31 Responses to BBC journalist: “We all love the NHS; no debate”

  1. chrisH says:
    July 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    Beeb hack…Labour MP…go together like a civil partnership and a turkey baster( to misquote Frank Sinatra).
    Hear a bit of the Week at Westminster-we got the classic old one -two.
    First up in the Peoples Court…Dianne Abbott m`Lud, no previous, wondrous character witness.
    Dianne says Falkirk is all wind and sails, Ed great, unions great…wanna make something of it whitey?
    No further questions Yer Honour.
    Next up-some political hackademic that gets wheeled out when the pshephology looks a bit iffy…John Curtiss ladies and gen`lemen!
    John from Strathclyde (but where else, Jimmy Reid suite?) says it`s all wind and sails…but do add a bit of gas and gaiters, because those nasty Tories are being opportunist, populist and rather unstatesmanlike….and Jim Sheridan has already told them that the Tories need to be put in the same dock as Eric Joyce and Len McClusky too…Grant Shapps does resemble them both after all eh?
    This is the authoritative voice of Political Sciences, BBC style…as modelled by Laurie Taylor, Danny Dorling, Danny Blanchflower and Noam Chomsky…he`s two doctors doncha know.
    Curtiss leaves to garlands, hearts and flowers…QED, case closed.
    THe BBC. the Labour Party and its useful stoolies in Hackademia…providing mutual farting in the same lift solutions since 1979.

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  2. tommy says:
    July 6, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    The only people who don’t love the NHS tend to be qet rich quick leeches who want to make a quick buck by breaking it up.

    Forgetting of course the fact that most Brits were born into and looked after a free at the point of contact NHS.

    There is no argument over its pivotal role in British society. How it evolves is a different discussion. Likewise there is no argument over Mrs T’s role. Except she is widely loathed whereas the NHS isn’t. Except by the scam artists.

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    • LifeinBritain says:
      July 6, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      Well I don’t love the NHS.
      In my experience its main function has been to hasten, with as little dignity as possible, the ends of those members of my family unlucky enough, old enough, or unwell enough to have had to depend on its services.
      Its care has been, uniformly, uncaring. My father died in front of a nursing sister who continued to loudly show her colleague her holiday photographs.
      Such is the NHS that we all appear to eventually experience.

      I firmly believe it needs complete reform. Starting again, if you like. I’m sure not everyone can be like that, but I’ve seen examples too numerous to believe they are ‘isolated incidents’.

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      • kilgore says:
        July 6, 2013 at 1:37 pm

        I couldnt agree more with your description of the NHS as it now stands . Last October my mother was diagnosed with liver cancer and was told that it was too progressed for any treatment ,only leaving palliative care . Appointments were cancelled at many times at short notice ,left sitting in extreme pain in a plastic chair for hours (11 hours at one time) ,hospital pharmacies shutting early (unable to get pain relief etc) A wholly uncaring attitude by i would say most of the staff . I could list many more . The only relief she got was when the Mcmillan nurses got involved more and finally got her a place in a Madam Curie hospice which i could not thank more for the caring,friendly and helpful staff who gave her all the help they could in the short time she had left . Sadly she passed away peacefully last Monday .
        I cannot begin to describe my anger at the treatment she received from the NHS .

        You read about these stories in the press but unless you are personally involved ,you really have no idea at just how bad the NHS is now .

        All certainly do not love the NHS and comparing that to love for Thatcher is beyond belief.

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        • DB says:
          July 6, 2013 at 5:33 pm

          My mother – in her 80s – had a ticklish cough which she couldn’t shake. Her doctor kept dismissing it as a summer allergy but it grew worse and became severe and debilitating over time. He prescribed antibiotics which made her extremely ill. He prescribed another batch – same result. So he prescribed a third antibiotic, again insisting she see the course though to the end. She couldn’t see this one to the end though – by halfway through her severely weakened body was violently rejecting even tiny sips of water. We had to call an ambulance to get her into hospital, where the first thing the staff insisted she do was take yet more antibiotics. We said no. They were insistent. We refused, convinced that would kill her. My mother was put under extreme pressure to back down, but we won the battle. The doctors agreed to wait for the results of tests, and it turned out she didn’t have an infection after all. The antibiotics she had been prescribed had indeed been killing her – with nothing to attack they had attacked her aged body instead. All she ever needed in the first place was a simple inhaler of little more than misted water to loosen her throat. If we had given in to the hospital’s initial demands she would be dead now. (She is well again, thriving, and has changed GPs.)

