnerving …. a bit like D Walliams spouting
“we re laydeees aren t we”
If you read the charter, it’s clearly designed to simply wind-up muslims and leftists, and it has by the truckload today. Mission accomplished. There is no stone unturned as far as Islam is concerned in the charter, to the extent that no muslim could ever consider signing it. And that’s precisely the point. He even suggests that the OIC and Al Azhar University in Cairo should sign it. If that’s not a wind-up, I don’t know what is. Quite funny.
His only crime is that vivid jacket……nothing else.
Do the BBC imagine for one moment that the white population are going to be up in arms about this video and start jumping to the defence of muslims .
It should be shown over again ,it will pile on UKIP votes by the truckload !
Extreme views huh? Well the problem with that is who decides what an extreme view is. It seems to me any view that doesn’t conform to the left/liberal multicultural nation destroying ethos, is extreme. Hells bells just admitting that you might not agree with or be happy with gay marriage is now seen as ‘extreme’,
Yesterday I mentioned about the rise in propaganda puff pieces against the toriesin the run up to the next election and guess what this was headlining the bBC news website this morning:
Lib Dems ‘would stop cut in 45p tax rate’
A senior Lib Dem minister has said any cuts to the top rate of income tax before next year’s general election will only happen “over my dead body”. Chief Secretary Danny Alexander said the 45p rate was the “right place to be” and suggested he would veto any Conservative proposal to cut it to 40p.
Reading the above headline and the crap underneath it it appears that the Torys only care about rich people and that they are going to cut taxes again. But hang on what’s this:
A cut has not been put forward,
So if no cut in taxes has been put forward, what gives the bBC the right to make a party political broadcast against the Tories. silly me they aren’t Labour.
And here’s another one:
West Oxfordshire councillor Steve Hayward resigns live on air
“A West Oxfordshire councillor announced his resignation live on radio despite defending his ability to do the job while living 8,500 miles away in Asia. Steve Hayward was speaking to BBC Oxford about representing Ducklington at the Conservative-led West Oxfordshire District Council. and Simon Hoare, Conservative county councillor for Witney West and Bampton, and a councillor at West Oxfordshire District Council, said it was an “unsatisfactory situation”.
If i read the above would you walk away feeling another Tory money grabbing bastard. But hang on what’s this right down at the bottom of the page. (And I mean bottom)
“He resigned from the Conservative party last year and was deselected from his county council seat.
So he resigned did he bBC, having a look at the local papers from last year and I found this:
A FORMER mayor of Witney has turned his back on politics and Oxfordshire and now helps to run two restaurants and a rice farm in Thailand. Steve Hayward, 59, was elected in 1999 but resigned from the Conservative party earlier this year after being “sacked” from a committee position.
and then there was this little salient snippet which kind of disables the bBC, exclusive post:
He was deselected from his county council seat but technically still represents Ducklington for West Oxfordshire District Council….He will stand down from his district council seat next year and be replaced at the elections.
So actually not the ground breaking story, that the bBC try to make out in which to attack the tories yet again.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/10896398.Councillor_living_the_Thai_life/
Another Party political broadcast by the bBC for the Labour party.
” would you walk away feeling another Tory money grabbing bastard. ”
No, why would you?
It says quite clearly “The former Mayor of Witney was serving as an independent councillor .”
The quote from Simon Hoare is in the 12th paragraph.
As you rightly point out, the only reference to his political affiliation is literally the very last paragraph, so why would anyone assume he was a Conservative?
“So he resigned did he bBC,” Yes he did. He was continuing to claim his allowance and was sitting as an independent.
As for your claim that this is somehow a broadcast for the Labour Party, they aren’t even mentioned in the story. The only person that mentioned them was you.
Dunno maybe it was the repeated ref to ‘Conservative-led’ you know like Conservative-led coalition
Conservative-led- austerity
Conservative-led- anti EU
Conservative-led- anything our twitters/face ache pages betray
The phrase “Conservative-led” was mentioned once in the entire story, in the 2nd paragraph.
The next time “Conservative” was mentioned (12th paragraph) was after it had been made clear that Hayward sat as an independent (8th paragraph).
Unless a reader didn’t understand the meaning of the word “independent” there is no way he or she would come way with the view that this was a “Tory money grabbing bastard.”
Logically you are correct but as ever you miss the point. Why mention the Tories at all? Why is it relevant the WODC is Tory led? You could make a case for mentioning that he was elected as a Tory candidate but he was Independent when he went abroad so his association with the Tories is pretty much irrelevant to the story.
Baring in mind that many people only read the headline and first couple of paragraphs, what impression would be made by mentioning ‘Conservative’ in the second paragraph?
Would they, I wonder, do the same if he had been a Labour or Lib-Dem councillor when elected?
‘Logically you are correct but as ever you miss the point.’
Sums up BiasedBBC perfectly.
Would they, I wonder, do the same if he had been a Labour or Lib-Dem councillor when elected?
I imagine it would be very difficult to find a case with that particular circumstance with which to compare it.
Searching for stories in a similar vein – councillors who claimed expenses while not living in their constituency and not adequately attending meetings – here are the first three cases I found..
In the case of David Clues (Lib Dem) , no sign of a story on the BBC website.
In the case of Lee Jeffery (Labour) , no sign of a story on the BBC website.
In the case of Sara Cliff (Conservative),
a story on the BBC website.
Concerning the London tube strike – and possible confirmation bias of course – but my personal (admittedly anecdotal) experience today on the bus was that my fellow-passengers (well the ones who could speak English) were uniformly vitriolic about the strikers. This contrasts with the distinct impression from the BBC national and London local news “vox pop” interviews that “Londoners” are either neutral (ie “mustn’t grumble” or “both sides are to blame”) or enthusiastic supporters of the strikers. Anything to make Boris look bad, I suppose.
Now if only two innocent people would ram their car into Bob Crow and then lop off his head. Hang this is fatty Crow I am on about, best start again.
Now if only two innocent people would ram their truck into Bob Crow
Two ‘vox pops’ interviewed on the BBC news last night were asked by Nick Robinson: ‘Should the tube workers be allowed to strike?’ They both replied in the affirmative.
But this is not the issue. Boris’s point is should they be allowed to strike when only a minority have voted for it? So the BBC deliberately manipulated the issue to get the answer they wanted.
In another part of this item, the point was made to Boris that he was elected by less than 50% of Londoners. He replied ‘You make a very good point’ but it was cut abruptly when he was obviously about to follow up with an important ‘but’, perhaps something along the lines of comparing elections with referendums.
And inevitably we had clips of Crow and Harman imploring people to ‘get round the table and talk’.
And there you had it – a carefully-crafted piece of BBC ‘journalism’ subtly slanting every bit of its report in the union’s favour. Funny, though – once you know the bias is there, it screams at you.
The BBC – just part of the Left’s country-wrecking agenda, aren’t they?
All lunch time, the bBC was down in Devon pointing out how the train line in Dawlish has been swept away by the latest bout of bad weather. The thing is has anybody travelled on that line. Well if you haven’t it follows the coast and when I say it follows the coast, I mean if you are sat on the side facing the sea you are virtually hanging over it. The question that nobody has asked is why has it taken so long for the line to get washed away.
It has happened nearly every year ever since the line was built.
Quite right. I’ve lost count of the number of times over the years that I’ve seen TV news footage of the Paddington line flapping about in the wind, having been damaged by high seas in winter.
I suppose this is what happens when a ‘news’ organisation (which the BBC isn’t any longer, of course) employs mostly brainwashed kids instead of experienced grown-ups.
It should never have been built. One of Brunel’s mistakes. very scenic but impractical.
There was an inland line closed in the 1950s that followed the Teign valley but that was to branch line standards. I think the old Great Western actually bought the land in the 1920s to bypass the Dawlish coastal bit.
I don’t know what happened to that land. More importantly the old Southern 2 track main line from Exeter to Plymouth via Okehampton was in use up to the late 1960s. still there as far as Okehampton and again from Bere Alston. Of course this should never have been closed but developed as a main line and the Dawlish line reduced in status. It was even obvious 50 years ago but this is Britain and nothing was done. It would have taken investment and foresight and some new works to overcome the problems of reversals at Exeter.
I expect climate change will be blamed for the line’s current woes. As Pounce says it is a stupid place to put a railway.
Ah, the old Climate Change ploy. The perfect excuse to stand looking on with furrowed brows and a great wringing of hands, then do absolutely nothing.
Its what the people at the Environment Agency do best, along with picking up their 130k salaries.
I feel sure that the premier investigative reporting skills residing within the BBC newsroom will be set onto this in a trice.
The branch line from Exeter to Heathfield is still mainly intact with only 4 houses built upon the track bed. But it was only built as a single line and some of the curves would not take the modern traction. The tunnels are still good. Unfortunately the line was forced to close because of FLOODING in the Teign Valley when the track bed was washed away big time and it was proved to be uneconomical to put it all back. The route over the Northern part of Dartmoor at the time of being open didn’t really touch upon conurbation areas but since its closure, the towns no on the route have expanded dramatically and would support a rail service to include tourism for Dartmoor. They have opened the route from Exeter to Okehampton in the summer for Holiday traffic and the trains have been packed. Why they don’t run regular peak time trains to and from Exeter is beyond me. A private railway runs passenger trains from Okehampton to the quarry which has just been closed.
Oh dear, listen to me, as well as having pilots wings, I’m also a railway anorak.
I expect climate change will be blamed for the line’s current woes.
Yes, climate change wrecked the Dawlish line, according to local Labour MP and former beeboid Ben Bradshaw on 5 Live today.
