Boston bombing update

(Updates added below)

Here’s how BBC Radio Five Live’s 1pm news bulletin dealt with the Boston bombing on Tuesday 16 April:

Jonathan Marcus: “The United States has a very large and well-developed group of radical extremists of their own. People I suppose you would categorise as being on the far-right, people who are opposed to federal authority, particularly enraged by things like gun control and immigration and so on.”

Suspect number 1 is now dead, and number 2 – still on the run at the time of writing – has been widely identified on social media as Sunil Tripathi, a Brown University student who has been missing for some weeks. Here’s Sunil:

sunil_boston

I’ve a got a sneaking feeling that speculation about the political motivation for the bombings might play a lesser role on the BBC from now on.

Also this from NBC:

Law enforcement sources said the suspects have international links and have been in the country legally for about a year.

UPDATE. Looks like I could have fallen into the speculation trap:

UPDATE 2. NBC reports:

Both of the suspects are brothers of Chechen origin and have been in the U.S. at least a year as legal permanent residents, authorities tell NBC News. The suspect on the run is believed to be Dzhokar Tsarnaev, 19, NBC News’ sources say.

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104 Responses to Boston bombing update

  1. Span Ows says:

    Lefty with Brown skin…oops, in other news cat cuaght up tree

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    • noggin says:

      international ties? some kind of military training … no
      IED strapped to his body?, no no idea?
      suicide bomb vest? similar to used jihad terror devices?, suicide bomber, wanting mass murder?
      no no idea?
      what could it mean? …
      who? WHY?

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      • Adi says:

        The Mohammed Coefficient is too high for the al-beeb to feel comfortable.

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          It’s only a matter of time before they have to report the inevitable sequel to this latest terrorist outrage. Others preceded it, others will follow as surely as night follows day. Many planned attacks have been thwarted in the UK , and one day their luck will hold good and the inbbc will have to find a new raft of excuses. However, the British public are slowly but surely going to wake up to the reality. You’d never believe how many deluded people on twitter tell me that it’s nt caused by true ( real) islam.

          I dont like to make doomladen forecasts, but sooner or later the shit will hit the fan.

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  2. john in cheshire says:

    My you are quick. I was just about to inform everyone of this development, which I read on the BusinessInsider.com website. Seems we can now begin to understand just who and more precisely which organisations have been planning this atrocity. It’s a shame the bbc can’t take the side of the just for a change and give their anti-Christian, anti-white, anti-American, anti-West rantings a rest.

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  3. Demon says:

    A socialist from an ethnic minority who tried to kill Americans, what is there not to like about him as far as the BBC is concerned. Assuming that he is actually guilty and that picture is actually of him, of course.

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  4. DB says:

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  5. Who knew there were so many brown people in Boston? says:

    Are you planning to breathlessly work your way through all of them?

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  6. DB says:

    To clarify – “a Brown University student” = a student from Brown University.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      ROFTL.

      Another sanctimonious leftie falling over himself to find racism where it doesn’t exist.

      Classic!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Now that is value.
      A defo candidate for this week’s David Lammy Award.
      Capital sir, capital (it’s a noun thing)!

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      • Chop says:

        Can someone post the “Wah-wah-wah-waaaaaaaaa” sound effect in respect to our new chum “Who knew there were so many brown people in Boston?”

        (Who I doubt will ever be seen again on these hallowed pages…at least not under that particular name)

        He gave me the biggest laaaaaarf of the week.

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  7. DJ says:

    I’m shocked – shocked – to find that Mr BBC has forgotten about the Occutard bridge bombers, the Discovery Channel nut, the Family Resaearch Council gunman and the Unabomber.

    Who could have seen that coming?

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    • DB says:

      Sunil Tripathi mentioned on the police scanner but NBC reports suggest that he’s not the bomber on the run.

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      • Rufus McDufus says:

        He sure looks like the guy in the pictures.

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        • Albaman says:

          I think you need to visit an optician.

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          • stewart says:

            Boston Marathon Bombings: Suspect On The Run
            Sky News – 5 minutes ago on bt yahoo
            top picture you must be wearing postmodernist goggles if you dont think they look alike
            http://globalgrind.com/news/411-sunil-tripathi-missing-brown-university-alleged-suspect-boston-marathon-bombings-photos
            But further news says that they are looking for Dzhokhar A Tsarnaev.
            so mabey Sunil Tripathi was one killed either way neither strike me as being possible members of ayrian brotherhood like BBC have been constantly hinting at
            Or were you listening through your de-constructionalist head phones?

