TUESDAY OPEN THREAD

Time for another one of these…a bit late but here we go ….

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  1. Aerfen says:

    Off topic I know, but may I remind people here who signed the Stop Romagarians petition, that this is also important:

    Sign to DEFER CROATIAN IMMIGRATION INTO THE UK ON 01 JULY 2013 FOR 5 YEARS.

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47078

    Croatia has nearly four and a half million people, and is also a very poor country.

    So far there are NO PLANS to use transitonal arrangements to prevent them coming here.

    This is urgent.

       38 likes

    • Dave666 says:

      Signed.

         5 likes

    • Aerfen says:

      Also bear in mind that Serbs are discriminated against in Croatia, even being victims of violent attacks.

      In this respect they have MORE motivation to emigrate to Britain even than Romagarians.

         9 likes

    • Aerfen says:

      Keep on signing folks – and spread the link around, forums, twitter, facebook, newspaper comments..

         1 likes

  2. uncle bup says:

    The unpopular leftie panel show is back in this sadly, its 35th year on air.

    Joining host Sandi Sneer will be the usual Tired Old Trots – Jeremy Hardly, Fred MacUnfunny, Francis Whoo?, Susan Shouty-Achingly-Right-on-Lesbian – as well as guests including Owen Jones, Penny Awful, Billy Boastful, Paul ‘Che’ Mason and Helen ‘Sideways’ Boaden

    Due to the unpopularity of this show we are operating a random draw for tickets but be advised you will ‘win’.

    You can apply for a maximum of one hundred tickets per recording and every recording per household.

    Dates:
    Thursday 18 and 25 April
    Thursday 2 and 9 May

    Venue: BBC Radio Theatre, London
    Doors open: 7.15pm

    To enter the random draw, visit bbc.co.uk/tickets.

    Good luck with your application, and in the unlikely event you don’t ‘win’ a ticket go out there and get yourself a life,maybe try reading the Daily Mail now and again. Caution a very loud laughter track will be provided.

    Kind regards

       48 likes

    • chrisH says:

      But will this laughter track be as loud as that behind Grimshaw and Citizen Khan bloke on “Comic Relief”.
      Think CKG was trying to tell his daughter about blokes and their sexual urges….but really couldn`t hear, because the “audience” were in absolute hysterics…
      Good old BBC…turn up the laughter track for the effnix, lob a bit of a calypso or bhangra soundtrack onto it…and laugh all the way to the bank.
      You`ll certainly not be laughing as you watch the “comedY” though…

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  3. George R says:

    IRAQ:

    Muslims kill about 65 other Muslims today in recognition of U.S. intervention 10 years ago.

    So who or what is to blame for today’s massacre?

    INBBC does not seem so sure, but it seems as though, to INBBC, it must be the West, not Islam.

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  4. johnnythefish says:

    Between the last post on the last Open Thread and the first post on this one there is almost a two day gap. That’s a lot of BBC bias that’s going unrecorded. I suspect the reason people are holding back with new posts is because they suspect a new thread is imminent and their post will get lost at the end of an out of date thread.

    Can I suggest we treat Open Threads, in our minds at least, as one continuum and carry on posting with consistent enthusiasm regardless of how long one might have been running for? Less bias will get missed as a result.

    Just a thought.

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  5. chrisH says:

    See that the BBC are running up a flag for Lenin and his “trip” to Letchworth…they`ve made a programme about the mythic Great Day when the butcher of countless Russians “visited” a new town, which alliterated with his name.
    Oh so radical Quentin!
    Now then…how about that funny whimsical balanced programme about the day when dear Uncle Adolf(who didn`t kill as many Russians as Vladimir, but it would have been close!) came to …Hitchin?…Hemel Hempstead?…Harrow?
    Come on BBC…let`s see that valued impartiality and arch wry humour about visiting mass murderers traipsing round a Garden City or two.
    Oh the gay laughter to be gleaned…

       24 likes

    • Colditz says:

      You really are a numpty today. You’ve confused Lenin and Stalin, but I suspect you wouldn’t understand anything about the USSR beyond what was in Red Dawn.

      Check your rants!

         11 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Please don’t feed the trolls.

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        • noggin says:

          coldtitz, i thought it has all gone quiet?
          what happened?

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          • chrisH says:

            Whack-a mole day!
            Have checked my rants colditz…now let somebody check your meds, you seem a little agitated tonight!

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        • #88 says:

          While were rediscovering our political history, I wonder if there’s any chance that the BBC might commission a drama documentary on Jack Jones the T&G leader who according to Soviet defector Oleg Gordievsky was one of a number of Leading public figures from the hard left, close to the Labour government, who were in the pay of and spying for the Soviet Union. The BBC’s affinity with and closeness to traitors like that might provide quite a detailed insight (from the inside track so to speak).

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          • johnnythefish says:

            Trade unions? Communists? Traitors?1970s? On the BBC?

            Dream on….

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            • London Calling says:

              Were any of these Trade Unions, Communists and traitors, by any chance, possessed of an unhealthy interest in young teenage girls? were any of them by any chance disk-jockeys?”

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Lenin got an ice pick that made his ears burn, apparently.

        Do I get a gold star, colditz?

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Hey, colditz, you don’t even know what your own BBC is up to around the world. How do you expect anyone to respect your comments about what we don’t understand?

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      • thoughtful says:

        It Makes you wonder when people come on here and make contrary statements and call names, you’d think they’d make sure they were crystal clear and their facts were beyond criticism.

        So Lenin & Stalin confused but what about ? according to the blurb it was Lenin who visited Letchworth, so no confusion there.

        Then there’s the murder of ‘countless Russians’. I suppose the 200,000 members of the clergy he had tortured to death don’t count? Or the antics of the Checka.

        Stalins murders were of course mainly the Ukrainians, and while they’re still Russian you might have been a little more specific if you meant them

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        • johnnythefish says:

          And don’t forget Stalin’s eagerness to carve up Europe with his partner in war, Hitler, at the start of WW2 with the resulting death and destruction, especially in Poland.

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      • chrisH says:

        Leveson seems to have emboldened the likes of you…a very creepy development
        1. I don`t need a “numpty ” like you to tell me about Stalin v Lenin by the way…if you think Lenin had no blood on his hands,look up Kronstadt and assorted murders of White Russians, Kerenskys and the like…(oh don`t bother, it`d only confuse you!)
        2. WTF is Red Dawn?
        What`d be the point in checking my rants when some Leveson-lite quisling like yourself will call it a rant or hate-filled etc.
        Lenin..indeed Uncle Joe himself-would be proud of you…now do go away and tell Points of View how much you want more from the BBC.
        I just don`t see what you get out of coming to sites like this…maybe I should take you to Levesons Regulatory Board…that Nazi moniker of yours may yet get you into trouble you know!
        Usesless!

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        • chrisH says:

          Wow-a hundred yellow ribbons round the old oak tree.
          Colditz-you seem to have been weighed in the balance, and found wanting.
          That`s a Bible reference…get nurse to find it for you(it`s in the Old Testament, so your large print Gideons won`t have it).
          Reckon that Colditz is an outrider for the post-Leveson brigade, so he`s a bit of a worry…anybody able to point him towards Junior Points of View?
          He`d like that more than this hate-filled site…which, funnily enough he seems to like filling with his own hates.

             17 likes

          • Doyle says:

            I think Colditz is referring to the 1984 movie Red Dawn starring Patrick Swayze. Directed by John Milius, it’s about the invasion of the USA by the USSR.

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  6. pounce says:

    The bBC, how it promotes the so called Human shields in 2003 as champions of human nature and what they fail to mention.

    What happened to Iraq’s ‘human shields’?
    In March 2003, a group of international activists staged one of the most high-profile protests against the invasion of Iraq. With the world’s media watching, they drove in a ramshackle convoy of buses to a power station near Baghdad.

    Wow the bBC bigs it up for these so called champions of human self sacrifice. But the real story is somewhat different .

    When the so called ‘human shields’ they wanted to deploy to sites which were nowhere near military installations, the Iraqis didn’t like this and thus informed them that if they didn’t like it they could leave. Meanwhile they kicked out 5 so called human shields the bBC’s fav ex American (Irish /Palestinian passport holder but living in the UK off our benefits Ken ( i was a f-ing REMF) O’Keefe being one of them. I did like this snippet from the bBC (who obviously are so stuck in their righteousness fail to see the irony )
    “After spending a week at the electricity plant, Mr Letts also left. He felt he needed to protect his buses – they were, after all, his livelihood.”My buses are all we had in the world and they were there in the middle of a war zone,” he says. “
    So a ethical latte drinker who while willing to give his life in which to protect Saddam’s regime, wasn’t willing to let his double buses get damaged. So decided to move them out of harms way by returning to the Uk. but he explained this by being allowed to say:
    “I had to come back,” he says, “but I got the people there and that was my crowning achievement. I didn’t leave until we had made sure everything was working.”

    So he arrived Feb 20th, the Americans invaded 19th March and he was out of the country a day later. Something tells me the arsehole shit himself stupid when the shooting war started.

    The bBC, the propaganda arm of radical Islam, paid for by you the British tax payer

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    • uncle bup says:

      Seem to remember the ‘Peace Convoy’ (ironically) having a dust-up among themselves en route causing some early baths. Take a heart of stone etc.