Yeah, Ben Bradshaw, bends to whichever way the wind blows. He also stated last year that the flooding at Cowley Bridge, just north of Exeter at the junction of the Bristol line and the Crediton line was because of climate change. No it wasn’t. It was because of the massive housing increase at Crediton and Cullompton which caused water surges because of reduced drain off. Anyway, it has always flooded at Cowley Bridge, the railway sits on the flood plain of the river Exe!
Maybe the blame for the floods, due to man made climate change, should be attributed to sinful parents in the region who drive their kids to school in SUVs. Isn’t that more scientific than blaming gay marriage for the floods?
No but it’s a great excuse for those in charge to tax them until it hurts then look smug and take the high moral ground.
I was at school in that neck of the woods in the early sixties, and well remember the flooding at Cowley, Silverton, Tiverton, Taunton, and just about everywhere in between, including further east in the Levels. Nothing new.
Except back then I suspect the rivers were managed properly whereas now we seem to have had a decade of neglect in that respect. An agenda perhaps?
I had a look over the bridge there last year and you could see the signal cabinets at ground level. I think they might have been raised by now. Cowley Bridge is always prone to flood.
Bradshaw doubtless does not know where it is.
Typical city type. Why Exeter
is saddled with him I do not know.
But Exeter is no longer the the West Country city of fifty years ago . Sadly no longer just look at the way the University( far too dominant) conducts itself regarding Israel.
I travel on that line regularly. It’s not so much on the coast as on the beach. It would be accurate to call it ‘The Coast Line’, or even better ‘The Beach Line’.
As such, it can’t surprise anyone (except for BBC journalists) that it might get washed away on occasion.
For Christs sake it’s a bloody railway line not train line. Why is our language constantly being bastardised by Americanisms.
In addition the BBC are quite correct in reporting the damage to this line. If they hadn’t have done, I suppose that would have been wrong?
Any one else here notice the dichotomy the BBC has been pulling over UKIP reporting recently?
Any ‘populist’ or report which might present UKIP in a positive light, and they are the UK Independence Party, but, any thing the BBC think they can present in a negative light, and it’s UKIP.
Seeing as most people know them as UKIP, the BBC is trying a negative association exercise.
Start a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. See how many signatures you get.
This way to the egress, ten cents, please.
I see the bBC are running with yet another sob story for Islamic terrorists who have been made to pay the price for their murderous agenda by the victims they….terrorise.
Central African Republic soldiers ‘lynch Seleka rebel’
Central African Republic soldiers have lynched a man accused of being a rebel, eyewitnesses allege, as violence continues to afflict the nation. The man was stabbed and beaten to death and then his body burned in the capital, Bangui.
My heart bleeds bBC, not as much as the dead terrorists did, but hey hum. Mind reading further down the article I came across this:
The violence between the mostly Muslim rebel group and Christian militias – widely knows as anti-balaka (anti-machete)</i.
Can anybody at the bBC please explain why the Christian would call themselves: anti-balaka aka (anti-machete)?
Even a blind man wearing a blind fold, in a dark room at midnight on the dark side of the moon could see the answer here. But at the bBC,
Only Islamic terrorists can be victims
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in BBC speak any muslim who attacks one of another religion is always an ‘islamist’ and never a muslim.
Any Christian or Buddhist is just that, a Christian or Buddhist, never a militant Christian or Buddhist insurgent,…just plain and simple Christians or Buddhists.
If the Beeb were to be fair we would hear them talking of Buddhismists or Christianityists.
Surprise,surprise the bBC expresses concerns about how Hackers : Anonymous’ got hacked by the British Government.
Snowden leaks: GCHQ ‘attacked Anonymous’ hackers
GCHQ disrupted “hacktivist” communications by using one of their own techniques against them, according to the latest Edward Snowden leaks.
Documents from the whistle-blower published by NBC indicate UK cyberspies used a denial of service attack (DoS) in 2011 to force a chatroom used by the Anonymous collective offline. A spokeswoman for GCHQ said all the agency’s activities were authorised and subject to rigorous oversight. But others say it raises concerns.…Campaign group Privacy International is also worried.
“There is no legislation that clearly authorises GCHQ to conduct cyber-attacks,” said head of research Eric King.
“So, in the absence of any democratic mechanisms, it appears GCHQ has granted itself the power to carry out the very same offensive attacks politicians have criticised other states for conducting
What next from the bBC? Concerns are been raised about how the British target: Terrorists,rapists,criminals etc.. No wait
The bBC the traitors within our Midst.
GCHQ keeping ‘Anonymous’ in check?
Good. That’s their job.
Can anybody else see the damned irony here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-26053538
Workers at the Faslane Naval base on the Clyde have voted to take strike action in a dispute over pay. Members of the Unite union, who are employed at the nuclear base by Babcock Marine, overwhelmingly voted for action over a below-inflation pay offer of 1%. The dispute involves staff at Faslane and the nearby Coulport Naval base. Faslane is home to the UK’s fleet of Trident nuclear submarines. Unite said strike action would have a “significant” impact.
Here’s their mission statement as taken off their website:
Unite has always played an important role in UK politics. Our political strategy as adopted by the Unite Executive Council in 2011 clearly sets out our political objectives as:
Winning Labour for working people.
Winning working people for Labour.
Building a broad alliance to defeat the Tories and their policies.
Winning a Labour government which will govern in the interests of working people and towards a socialism for the 21st century.
I wonder how Unite will react if Scotland votes to leave..
Hmmmmmmmmm BBC reporting on Japanese national broadcaster NHK also funded by licence fee, and also accused of left wing bias. The big difference however is that the Japanese government intervened and now there’s a bit of a fuss about it all.
Too early for a link to a BBC online story yet though
Don’t you know that the BBC never reports on Japan? Well, other than to hyperventilate about the threat of Japanese car makers threatening to quit the UK if we didn’t join the Euro (which none of them did, of course).
Presumably, the Japanese must be the ‘wrong sort of ethnics’.
Japan is a proud nation state the very antithesis of all the liberal stands for.
Best ignored lest the peasants in Europe get the wrong ideas.
It’s been argued many times and by better minds than mine that Britain and Japan, were they to ponder the subject at length and in depth, would discover that in many ways their cultures are not all that different– insular nations set just offshore from a continental land mass they do not fully understand and yet must. Their very insularity bred in them a sense of superiority to those continentals, perhaps undeserved. Their uniqueness of culture stemming from relative isolation many find quaint in its more benign forms and positively suspicious in the less-so forms.
“Caliban seeing himself in the looking glass,” I’ve heard it called, when the unhappy truth of how one comes across is reflected back in the actions of others who act similarly.
Japan is different in this respect, however– their suicides are seppuku, a personal suicide based on “Honour.” Britain’s suicide is a collective one, being conducted in slo-mo, by people calling themselves “the Right Honourable,” but who are neither. Japan is Britain without a mass-immigration policy. Hence, they arguably have greater social cohesion. Perhaps this is a factor in why possibly important news from Japan is not paid attention to and broadcast in as great profusion as perhaps it should be– it might prompt people to start wondering, what have the Japanese got that we don’t?
“Don’t you know that the BBC never reports on Japan?”
4 Feb: Governor of Japan broadcaster NHK denies Nanjing massacre
3 Feb: Osaka mayor Hashimoto in snap election call
31 Jan: Japan inflation rises at fastest pace in over five years
30 Jan: Stem cell researcher Dr Haruko Obokata on ‘breakthrough’
29 Jan: Stem cell ‘major discovery’ claimed
28 Jan: What in the world: Japanese dolphin slaughter and risking death in space
28 Jan: Japan revises school manuals to set out territorial claims
27 Jan: Explaining Japan’s huge deficit with three easy graphs
27 Jan: Japan’s NHK boss apologises for ‘comfort women’ comments
27 Jan: Japan reports record annual trade deficit
26 Jan: Japan NHK boss Momii sparks WWII ‘comfort women’ row
26 Jan: Japan food pesticide scare: Factory worker arrested
Hello Dez.
Oh it’s that thing Dez is it? dam should have know that guli-bull moron pro pedo pro bully pro sexist pro ageist pro BBC Fascist would be back !
Hello Guest Who
Hello, Danny Howard.
Have to say, getting two extra likes for a greeting… impressive.
Less so perhaps that it’s about the same for spending all evening compiling lists.
Maybe the same folk just like what you come out with no matter what?
Why thank you. Alas when it comes to garnering likes for a simple greeting then Dysgwr_Cymraeg and his 11 puts my much more modest three in the shade. Maybe the “folk” who liked his or her post just like what he or she comes out with no matter what too?
But last time we “spoke” you were rather less in favour of garnering likes.
Perhaps the “obsession” seemed familiar to you because it was your own obsession?
As for compiling lists, it was in service of the refutation of falsehood. Curious that when clear evidence is provided that shows a post to be ungrounded, rather than dealing with the substance of the argument all manner of diversionary tactics are thrown up — suggesting I am another poster for example or your own reply that focuses elsewhere.
Since you entered the debate, how about dealing with the matter in hand Guest Who? Do you agree with the claim that “the BBC never reports on Japan?” or do you accept that the evidence shows this to be untrue?
But that touches on something I have noticed about this site. It isn’t about discussing whether the BBC is biased, that is the starting point. It serves to support people who hold that assertion to be true and then search out evidence in support of it, rather than a place where the truth value of the assertion is tested. It isn’t up to me as a guest to pass judgement – it is what it is. There are sites that exist to support Arsenal and some that exist to proclaim that they are the worst team on the face of the earth. There is no requirement for balance.
As such I can see why posts such as mine are not popular and why, as I have, when someone’s post is proved to be wrong, the topic is changed or the refutation ignored or some hypothetical is introduced, or failing that just a descent into personal insults and a willful disregard of the evidence. After all going on an Arsenal site to say how much better Chelsea are (even though we all know that to be true) isn’t going to win you many friends.