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            • johnnythefish says:

              Poor Albaman – he’s trying to make a point but gets so confused these days he doesn’t know what it is.

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              • Albaman says:

                The guy in the photograph in Alan’s original post looks nothing like the guy in Stewart’s link and nothing like either of those in the images released by the FBI.

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                • Rufus McDufus says:

                  Well the guy in the link posted by stewart above has the same name as the guy in the photo at the top of this post and looks exactly the same.

                  The likeness to the FBI photos of the suspect is based on the grainy pictures from Boston so plenty of scope for error, although many people on the internet have clearly made the wrong connection. It is strange that this Sunil guy went missing a month ago and explosives were found near Brown University. Quite a coincidence at any rate and unfortunate for his family.

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                • Kyoto says:

                  But the central point you seem to be avoiding is that all current information indicates they are not classically white far-right domestic US etc. etc.

                  And then maybe you can get round to how Evan and Co. with even less information earlier in the week was discounting an external terror group, and steering everyone to domestic groups.

                  So if you’re going to post then deal with the central issue and not these little quips aimed purely at distraction.

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                  • stewart says:

                    Albaman, go back to link scan through pictures. you’ll see he does look like Alan’s picture (which I agree doesn’t look like ‘white hat’) I’m guessing first picture. in link is newer as he looks older and exactly like FBI picture of suspect ‘white hat’
                    I don’t know whats going on with you fella.I find your posts usually contain some logic (genuinely) ,but the last couple of days you’ve be reduced to adolescent hair splitting.
                    Said with love you understand,said with love.

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                  • Guest Who says:

                    ‘the central point you seem to be avoiding’
                    More like… desperately trying to steer away from as much as the BBC was trying to steer folk to before, which seems the only recourse for those not able to recognise that at such a point a retreat to the bunker again may not be noble but probably the wisest course.

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          • hippiepooter says:

            Sometimes lefties like Albaman do this site a huge service remedying the far right loonies who crop up here from time to time! :))

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            • hippiepooter says:

              I’ll make the point I was going to post here. …

              While I don’t doubt that Gramscian BBC will have indecent eagerness to pin this on the far right and downplay the Islamic angle, it could well be this reporter was following covert police disinformation to make the real suspects believe they weren’t onto them.

              Let’s remember the Islamic nutter in France. Much of the eagerness to blame the far right would have been there anyway, but if memory serves Police did throw out some red herrings for the above purpose.

              This BBC report came at a time when noone knew anything about who the suspects might be but now we know the Police were onto them.

              Still, there did seem a certain amount of relish and gratuitousness in the way the Beeb correspondent honed in on the ‘far right’ and tried to discredit mainstream causes in doing so.

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    • Anon says:

      https://www.facebook.com/rajitripathi
      Sunil Tripathi family member is a nuclear engineer?

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  8. DB says:

    NBC say dead guy had IED strapped to body.

    Hmm, foreign national wearing suicide bomb. Whatever can it all mean.

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    • DJ says:

      It means we won’t be seeing nearly as much on the BBC about this attack as we did about Sandy Hook.

         34 likes

  9. AngusPangus says:

    Possible suspect picked up in a Boston cab.

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  10. AngusPangus says:

    “Muslim Americans await bomber’s [sic] ID”

    Enjoy the hand-wringing:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22191030

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  11. Marsh says:

    Poor Nicky got way over excited this morning when a US radio host described the suspect still at large as white. Nicky asked her to confirm with obvious glee that the suspect was white, and she replied that she meant white baseball capped suspect. O. It was priceless.

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    • pah says:

      On Fox this morning a Police Chief described the suspects as ‘Caucasian’. Chechnya is in the Caucasus area of Russia …

      According to the BBC news just now they have ‘white hat’ in custody and ‘black hat’ is dead.. 🙁

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    • hippiepooter says:

      “With a white American versus an Arab or Muslim American, we know from previous incidences that a white terrorist will be framed as an individual aberration,” he says.”

      Sheez. If it’s a white American – nay, any American – it’s terrorism. If it’s a Muslim American, its ‘workplace violence’.

      So, so notable that whenever Islamic terrorism occurs, the only concern for Muslim leaders is not to condemn and urge cooperation with authorities to identify any suspects to avoid future atrocities, it is to try and make non-Muslim America feel bad for being suspicious of any Muslim, which can only facilitate Islamic terrorism and does.

      It’s propaganda Jihad and is part and parcel of terrorist Jihad. Aided and abetted every step of the way by the BBC and the rest of the corretcnick media and those that simple follow and fall in line for the sake of a quiet life.