      When they they got there the halfwits fondly imagined they’d be deployed to some bleeding-heart, not-too-far-from-the-hotel, media-friendly, photogenic sites like kiddies hospitals, infant schools, orphanages. (Breaking news – not prime military targets)

      Got mightily ticked off by being sent to the middle of nowhere to ‘shield’ chemical plants, power stations, radio masts, bridges etc.

      Went off back to Britain in a mighty huff.

      Like all of their type (lefties) – complete and utter arses.

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      • noggin says:

        ahh! remember old (jihad) george allahway,
        and his propaganda … i mean “peace” convoy
        penned in at the petrol station :-D by egyptian police
        ….. hmm memories! :-D

        of course riots ensued, over 60 people injured
        at least that had plenty of plasters onboard eh!

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I wonder if this is a sign that at last somebody at the BBC has a conscience and is starting to wonder at the distinct absence of the sainted human shields in places like Libya, Mali, Yemen, and Pakistan.

      Also, I notice that the clever BBC editor who put this together carefully avoided mentioning or linking to painted clown Ken O’Keefe’s other activism which caught the BBC’s attention. It’s fascinating that they can report how militant he was then, but the BBC never called him out on it when giving him plenty of air time to air his hatred of Israel when he was one of those trying to kill Israeli soldiers on the Maravi. To be fair, his version of the flotilla events was challenged by the BBC, a bit, but nobody called him on his militant past at the time. Yet another important bit of context the BBC felt you didn’t need to know.

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      • Buggy says:

        Three weeks seems like a bloody long time to drive to Baghdad doesn’t it ? That’s because the heroically prattish O’Keefe in his bumptious wisdom had destroyed his real passport and replaced it with a home-made “World Citizen” job, gloriously resulting in the ‘crustie crew’ being hoicked off the bus (and delayed for hours) at most of the border posts along the way. Clearly the guards weren’t composed of ex-BBC staffers and thus didn’t take merry Ken and his bus of fools at their own estimation: For shame !

        If I ever need cheering up, the memory of The Golden Voyage Of O’Keefe And His Passport Of Doom does the trick every time !

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  7. Lynette says:

    Did anyone hear the INCREDIBLE story on the World Service about poor Palestinian women having to smuggle out their prisoner husband’s semen from Israeli prisons in order to have babies ?. Apparently there have beeen 10 babies born this way !. The men are deniied conjical rights. But one of prisoners is ONLY in jail for 37 years for “according to the Israeli’s” being involved in a bombing. (No mention of how many people were murdered in that so called “bombing”)

    This is the kind of absurd fiction the BBC is churning out as it has to regularly have a story against Israel. .

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    • pounce says:

      I posted the facts on that story a while back. The geezer who was banged up did so for organising a double suicide bombing inside a market, killing 13 injuring over 188. Hamas claimed responsibility and stated it was in revenge for killing Mahmud Abu Hanoud. I did like the part that now her life is complete all she wants is her husband by her side.

      Here’s what the bBC failed to inform the reader: Sperm can only live an hour outside the body..

      The PA pays the families of prisoners who are locked up by Israel. The lady in question gets in the region of $1500 a month, which in the West Bank is bloody good.

      I think you will find that she has a fancy fellow (Well her husband was locked up 10 years ago) and she got herself pregnant rather than reveal that the wife of a so called Islamic hero has been playing the field. (Just think how many men would want to carry out the good fight if they knew their wives would find somebody else , while they bent over for the soap in the prison showers)
      You’d think Jihad Donnison would have reported the above. But know he only parrots what his Mullah unzips 5 times a day, which is why he talks shite.

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    • Ian Hills says:

      Didn’t hear much about this….

      “A report by Palestinian Media Watch recently revealed that British taxpayers have been paying salaries to terrorists. It revealed that £3 million every month is paid by the Palestinian Authority (PA) in salaries to Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. The salaries come from the PA’s general budget. That “general budget” is kindly provided by the U.K., among other EU countries.”

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203897404578076840345518294.html

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  8. chrisH says:

    Absolutely useless Humphrys on Today displaying his ignorance for all to see.
    I thought that he had a small kid of his own, so he surely might know something about childcare costs( I jest, but so what!).
    His “interview” with Elizabeth Truss was a disgrace…phoning in Dave Sparts prejudices, autopilot, not even listening to the answers..the man knows nothing,cares even less that he`s a puff adder with dentures…old scrote!
    Dignitas…there`s a bloke at the BBC who`s lost the will to go on I think….he certainly drives thousands like me to Chris Evans every day!
    Krap, Krap, Krapola…KKK!

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    • Colditz says:

      Usesless
      ignorance
      disgrace
      Dave Spart
      knows nothing
      cares less
      puff adder with detures (how droll)
      Dignitas…should commit suicide?

      So what’s missing from this rant?

      One fact.

      Like 99% of the hate tirades posted herein, utterly devoid of any facts but full of abuse!

      Keep it up.Gives lots of us a good laugh. (Now wait for the “clever” responses trying to turn the latter sentence around with the finesse of pole vaulting elephants).

         11 likes

      • Fred Sage says:

        I’m sorry Coldtits I can’t see any facts in your post.

           23 likes

        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          Please don’t feed the trolls.

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        • Kyoto says:

          Colditz posts here regularly because he is sad and lonely. He told me so. So twice in about 30 minutes means he must be very sad and lonely this evening.

          Also I understand that at one point Colditz castle was a lunatic asylum. Which if true I believe constitutes a fact.

          Best

          Kyoto

             20 likes

          • thoughtful says:

            No no Kyoto you can’t say lunatic asylum, you have to use Ed Balls politically correct description – The lunatic farm!

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Meanwhile colditz can supply us with evidence of the constant challenge and interruptions faced by Andy ‘North Staffs Happened On His Watch’ Burnham in his interview the other day.

        Away you go….

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      • chrisH says:

        Usesless?…USESLESS???
        Hate filled tirade?….you need to get out more.
        Did you hear it?
        Humphrys was told at the start of every “question” by Truss that what he was saying was just not true…as if that actually stopped him from carrying on.
        You`re one sad little man, and you have my pity!
        Early night matron for this poor chap!

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        • thoughtful says:

          Don’t you realise every one who dissagrees with those on the left are described by them as ‘hate filled’ they don’t realise – or care that ‘diversity’ stretches to diversity of beliefs and that even when we don’t agree with other peoples politics we accept that they have a right to hold those beliefs.

          Unfortunately the left believe that they have a monopoly on what is right or wrong – all of the isms and phobias have little real meaning to them, only a means to an end, allowing them to attack others for not completely agreeing with them.

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          • Ian Hills says:

            Diversity seems to apply only to the existence of various victim groups. Only one opinion is allowed, everything else being thoughtcrime.

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  9. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Gavin Hewitt’s latest letter from Cyprus expresses the concerns that the EU and ECB just didn’t do the bailout correctly, and that’s why everyone is freaking out and the banks will be closed for another couple of days. St. Paul of Princeton gets a nod as well, in case anyone forgot where you’re supposed to get your thoughts from.

    Absent from his and all BBC “analysis” is the concern about just how much this proves that national sovereignty is practically non-existent in parts of Europe, and how this came to be so. This was the inevitable result of the EU and euro experiment anyway, but is exactly the result the instigators and the BBC wanted: an unelected, undemocratic, authoritarian and autocratic body making decisions for the masses. Whether one thinks it’s good or bad, it’s an important facet of this whole scene, and the BBC should be discussing it in a major way. But then, that would give the oxygen of publicity to the hated euro-skeptics. Actually, I suspect that most Beeboids involved in covering this story don’t even think it’s an issue.

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    • Dave s says:

      There is no evidence that Hewitt understands just how this looks to us peasants. What he calls a tax is in reality theft of depositors money.
      There is no distinction made between bank shareholders and bank customers. They are not the same by any means.
      So wedded is the elite in Europe to the single currency and the EU project that they just cannot see how bad this looks. So they confuse it with tales of big bad Russians. We all know the BBC’s stance. It will continue to confuse us and propagandise for a doomed project .
      The elites really do think we are stupid and we are for putting up with such arrogant career politicians out to reward themselves with our money and persuading us to feel grateful for letting them do it.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        To his credit, Hewitt did notice in his previous report that this might be seen as a sign that other countries might start eyeing their citizens’ wallets like this, but left it at that. But he either doesn’t grasp, or doesn’t mind the undemocratic nature of this whole thing, and where it will lead to.

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  10. Bob Nelson says:

    I don’t know how last night’s edition of Motorway Cops got past the BBC invigilators and made it on screen.

    This week the boys in blue were primarily intent on catching motorway metal thieves. They pulled over a suspect vehicle and found it contained six sinister-looking Romanians. A little later they stopped another vehicle which contained five more Romanians. None of the arrestees admitted to speaking any English.

    A major headache for our police and an expensive problem for all of us – and it will only get worse.

       62 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      But according to recent BBC reports and interviews in that country, none of them want to come here! Or are they just the educated, English-speaking ones?

         24 likes

    • noggin says:

      come come, you heard our f-ckwit Tory government rep
      on bbc 5live
      it will only be highly skilled Romanian IT workers,
      that want to come.