But, Guest Who, don’t let that distract you from the simple question I asked: Do you agree with the claim that “the BBC never reports on Japan?” or do you accept that the evidence shows this to be untrue?
‘After all going on an Arsenal site to say how much better Chelsea are (even though we all know that to be true) isn’t going to win you many friends.’
Ah, the old moral equivalence ploy and totally irrelevant to a site which in the main demonstrates the overwhelming leftist bias of the BBC with clear examples and well constructed arguments – 99.9% of which, incidentally, you seem unable to refute.
But that touches on something I have noticed about this site. It isn’t about discussing whether the BBC is biased, that is the starting point. It serves to support people who hold that assertion to be true and then search out evidence in support of it, rather than a place where the truth value of the assertion is tested.
Presumably, then, you object to the BBC’s starting point that it isn’t biased? That many complaints are dismissed with “we think we got it about right”?
But I would agree that the original comment was wrong to say “never”. That’s always a mistake, because some obscure web page can often be found to refute it, thus allowing someone like you to jump in and derail the substantive point with a “look, he’s wrong”. The key here is prominence. Does the BBC bang on and on about something or does it mention it quietly and move along, because there’s nothing to see here?
@Roland Deschain “some obscure web page”. Had I only been able to find one example then your counter argument might have had substance. Clearly the BBC reports extensively on Japan.
@ johnnythefish (above and below)
“You didn’t answer the question (yawn).” Yes I did. But you didn’t. Why didn’t you raise that objection on all of those occasions when the site is used in support of allegations of bias?
“feel free to have a go.”
Ok — always one for a challenge. This done very quickly — although I know I am playing chess with a pigeon.
76 posts in this thread at time of writing:
First 10 are nothing to do with the bbc
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:22 pm
A senior Conservative politician suggests it is unlikely that the party will go into the next election without cutting tax. LibDem coalition partner responds. BBC reports (as do other news media). No bias proved.
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm
Refuted
Mat says:
February 5, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Refuted
Umbongo says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:29 pm
An anecdotal observation. No bias proved.
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:33 pm
An expression of the wish of extreme and gratuitous violence to happen to someone. No allegation of BBC bias.
johnnythefish says:
February 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm
I didn’t see the interview so I can’t comment on it.
Next 8 are discussion about a railway line
Thoughtful says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm
An assertion with no evidence to support it. No bias proved.
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:02 pm
This one I did respond to but the post was lost. I quoted other BBC stories that showed reports of attacks by balaka akan followers. Refuted.
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:08 pm
A story widely reported in the rest of the UK and other international media. No bias proved.
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Nothing to do with the BBC
The next 14 are this debate
SilentMajority says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:33 pm
Nothing to do with the BBC
Guest Who says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:48 pm
Not quite sure what point was being made.
Next 5 posts are on AGW
I have a very simple rule on AGW — never enter a debate on it.
johnnythefish says:
February 5, 2014 at 7:44 pm
I didn’t see the broadcast so can’t comment.
chrisH says:
February 5, 2014 at 8:31 pm
No idea what this was about.
thoughtful says:
February 5, 2014 at 8:32 pm
A story about the FT
John Anderson says:
February 5, 2014 at 9:21 pm
A refutation of bias
The next 6 are more interesting.
Not so much a question of bias as poor or lazy reporting. Alas far too common in all media from The Guardian to The Daily Mail. The use of anonymous sources or some nebulous “other”. This is not bias, but it is sloppy reporting. No bias proved.
Ember2013 says:
February 5, 2014 at 11:10 pm
An angry post about computing skills. No bias proved.
uncle bup says:
February 5, 2014 at 11:33 pm
A confusion between job losses and redundancy. No bias proved.
Bill Wright says:
February 6, 2014 at 4:59 am
An assertion of undue prominence. No bias proved.
Alex says:
February 6, 2014 at 7:12 am
The Olympics is a major story. The Wall Street Journal (a financial newspapers) has sent 12 reporters. It is highly topical. That the BBC reports it is not evidence of bias. No bias proved.
ROBERT BROWN says:
February 6, 2014 at 7:32 am
Nothing to do with the BBC
Reed says:
February 6, 2014 at 7:38 am
A story about the Radio Times
Thoughtful says:
February 6, 2014 at 8:28 am
A story that was not reported by the BBC. No bias proved.
I can’t comment on stories I didn’t see. In my experience entering debates about AGW is pointless and I never do it.
There is one thread (on sloppy reporting) that is of merit. It isn’t evidence of bias, but it is evidence of poor journalism.
Job done.
Have a good day.
“@Roland Deschain “some obscure web page”. Had I only been able to find one example then your counter argument might have had substance. Clearly the BBC reports extensively on Japan.”
If you say so. I have no idea what the links are for the pages you mention, but they could well all be obscure. I certainly can’t recall them being mentioned, so I think my point re prominence stands. Perhaps we should coin the phrase “extensive obscurity” for the Beeb?
Can I take it from silence (despite copious verbiage on other matters) on the BBC’s assumption of no bias that you hold the BBC to different standards to which you hold this site?
A job has been done.
The question remains as to its value.
You’ve certainly created, and carefully selected samples in (another) long list.
However, while securing a job in senior BBC editorial is assured, confusing facts with what is mostly what you don’t like, don’t want or are not equipped to understand may not impress even the more bird-brained Flokkers come evening debrief.
As for the role of self-elected House Monitor on content, one can only look forward to your tasking, to the same level, a force-paid media monopoly for straying beyond remit in the same way you are devoting to a small, niche blog no one pays attention to.
Do let us know how that works out.
Unless your contention is the BBC is incapable of error, in which case a seat on the Trust beckons.
‘Why thank you.’
Mornin’ Danny. You are most welcome.
But last time we “spoke” you were rather less in favour of garnering likes.
Oo, a ‘gotcha’? Actually, I am on record as not seeing much point in them as they are anonymous. But they can be fun to trade in, especially when your colleagues get on high horses about who might have supported a person and their point (got your two extra, I see), or not. So I cheerfully cherry pick in this area just to mess with guys like you, as you take yourselves so darn seriously it serves just fine. And I can see your devotion to cherry picking is already at fever pitch today. That latest (doubtless down to one word columns by now) must have kept you up all night. I may yet try and track down the actual post of mine you ‘sampled’. Watch this, narrowing, space:)
You are not here to debate. You are here to obfuscate, derail and distract. But, every so often, an opportunity is provided to swoop. Speaking of which…
Since you entered the debate, how about dealing with the matter in hand Guest Who? Do you agree with the claim that “the BBC never reports on Japan?” or do you accept that the evidence shows this to be untrue?
Dragged in really. This seems important to you, so why not repeat yourself:
But, Guest Who, don’t let that distract you from the simple question I asked: Do you agree with the claim that “the BBC never reports on Japan?” or do you accept that the evidence shows this to be untrue?
There you go, feel better? And keep using the name. I like it and can’t see it enough. Quite why you need to repeat it like this smacks of OCD a bit, mind. Now, the money shot. No. I do not agree with it. It was incorrect, clearly. And gave you all you needed. Savour it Danny. Why or how you think this propels you to Flokker Staffel Leader status I have no idea, as you countered an absolute with a few hard-earned archive trawls of trivia. Bravo. And you seem more obsessed with me than the person who wrote it, to the point of dragging my name in when I was not even involved. I wasn’t interested because it was trivial and there was no point. Of course, the choices presented once you did mention me were clear, and I of course ignored Dysgwr_Cymraeg’s sage advice to defend my hon.. actually, no, I didn’t. I saw you’d popped up again and was bored enough to have a knockabout, highlighting what you are all about as I and others posted elsewhere actually on topic.
Which, eventually, you do approach, if from an irony free direction.
As for compiling lists, it was in service of the refutation of falsehood.
You were.. are… correct. Asked twice, so only fair to reply in complement. I see you’re well on your way to drumming up a new set for the day. Have fun.
Curious that when clear evidence is provided that shows a post to be ungrounded, rather than dealing with the substance of the argument all manner of diversionary tactics are thrown up’
To any not immersed in the BBC bubble is just how astoundingly uncurious BBC CECUTT is when exactly the same thing you describe is presented; not to a forum page of a niche blog as opposed to the supposedly transparent, trusted media monopoly uniquely funded by public compulsion. This, I’d hazard, does not trouble you at all?
— suggesting I am another poster for example or your own reply that focuses elsewhere.
I can see this rankles. And you have no idea how much it saddens me. I’ve noted it in my log and posted it on the loo door. Trust me, I appreciate that it is no fun to have your repetitive attempts at trolling techniques confused with another. Which is why, in this case, I didn’t. But I may do so in future, as the BBC does, on a ‘sources are saying’ basis, because in the wonderful world of anonymous allusion the BBC deals in, it seems to get under your skin and prompts silly irony-free replies.
Speaking of which…
‘..serves to support people who hold that assertion to be true and then search out evidence in support of it, rather than a place where the truth value of the assertion is tested.
A noble aim, and one practised by the BBC? Not sure Lord McAlipine (RIP) would agree. Harking back, I cannot easily recall where posters here have colluded to fake evidence and promote falsehoods like BBC staff.
‘It isn’t up to me as a guest to pass judgement – it is what it is. There are sites that exist to support Arsenal and some that exist to proclaim that they are the worst team on the face of the earth. There is no requirement for balance.
So you don’t pass judgement? Got it. No requirement for balance. Got it. Actually, with the BBC… isn’t there some suggestion there migh…should… be?
As such I can see why posts such as mine are not popular and why
Possibly a few beyond you can. May be for different reasons.