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          • DB says:
            July 6, 2013 at 6:20 pm

            Often wondered – if we’d given in and let a final batch of antibiotics kill her, what the chances are we’d ever have found out the real reason for her death. With the NHS’s history of institutional cover-up, I’d say probably nil. And how many deaths happen under similar circumstances but are never attributed to NHS negligence?

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    • pah says:
      July 6, 2013 at 12:59 pm

      It doesn’t seem to have done much for you though has it? Doesn’t some one need to make sure you keep taking the pills. If you don’t keep taking them you’ll just keep having these episodic delusions.

      Unless of course you are one of the many thousands whose pills have been misprescribed by the NHS. In which case I’d recommend re-visiting the Quack pronto.

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    • Stewart says:
      July 6, 2013 at 1:04 pm

      “The only people who don’t love the NHS tend to be qet rich quick leeches who want to make a quick buck by breaking it up.”

      Nope I’m an hourly paid manual worker, son of an hourly paid manual worker who’s be paying his stamp since they were stamps and I ,like most of my hourly paid manual working friends think that we ,those mugs on PAYE ,who pay for the national death service are being shafted (compared to other workers in industrialised country’s that our friends and family have escaped to)
      The sons and daughters of privilege ,Neysmith and Burnham , love the INHS because it alleviates their bourgeois guilt at no cost to them
      As for thatcher ,I’m no fan but I’ve never loathed her even when (surrounded by the contorted faces of patrician class brats now perusing their lucrative careers) I was demonstrating against some of her policy’s. But as the scenes at her funeral show (compared to the handful of workshy hippies and leftover middle class trots they embarrassed themselves at so called street parties) Many more millions loved than hated her. Get used to it

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    • London Calling says:
      July 6, 2013 at 5:07 pm

      “…Mrs T’s role. Except she is widely loathed” Really?
      Proof? Reference? How wide is widely?
      Funny how people who hold that opinion only know other people of the same opinion. Echo echo echo Tommy. And you come here to tell us its a fact. She is widely revered also Tommy. That’s a fact too.
      Now go away.

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  3. DB says:
    July 6, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    Who says the BBC can’t do comedy any more? Here’s Elletra’s reply to me:

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    • chrisH says:
      July 6, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      Anybody else have a problem with the likes of Elettra, of Marcus or Allegra getting called out on the class register at Bogstandard Comp?
      Methinks we`re looking at privileged prep school guilt trippers here…like Abbotts, Milibands and Harmans/Dromeys!
      The NHS…ah,bless…now how do we get tax relief on BUPA then?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      July 6, 2013 at 6:55 pm

      What context? Utter BS.

      Nice one, DB. Another one for the list.

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    • DB says:
      July 7, 2013 at 11:07 am

      Elettra has now deleted her reply.

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      • Guest Who says:
        July 7, 2013 at 11:35 am

        ‘Elettra has now deleted her reply.’
        Maybe even her views changed? For some reason.
        BBC staff seem to have this redaction lark sorted anyway.
        But that chappie promoted sideways to archive duty may have to get busy again.
        Quite how they think they’ll deal with the internet remains to be seen.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        July 7, 2013 at 4:18 pm

        Typical. She can delete it from her own feed, but she can’t delete it from the server. I guess the new Director of News will have to send his own memo to all staff reminding them not to do anything stupid. Helen Boaden’s memo about that has had no noticeable effect.

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  4. The Beebinator says:
    July 6, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    she should be sacked, lose her pension rights and made to apologise . ‘orrible leftist scumbag

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  5. Ian Hills says:
    July 6, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    Perhaps “we all loved” the county, municipal and voluntary sector hospitals, which our bureaucratic monolith has been trying to drag down since 1948, with considerable success.