         34 likes

      • John wood says:

        stealing metal requires intelligence, locating suitable material, safely removing it without being electrocuted, locating a dealer to sell it – all signs of great skill.

           23 likes

    • Joshaw says:

      I seem to recall Goldfinger having an effective way of dealing with metal thieves.

         7 likes

  11. Smell the glove says:

    Coldtits Could you please stop destroying the English language! What kind of school did you attend?

       13 likes

  12. Guest Who says:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100207933/is-laurie-penny-right-is-right-wing-political-correctness-censoring-jokes-about-margaret-thatcher-and-the-queen/

    Sounds like Newsnight needs to get on a special to resolve this question pronto.
    They may even get to tempt some staff back to the country too.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/robertcolvile/100207913/will-hacked-off-rest-on-their-laurels-dont-bet-on-it/

    ‘It operated the Leader of the Opposition like a hand puppet while it did so’
    Hardly a surprise, given DavidP’s insight in to who leads HackedOff and the practice he had with a former employer doing just that.
    Some good comments already, and the BBC’s role in the new world order not being cut much slack.

       23 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      This is only the beginning for Hacked Off. Now that they have power, they’ll continue to work until the enemies of the BBC and Guardian are taken down. I didn’t see any mention of the role of any ex-Beeboids in this, though.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Minority pressure groups (yes, more of them) are lining up to make complaints about unfavourable reporting of Islam and ‘yoof’ and who knows what else – global warming?

        It won’t be too long before ‘regulation’ becomes ‘censorship’. Anyone who thinks Hacked Off were fighting for the victims of the press are in for a rude awakening.

        A black day for freedom of speech.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          They’ll be going after bloggers as well. Vulnerable, private citizens with no corporation or financial backing to support them.

             23 likes

          • Colditz says:

            Law applies to all. So if you want to slander, libel or be racist…accept the consequences. If you don’t, then think about what you say. Simple.

            Just hope it’s a lot easier for ordinary folk to take action against any defamatory or offensive material in any media including Twitter and blogs.

            I suspect some posters here are a bit worried. It’s utterly irrelevant that this blog is hosted elsewhere.

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            • Dave s says:

              I take it you are not in favour of free speech. Mr Preiser , being American , has the protection of the 1st Amendment.
              A fortunate man indeed. We are heading towards a tyranny the like of which has not been seen in England since the 17th century.
              But that is probably all right by you as those who disagree with the prevailng liberal orthodoxy must be all mad or bad.
              Even the Inquisition had more basic honesty that you and your ilk. At least it did not dissemble it’s real intentions.

                 28 likes

              • Dave s says:

                Oh and your phrase ” law applies to all” Chilling in it’s gloating triumphalism.
                You may have won a round in the culture war but these are eraly days yety.

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                • Dave s says:

                  Sorry about the typos.

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                  • stewart says:

                    “Law applies to all. So if you want to slander, libel or be racist”
                    i.e. commit a thought crime ,what this was about all along.

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                    • Albaman says:

                      As slander relates to an oral defamation and libel to defamation by written or printed words then any conviction, by definition, must be based on more than a thought.

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                • Guest Who says:

                  “Chilling in it’s gloating triumphalism.”

                  Yet Albaman leaps in defence on a minor petty semantic point, missing the whole point, albeit deliberately.
                  Colditz has just made the entire case for those appalled at this anti free-speech stitch up in guise of protecting innocents.
                  Leveson/Royal Charter was meant to address illegal abuses.
                  As clearly shown, it appears seen more as a way for petty snitches to feel empowered to grass out any whose views they don’t share… And now feel they can call on certain authorities to help suppressing.
                  The post-wall STASI files were appalling, as much for those in them as those getting to read who was informing on them.
                  That’s a piece of history to remember, too.

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            • chrisH says:

              You`re turning into a sinister piece of work aren`t you?
              Reckon you`ll happily be taking out a few manufactured grievances on people at this site(and others no doubt)…and the likes of Harriet will give you your bounty money.
              Hope you` ll scoot off now, because you seem to be exactly the sort of useful idiot that Stalin(see..not Lenin!) would have loved in the Party.
              My last correspondence with you-creepy!

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            • Ian Hills says:

              The “law applies to all”, eh?

              So racist journalism against whites will be treated as harshly as racist hate crime against whites (grooming, rape etc) is punished at the moment?

              Then there’s anti-male journalism, attacks on Jews thinly disguised as anti-Zionism, the rubbishing of free marketeers, Christians, demonstrators against islamism….

              Will journalists have to treat these victim groups fairly too?

                 27 likes

            • johnnythefish says:

              ‘ Just hope it’s a lot easier for ordinary folk to take action against any defamatory or offensive material in any media including Twitter and blogs’.

              Defamatory, fine – there are existing laws to take care of that. ‘Offensive’ is a different matter altogether and I think gives you away as being firmly in the censorship camp – i.e. censorship of anything that doesn’t fit the left/’liberal’ (ha!) world view.

              If you disagree, please give an example of anything you have read on this website which you would find offensive enough complain about to any new regulatory body i.e. which you think would fall into its new remit.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Colditz, do you have any idea what you’ve just said? Or does this mean I can now expect an apology from you for your two recent slanderous/defamatory comments, and David Vance and Alan can expect apologies as well? You really need to rethink what you’re doing here. Simple.

                 22 likes

            • ltwf1964 says:

              hey dirtbag coldtitz

              what consequences would fit the bill for you for wrongly accusing someone of advocating the beheading of beeboids?

              care to back up your shit by posting your name and address for delivery of the solicitor’s letter?

                 9 likes

              • ltwf1964 says:

                in fact

                if the site team could forward me his IP address,I’ll look into contacting his provider with a view to taking action against him

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                • ltwf1964 says:

                  and also in view of the stuff being talked about here,DV and the guys should probably be looking at outlawing the use of proxies to post

                  if the rest of us use ISP addresses,then the trolls should be forced to as well

                     5 likes

    • #88 says:

      I’ve signed this in the hope that the ‘silent majority of Britain’s will do so too.

      Our freedoms are too valuable to be taken away by a group of sinister, well organised, Marxist activists, fronted by rich celebrity victims caught with their pants down.

      http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47317

         25 likes

  14. Andy S. says:

    Has anyone seen the first episode of “In The Flesh” on BBC3?

    I had the misfortune to give it a try on Sunday night (the programme is being repeated). The plotline is about the aftermath of a flesh-eating zombie apocalypse in Britain. Scientists have developed a serum which is injected into the back of the necks of zombies which suppresses their desire for human flesh and the governments attempts to re-integrate them with their bereaved families and the rest of society. The illogicality of the plotline lost my interest in the programme.

    It was my wife, however, who spotted the subtle propaganda in the programme and she asked me “Are you seeing what I’m seeing?”

    Stirring myself from my boredom with the programme I continued watching.

    It seems that the zombies are being presented as “outsiders” and considered a “victimised minority” by officialdom. As they have a reputation for killing human beings on a massive scale the act of returning them to society is treated with considerable suspicion by local communities.

    The action centres on a rural village where an armed uniformed group known as the “HVF”, which defended the locals against the zombies, struts arrogantly around the place and believe the returning “cured” zombies should be wiped out. The local C of E cleric, portrayed as a creepy Machiavellian extremist, organises public opposition to and demonstrations against the government plan and covertly aids and abets the HVF.

    My wife, who regularly sighs in resignation when I point out BBC bias, said it was obviously an allegory on some attitudes to Muslim groups in this country. The point was underlined when one of the characters was seen watching a television documentary about Jerusalem which lingered on an image of the Al-Aqsa (not sure of the spelling) Mosque. One of the other characters shouts ” They tried to destroy us, why should we have them back?”

    For HVF read EDL. These characters strut around in the manner of Hitler’s brownshirts.

    For zombies read Muslims who are treated with suspicion by the public because of past deeds. All our sympathies are supposed to be with them.

    The main villain of the piece is a Church of England vicar who is shown to be sinister and devious.

    One of the rehabilitated undead logs on to an internet site for troubled zombies which is made in the style of radical Islamist websites. It seems that being treated with suspicion by the locals is radicalising the main zombie character.

    The message couldn’t be any clearer – groups who say they are protecting the public are in reality hate groups. Treating “outsiders” with suspicion is likely to radicalise them. C of E clerics cannot be trusted. Individuals treated with contempt and suspicion by society are portrayed as sympathetic and troubled by their treatment.

    The BBC message is certainly there. Propaganda as entertainment.

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    • Dave s says:

      I am amazed you watched it. It looked pure drivel but your post was interesting.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Rebuilding society after a post-zombie apocalypse was done much better in a Canadian movie called “Fido”.

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      • stewart says:

        Saw review of in the flesh on’ late review.’ looks like my assessment was right.More BBC agit-prop.
        My favourite zombie flick-‘Ozombie bin laden’
        I kid you not ,so bad its good. Available from well know tax dodging on line retailer for less than a fiver, but they only have 9 left.

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    • Bodo says:

      Excellent summary Andy, and a perfect example of what makes so much BBC drama unwatchable – the ‘message’ is always there, about as subtle as a brick and always from the left, pro immigration, pro multiculti, and anti anything remotely right of centre.
      Wait for next weeks episode when the global warming message will undoubtedly feature.
      This crude propaganda is now a fixture of just about every BBC TV prog, it makes them quite literally unwatchable.