And those are what serve the BBC so poorly if meant in defence. Keep it up.
A very long answer and I could not have asked for a better example of exactly the point I am making.
Why do you feel the need to insult people? It was Mrs Thatcher who said “If they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.” Wise words from a wise woman.
But you did, in the midst of it all, answer the question, so for that thank you.
As for why I chose you, well sorry to prick your ego, it was because yours was the first name I saw and no other reason than that. It was fate.
‘A very long answer’
Your 9am being the soul of concise brevity of course.
‘As for why I chose you.. it was because yours was the first name I saw and no other reason than that. It was fate.’
The chosen one? Yeah, I get that a lot here. Not creepy at all.
‘Danny Howard says:
February 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm
Hello Guest Who’
Until that point I had nothing to do with this exchange.
‘Why do you feel the need to insult people?’
Insult? Mock, maybe. Playing the personal attack victim card might be shaky too given..
‘I know I am playing chess with a pigeon’
Alan, David… stop it.
I know you miss the spice of having exchanges between DOTIs and posters, and the inevitable further hits the BBC takes from the attitudes and abilities of those moved to act for them, but creating these accounts isn’t really necessary.
Please apologise for using the ‘C’ word. There’s no need to lower the tone with that sort of language.
Or it could be one of Mr Cobb, Barabbas, Bron, You’re No Academic, Ned, KingStpuid,Keenan, YouWhat!!!, lojolondon, BongoBongoMan, Clarence, Davenport, Neil Miller, Ted Talks, who have recently made very brief but hilarious contributions to this site.
ROFL
Where are these from, Danny Boy – radio? TV? Which programmes?
Or is it the old BBC news website ploy yet again (yawn).
Curious that when people cite stories on the website as evidence of bias of the BBC you didn’t raise the “old BBC news website ploy yet again (yawn).” objection but you do when the website is used to refute an allegation.
Why didn’t you raise the “old BBC news website ploy yet again (yawn).” objection on any of the following most recent occasions when stories on the website were quoted as evidence of bias?
MIDWEEK OPEN THREAD…..
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:22 pm
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 5:55 pm
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:02 pm
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:08 pm
Pounce says:
February 5, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Dear Mr Miliband Is There Anything You Don’t Want Us To Mention In Our News Reports?
By Alan | February 5, 2014 | BBC bias
Miliband’s BBC Praetorian Guard
Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
February 5, 2014 at 1:47 pm
Monday Open Thread
David Preiser (USA) says:
February 3, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Pounce says:
February 3, 2014 at 6:02 pm
Pounce says:
February 3, 2014 at 7:05 pm
LurkerDroneNumber141 says:
February 4, 2014 at 12:00 pm
George R says:
February 4, 2014 at 3:52 pm
Fred Bloggs says:
February 4, 2014 at 4:32 pm
You didn’t answer the question (yawn).
And by the way, I never quote the BBC news website. In contrast, it’s all you ever seem to be able to quote to back your arguments.
Still, nice you pay us the occasional visit. Or maybe your visits are pretty frequent, but you’re unable to refute 99.9% of the allegations of bias. If the latter is untrue, there are a fair number on this thread alone untouched by your flailing attempts at defending your beloved socialist corporation so……feel free to have a go.
This is another common ploy – ‘you’re unable to refute 99.9% of the allegations of bias’
Refute one and you’re therefore obliged to address every comment?
He’s already done that on this thread. Not a single one of any merit.
If DH seriously believes the links he posted represent acceptable levels of coverage of one of the world’s most important nations then he simply proves my point. about the BBC’s absurdly skewed view of the world.
Quite a number of those look like negative ‘scare- mongering’ stories.
No mosques in Japan so no interest
Actually there are 30-40 …
Re: BBC, Islam, unions….
” To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise “…….. Voltaire
“The arched entrance to BBC CECUTT has that written in metal letters over it”, BBC sources say.
From FaceBook.
BBC World News
Is western media ‘exaggerating’ homophobia in Russia prior to Olympics in #Sochi ? #Sochi2014. From our YouTube channel subscribe http://www.youtube.com/bbcnews
The first half dozen comments were enough to decide this wasn’t worth the effort, subscription or not.
Have to like the BBC referring to ‘Western media’ in such a way.
Can just imagine Larry Grayson saying ‘How bad are we?’
All day the news drones have been pushing the storms and floods as “extreme” and itching to bring on the climate change monster, but holding back because they know that even that temple of firm belief that is the met office has categorically stated that these events cannot be linked to it.
Sure enough though, at 5:30 up pops our old friend Gavin, the hight priest of AGW, Esler with a piece on how “all over the world we are seeing extreme events and now lets hear from Lord Krebbs a member of the climate change committee”. On comes Krebbs to claim, with a fearful look in his eye that we must expect more of this because “it is due to the carbon dioxide we are pumping out”,
Two witch doctors casting spells and voodo, broadcast to millions on the nations main “news” channel. If it wasn’t so tragic it would be laughable !
PS: Esler then follows the above garbage with a piece on gay protests about Putin and the winter Olympics….for f***s sake Gavin, give us break !
The BBC and their 28gate mates are pushing for global warming to be widely accepted as fact so they can get us all to agree we should move onto the next stage i.e. ‘what we should do about it’.
At which point enter Agenda 21 , stage Left.
Madame Lagarde yesterday in the Dimbleby lecture on BBC was giving climate change and rising sea levels as reasons why the IMF should redistribute wealth.
I saw most of that lecture, I couldn’t stomach it all, and it just confirmed the BBC world view. Quite sickening and mores the point, sinister.
Almost unbelievably, Mme Lagarde is a representative of the French RIGHT wing. Incroyable! Their right wingers are positioned somewhere near Vince Cable on the political spectrum it seems.
”At which point enter Agenda 21 , stage Left. ”
Ted Turner wants to get the worlds population down to 2 Billion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKoD-ow1YcM
Best get those B52s out of the desert then Ted Turner, fire ’em up, full load, course……China, everything around Israel, Pakistan, Africa, Mexico…….big job…..
Look up the Georgia Guide Stones, the globalists have put their plans in granite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVpwcT3EfXo
The left-wing bias which permeated the ten o’ clock news last night was so obvious it was almost brazen.
In addition to their poorly-disguised support for Unite and the Tube strike (see above) we had a piece on fracking and another two vox pops:
VP#1; I’m very concerned about the earthquakes it might cause’.
VP#2: ‘Instead of fracking we should be looking at more sustainable green alternatives’.
And that, folks, was your impartial BBC’s take on where UK opinion stands on fracking.
The BBC – ‘Breaking Britain Commonpurposefully’.
I’ve gotta borrow that last line 🙂
Global warming taking our trainlines wawy, Catholic paedo priests getting shelter from those good folk at the U.N(and the BBC mediating on this, as if they know nothing about housing paedos).
Beckham buying a Florida footie team, Beeboid tells vox pop ladies that Crow at least does righlt by his members-would that they were so lucky, World GayDay(aren`t they all?).
Funnily enough I recall no Gay Pride schtick in Bahrain last year over F1…weren`t the BBC more bothered by the extent of lead in the petrol then(and very quietly and to no effect).
Yes folks-that was your news at 5/6 p`.m tonight.
Only wish I had the BBCs problems…and hope yet to become one to the., seeing as they`re such lying liberal tosspots.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/33e00cbe-8d72-11e3-9dbb-00144feab7de.html#axzz2sTu8yslb
Finally a link !
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For years, they have been a noisy and constant presence outside the gates of Japan’s national broadcaster, NHK: right wing fringe groups, complaining through megaphones about supposed liberal bias in the public network’s programming.”
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Now, the protesters have an ally in the most important office in the country. Shinzo Abe, prime minister, has sparked an acrimonious debate about the role of NHK – often called Japan’s version of the BBC – by engineering a change in its senior management, part of what some observers see as an effort by the conservative leader to reshape Japan’s cultural and educational institutions.”
It’s worth a read because the Japanese broadcaster is so similar in its structure to the BBC and finally someone has intervened against the bias. No wonder the BBC are broadcasting it because they’ve caused some outrage with the Chinese for denying war crimes and the BBC are trying to use that as a ‘mess with us at your peril’ message.
Why do I have to sign up to the FT follow the link? (they’re as biased as You know who!!)
I still want to read the article though?
Credit where it is due – Jeremy Paxman takes apart the Oxfam goon over the Sodastream factory and the employment of Palestinians. So just shut up, Yoland Knell.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/05/VIDEO-Oxfam-head-vs-SodaStream-chief-in-televised-debate
Only because Horseface tried to take apart the Sodastream chap, and failedcompletely, so just bounced the Sodastream chap’s arguments at the Oxfam loon.
Horseface, mate, time to call it a day.
You’re bored – but not as much as us.
Oxfam can only exist by continuing the poverty and despair. Sodastream is providing incomes and, who knows a glint of peace in the area.
… and of course an amelioration of this ‘famine’ that’s so concerning the Third Wayers.
I agree with John on this one – very good interview from Jeremy Paxman. The Oxfam guy was made to squirm, and quite rightly so.
BBC are going over time with their “and many say” type of accusation against the government. Attacks that have and need no supporting evidence. Theres a real drip drip of bile in just about every report.
We recently had it about Gove, “many think the government are filling positions with their supporters” who are the many? Oh that’s right labour activists, and of course the BBC.
Johnson… many think he wanted a tube strike. Who?
And tonight…
9.00 news the presenter says about the floods “some say the government are losing control of the situation”. This presented as a legitimate concern, but no explanation of who these ‘some’ are. Without names we can only presume that it is just the BBC trying to present the government as being in crisis. It’s an increasingly common tactic, the BBC inventing a line of attack and claiming it is reporting merely what “other people” think. Later on in the same story their parliamentary correspondent said ” lots here in Westminster think environment minister is out of his depth’… Who they? Labour MPs perhaps? But no further details supplied, the reports merely presented as independent and therefore presumably worthy of some trust.