    Next thing you know BBC hacks and Labour MPs will be protesting that they only go private to free up NHS bed space for the peasantry.

    There is, of course, one voluntary sector hospital which didn’t get sucked into the NHS – the Royal Masonic Hospital, Chelsea. It gives half its bed space to the NHS, for nothing.

    If only we’d been given state health insurance instead of Bevan’s Beast, many more hospitals might be as good as the Royal Masonic.

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  6. Doublethinker says:
    July 6, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    The NHS is practising euthanasia on a mass scale but does so by neglect, leaving patients to die undignified and painful deaths. The present scandals are sadly indicative of what much of the rest of the NHS is like. The NHS consumes huge amounts of money , certainly on a par with what other western countries pay for health, but we get a rotten service. The public sector in Britain is uniformly awful and poor value for money. The Labour party knows that just about every public sector employee will vote for it, hence they spend money on it like water and never try to improve it, other than by pumping yet more money into it. The BBC assists in covering up for the public sector and defecting blame as much as it can because it shares the same tough as the rest of the public sectors the poor old tax payer.

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:
    July 6, 2013 at 6:58 pm

    Neysmith’s disclaimer on her Twitter page:

    Views are mine and nothing to do with the aforementioned venerable corporation, although frankly they’d be mad not to agree with me!

    YCMIU

    Views are mine and nothing to do with the aforementioned venerable corporation, except when I’m speaking on behalf of my colleagues in chummy Labour mode. Until I get caught.

    There, fixed that for you, dear.

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  9. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    July 6, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    ‘No debate’ sums up the bBBC’s approach. They won’t let us distinguish between the fine ideal of a National Health Service, funded by all and free at the point of need, and the practice of the Nationalised Death Service, a bloated bureaucracy, run for the unions and their members, delivering poor-quality outcomes unworthy of one of the world’s richest and most advanced nations.

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    • George R says:
      July 6, 2013 at 9:53 pm

      Yes, the BBC-NUJ applies to the ‘no debate’ stricture to many other of its articles of faith, e.g. Islam, Socialism, Multiculturalism, European Union membership, Mass Immigration, Global Warming, etc.

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  10. Wild says:
    July 6, 2013 at 9:19 pm

    The NHS is OK just so long as you do not get ill or infirm. To paraphrase Neil Kinnock, if you are not a member of the nomenclature I warn you not to fall ill or get old. Kinnock pays for his healthcare with money extracted from taxpayers as his reward for making speeches about how much he cares about inequality.

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    • Derek says:
      July 6, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      An example of how Kinnock cares about equality (my emphasis):
      “In an interview in the broadcast, Commissioner Kinnock, said because there is fraud going on within the EU, the EU cannot castigate applicant members about EU finance related fraud!”

      Obviously I’m really pleased the BBC thought this was worth regularly repeating to make sure that every British taxpayer knows the value and probity of the EU….

      …mmm, any minute now…

      http://www.caef.org.uk/d64knnck.html

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  11. uncle bup says:
    July 6, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Elettra, you dozy bint, jus go f*** yerself.

    (There’s a time for reasoned debate, there’s a time for mockery, and then there’s *Elettra Time*)

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  12. pah says:
    July 7, 2013 at 11:56 am

    Why on Earth would anyone want to name their child ‘Electra’? It’s an ugly name with dodgy connotations.

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    • Ian Hills says:
      July 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      At least her parents didn’t call her “Peaches”, which is what champagne socialist Bob Geldof’ called his kid. As she reached adulthood it became sadly obvious that “Pimples” would have been more appropriate.

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  13. David Preiser (USA) says:
    July 7, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    I’m enjoying the usual silence from defenders of the indefensible. Quick, somebody make a typo or admit that they don’t care if Mandela dies so one of them can pipe up.

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    • Ian Hills says:
      July 7, 2013 at 5:01 pm

      If a white working class bloke was to wear tacky shirts like Mandela, the BBC would portray him as an violent thug. So why not terrorist godfather Mandela too, who sounds as though he was given elocution lessons by Marlon Brando?

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