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      • It's all too much says:

        AGM and nuclear pollution are no doubt the causes of the Zombie epidemic

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    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘Scientists have developed a serum which is injected into the back of the necks of zombies which suppresses their desire for human flesh and the governments attempts to re-integrate them with their bereaved families and the rest of society.’

      I think the creator of this series needs to read and understand ‘A Clockwork Orange’.

      BBC dimwits.

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    • Maturecheese says:

      Spotted that when I read about it on the TV Times website so didn’t even bother watching it. Not so much subtle more like bleeding obvious.

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    • Ian Hills says:

      I wonder how the “flesh-eating zombie” portrayal of moslems got past the in-house ayatollah, Aaqil Ahmed? The idea of having to inject them with a mind-bending drug because they’re not susceptible to reason sounds quite brave too. Hope the treacherous vicar gets eaten in the end.

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      • Andy S. says:

        The point is the rehabilitated zombies shouldn’t be treated like the flesh eaters. One of the government scientists, when asked what is done with zombies who can’t be rehabilitated says laconically “They’re dealt with.”

        It seems the programme is saying that zombies shouldn’t all be tarred with the same brush. It’s the same message we get when there’s been an Islamist terror attack – “The majority of Muslims are peaceful and law abiding.”

        A bit off topic but the latest news is that some jihadist terrorist group in North Africa have beheaded a French hostage in “retaliation for France’s engagement in Mali.”

        I just find it interesting that so many followers of the Religion of Peace find it so easy to cold bloodedly murder people, without any remorse, in the most gruesome of ways.

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  15. Wild says:

    I watched [BBC] “The Story of British Landscape Painting” last night and noticed that C17th Englishmen who opposed Charles I’s appeasement of Catholic Spain were described (with as much contempt as [I think it was Dan Snow could muster) as “Eurosceptics opposed a united and peaceful Europe.”

    On [BBC] “Heritage” it was disdainfully explained that to preserve your green and pleasant land it is necessary to abolish private property – that tiresome obsession of the British. Thank goodness for those wonderful Bloomsbury Socialists.

    A programme about the Eighteenth Century British novel the bog standard Leftist presenter scratched his head when confronted with the fact that Swift was a Tory – how could anybody be a great writer and a Tory?

    In short it was relentless BBC crap.

    Yes, there was opposition to a “united Europe” – as advocated by Philip II of Spain, and Louis XIV and Napoleon of France, and Hitler and good old Uncle Stalin. Unlike the BBC however I am thankful that those ubermensch Little Englander’s sought to restrain them.

    The reason why England has more surviving domestic medieval buildings than the rest of Europe put together is precisely because of our tradition of respect for private property – until of course the Socialist planning of the C20th which destroyed more (of Georgian Exeter for example according to W.G. Hoskins) than the Nazi bombers ever did.

    It is also the case that many of the greatest writers (yes including satirists from Aristophanes to Waugh) were on the Right politically, so the fact that Swift had conservative views is not the surprise and horror the BBC presented.

    I watched those programmes because I hoped I would be spared the relentless Leftist crap that is such a feature of the rest of the output of the BBC – but no, every corner of this vast 24/7 broadcaster is dedicated to churning out the upper middle class ex-public school boy bourgeois sneering Stalinist crap whose script we all know off by heart. We know every line, every punctuation mark, every inflection, the entire gamut of their self-satisfied sentiments, from A to B.

    I can overlook the moral corruption, and greed, and mediocrity, I can endure the fact that its pinhead Guardian readers arse lick Islam [so much for gays and women’s rights], and yes they hate the free market, and have an Arts graduate understanding of the sciences, yes their snobbery, knee-jerk antisemitism, their hatred of the lower middle class, their hatred of the working class, their hatred of England, is nauseating, but what I truly cannot stand, what truly turns my stomach, is their totalitarianism; their endless instruction in correct Party thinking, their refusal to engage with any view other than their own so original apologetics for Fascism, which as is the fashion they call Anti-Fascism, because while these corporate Statists live off the backs of the poor and hug themselves because they vote Labour, so long we encounter diversity of views, we can make up our own mind.

    But what drives the contemporary BBC more than anything else is their sheer hatred of freedom – your freedom. They are happy to take your money (you have no choice) but encountering a diversity of views so that you might make up your own mind is everything they are against.

    I despise the totalitarian BBC to the bottom of my heart – parasites each and every one.

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    • Dave s says:

      Excellent post. We need to realise that we are in a culture war. At stake is the future of England .The BBC has chosen it’s side. We need to choose ours.
      One thing is in our favour. The average liberal left does not breed in any great numbers. . We will outbreed them if we can but keep our children away from their pernicious influence.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        How can they avoid the socialist shite they’re fed in schools?

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        • Fred Sage says:

          I still have trouble in understanding what Socialism is. Every dictator takes over a country with guns. He shoots any opposition and passes over the running of the country to his children He also lives in great luxery. There has never been a successful socialist country ever: name one. And don’t say Cuba or Sweden.

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          • Wild says:

            Milton Friedman said you can

            1) Spend your money on yourself

            2) Spend your money on others

            3) Spend somebody else’s money on yourself

            4) Spend somebody else’s money on somebody else

            1) is Capitalism

            2) is Charity

            3) is Rent Seeking

            and

            4) is Socialism

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        • Dave s says:

          In the end home schooling is the only answer. There is nothing at all worthwhile in the state system now.

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        • Royboy says:

          Maggie should have done the teachers immediately after the miners.

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          • stewart says:

            She tried and failed.The liberal Inquisition will not easily relinquish its iron grip on our children’s minds.

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      • Maturecheese says:

        Alas one flaw in that view is we ourselves are being outbred by the diverse and vibrant (sarcasm) population foisted upon us by the very people you are on about.

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    • Kyoto says:

      Nepotism was quite rife in the C17th. Did Dan Snow mention how pernicious it was?

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    • Louis Robinson says:

      Sorry Wild, I love your posting but I have a different take: I REFUSE TO OVERLOOK
      *their moral corruption
      *their greed, and mediocrity
      *their rejection of the free market
      *Their primary school knowledge of science
      *Their anti-snobbery snobbery
      *Their knee-jerk antisemitism
      *Their hatred of the lower middle class
      *Their total ignorance of the real working class

      And for me, what I find most distasteful is their hatred of England – a concept they are determined to destroy. Soon “England” will cease to exist as an idea. It’ll be as irrelevant as “Wessex”.

      You are correct, it’s their totalitarianism that scares me most, however, I will not let them off the hook for the rest of it.

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      • chrisH says:

        Now hold on Louis!
        Wessex will be back with a vengeance before too long.
        BBC South and Solent are that bad, there`ll be a revolution before too long.
        Wessex Man is on the march…well on the tractor at the momnet, but you wait!

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        • Louis Robinson says:

          Apologies to fans of BBC Radio Wessex. Problem is, if it happens, it’ll sound like all the others.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Well said Wild and Louis – all the reasons I hate the BBC, in a nutshell.

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    • Joshaw says:

      “I watched those programmes because I hoped I would be spared the relentless Leftist crap that is such a feature of the rest of the output of the BBC – but no, every corner of this vast 24/7 broadcaster is dedicated to churning out the upper middle class ex-public school boy bourgeois sneering Stalinist crap whose script we all know off by heart. We know every line, every punctuation mark, every inflection, the entire gamut of their self-satisfied sentiments, from A to B.”

      The BBC’s entire existence nicely summed up in one paragraph.

      Almost makes me nostalgic for the traditional, working class lefties I remember from the 1960s and 70. Almost.

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  16. Guest Who says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21843284

    ‘An independent regulator, set up by royal charter and with powers to impose million pound fines on UK publishers and demand upfront apologies from them, will regulate newspapers, magazines and websites containing news-related material.’
    So…. broadcasters like the BBC can still stitch up who they like then? With the ex-Labour, DG-aspiring head of OFCOM steering that august body to give them the nod if they err?
    I also note the reporter claims all ‘parties’ are in agreement.
    I am unsure if the print media, excluded from the meeting to which four members of HackedOff were, are.
    The BBC and ‘independent regulation’ are already hardly two things to take seriously in the same breath.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      No bets on just how close this ends up being to “guilty until proven innocent, and you don’t get to defend yourself anyway”.

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      • Albaman says:

        “Guilty until proven innocent” was the view taken by many tabloid newspapers (on both the right and the left) when commenting on some high profile arrests. Those demonised in this way did not get a chance to defend themselves and on most occasions any subsequent “apology” was not headlined on the front page. Instead of looking to blame the BBC perhaps more attention should be given to the newspapers which rode rough shod over the self regulation that was in place.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Instead of jumping on the bandwagon, how about asking yourself why you haven’t noticed that laws already on the books might be enforced instead.

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          • Albaman says:

            Current laws are being enforced in respect of the illegal activities undertaken by the press. Contempt of Court legislation has also been enforced. Unfortunately this enforcement comes after publication.