Has a memo have been sent round the BBC… 2014 a year to the next election, lets really stuff it to the conservatives
The person who has totally failed is Lord Smith as Chairman of the Environment Agency. I bet if he was a Tory the BBC would be baying for his resignation, for his Agency’s failure to dredge the Somerset rivers.
The environment agency didn’t dredge the levels because an E.U. directive supported and introduced by the Labour Party when in power (2008) told the agency NOT to dredge the levels but turn an agriculture industry on the levels into a horticultural one.
*Out of his depth*? If he pays a visit to Somerset, he may well be!
” It’s an increasingly common tactic, the BBC inventing a line of attack and claiming it is reporting merely what “other people” think.”
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Effective though, if even lazier than digging out a one-degree-of-separation ringer to say it and then quote.
Have seen it backfire mind, when an interviewee stopped the Beeboid the other side of the mic dead to ask who, precisely, this ‘some people’ actually were. Of course he had no idea, or couldn’t admit who it really was.
Sadly it can still work when the narrative is spared outside influence and can be blessed with full editorial control from top of the hour radio news through main evening TV TelePrompTer reader-outing to even home page online in complement.
Facts, if they don’t suit, can of course be left out, or consigned to only niche backwaters of the broadcast estate often discovered only by eagle eyed critics (if bad on the bias front) or busy little archive drones (if a sad attempt at waving a web counter to full Monty is to be attempted).
And if they can’t run the ‘many think’ line, the bBBC’s other favourite is to show a video clip of the Conservative target with one of their reporters shouting “are you going to resign, minister?” or whatever Labour’s Press Office says is today’s line of attack.
This BBC tactic of disguising reporters own opinions by quoting anonymous critics was used effectively a decade ago. From my archives, for example Barbara Plett was able to give her own biased view and say on Five Live News 26th October 2004 that Ariel Sharon “will use any pretence to invade the West Bank “
Don’t forget the ‘some analysists ‘ as well .
Or ‘Let’s go to the Chair of Quango X for their view. They’ve just issued a report on blah blah.’
The quangos are very largely chaired by lib lefties of course.
Also, whatever happened to the words ‘chairman’ and ‘chairwoman’? I was under the obviously mistaken impression that a ‘chair’ is a piece of furniture one sits on.
“Änd many say.” Well said Bodo.
they are facists and attempt to influence with any thing other than the truth.
It is the same as saying “The bloke down the pub,” said.
Pathetic. Despairing possibly.
Newsnight report on computer coding.
Oh dear: this was luddite bias. The reporter (and Paxman) were sneering of its worth. Describing computer code as like “Latin” (implying irrelevancy), “gobbledigook” and that it would be better to learn “Mandarin” (presumably BBC staff are looking forward to the time they can suck Chinese c**k when Asian businesses dominate European markets.)
They completely lost the chance to discuss why computer coding is the future for British jobs. And why future jobs will rely increasingly on such skills.
We can’t all become fey BBC reporters on Newsnight. Some people have to make a living in the real world.
mihi videtur qua lingua Latin dicitur indifferens. id magna per grammatica Anglorum eruditio est.
Mange tout, Rodney. Mange tout. 🙂
Mais aujourdui mon ami! 😉
‘ … leading to 100s of job losses’.
DroidNews™ lying through its back teeth as usual; attempting to conflate ‘job losses’ with ‘compulsory redundancies’. The closing of the LU ticket offices will lead to exactly no compulsory redundancies.
Or maybe the Droids think it extremely newsworthy that there will no longer be a job in London Underground entitled ‘Ticket Window Person’. Have to say I don’t.
DroidNews™: hard to say to what extent it’s laziness, incompetence, or bias.
But whichever it is – ‘disgusting’ is the best word to describe it.
Been ‘stealth-edited’ on the bulletins to…
‘losses of 100s of posts’.
Gawd they’re laughable.
But as there’s no compulsory redundancies, the ‘losses of 100s of posts’ at the ticket windows will be replaced ‘gains of 100s of posts’ elsewhere in London Underground.
The Droids have to try really really hard to be this pig-thick.
Hey no bias proved right. 😉
The four-minute long lead item on the BBC’s overnight news has been the UN’s report on child abuse in the catholic church. Given that there’s a lot of news about at the moment it appears that the BBC are giving this story undue prominence because of their anti-Christian bias. Sky News had a better sense of proportion, with the story given half a minute, 14 minutes into the bulletin.
I can’t wait for the Smith Report into the BBC and Savile.
The first FGM prosecution is going to be all over the media soon so probably a spoiler highlighting that Christian = depraved pervert, all as bad etc etc
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/hazardous-hijab/3152650288001/page/2
Whoops
Come on guys – this really is scandalous depravity in the church. Not bias.
Nothing like a Christian complaining about the media covering their rape and torture of chilren. Bad media.
Theres nothing like a bit of original obfuscation.
And thats nothing like……
What about hte common rapes within muslim families Greystoke. Is thhat also reported?
The Russians are getting a very hard time over on the BBC’s main ‘news’ page. Every criticism in the book is being chucked at them in relation to the Winter Olympics. You’d think it’s their fault that maniacal Muslim terrorists (BBC just call them terrorists, as usual) want to ruin everyone’s fun, as usual, and blow things up. The criticism might have something to do with the fact that Putin refuses to give in to the tyrannical rainbow fascists who are trying to impose their ways on everyone else.
I don’t wish it, but as with much ‘reporting’ here, many in the BBC seem in danger of prophecy-fulfilment as they are, whilst doing so, over there.
Given evident editorial slants being driven, ‘careful what you wish for’ springs to mind.
Top trumps journalism should gay issues meet Islamic ones in a collateral sense may be hard to unravel.
I may be away for a while, my Mentadent has just exploded.
BBC just call them terrorists
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Neologism from Gameshow Knobhead
‘asyouputitjihadists’.
Yoohoo other drippy wippy Libbies, Nikki, would never use such a ‘judgemental’ word as ‘jihadist’ even to describe an Islamist murderer intent on turning the world into a caliphate.
A big boy said it and ran away.
Latest in, not about bias i’m afraid, violent, manic cop smashes windscreen of 70plus drivers car for not stopping quickly enough, down country lane i recall. All on youtube. Gets ribbed by ‘mates’, resigns, appeals, gets £440,000 from taxpayer, ta very much. Old guy gets £20k………despair? I do.
Maybe he could step back in to the public sector with the BBC. That payoff is all Luce needs to sign off on his market rate annual salary as Director of Wellbeing, surely?
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-02-04/queen-victorias-grandson-was-too-racist-for-bbc2-first-world-war-drama
“If we quoted him now verbatim we’d all be done under the Race Relations Act, and justifiably so.”
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Probably by the same kind of law officer just rewarded for his contribution to Autoglas.
Interesting what the writer feels was to obscene this time given how chilled CECUTT was ‘in context’ for audiences if not for urban sophisticates recently.
Guest Who – Please, I am not very good in the ‘urban jungle’ and keep seeing you using the abbreviation CECUTT – please enlighten an old duffer like me what it means.
CECUTT – please enlighten an old duffer like me what it means
Apologies.
Coined, given the clear length of the full set, to describe the extent of the BBC ‘complaints’ process:
C…omplaints – the initial entry level, with inevitable default cookie cutter rejections (at least 2) no matter what, bringing the persistent to..
ECU – with at least a manager who actually is just another template-pasting warrior who will continue dismissals based on the odd notion that their personal belief makes the BBC’s stance immune. Again persistence can see this level move to a Director, who will usually be very comfortable in their thinking of what their colleagues believe, and add zero more tangibly other than excuses for pulling the plug as the BBC’s own systems have made them spend so much time not answering why the BBC keeps stuffing up.
This can of course see further persistence required, and will get you to..
TT – The Trust.
Here, in a blue moon, they may concede one so the North Korean election stat comparisons don’t look too embarrassing:
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/trust-upholds-complaint-against-bbc-news-over-inaccurate-tweet
‘The director of the BBC’s Editorial Complaints Unit later said that “he did not accept …
He later appealed to the ESC, which was provided with information..
The BBC’s view was that “the short headline was an accurate summary of the report to which it had linked”…
The [BBC] ESC concluded : “The [other] BBC’s view was not accepted by the [BBC] Committee, and it agreed with the complainant. This time.
But mostly these old BBC duffers will take what edited highlights BBC colleagues give them in secret, ‘decide’ in secret, and then publish that the BBC gets it about right 99.9% of the time, and the public loves them and they are genetically unbaised and fully transparent, etc.
CECUTT.
Thanks – I get it now – CECUTT is BBC complaints process.
CECUTT –
C…omplaints – the initial entry level, reply asking what you’re on about because they can’t decipher your pompous jargon (they’re not alone).
Another day same again. And the next day and the next.
ECU – Independently investigate – again find no merit to the complaint – one person seems to disagree.
Expedited for daily, incomprehensible, vexatious complaints/ Repeats ad nauseum his one success about a short headline tweet.
Takes to BiasedBBC and the Editor’s Blog instead -still don’t know what he’s on about but he’s always right!
And another new person, well, name, joins the fray!
Welcome Greystoke.
Guessing your interest in me is not as fate-related as that claimed by Danny Howard?
In fact what has tempted you out seems defensive to the point of paranoia around the activities of the BBC complaints process.
Still, we both have views, maybe personal or maybe based on the experiences around us, and it is a country free enough to share them.
Mine are sourced from those dealing with CECUTT from the outside.