      The War against Jihad Terrorism would have been over by now if we weren’t led by moral imbeciles.

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  12. Deborah says:

    I know on this site things can be misconstrued and really the discussion is not whether the Boston bomber(s?) were followers of Islam – it is the fact that the BBC go out of their way to avoid considering it. If the BBC were balanced and considered anarchists (known as far right groups by the BBC because they want you to link with Conservativs), far left groups and Islamists in equal measure until the perpetrators are known we on this site would have less to complain about.

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    • Rufus McDufus says:

      It doesn’t really matter who they are now. The damage is done. Most BBC viewers with the attention span of a gnat have filed the incident under ‘loony right wing extremist’.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Which is how the BBC works – the steady drip, drip of their poisonous slant on events. Sure as eggs is eggs and Abu Qatada is on benefits, they will somehow inveigle their right-wing terrorist theme into this story in the coming weeks, if only through the usual spurious leftie device of moral equivalence.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        It’s what the BBC call ‘gnatural justice’!

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  13. AngusPangus says:

    Suspects reportedly Russian, from near Chechnya; in USA <1 year

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  14. AngusPangus says:

    correction: in USA at least 1 year

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  15. AngusPangus says:

    correction: are Chechen; may have trained in Afghanistan

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  16. DB says:

    PJ Crowley, ex-Obama admin & regular commentator for the BBC, on R5L’s Drive on Tuesday:

    “Those that are attacking government or attacking important symbols of society that they believe has gone wrong, they’ll let the attack speak for itself. They don’t necessarily want to die for this cause, so I think the silence is interesting and the longer that you do not have a claim of responsibility my instinct is that perhaps tilts analysis towards a domestic rather than international attack.”

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Tilted analysis’? Spiffy.
      Don Quixote for Head of News next?
      ‘spurred on by the conviction that the world needed the BBC’s immediate presence’

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  17. AngusPangus says:

    No word yet as to whether they were tax-hating, small government, pro-life, anti Government, Tea Party, Republican, far-right, white supremacist, Patriot Day rednecks from fly-over country though.

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  18. George R says:

    Lessons about the Islamic jihad bombings in Boston:

    1.) the threat is NOT racial/ethnic;

    2.) the threat is not nationality;

    BUT-
    3.) the ‘real and present danger’ IS the global Islamic jihad threat which derives from tenets of Islam, and such massacres will continue as long as Islamic supremacist ideology continues, and is politically supported globally.

    4.) The West needs to recognise the nature of this Islamic enemy, and to stop immigration of Islamic supremacists, to be firm in deporting enemy suspects, and to stop the imposition of aspects of Islamic Sharia law in the West.

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    • AngusPangus says:

      Now, now George. Mustn’t jump to conclusions. For instance, the Chechens might have radicalised themselves in the USA by watching hard-core Sarah Palin videos for the last year.

      🙂 🙂

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      • David Lamb says:

        If Palin allegedly looks at Russia from Alaska, then these suspects might have looked at Palin from Russia. Gawd, I know she is guilty of something here.

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  19. George R says:

    Of course, Pamela Geller’s ‘Atlas Shrugs’ site is worth monitoring, as a counter to INBBC:

    “BOSTON BOMBERS MUSLIM BROTHERS FROM RUSSIA, NEAR CHECHNYA — ONE LIVED IN TURKEY”

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/04/boston-bombers-muslim-brothers-from-russia-near-chechnya-one-lived-in-turkey.html

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  20. RCE says:

    Think it was Humphries who asked some other droid (at about half six on Today) about the race of the suspects identified on CCTV.

    Droid answered lengthily… but unfortunately for anyone interested in the truth the answer was to a completely different question than the one asked. And that was the very moment at which I knew the perpetrators weren’t white.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Yes, it’s rather odd, and perhapsI have missed it, but I haven’t seen a breathless Charlie Stayt asking an eye witness: ” but tell me, what did he look like?” As he did for the Anders Brevik murders.

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Charlie Stayt and. Louise walking on eggshells this morning on breakfast.
        Now he’s been caught, and to whom do they go in a search for local reaction? Why a friendly Guardian journalist of course. Next item, a Mail reporter…..oh..err….no of course not.
        Now it’s review of papers, who to do it? Why a poet of course who starts where? Yes, the guardian.
        Anyone mentioned the ROP this morning? Nahhh….not relevant.

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  21. DB says:

    Latest reports say dead guy was run over by his brother in rush to escape.