            I am not jumping on any bandwagon – merely stating that if the newspapers had followed their own voluntary code and properly managed their self regulation then much of what they are now facing would never have occurred.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Currently being enforced, somewhat, yes. But this whole situation wouldn’t exist if those laws had been enforced all along, when it mattered. The police share blame here, but this is something which is meant to exist outside the scope of the judicial system. This is about an unelected body of individuals who will act as judge and jury, with the power to end careers, silence voices, and cause financial hardship. This is about more than just a failure of self-regulation in the press.

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            • Mat says:

              Sorry what did the papers do ? no hacking has been proved just some possible use of a users pin number for voice mail which many of us are too lazy to change ? tough !sorry but if you loose your bank card with a pin of 1234 then no one would be shocked when your bank told you to go shove it ! and you cannot prove anyone’s number was abused really as there is no finger prints and no trail that’s why the police have proved sod all for years ! so actually you are backing press censorship purely because of what you have been fed ! sad truly sad

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              • MD says:

                I’ve always said that the telephone companies should have taken a lot of the blame for delivering such a weak system. Voicemail should have been barred until a pin had been set.

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      • Guest Who says:

        “guilty until proven innocent, and you don’t get to defend yourself anyway”.

        You have just described the BBC expediting procedure, where an anonymous person or committee can internally (with no chance of representation) decide via a secret ‘our word is final’ Star Chamber to ban anyone they can’t wear down by attrition or belief or bluster in face of fact or evidence.
        Albaman, your default defence of such an anti-democratic, free-speech imposition by any pedantic, semantic means really does you or your attempted elephant in the room, angels pinhead arguments little favours.

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    • Dave s says:

      How long before the crime of seditious libel makes it’s comback?
      The left establishment would love that. Imagine- the legal power to declare any statement seditious. The BBC/ Guardian axis would be in seventh heaven hunting down dissenters.

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    • Lynette says:

      And even in the rare instances when the BBC admit they are at fault and the programme is deemed to be “editorally flawed” they can still sell the flawed programme to a US sattelite before the ruling is made against them. (see 2004 ruling http://netanyalynette.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/appeal-to-governors-road-to-armegeddon-)

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  17. George R says:

    BBC ‘Education’ pages censor out this manifestation of Islamisation on U.K. university campuses:-

    “Is segregation on campuses becoming the norm?
    A recent event at the University College London has highlighted how student Islamic groups around the country are segregating women and men in their events”

    by Rupert Sutton .

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2956/is_segregation_on_campuses_becoming_the_norm

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    • noggin says:

      university !?*!? … (shakes head)
      hmm sexual apartheid – obvious conclusion
      its the jooos

         19 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Good link and I was about to say ‘what an eye-opener’. But it’s not really, is it? Presumably whatever feminist groups opearte at UCL are either too sh1t-scared to speak up or they are fully signed up to The Leftist Hierarchy of Causes.

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  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Stephanie Flanders and Robert Peston are in lock-step on the Cyprus money grabbailout. She not only uses his term, “levy”, but even refers to his wisdom to back up her own “analysis”. Worse, she says this:

    Goodness knows, the European authorities have made mistakes before in their handling of the eurozone crisis.

    Some, like the initial reluctance to bail out Greece in 2010, seemed very damaging at the time but were ultimately fixable.

    She still thinks the Greek bailout was working.

    Not only that, but she seems to think that Alistair Campbell hasn’t been treated fairly. Or maybe she means her friends in the Labour Party in general.

    You could say that the lesson of the past few years is that even angry voters really, really want to trust their banks. Just like we all really want to trust our doctors.

    But, as Alistair Darling pointed out on the BBC’s Today programme this morning, once you do finally lose that trust, it can be very difficult indeed to get it back.

    He found that out the hard way. The herd mentality takes over – indeed, joining the herd becomes the rational thing to do.

    Poor lamb, a victim of poor behavior by the ignorant masses. At least she didn’t blame the “Tory press”. Flanders is more concerned about the PR factor, how this was made to look to the public, than about what it all means for democracy, national sovereignty, and any hope of economic sanity. But she’s got all those credentials, so what do I know?

       18 likes

    • Albaman says:

      “She not only uses his term, “levy”…………..”.

      Interestingly the Telegraph reports: “The levy is part of a controversial European Union bank rescue deal ………………” whilst the Daily Mail comments that “Cyprus’s parliament overwhelmingly rejected a proposed levy on bank deposits……..”.

      Does this mean that those bastions of the right wing press are also in “lock-step” with Peston?

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Yes, in this case. Because that’s the terminology the mandarins are using. It has specific connotations, and the Telegraph and Mail are just as bad for using it. She referenced Peston in an appeal-to-authority sort of way as well.

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        • Albaman says:

          So, what you are saying is that “levy” is not, as stated in your original post, Peston’s term.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            No, I’m saying she’s in lock-step with his whole take on it as well. She could have chosen to distinguish her own commentary from others, or – God forbid – have a non-Left slant on it – but just went along with the crowd. Kind of like what she said people did to Alistair Darling…..(not Campbell, obviously, you missed a trick there).

               10 likes

    • Ian Hills says:

      At least Peston is critical of taking money from the depositors – but then he’s got a brain, and so doesn’t have to shag the PLP for bland, complacent quotes.

         5 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Peston isn’t quite that critical, since he sees it as something to punish the banks for allowing the Russians to use them.

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  19. Teddy Bear says:

    When I saw this article yesterday, I had to wonder at the BBC motive:

    Iraq anniversary: war intelligence ‘was a lie’, BBC Panorama documentary to say
    Key intelligence used to justify the invasion of Iraq ten years ago was based on “fabrication” and “wishful thinking”, a documentary is to claim.

    I suppose it keeps attention away from their own wrongdoings and makes them appear moral and upright to the ignorant by bringing ‘new evidence’ to the table.

    The only problem is ‘their evidence’ is flawed.

    The BBC just cannot accept that Iraq is a better place without Saddam Hussein
    By Con Coughlin

       12 likes

    • George R says:

      The political ‘left’ (inc INBBC) is inclined to blame the West for Islamic jihad violence in the world.

      It’s politically instinctive, and not based on detailed independent analysis of the tenets of Islam, nor on historical analysis of Islamic imperialism.

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  20. David Brims says:

    Regarding Red Nose Day

    I watched this garbage in the 1980s and I suspect it’s the same today.

    D List celebrity in a bath tub of baked beans or custard, cue riotous laughter, then it cuts to film of a starving African baby covered in a million flies, to give us a guilt trip ( Where are the parents ? Do these babies appear out of no where ) cuts back to another D List celebrity dressed in drag, cue riotous laughter ( I don’t get that, men dressing up as women ) then back to a film of another starving baby covered in a million flies.

    It’s all about emotion and feelings, blackmailing the brainwashed Eloi to give money. The juxtaposition jars, it’s inappropriate and it doesn’t work.

    Celebrities are very generous for YOU to give money but they don’t give their OWN money. Like Bono, he’s doesn’t pay Irish tax.

    I thought giving money to charity, you had to do it anonymously, If you tell everyone , you’re boasting how pious you are like the Pharisees.

       31 likes

    • Sinniberg says:

      Well, the BBC has managed to insult Christianity once again.

      2200 complaints relating to a sketch by Rowan Atkinson viz Christianity……but I like how they word the article:

      ” The BBC received almost 3,000 complaints in total over the CHARITY FUNDRAISING NIGHT of programming.

      Other complaints over the event – WHICH DREW A PEAK AUDIENCE OF 12.2 MILLION PEOPLE – involved another sketch involving the popular series Call The Midwife”.

      In other words it was for charity and had a viewing figure of 12.2 million(don’t forget the .2) so that’s what’s important.

      Tell you what BBC, do a Muslim sketch next year mocking Allah and see what happens.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21846036

         35 likes

    • David Brims says:

      The population of Africa is 800 Million, by 2050 it will be 2 Billion, by the end of the century it’ll be 4 Billion.

      Guess where they will be heading to ? a clue, the British government has to to find 250,000 school places for them.

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      • London Calling says:

        The ” Commonwealth” – the back door to Britain left open by both politial parties for fear of being labelled racist (by black opportunists)
        Question is, how many Africans can the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea house in £2m houses?

           20 likes

        • David Brims says:

          And of course, all the Enrichment News that is suppressed by the media. I’m overwhelmed by the vibrancy !

          warband.wordpress.com

             15 likes

      • Ian Hills says:

        That’s what the money’s for, to breed future immigrants to Briatain ;)

           11 likes

  21. Teddy Bear says:

    a href=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9938520/BBC-accused-of-self-indulgence-over-Television-Centre-farewell.html>BBC accused of ‘self-indulgence’ over Television Centre farewell

    While it’s clear nobody has to watch these programmes, it shows the mindset of the BBC to think that licence fee payers really want to watch egoists talking about their favourite subject – themselves.

    One can imagine the dismissive BBC response to criticism it gets as one is reading the article. See if it matches what you expected at the end.

    As is typical when comments are posted on the BBC website that the BBC prefers not to air, ‘Dozens of comments were also removed after breaking editorial guidelines.’ Which, since the BBC decides what these ‘guidelines’ are, gives it free rein.

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      • Loved this piece in the article

        Dozens of comments were also removed after breaking editorial guidelines.