Yours seem more from… ‘within’?
‘…reply asking what you’re on about because they can’t decipher your pompous jargon (they’re not alone).’
You see, here, I must ask you to clarify. Who is this ‘they’ and ‘you’?
‘Another day same again. And the next day and the next.’
Are you saying people should not have the right to express concerns about the BBC here? How very hacked off of you.
‘…again find no merit to the complaint – one person seems to disagree.’
This one person being? Are you saying only one person complains to the BBC, and they never have merit?
‘Expedited for daily, incomprehensible, vexatious complaints/’
What are you on about?
‘Repeats ad nauseum his one success about a short headline tweet’
I have shared many an example of the BBC complaints system coming unstuck, yes. I think you refer to the recent Press Gazette one? The one which embarrasses the entire notion of a coherent, professional, objective complaints process?
Don’t tell me you are the Director who is cited as swearing blind black was white until even the Trust had to tell them to swallow it? That must have hurt seeing the URL shared in public again. Maybe less wise to react in such a knee jerk fashion.
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/trust-upholds-complaint-against-bbc-news-over-inaccurate-tweet
Didn’t put the BBC, or its complaint process, in a very good light, true.
This is interesting: ‘The unnamed complainant said that’
I’m presuming when you used the term ‘you’ as in ‘you’re on about’, you must have been referring to those who complain to the BBC in general?
If so, the rest of your rant really may make any colleagues in the BBC wince a bit. Do you really take all attempts to flag problems with accuracy (that tweet was inaccurate, wasn’t it?) so personally? So obsessively?
Is that really the best use of time spent, one presumes in employ of the BBC?
‘Takes to BiasedBBC and the Editor’s Blog instead
Well I’ll confess to writing here on BBBC, but last I looked at The Editors it had imploded as a sensible forum for any BBC editorial insights, or indeed anything else. That may be down to the credibility suicides of such as Ms. Boaden, Mr. Thompson etc, where many took apart their ‘it is because we say it is’ attempts and obliterated them. Usually resulting in a closing.
But just popped back.
Here’s the last:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-editors-25961589
Top rated comment (and there are a few beauts, inc. a high rated obliteration):
10. Geraint Pillock
31ST JANUARY 2014 – 13:08
Plurality of news sources is to welcomed.
It shows up BBC News’ deceit on a range of topics. This week alone they’ve deliberately ‘under-reported’ the Lobbying Bill. Now why would an independent (sic) News broadcaster do that?
Guess what? Closed in less than 24hrs.
And the preceding one (the third last still open, despite a tease at 4. It’s so far garnered one more).
No Guest Who anywhere either. Seems I am not the only one?
But thanks for bringing it to my, and now our attention.
‘..still don’t know what he’s on about but he’s always right!’
Not knowing what someone is on about… but then saying they are always right?
If about me I presume I should be at least half-flattered?
You and others do seem to spend a lot of time in various guises trying to waste time and distract from actual examples of BBC failure by little more than stalking. Lucky that here, even when clearly self-identified, you are free to do so.
Speaking of their biased headlines, whatever happened to complaints about the bBBC’s “EDL bomb plot”?
You may be interested in details of another rare “win” against the BBC from 2004 , the procedure and perseverance required was worth the effort just to get the BBC to know that they can’t always misinform the public and get away with it !.
See http://netanyalynette.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/1-road-to-armeggeddon-sat-7th-june-2003.html
http://netanyalynette.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/road-to-armaggedon-resonses.html
http://netanyalynette.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/appeal-to-governors-road-to-armegeddon-3.html
comments on article worth a read ,most particularly
“”A lot of the stuff was just pure racism in regard to the Serbs.”
Are these the same Serbs that Hollywood always has as terrorists? Are these the same Serbs that the BBC goaded Tony Blair into bombing because they were evil?”
It is a bit thick of the BBC to site anti-serbian prejudice
Oh the vibrancy of ISMs and multiculturalism !
Continuing the story of the Pakistani Muslim Labour councillor who ‘hurled’ homophobic abuse at a colleague, and not reported by the BBC.
Apparently he ‘suspended himself’ ridiculous when anyone would have expected Liebour to have stepped in, but then as a Pakistani Muslim Man he’s top of the hierarchy of isms way above a white gay man who counts for very little in the hierarchy.
Now he is being prosecuted for thought crime, but amazingly in the way only Muslims can think, it’s not him who is at fault, in fact he is the victim, and it’s also ‘Waycism’ !
Worth a read if only to sit there with your mouth open in wonder at how this country got to the crazy state it’s in.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rochdale-council-boss-farooq-ahmed-6677521
You just know that if this guy had been a conservative or UKIP councillor, and especially if he had been a non Muslim, the BBC would have been all over it like a rash.
Anyone else sick to the back teeth of hearing about the Gay Olympics?
Sorry Phil Ford, I am not being homophobic but via the BBC all I know about these Olympics are its links to gays in Russia. I know nothing about how big a team we sent, are any of them likely to medal (sorry about making a noun a verb but I must have been watching too much BBC) or even if we have someone in the ice dancing.
Is any body else getting tired of the increasingly triumphant tone of the BBC reporting of the flooding in Somerset, and the high wind said to be ‘ battering ‘ the south coast.
There seems to be more desperate attempts at reporting flooding. The levels have receded in most parts and often the news team reports on large puddles. Failing that there is always the coast: shots of waves hitting the walls can be dramatic.
Hats off to the BBC and to Womans Hour!
Todays(6.2.14) managed to spent ten minutes about the first Female Genital Mutilation case being taken to court.
Jenni and guest are less than forthcoming about the circumstances, but I`m guessing its a
a)woman
b) a Muslim woman
c) a Muslim woman taking action against….well, who knows? Parents? schools, social services, NHS?…
Only Allah knows!
Because the whole ten minutes managed to not mention which community the 65,000 young women come from who are “at risk”.
Yes-FGM for ten minutes, but just like those childhood games where you avoid saying “yes/no”-Jenni and Muslim guest from Burkina Faso manage to avoidspeaking of communities where this is rife, and we need action…NOW!
Yes, more hospital funding, more campaigns so we know it`s not halal…and , of course…more action plans all over the EU like she benefits from!
Didn`t quite catch who Jenni and Burkina Faso lady were implying were the FGM perps…can`t be Islam, Muslim jihadi fundis can it?
For surely they would have said ISLAM and MUSLIM wouldn`t they?…for Jenni did worry that the rest of us down here might think that it`s sensitive-and not to be named.
Luckily the BBC are there to blow the gaff on this conspiracy of silence over FGM…Action Plan in 28 languages NOW!
Day off work to march, leaflets and workshops, wristbands and Action Plans…launches?…but stay well away from Brick Lane and all points east at Aldgate…got that dhimmis?
Islam? Surely not.
I tracked through from the BBC main news page at around 11:00 am and arrived here which is, I assume, the main web-site article currently concerning FGM. The article is actually concerned with the proposal to have hospitals log instances of the practice.
The article doesn’t mention Moslems or Islam but heavily implies that the practice is an “African” problem. Mind you, the sidebar listing those countries where FGM is most common have a heavy leaning towards being Moslem ones. But you’d have to make the deduction yourself: there’s no suggestion (even under the “some say” imprimatur) that this is largely a Moslem problem.
Accordingly, listeners to Woman’s Hour and readers of the BBC web-site are not informed specifically that the cultural effect of Islam is a major factor in FGM practice. This both insults the BBC audience by “massaging the message” and, more to the point, exculpates cultural Islam: BBC bias in a nutshell.
Typical BBC.
“What a catalyst you turn out to be”
“Load up the guns then you run off home for your tea”.
Paul Weller(Eton Rifles).
I reckon that quoting(or better singing) those lines at the BBC ad nauseum would really get under their skin….bloody cultural weekend
rebels and prikteezers in hope of Islamic benedictions…or circumcision seeing as they`re so provocative and in need of Muslim massages.
Certainly this line of Wellers shows the BBC up for what they are…no wonder they didn`t like Camerons liking of the song…only shows the true Eton riffers up at the BBC(or should that be reefers?)
What`s Arabic for “ippycrite”?
Typical BBC.
“What a catalyst you turn out to be”
“Load up the guns then you run off home for your tea”.
Paul Weller(Eton Rifles).
I reckon that quoting(or better singing) those lines at the BBC ad nauseum would really get under their skin….bloody cultural weekend
rebels and prikteezers in hope of Islamic benedictions…or circumcision seeing as they`re so provocative and in need of Muslim massages.
Certainly this line of Wellers shows the BBC up for what they are…no wonder they didn`t like Camerons liking of the song…only shows the true Eton riffers up at the BBC(or should that be reefers?)
What`s Arabic for “hippycrite”?
In fairness, last nights News at Ten covered 3 generations of one family, where grandmother and mother had undergone FGM, but daughter had not. Grandmother said she had it done to her daughter because she thought “it was the Islamic thing to do”.
OK and credit to the BBC for not editing out that piece of political incorrectness. As it happens, I didn’t watch News at Ten last night: I was bracing myself for “news where you are” in London at around 10:30. Even so, I still find it remarkable that an organisation dedicated to “informing” its audience that, according to ChrisH’s comment, Woman’s Hour (surely the touchstone of fearless, chippy feminism) didn’t have the Moslem connection to FGM front and centre as it were.
‘FGM is most common among some African, Asian and Middle Eastern communities. ‘
says the piece. This is spineless, pathetic bias by omission. Any true journalists would hang their heads in shame at these carefully crafted weasel words which mask the source of this inhumanity.
Oh Chris, you’d be cutting your fanny too if your God happened to tell you so.