    Photo gallery “Will Box For Passport” about dead brotherTamerlan Tsarnaev. Captions indicate devout Muslim, no American friends, girlfriend converted to Islam.

    Also YouTube account with same name, can’t verify if same guy.

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  22. George R says:

    INBBC seems to be still pushing its usual disinformation:

    ‘Boston men’, and ‘suspects’ political line.

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  23. George R says:

    Boston.

    INBBC-Guardian-‘left,’ seem treating this as some kind of Hollywood film crime drama.

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  24. AsISeeIt says:

    Just can’t wait for Mark Mardell to pop up and tell us all about these ‘home grown’ Boston bombing ‘extreme right-wing’ good ol’ boys.

    Perhaps he can then elighten us as to his brilliant sources for that ‘security chatter’ which tipped him and the BBC off and put us all on red alert for the NRA survivalist anti-Federalists.

    What?
    It’s starting to look like a bum steer?
    Our BBC and their top Washington correspondent have sold us a pup?

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  25. AngusPangus says:

    We now get this on the BBC Live Text:

    “Chechnya itself is a region of Russia with a long history of conflict and dispute with Moscow. It was the scene of a brutal separatist war with Russia in the 1990s and has been hit by insurgency in the years since”

    No mention that it was an ISLAMIC separatist war, something that might, you know, be relevant? No mention that they are MUSLIM insurgents. No mention that Chechen jihadists have fought in many Islamic hotspots all over the world. The BBC once again actively covering up for the Religion of Peace.

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    • Joshaw says:

      Yes. Just now, BBC TV news has suggested that it’s all Russia’s fault for brutalising them.

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  26. George R says:

    “Those Chechens So Grateful To America”

    By Hugh Fitzgerald.

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/48592

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    • Mark says:

      The great irony is the targeting of MIT, as its linguistics department is headed by that most anti-American of American professors !

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  27. AngusPangus says:

    Latest Live Text Islamic apologism:

    “Daniel Sandford BBC News, Moscow tweets that it looks likely the two suspects left the Russian Federation a long time ago – possibly as long ago as 2001. He also plays down the links to Chechnya: “Ahem! If you are a Chechen from Kyrgyzstan, lived briefly in Dagestan, then lived in America for 10 yrs+. The connection to Chechnya is slim”.”

    The BBC’s page on Chechnya here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18188085

    which was linked to in the previous Live Text I mentioned reads quite different to the Wikipedia entry for Chechnya.

    For instance, in the BBC profile, there is no mention of the fact that ethnic Chechens are Sunni Muslims. Indeed, the “Facts” tab merely list the major religions as “Islam, Christianity”. One might infer from that that it’s a fairly even split, then.

    Oh, no. Reading Wikipedia, we discover that, in fact, Chechens (who are Sunni Muslims) make up >95% of the population. Russians, who are mostly Russian Orthodox, make up only 1.9% of the population. There is only one single church in Grozny.

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    • It's all too much says:

      However if you are an Ethiopian who tried to immigrate to Canada, apparently attended military training in Afghanistan (to fight for the Chechens) and were arrested in Pakistan trying to travel under a false British passport your nationality is?

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  28. AngusPangus says:

    Update: Boston police radio just said white cap guy is posting online that he’s “going to kill everybody because you killed my brother”

    So I guess he’s not in custody at this time.

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  29. AngusPangus says:

    There’s now a deluge of crap on the BBC Live Text feed desperately trying to put as much distance between the perps and Chechnya as possible.

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  30. Leha says:

    “The United States has a very large and well-developed group of radical extremists of their own” by that the clown means the NRA.

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  31. AngusPangus says:

    How odd, the BBC don’t yet seem to have reported that the elder (dead) brother appears to be share his name with Timur (Tamerlane), the “Sword of Islam” who “Scholars estimate .. his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.”

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    • stewart says:

      Any money that the BBC’s next obfuscation will be they are terrorists who just happen to be Muslims,and that their crimes had nothing to do with the ‘religion of peace’.They have plenty of form for that kind of hypocrisy.

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      • AngusPangus says:

        Bingo!

        BBC Moscow is reporting that the boys’ mother, who lived with them in Boston (well, Cambridge) was arrested for shoplifting last year. [So, clearly, it must have been the evil, fascist Boston police harassing a poor immigrant woman who pushed these otherwise exemplary boys over the edge.]

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        • Reed says:

          Poverty! That’s it. Poverty.

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        • Prince Albert says:

          If you can read that into it, then its no wonder you see bias everywhere. Or, it’s in your own head.