        I find it fascinating that they police this, but allow their journalists to rant on Twitter with their socialist claptrap relying on the “my tweets are my own” whilst using their BBC credentials to gather followers for their otherwise pointless outpourings.

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        • Guest Who says:

          “fascinating that they police this, but allow their journalists to rant on ”

          Good point.
          It seems odd that the entire focus of the BBC, its staff & apologists is doing all in their power to identify, suppress or censor legitimate criticism, whilst tolerating via sidestep or promotion those within the organisation knowingly abusing the privilege of journalistic status to misinform.
          Lord McAlpine got around £180k of licence fee payer’s money because of the deliberate actions of a collection of BBC staff, near all still also on payroll.
          Is one to presume the BBC will be immune from the £1M proposed fine in future for such things, or if not simply dips in to the unique funding pot to cover it when they do?
          The full force of the BBC being deployed to seek accountability for what a political (that they’re not meant to have) foe says (or, it turns out doesn’t) seems disproportionate to them shrugging when staff members consistently misreport war zone propaganda that turns the febrile into lethal.
          Being compelled to fund such double standards, with the added new quirk of being warned off for expressing even concern, is getting more than vexing.

             12 likes

        • Teddy Bear says:

          Yes, the Ministry of Thought is really looking forward to the day when they can round up all those dissenters who don’t follow their prescribed agenda, and subject them to ‘further education’ until they’re ‘cured’.

          Medically if necessary.

          For now they pretend that we just don’t exist by deleting our posts from their website.

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      Maybe the only good thing to come out of this ‘self reverence':

      It’s what we knew anyway, but John Cleese has seen it up close

      John Cleese: ‘The BBC management have never written and never directed programmes’
      Monty Python star John Cleese complains that BBC execs are out of touch with the creative process.

         14 likes

      • Louis Robinson says:

        Mr Cleese should have added that, with reference to recent events, BBC management has not managed either.

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  22. Teddy Bear says:

    We have noted quite a few examples in the past showing a definite attempt by the BBC to spin their agenda to kids and ‘get them at an early age’.

    Lord Tebbit, the former cabinet minister, has just noticed.

    CBBC viewers are told ministers are ‘cutting too hard and too fast’

    Lord Tebbit, the former cabinet minister, says children’s television used be free of politics. Not any more. He is dismayed that the BBC is putting across overtly political messages on CBBC in a Newsround special.

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  23. chrisH says:

    Ah, but who else?
    Who else but John Humphrys to tell us all about the current confluence and new alignments to be found as the new Pope and the new Archbishop of Canterbury take up their roles?
    Yes-this card-carrying Godless atheist who still blames God( as opposed to the Coal Board) for Aberfan in 1966 is JUST the man to inform us about 21st Century Christianity.
    Let me see-women bishops, gay clergy, child abuse Magdalene laundries, no one attending anymore whether at the BBCs Chapel or in a Rio favella…Jesus might as well take up surfing now dudes…nobody listens to Him anymore.
    Course not John…and will you really need 45 mins to give us your considered conclusions then…they seem pretty stitched up to me!
    Next week…Nick Griffin and his view of Labour policies since Blair and Brown turned the Party into the shameless shambles that it now is.
    Or maybe Dan Hannans history of the EU, bang up to date with Cyprus?
    Nah, thought not!

       18 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Oh…did I mention condoms? the rather entrenched positions re abortions?…will John?
      Need I ask!

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  24. Ian Rushlow says:

    Apparently paying a TV tax makes people happy – looks like the BBC “got that about right”, then. This rather surreal article reveals all http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/happy_happy_tv_tax/
    Presumably the 142,375 people convicted and sentenced in 2011 for not paying for a TV licence and the 74 actually imprisoned for not doing so were not surveyed.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Apparently paying a TV tax makes people happy’
      Given the current efforts in clamping down on unapproved views being run by ex-BBC staffers, their mates in LabLib, and ably PR’d by their mates still back at the ranch, the ‘Triumph of the Will’ nature of such ‘repeat it often enough’ efforts really is getting downright creepy.
      I also note with interest who seems to have got in to comment first and what support has been garnered.
      Now it may be the The Register has suddenly attracted devotees of the BBC to the point of adulation, but one has to wonder if yet more ways to play with the figures have been concocted by those without doubt more savvy in media manipulation (and I don’t mean that in a good way).
      There was another post here recently to a Daily Mail piece that had two comments with double the likes of the next. These comments did not appear in keeping with usual DM audience balance.

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  25. David Brims says:

    Off topic, Christian vicar invites muslims to pray in his church. The comments underneath are all ” isn’t this wonderful.”

    Don’t they realise this is heresy and they’re clueless about the threat of islam.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295149/Christians-roll-welcome-Muslims-having-pray-wind-rain-mosque-small.html

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    • David Brims says:

      Muslims wanted to pray in the cathedral of Cordoba, which was once a mosque, the catholics told them to ” Get Lost.” Good for them.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObXa19VzzJg

         20 likes

    • Andy S. says:

      Have just seen highlights of the investiture of the new Archbishop of Canterbury. Couldn’t believe the Multi-Culti emphasis on what should be a traditional service. Choir singing a song in Punjabi, African dancers and an Asian girl ceremonially inviting the new Archsbishop into the cathedral – a role that should be enacted by a C of E cleric.

      I’m an atheist myself but I see now why the Church of England is dying on it’s feet. It seems the new Archbishop is just Rowan Williams Mk. 2. No wonder many Anglicans are deciding to convert to Catholicism. Despite all their faults and scandals, the Catholic faith does seem to adhere to its centuries old traditions.

      One thing I am thoroughly sick of, though, is the incessant Multi-Culti crap shoved down our throats. Even adverts on commercial TV stations are full of it. Notice the number of adverts where the first faces to be shown are black or brown, white faces are increasingly becoming secondary. It gives the impression that there are more Afro-Caribbean and Asian inhabitants in this country than the actual numbers suggest.

      The propaganda is incessant and insidious.

         4 likes

  26. uncle bup says:

    “The NHS: Keeping Britain Alive. Next week on BBC2″

    The droids just don’t do irony do they.

       24 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Brilliant! You really cheered me up. Surely they must ‘pull’ that one even at the risk of another BBC crisis .

         17 likes

  27. It's all too much says:

    I was musing the other day – any one else notice the almost complete extinction of male sports correspondents on the BBC, and the almost total absence of any ‘male interest’ programmes (with the honourable – single – exception of Top Gear) from the schedules. FFS if they made a show about motor maintenance for BBC3 it would attract a male viewership but who would it be presented by?

    Also as someone else pointed out women tend to be appear on the BBC as powerful strong willed people in Stereotype 1 (middle class) getting on with their ‘hectic’ lives – usually juggling two children, and a high powered job where she is cleverer than everyone else and suffers sexual harassment or discrimination… in Stereotype 2 (Working Class) Again strong willed single parent doing a menial job beneath her abilities but she is going to night school with a view to a university course – whilst juggling two children……..

    Men are shown as all having one or more of these characteristics….
    Pathetic
    Aggressive
    Autistisc / Aspergers
    vicious
    stupid
    selfish
    manipulative
    criminal
    subserviant
    and in some cases literally wicked (there is an extremely unhealthy fixation with deviant murders)

    The point is none of the portrayals are ‘positive’. I wonder why?

       33 likes

    • Joshaw says:

      “Men are shown as all having one or more of these characteristics….
      Pathetic
      Aggressive
      Autistisc / Aspergers
      vicious
      stupid
      selfish
      manipulative
      criminal
      subserviant”

      Unless they happen to be …… go on ……. guess!

         22 likes

    • David Brims says:

      You mean like all this, whites are portrayed as geeks and losers and ethnic minorities are cool and hip.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&list=UUZ-KrpBXzLL1Lx1Fqbc9rIg&v=SKJCAF-eYxY

         17 likes

    • Reed says:

      This is a revealing video – especially at around 3:30
      The visibility of men in a nagative context
      The invisibility of men in positive roles

         8 likes

      • Reed says:

        More like this here, it’s an excellent YouTube channel…

        http://www.youtube.com/user/manwomanmyth/videos?view=0

           3 likes

      • It's all too much says:

        Many thanks for the link. I have spent a couple of hours looking at his material and it really is excellent. Any chance that the BBC would push the boundaries of modern orthodoxy and allow him to make a TV programme putting this thesis forward?

        Fat chance. ITV is willing to put a male victim of domestic violence as a core element of Coronation St – and in a positive way. I cannot recall ever seeing a BBC drama with a similar premise. All I see is that male presenters get thinner on the ground and the BBC has abandoned programming for men. Basically I think men have given up on TV apart from current affairs, politics, the odd documentary what remains of sport and Top Gear. This is substantiated by ITV advertising which gives a a fair indicator of who is watching and making decisions in live – the only ads aimed at men seem to be for [some] cars,

        Male programming seems to have migrated to subscription channels. The BBC fails to meet the needs of all its veiwership – deliberately, despite being funded by a ‘mandatory’ poll tax that nets them 4bn squandering money PA.