And you’d be excusing Hitler if he wasn’t so hideously white
hmm eye s tightly shut to reality …
… sadly not only the BBC
http://freebeacon.com/muslim-brotherhood-leader-meets-obama-in-white-house/
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/93508/Egypt/Politics-/Membership-or-link-to-Muslim-Brotherhood-not-proof.aspx
“London had rejected the Egyptian government’s designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organisation, insisting the group is legal in the UK.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-muslim-brotherhood-membership-not-proof-of-extremism-brotherhood-activists-free-to-live-and-operate-in-britain
works by stealth to instigate terrorist atrocities tick
Labelled terrorist by the Egyptian government, tick
widely implicated in the terrorizing of Christians tick
mass destruction of churches in that country tick
instigates Islamism on university campuses tick
connected to nearly all problematic so called “rights/offence” groups both here and in the US
tick
“Eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers”
MB Doc.
I mean, they can t say fairer than that … surely
… what could go wrong? eh Dave
Whilst I agree it is abhorrent I must point out that while it is mainly a practice that occurs in mainly Muslim areas, this isn’t only the case. I lived in Liberia as a child for 8 years and I can tell you Liberia is mainly Christian with a 12% Muslim minority mainly of Mandinkas. If you look at the link provided you will see a 505 to 69% incidence of FGM there which leans towards a cultural cause rather than religious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FGM_in_Africa.svg
Grillocks that was meant to say 50% not 505
And in Egypt which is a heartland of FGM (although the somewhat ‘milder’ sort) it is practised by Christians as well as Muslims. It is a practice that goes back to the Pharaohs!
Fair enough but it is not practiced by our Christians is it.
NO it isn’t. But it IS misleading to imply it is specific to Islam. Most Islamic countries dont even practise FGM.
BBC Parliament at least DID show the DMI Select Committee on Monday.
Featured Mark and Caroline Thom(p)son, the new wallah and an old Trustifarian of the BBC.
Hilarious-in that these gremlins somehow were in charge of unlimited taxpayers money, only to stammer, splutter and otherwise embarrass themselves at every turn(except the new one who`d not yet been turned to Beebing).
These cabbages were/.still are on millions…and for a broadcasting medium, this Gang of Four were a real indictment of just WHO Blair and Brown allowed to edit Pravda, TASS, Isvestia for them over the Dead Years 1997-2010.
Quality on questions were patsy…and they still f***ed up at every question-just not used to being held to account…unless it`s a Coutts one in the Virgin Islands.
Glad I saw it…. if we can`t topple turds like these, we deserve a return from Abu Hamza at Heathrow in a few years!
chrisH says:
February 6, 2014 at 12:50 pm
” What`s Arabic for “hippycrite” [sic]? ”
According to Google Translate it’s منافق which is rendered phonetically as something like ‘mono-f*ck ‘ – so it appears they’re w@nkers too!
Amazing; the BBC dredges up a report from 20 years ago citing how ‘climate change’ could impact flooding, then makes the ‘connection’ between past floods and present day flooding – and finally signs off by admitting that ‘climate change’ actually had nothing whatsoever to do with the present flooding. (Which by definition means it didn’t have anything to do with the previous flooding either)
Spool to 18:28 minutes for the propaganda on climate change.
Hello TomO. I always enjoy your comments over at BH.
I saw this, note how the ‘expert’ prof Simon Haslet is still carping on about ‘greenhouse gasses’ without recourse thus giving the impression that its fact…
William Roache cleared of all charges. I await with inevitability the BBC hinting strongly that he only got off because rape claims aren’t taken seriously and that the requirement for evidence is unreasonable.
Funny you should say that….
Jeremy Whine just had a a segment on this. First up was Carol Sarler (??) putting the pro-Roche case in her usual Glenda Slag style, over a line that sounded like she was dialing in from Mars. Sarler was certainly passionate, but hardly well-informed. She failed to mention, for example, that one of the victims claimed to have been abused in a car Roche didn’t own until the 1980s. Next up – getting the vital last word – they had some whacktavist professional victim all but claiming he was obviously guilty, init. Needless to say, his line was crystal clear and he was well-briefed so it was hardly ‘equal prominence’.
Take this: the professional victim cited some comments Roache had made in the past. And? There’s a good reason why the courts don’t consider comments taken completely out of context as evidence of anything. Apart from anything else, it’s a vital principle of British law that people must be proven to have committed a specific offence at a specific time, not just be ‘type of person who would commit an offence’.
Don’t be shocked, but this vile sleaze was allowed to smear an innocent man unchallenged by Mr Whine, just as he was allowed to deny the existence of false allegations, even in the face of actual convictions for fabricating them.
‘..allowed to deny the existence of false allegations..
Sounds like a call for BIJ/Newsnight.
Using George of the Jungle logic.
BBC, Watch out for that tree!
He repeated the same on C4 News sounded incoherent and muddled couldn’t answer the questions and had to be cut off before he libeled someone but hr did name drop Vine the guardian and that useless wet sop CPS Starmer ! def a BBC man !
He may have been found not guilty but in the eyes of a vocal few he will always be ‘Cock Roache’.
Once allegations like this are made public that’s it – game over. His innocence becomes irrelevant.
How often now do you think his acquittal will be used as ‘background information’ whenever an article including his name is written?
This isn’t a phenomenon unique to the BBC but already they are trying to muddy the waters. On ‘Breakfast’ this morning they had Christine Hamilton, of all people, to play Bill’s friend and some short cropped journo to imply that the allegations were unproven due to ‘lack of evidence’. Lack of evidence in BBC parlance does not mean lack of guilt BTW. Hamilton did a reasonable job of defending Roache but with friends like these …
Incidentally Susannah Reid brought up the accusation of rape made somewhat laughably against the Hamiltons. Naturally the buxom beauty forgot that the accusations were made by a client of Labour supporting Max Clifford during a BBC programme squired by Louis Theroux – who also tried to air accusations against Jimmy Savile during an interview with the Paedophile General. Theroux also crossed swords with Clifford in the same series and I’ve always wondered if there was some quid pro quo going on there. Was Theroux being an investigative journalist, for once, or was he playing someone else’s game? Will we ever know?
It was fairly inevitable really: Christian Patrols in multi culty Tower Hamlets. Cameron’s pals in the UAF are yelling about Islamaphobia and fascism. Has the BBC spotted them yet?
THESE GUYS MUST BE CAREFUL ,THE POLICE WILL SIDE WITH THE MUSLIMS
How very Monty-Python-esque- the C. of E. police are watching you…
According to the Evening Standard, the police have held emergency meetings to discuss this threat from the far right. Expect arrests.
So gob on a stick Evans and Gay Grimshaw are adding hundreds of thousands of listeners to their breakfast shows. It looks like the BBC’s work is done, Britain is well and truly dumbed down…
Just one thing how the hell do they know? no one has ever asked me what radio I listen to…
Smoke and mirrors.
Haven’t you seen the “we-can-see-what-you’re-watching-and-listening-to” vans in your area, lately?
Here’s how:
http://www.rajar.co.uk/content.php?page=about_process
Not seen this on the website yet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10621833/BBC-pays-100000-compensation-to-viewers-harassed-by-licence-fee-officers.html
I’d drop Anne Robinson a line if I were you. Watchdog are always looking for stories about bullying organisations treating consumers unfairly.
I’ve tried a thousand times for her to mention the bbc tax rip-off. Never ever had the decency of a reply.
I have even tried those three old boilers on “Rip off Britain”. They are only interested in the price of biscuits in Asda.
More Floods:
I see that the Biased BBC’s Norman Smith was back at his, ‘The Conservatives have been forced to defend’, best on the lunchtime news today.
He never misses and opportunity. I don’t think that Labour has had to defend anything on any of his ‘expert’ summaries.
Classic moment just then on BBC News 24 at 15.15.
Live report from Moorland, Somerset where the BBC is trying to imply that the end of the world has started due to Tory cuts and global warming when mundane reality broke through.
The scene was set: “people are loading their cars just in case” says their reporter wading around in a big puddle whilst pointing out the dangers of wading around in a big puddle. Just then a white van comes down the road “vans of course can get through depite the conditions”
“where are you from?” the intrepid BBC reporter live on air asks the driver
“the enviromental agency?”
“Waitrose” replies the Waitrose delivery driver on his way to deliver Waitrose shopping despite the alleged enviromental armageddon.
That cheered me up. It’s not so easy to keep the narrative flowing in the right direction when reality silts it up.
So many open goals are missed by politicians when being interviewed by the BBC.
Today on Daily Politics, (about 47 mins in), Eric Pickles rather than arguing with Andrew Neil about Conservatives spending more than Labour on floods, he should put Brillo right by saying:
“we intend spending this vast sum wisely unlike your BBC IT digital initiative, or Labour abandoning dredging”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03tvhnp/Daily_Politics_06_02_2014/
Is it me or do the Conservatives miss scoring goals often. Another example today on Guido Fawkes where Nazi uniforms score a Tory home goal when they should be striking at Labour:
http://order-order.com/2014/02/06/the-only-mp-who-actually-wore-a-nazi-uniform/#comments
The Tories haven’t got a clue on how to handle the media, and I suspect they haven’t got anyone even monitoring the media and the tricks being played on them, let alone actually trying to counter some of the attacks against them.
“Is it me or do the Conservatives miss scoring goals often.”
With a few exceptions they’ve always been like this, too polite to go for the jugular. I think they consider it unsophisticated.
It’s been said many times over the decades that Labour makes a good opposition. They have the killer instinct.
Muslims, Islam and Female Genital Mutilation (FGM), in UK and globally.
1.) ‘Jihadwatch’ has had this recently:-
http://www.jihadwatch.org/?s=muslims+and+FGM
2.) Islam Not BBC (INBBC) has this:-
“Female genital mutilation: Hospitals to log victims”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26049733
-Another massive political, economicand cultural cost to British people, via open-door, mass immigration.