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          • stewart says:

            you need to pull that cork out fella

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          • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

            How many sniping comments do you have to post before your inbbc handler, sorry supervisor, approves your continuing employment by the beeb? You lot really are a bunch of traitors that make blunt look like an amateur.

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  32. pah says:

    Never forget, as the BBC has, the Beslan Massacre was perpetrated by Chechens.

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  33. AngusPangus says:

    I think I must have missed the bit in the BBC’s dozens of live text updates which states that the two “suspected” marathon bombers are Muslims, which might be indicative of a jihadist attack.

    Instead, lots of stuff about what nice boys they were.

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    • AngusPangus says:

      I think someone’s reading this 😉 because Hey, Presto! Adam Blenford grudgingly Live Texts at 14.55 that Bomber the Younger’s Russian social networking site “SUGGESTS” he’s a “Muslim believer”, though it hasn’t been updated for a year.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        A Muslim Believer? Is that like a Daydream Believer? But less fluffy?

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      • Reed says:

        “he’s a “Muslim believer”, though it hasn’t been updated for a year.”

        …because he just might have left the religion of peace in the intervening year. Lot’s of muslims do, without reproach.

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      • Prince Albert says:

        You show signs of not only paranoia, but an overinflated sense of your own importance.

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        • Guest Who says:

          By chance have you been doing the same distance psych course that enabled the Ecuadorian Ambassador to get quoted by the BBC on matters medical regarding Julian Assange?

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    • stewart says:

      Footballers or architects?

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  34. london calling says:

    It is BBC form to describe people by where they have been living (men “from Birmingham”, not Somalians). These two are therefore not Chechens, they are local lads – “from Massachusetts”.
    The stench of hypocrisy hangs high in the air over Salford. Usual double standards to conceal from the people they purportedly serve the nature of the enemy within.

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  35. Reed says:

    Che didn’t much like black people.
    That makes him a racist.
    Racists are all right-wing, absolutely.
    The young man in that T-shirt is therefore a right-wing radical.

    “Boston – right-wing extremist terrorism in the USA”

    Seems legit – go with that headline, BBC.

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  36. George R says:

    “A bloody history: Overview of terrorist events of modern Russia”

    http://rt.com/news/terror-attacks-chechen-rebels-115/

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  37. chrisH says:

    The BBC seem to be on one perpetual gap year.
    Yesterday found the BBC cycling around Utrecht bigging up “shooting galleries” for Brighton…all so civilised, you see as long as Geert Wilders isn`t mentioned in polite circles.
    Today found the BBC in Sydney rather hoping that vaccination becomes compulsory, and that kids won`t be allowed into school unless they are “done”.
    They have Julia Gillard you see-she`s still weeping over Aborigines who were taken into care way back, so she`s on the BBCs Love Parade websites.
    I`m guessing that Holland and Australia don`t have all those hideous ciggies, booze and fast food chains that are killing off our poor…it`s not fair…it just isn`t!
    Suppose no-one is going to ask Sarah and John how the hell they`re going to empathise with fat, smoke dried alkies ,given the fat slaries THEY are on.
    Oh the poor…pity the poor.
    John will surely be due his “reports from the Greek mainland” sometime soon….bush fires, collapse of the Euro, 126th anniversary of the Thessalonica tomato emporium?…any excuse will do!

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  38. George R says:

    Information for INBBC to censor:-

    BOSTON JIHAD BOMBER DESCRIBES WORLDVIEW AS ‘ISLAM’:
    ‘DO GOOD, BECAUSE ALLAH LOVES THOSE WHO DO GOOD’.”

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/04/boston-jihad-bombers-describes-worldivew-as-islam-do-good-because-allah-loves-those-who-do-good.html

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  39. stuart says:

    we all knew from day one it was muslims behind the boston bombing,shame on you bbc and the rest of the media for your failed cover up of the truth,shame on you.

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  40. OldBloke says:

    Has anyone blamed Thatcher yet?

       6 likes

    • Rich Tee says:

      I blame Thatcher.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      It was surely Thatcher’s draconian treatment of Abus Hamza and Qatada in the 80’s which spawned an Islamic terrorist backlash.

         4 likes

  41. London Calling says:

    Obama’s Mea Culpa trip around the Planet to apologise to Muslims for America’s behaviour under Bush doesn’t seemed to have had the results the Liberal breast-beaters hoped for. Seems they hate America just as much as they did before, because that was never the reason.

    Perhaps Americas Liberal academics would like to apologise to their own people, who are now paying the price for their laughable self-deception.

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