        Do any contributors know if there is a demographic analysis of BBC programming available to the public? I’d love some facts to substantiate my assertions……

           5 likes

        • Reed says:

          Glad you liked it. If you liked that, I can thoroughly recommend another by the name of ‘girlwriteswhat’. She’s a Canadian male rights activist. I think she’s absolutely fantastic. Here’s her YouTube channel. There’s an enormous amount of material here. Each video is incredibly well researched – she really knows her stuff, and it has so much more power coming from a woman. She’s super…

          http://www.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat/videos?view=0

             3 likes

          • Aerfen says:

            I was horrified at that ad you showed. If the ‘smart’ man had been white too, it would have been acceptable, one smart and one the sad geek, but to juxtapose the ‘smart’ good looking black man against the unattrcative and stupid (though geeky) white man, as well as making the white girl out to be a fool, though pretty was VICIOUS racism.

            The question should always be, would reversing the races be acceptable? If not then the scenario IS racist!

               10 likes

          • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

            According to Diane Abbott, it’s all the fault of men again.

            “One reason I am anxious to make a big speech about men, boys and male identity is to nail the lie that feminism is somehow the cause of the problem.”

               4 likes

            • Lynette says:

              When I signed letters of complaint to the BBC they were definately treated less seriously than when my husband signed them , even though they were a joint effort. This was 10 years ago but I wonder if anything has changed!

                 0 likes

  28. pedro says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294198/Special-report-Did-Socialist-Workers-Party-cover-NINE-rapes-Kangaroo-court-cleared-official-raping-teenage-member-scandal-goes-far-deeper.html…here is the thing comrades..this is a scandal,,,,a big scandal..from the rochdale muslim paedophile groomers to the jimmy savile paedo sex nests at the bbc it just gets worst,,now,i ask this question comrades with respect,,why have the bbc and other media outlets gone silent on these allegations of mass rape on swp women by swp men..i cant get my head around this,,,this story warrants a big phone in on the nicky campell and stephen nolan show,,all i hear is silence from the bbc and 5 live..why i ask ,,why.

       24 likes

    • stewart says:

      This puts some ‘context’ on the UAFs (SWP client organisation) lack of embarasment, over their physical defense of the ‘asian’ groming gangs outside of liverpool crown court.

         21 likes

  29. Neil Miller says:

    Most amusing this morning had a BBC interview with Tony Blair about his decision to invade Iraq 10 years ago.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21839884

    He said “What would be happening now in Iraq if had been left in power?” implying that Blair had brought peace to the country.

    Then a matter of hours later, the BBC’s latest headline:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21840718

    “Baghdad hit by deadly blasts on invasion anniversary” with 60 people killed.

    Funnily enough Blair’s story no longer seems to be linked to from the front page :-)

    RIP to those killed in that attack today.

       18 likes

  30. David Brims says:

    It’s all too much

    You may like this site ” AWM , Anti White Media blog

    ”Exposing the Subtle and Blatant Ways in Which the Media Seeks to Denigrate and Humiliate People of European or Caucasian Descent, One Image at a Time.”

    http://www.antiwhitemedia.com

       16 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Colditz will be twitching with frustration because he won’t be able to report the website to the press regulator for being ‘offensive’.

         17 likes

    • It's all too much says:

      My point was about the way the BBC has become ‘feminised’ to the exclusion of 49% of the population and the deliberate way that it selects programmes and presenters to, yet again, socially engineer Britain. – Not racism or afirmitive action etc.

      Women are placed in traditionally ‘male’ interest areas (sports, defence etc) specifically because they are traditionally male interest areas.

      Drama is aimed almost exclusively at women as is ‘light entertainment’ (who is the main focus of Come Dancing for example?). Soaps go without saying. Because the programming is for women, men are shown as per the list of negatives. And yes, the BBC is also very adept at shoe horning in people – however anachronistic or inappropriate – to demonstrate the value of a multi cultural Britain – and to prove that it has always existed

         18 likes

      • Deborah says:

        I haven’t listened to the Archers since Nigel fell off the roof – but it certainly was that the men were weak idiots and that it was only the women that saved them from the next disaster.

           7 likes

  31. JimS says:

    “Energy Secretary Ed Davey told MPs in the Commons that he was granting planning consent for French energy giant EDF to construct Hinkley Point C in Somerset.

    The proposed £14bn power plant would be capable of powering five million homes.”

    The bias of liberal arts stupidity: The SI unit of power is the watt (W). The “home”, I’m afraid is meaningless to those of us ‘wot lernt sience at skul’ and, I suggest, anyone else.

    [Are they ‘Carbon Neutral’ homes? Fully electrically heated homes? Pensioner’s homes with one 11W lamp and an analogue radio? Unmarried mother’s homes with eleven kids, TVs in every room and an electrically heated stable?]
    Give us the facts, watt’s wrong with that>

       17 likes

    • John wood says:

      You obviously haven’t lived. There are several UK Units – for instance “London Double Decker” is the standard unit of length, “Nelson’s Column” the standard unit of height and the “Area of Wales” the standard unit of area.

      In view of recent events, referring to the consumption of energy as ‘horsepower’ may be a tad unfortunate.

         18 likes

  32. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    More Tory cuts

    Budget 2013: Osborne to unveil extra £2.5bn in cuts
    The government is to announce further spending cuts in Wednesday’s Budget, with the savings going to large-scale infrastructure projects designed to boost economic growth.

       8 likes

  33. stuart says:

    beware of fascists posing as anti fascists,the swp are the falsely named unite against fascism all but in name,the nazis were the national socalist party of germany all but in name,scratch under the surface of the socalist workers party and unite against fascism and all kind of nasty things come crawling to the surface,the swp and the uaf are the biggest con since the bbc pretending they are impartial

       19 likes

    • thoughtful says:

      Funny but the EDL is a multicultural group, even attracting Sikh members following a case of Moslems raping a young Sikh girl in Luton.
      The UAF (United Association of Fascists) support a single group which claims superiority over all others, and supports them in their ambition to kill all Jews & Gays.

      I think I’ve heard this story before!

         19 likes

  34. Jeff Waters says:

    Today should be interesting, with it being Budget day! I bet we get a year’s worth of bias in a single day!

    Jeff

       12 likes

    • thoughtful says:

      I don’t think that the bBC will need to present any bias at all, the figures are so bad. With a further £2.5 Billion more cuts expected, no growth a possible triple dip recession, a Chancellor who created an ‘omnishambles’ budget last year, and Cameron’s apparent desire to wreck the Conservative party, there’ll be no need for bias at all, just report as it is and wait for the train wreck.

         3 likes

      • Jeff Waters says:

        I haven’t yet watched the coverage, but I’d be willing to bet that the question the Beeb will be asking is ‘Are the cuts too deep?’, not ‘Are the cuts deep enough?’…

        Jeff

           4 likes

        • John wood says:

          I listened to 5-live, not much bias, but it seemed they tried everyone to find someone who had anything nasty to say about the budget.

          I liked the curry manufacturer saying how the removal of the petrol duty escalator and reduction of corporation tax would help and then to the pleading “But aren’t you doing badly in the recession” said that business was expanding nicely.

          “So a firm that seems to be doing OK” was the catch line back to the tent outside Parliament.

             8 likes

  35. AsISeeIt says:

    Nicky Campbell and Rachel Burdon now extracting a huge amount of lame humour from the fact that George Osborne has opened a Twitter account.

    They ask listeners to send in their comments. I wonder what the political profile of those responding to that request will be? I’m sure great hilarity will soon ensue.

    Really, these Tories are fools to themselves.

       11 likes

  36. thoughtful says:

    Oh Dear Mr Humphries, talking about the cyber attack on South Korea

    ‘ And I’m not suggesting that the South is at war with anyone’

    Well why aren’t you because the North & the South are still at war with each other , no peace treaty has ever been signed and it’s only the buffer zone and the presence of foreign troops which keeps the two sides apart.

    Of course this is another example of communist left wing aggression so I guess it’s not palatable to the bBC

       16 likes

  37. noggin says:

    interesting take on the “fudge cake ” decision on press restriction … actually from across the pond

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/press-freedom-in-peril/2238311032001

       8 likes

    • noggin says:

      although george igler is always worth watching …
      THIS is even better for this blogs readers.

      http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/tearing-down-free-speech/2114523752001

      just mark the similarities here between al bbc narrative
      and this waste of oxygen … peas in a pod :-D
      yep! … a surefire doppelganger
      ezra gleefully just keeps prodding, :-D i.e. don t want to discuss, don t interrupt, free speech is good but hate speech? not for haters/bigots ya da ya da
      all the old tricks, grandstanding, time filling etc.

         10 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        Great link, noggin. This self-righteous leftist/fascist (and ‘7th year human rights and sexuality studies student’) who likes to think he and his ilk are the only moral arbiters of what is ‘offensive’ is a taste of things to come from our new system of press regulation.

        Recommended viewing.

           7 likes

  38. Dave666 says:

    Failed squaddie Billy Bragg on the BBc Breakfast sales / promotion spot -Oh no what a shame I missed it.

       16 likes

  39. thoughtful says:

    Oh Dear God
    Lenin in Letchworth and some fool banging on about Christian socialism, and how Christ was the first socialist, now we have Christian Communism! Of course there’s no mention about the opiate of the masses.