Tempting though it is to comment, I simply share these from FaceBook, noting that what they have garnered so far may require the Flokkers here to redeploy, PDQ, to try and salvage what’s left of the BBC’s credibility on social media. Or news:
The Today Programme
The BBC’s Phil Mackie looks at the need to provide more land for Islamic cemeteries.
Do we need more Islamic cemeteries?
audioboo.fm
Should there be a national effort to provide more land for Islamic cemeteries? The BBC’s Phil Mackie finds out more.
BBC News
The Taliban have released footage of a dog “belonging to US troops” they claim to have captured during fighting in eastern Afghanistan last December: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26062679
Its future is uncertain as dogs are considered unclean by Afghans and their use by international forces in house searches has been controversial.
Phil Mackie tells us that there is a proposal for a 4,000 plot Muslim cemetery at Catherine-de-Barnes, (not exactly a ‘Muslim’ area). While there is no space for the white Christian burials it is vital that plots are found for the quarter million or so Muslims who reside in nearby Birmingham.
Interesting numbers: That must mean that 25% of Birmingham’s population is now Muslim (Don’t worry Muslims only represent 2% of the UK population). It also implies that at least another 60 rural locations need to be taken over just to cope with the existing ‘Birmingham’ Muslims, let alone allowing for natural growth.
Actually, there was a spokesperson from Birmingham talking about this on R5L this morning (around 6.50am). He sounded Asian and had a Muslim-sounding name, from what I recall. No matter.
This spokesman did, however, talk about a “demographic timebomb” and the rapid rise in the Muslim population in the UK and the need to find 4 million burial plots in the UK in due course simply for all the Muslims who are already here.
I’ll be honest here and admit I find it almost frightening how quickly the country is changing. I have two young daughters and I wonder sometimes how life will be for them in, say, 30 years. Are they still going to have the freedoms we take for granted. Or are they going to be treated as second-class citizens for being female and being Kafirs?
This isn’t exactly a “biased BBC” post, except in the sense that such ponderings would probably be seen as akin to “bigotry” and “hate speech” by the likes of the BBC (and, in fairness, by many other media organisations).
For INBBC, which doesn’t make the political connection-
“Fanatics in Syria vow to bring terror home to UK: Terrorists say they will attack public transport and financial centres.
“Extremists warn of atrocities on London’s transport and the White House.
“Said to be first direct threats of terror strikes in West to emerge from Syria.
“Hundreds of Britons are among foreign fighters in jihadist rebel groups.
“Al Qaeda is ‘setting up training camps in Syria to school foreign recruits.’
“British jihadist faction in Syria, Rayat Al-Tawheed, issues series of threats.”
By STEPHEN WRIGHT.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2552626/Fanatics-Syria-vow-bring-terror-UK-Terrorists-vow-attack-public-transport-financial-centres.html#ixzz2sYpYyEJm
– Another massive threat to lives of British and American people, via open-door, mass immigration from Islamic countries.
Also, from ‘Daily Mail’, not INBBC:-
“What drove a British estate agent and his maths tutor brother to die as jihadists? How seemingly decent young men are living terrifying doubles lives.
Akram and Mohamed Sebah described as cheerful, helpful and polite.
With bright futures they seemed to epitomise the British immigrant dream.
But they died fighting alongside Al Qaeda-backed jihadis in Syria.
Their parents were so ashamed they pretended they had died in crash.
Now ‘poster-boys’ in a drive to recruit more young Britons to fight in Syria.”
By DAVID JONES.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2552607/What-drove-British-estate-agent-maths-tutor-brother-die-jihadists-How-seemingly-decent-young-men-living-terrifying-doubles-lives.html#ixzz2sYs0ijv4
Note the duplicity behind the Islamic jihad.
How the bBC loves to blame the UK for everything and anything:
Afghan Taliban capture British military dog
ISAF officials in Afghanistan have confirmed a military dog went missing during a mission in December last year.
US military sources say the dog belonged to a coalition partner and the BBC understands it was working for British forces. The Taliban earlier released footage of what they claimed was a dog they captured from US troops. They said the dog, apparently called Colonel, was wearing a GPS tracking device, a torch and small camera…The Taliban said the dog was taken during a night raid in Laghman in eastern Afghanistan in late December. The insurgents also showed off captured weapons of a type frequently used by American special forces.
So the Islamic terrorist Org known as the Taliban hold a press conference and show off a dog they claim they took off the Americans, showing off Weapons and stuff which they claim they took off the Americans in an area where the Americans are based (eastern Laghman proivnce of Afghanistan.) and they also reported that:
“Zabiullah Mujahid, the Taliban group spokesman, said that the military dog was equipped with different types of electronic equipments, and it seemed that the dog was very important for the US forces as they launched an operation to recover the dog.
and the bBC report this story as:
Afghan Taliban capture British military dog
US military sources say the dog belonged to a coalition partner and the BBC understands it was working for British forces.
No doubt the bBC will now start a protest movement which removes all dogs from working with the armed forces.
P.S
Any bBC cock suckers on here , that vest the dog is wearing is a type used by the US and not the British.
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/gadgets-electronics/blogs/titanium-fangs-the-technology-behind-navy-seal-dogs
The bBC,and its mission statement of stabbing the people who fund it in the back.
And here is the bBC so called expert on his POV:
Dogs are considered unclean by Afghans, and their use by international forces in house searches has been controversial. Rumours and myths have risen among insurgents about the capacity of dogs, including the widely held belief among Taliban fighters that the dogs are trained to kill. In recent years, more dogs have been employed by Afghan forces to detect explosives.,/i>
The thing is looking at that dog, I’d say the original dog was killed shot, blown up and all the fucking Muslims have done is find a local dog (The old adage “Fit as a butchers dog” for army dogs contrasts somewhat with the santas little helper lookalike on show here) and put him on show.
But as for the bBC arseholes statement that Afghans find dogs unclean, no you female sex organ, Muslims say they find dogs unclean, in which to play the victim card in the UK. The fact of the matter is, we are currently seeing a rise in dog fighting in the Uk (the highest in 200 years) and the reason for that is…Muslims.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17383231
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-12323912
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8535426.stm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482904/Gang-faces-jail-dog-fight-left-pit-bulls-dead.html
As usual the bBC defend the biggest hypocrites going
Well said Pounce
The bBC,The death of an RMP Cpl and half the story.
Cpl Anne-Marie Ellement inquest: Rape claim soldier ‘bullied with insects’
The bBC reports on how a female RMP full screw hung herself and points to how she was bullied to her death. I read up on this story 2 years ago and here is something the bBC don’t mention:
She had ambitions to become a dog handler for the Royal Military Police and had been accepted for a selection day at the end of October. During the week before she died, Cpl Ellement had celebrated her 30th birthday with family and friends who said she seemed her usual self. On the afternoon of October 9 she had been exchanging text messages with her ex-boyfriend during the afternoon and she was angry and upset that he had started seeing someone else. Several colleagues saw Cpl Ellement outside the barracks shortly before she died and said that although she looked visibly upset there was no sign that she intended to take her own life.
http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/journalnewsindex/9595909.Army_corporal_hanged_herself__inquest_hears/
Can’t access the site from my iphone. Just get a smiley in the top left…
Can anyone help?
Here too, but it has been like that for some time.
Yup, weeks…
Set the browser to request the desktop site and it will work okay. I’ve had the same problem.
Well a heads up for a series not on the BBC but channel 4 (TV Tax funded all the same) and it’s written by arch leftie Danny Boyle.
It’s a drama about the Metropolitan Police, titled ‘Babylon’ (now who would call the Police the Babylon?).
And according to the interview they’ve managed to get a Boris lookie Likie, which no doubt they will make look a complete idiot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23808216
Yes the BBC were thrilled about this – discussion on pretentious ‘arts’ program Front Row.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03szxl0
Dawlish:
Ava70H has posted this on the GF site.
Presumably we need to add it to the list of things that the BBC have ‘overlooked’
It’ll be interesting to see if Miliband tries any finger pointing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5099454.stm
INBBC ♥ Muslim Brotherhood and ♥ Al Jazeera:-
“Al-Jazeera defends reporters detained in Egypt”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26061897
This is what INBBC and rest of UK political class want in their advocacy of Muslim Brotherhood (and Hamas):-
“UK government: Muslim Brotherhood membership not proof of ‘extremism,’ Brotherhood activists free to operate in UK”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/uk-muslim-brotherhood-membership-not-proof-of-extremism-brotherhood-activists-free-to-live-and-operate-in-britain
For INBBC to censor:-
“Exposed: The Muslim Brotherhood/Al-Qaeda Connection”
By Raymond Ibrahim.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/02/05/exposed-the-muslim-brotherhoodal-qaeda-connection/?singlepage=true
Part of political ‘left’ already in Muslim Brotherhood’s pocket?
” Is the Muslim Brotherhood Spinning Spinwatch?”
http://paulstott.typepad.com/i_intend_to_escape_and_co/2014/01/is-the-muslim-brotherhood-spinning-spinwatch.html
How many BBC reporters were sent to report the winter olympics?
A bit of Schadenfreude methinks
Well, they did get round to reporting it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26018884
but in reality:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/worst-devastation-in-living-memory-as-slovenia-is-paralysed-by-thick-iceand-snow-9109425.html
Considering it has been stated the worst in living memory, I wonder why the BBC hasn’t reported it as such? But then, it isn’t Global Warming is it?
The Warmists, which includes the BBC of course, have stopped including temperature readings in their analyses. So even we are heading for a new ice age or permanent storms, it’s all because of us, they will say.