       16 likes

  40. Guest Who says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/9940725/The-end-of-an-era-photographer-documents-last-days-of-BBC-Television-Centre.html?frame=2513968

    A few images here suggest opportunity for satire.
    I like the picture of the news department at No. 8.

       3 likes

    • stewart says:

      from comments
      It’s like having access to the inner sanctum of some deposed communist dictatorship.

      The last days of Ceausescu spring to mind.

         1 likes

  41. ltwf1964 says:

    Huw Edwards on Budget 2013 announcing that they had their own “experts” in the studio to comment on Osborne’s speech

    but then the camera panned to Toenails,Peston and Flounders

    experts!!!!! :)

    I ask you

       28 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Toenails,Peston and Flounders’
      As some here will doubtless claim, ‘entirely representative’.
      Of what is another matter.
      Surely there was someone other than two BBC Labour groupies and a their Mirror ‘Tory Toff’ loop generator?
      Or have they really given up pretending?

         20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Newsnight’s top tweeters, whose views probably do pretty much sum up those of their employers, suggest they have their analysis of the budget already well planned in advance:
      BBC Newsnight @BBCNewsnight 13h
      Allegra Stratton has the latest on the Chancellor’s leaky budget #newsnight

      BBC Newsnight @BBCNewsnight 13h
      Paul Mason on why George Osborne’s strategy to cut borrowing and boost growth has failed and what happens next #newsnight

      Luckily, any with counter views can soon be either banned or locked up.
      Unique. Not too healthy, but unique.

         11 likes

    • Ralph says:

      The son of a Labour peer and someone who had ummm relations with both Miliband and Balls providing ‘impartial’ coverage again?

         17 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      ‘Toenails, Peston and Flounders’?

      Sounds like a firm of dodgy accountants (or solicitors).

         11 likes

  42. Fred Bloggs says:

    Red is the colour; goes the lyrics of a song. bBC seem to have let the colour red go to their collective brain cell. All backgrounds both web and news use red.

    Now what political party has the same colour scheme, why the bBC political master’s of course.

       19 likes

  43. Guest Who says:

    There was recently a disturbance in the Farce when certain advocational aspects of the brainwashing, ‘get-em-young’ curriculum were dropped in favour of actually learning stuff.
    Not to worry. Where there’s a limitless budget there’s a way…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2013/03/school_report_news_day_2013.html

       5 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      There was a socialist regime in Germany in the 1930,s which also believed like the BBC, that young people had more wisdom than the older generation.

         6 likes

  44. Guest Who says:

    Credit where due.
    Last night I watched ‘The Challenger’.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00zstkn

    Very good it was too.
    However what was most gripping was the exploration not just of the cause of the failure that caused the shuttle to fail, but all the back room shenanigans going on to ensure that whatever truth came out, it was passed through a very dubious set of filters before the public got to hear it.
    Given all the BBC is on record as getting up to, with a lot more off record behind FoI exclusions lurking, at a time when it seems pretty clear the gutting of free speech is being facilitated if not orchestrated by the shadowy cabals behind our most untrustworthy national policy influencer, this seems brave indeed.

       12 likes

    • mike fowle says:

      The Challenger was good, mainly because William Hurt and Brian Dennehy are such good actors, and they were well supported. But there was still some BBC political baggage. Did you notice the subtle contempt that Reagan was treated with? And of course the whole premise of the programme – the military conspiracy forcing a premature launch. It would be interesting to see just accurately that reflects the book. Still, better than the usual fare.

         11 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      The vested interest thing made me think of the BBC’s Climate Change seminar.

      Pity there was not anyone like Sally Ride, Donald Kutyna and Richard Feynman invited to seminar. Just a bemused Richard North, shocked by the ignorance of the morons invited to determine the BBC’s Climate Change policy.

         9 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Just a bemused Richard North, shocked by the ignorance of the morons invited’
        Indeed.
        There was another notable difference.
        In the movie (one presumes reflecting reality), Prof. Feynman’s persistence in seeing truth prevail paid off, even in the face of considerable resistance from the politico-military estate.
        The media seemed pretty much out of the loop.
        If the BBC had been any part of it, I doubt the outcome would have been the same.
        Certainly they seem a power able to muzzle anything or anyone if they so choose.
        After WMDs to errant nonces, when the BBC ‘investigates’, I’d not be climbing into any rocket they deemed safe.
        Which at £4Bpa to educate and inform, is a trust factor that those who compel me to fund them no matter what, may consider.

           5 likes

  45. noggin says:

    http://freebeacon.com/obamas-middle-east-map-erases-israeli-territory/

    Obama will not bring peace plan because Israel is not interested?

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2013/03/17/Preparations-under-way-ahead-of-Obama-s-official-visit.html

    “It is shocking to think that you can disqualify students just because they learn in the West Bank. I do not understand how President Obama wants to conduct a dialogue with the Israeli public when he is consciously excluding part of it

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/labor-mk-calls-on-students-to-boycott-obama-speech/

    anyone see a pattern emerging?

    oh and bbc news? … jerusalem voices?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21831396

    a new obama post highlighting “slap in the face”?
    reporting an arab “People are angry and disappointed that this far into his presidency Obama has done nothing, and aid to Israel’s occupation continues to flow,” he said

    and … lard mardell as ever inconsequential, some pap about being nice?

    i did click to the comments …
    “After seeing the censorship being wielded here today about anything factual I don’t think I’ll even bother to comment! Apart from to say that most of us already know the truth!” oor err missus

    indeed.

    al bbc too busy making a big a”anti colonialism” noise over iraq i suppose.

       9 likes

  46. thoughtful says:

    Steph Flanders giving Ed Balls a real hard time on budget live that the government have in fact done what he has been proposing why is he criticising, then attacking his sources who don’t support his economics.

       16 likes

  47. Job says:

    Heh, heh. Great watching Stephanie Flanders tear a strip off her ex-boyfriend Ed Balls on BBC2 just now. Wasn’t expecting it at all. Huw Edwards didn’t interfere, and she was allowed to have a go at him for several minutes uninterrupted. Do you think Ed made her do something she didn’t want to at University?

       32 likes

    • Aerfen says:

      No, he just married Yvette didnt he?

         10 likes

    • smell the glove says:

      tear a strip all she said was osbourne is spending as mutch as darling said you would

         2 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Keep it in perspective, though. Compared to the usual behavior, that’s a devastating cut the bone for the BBC, especially Flanders, who is usually the one to echo Balls’ economic views.

           3 likes

  48. #88 says:

    I see the BBC were all of a lather as the Chancellor stood up.

    Toenails: Big row brewing…budget leaked to the Standard, the excitement and implication being that Osborne was on course for another omnishambles responsible for a leak reflecting his incompetence. More later we’re told, with grave intonation.

    But, a la McAlpine, the BBC were suffering from a dose of premature congratulation – once again they thought that they’d got a Tory.

    But nothing later, like a damp squib, it’s all gone quiet. No chance of Osborne’s head as it turns out that an official embargo had been breached by the ‘Standard’ and, at fault it transpires, is someone from the lefty Independent / Standard stable. I doubt if we’ll hear much more from the BBC on this.

       24 likes

  49. Reed says:

    Snort!…

    Eric Pickles quips in speech at Press Gallery lunch about Leveson reforms: “The Leader of the Opposition, Lord Hugh Grant of Rodeo Drive.”— joncraigSKY (@joncraig) March 19, 2013

       26 likes

  50. thoughtful says:

    Thinking allowed – or maybe not!

    When the Italian lady being interviewed about farmers markets in Italy got onto the subject of immigration which was unseen in Italy until the 2000s she talked about the reaction of people in the market which was quite hostile to the immigrants.

    Oh no no no the listeners can’t be subjected to that kind of acceptance of casual racism, after all everyone must love immigration & immigrants regardless of how poor their behaviour. So Laurie Taylor quickly steps in the steer the conversation back to something more approved of by the bBC.

       30 likes

    • Aerfen says:

      Theyre caught in a Catch22 though, because on the one hand they don’t want anyone to think that any kind of ‘racism’ (such as opposing mass immigration) is normal and widespread, it must be seen as extremist and deviant. On the other hand they will not accept the reality that Brits are exceptionally unracist (one reason why immigranst love Britain so much) because this takes away the *victim* status of immigrants and goes against their desire to favour them for jobs, housing and educational opportunities over nasty ‘racist’ Brits.

         25 likes

      • uncle bup says:

        I’m trying to write an authorised biography of Joseph Heller.

        But the publishers won’t sign til I’ve got the family on board, and the family won’t speak to me til I’ve got the contract from the publisher.

        Bummer

        ;-)

           10 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Theyre caught in a Catch22 though’
        That would be a major, major problem you’d think, but luckily they have ways and means to turn all to their advantage.
        Like the Dateline London complaint I know that is still stuck in limbo, as ‘the BBC’ (being some kind of odd entity nothing to do with staff or output) looked into it, and ‘discovered’ that the Director who looks after who gets booked can’t talk about what guests say, and the Director who addresses what gets said can’t talk about who gets booked.
        Then the guidelines say they they can’t talk to each other.
        Hence ‘the BBC’ appears to think that the BBC rules have arranged that two BBC staff who need to communicate can’t, and hence they can’t resolve the problem so… it doesn’t exist!
        I did not make that up.

           8 likes