FRIDAY OPEN THREAD…

Here you go and as requested! BBC ecstatic that UK economic growth shrank in Q4.

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  1. Pounce says:

    How the bBC promotes its left-wing anti western pro Islamic terrorist agenda:
    Mali crisis: US admits mistakes in training local troops
    The US military commander in Africa says the Pentagon made mistakes in its training of Malian troops now trying to oust Islamists from the north.Gen Carter Ham of United States Africa Command (Africom) said its forces had failed to train Malian troops on “values, ethics and a military ethos”. He was speaking after reports of abuses by Mali government troops taking part in the French-led counter-offensive.

    So the bBC which crows about the beauty of Islamic sharia law every chance it gets (more on that later) jumps on the words of the leader of AFRICOM in which to shout out about the bad treatment Islamic terrorists are getting at the hands of the people they terrorised and that actually all this is the fault of the Americans Here is a little something the bBC kind of left out of the above sob story for Allah’s favourite terrorists.
    Is a General losing his job over Benghazi?
    On October 18, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta appeared unexpectedly at an otherwise unrelated briefing on “Efforts to Enhance the Financial Health of the Force.” News organizations and CSPAN were told beforehand there was no news value to the event and gave it scant coverage. In his brief remarks Mr. Panetta said, “Today I am very pleased to announce that President Obama will nominate General David Rodriguez to succeed General Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.” This came as a surprise to many, since General Ham had only been in the position for a year and a half.

    So General Ham who the bBC quotes as saying the bad treatment of terrorists in Mali is all the fault of the US. Leaves out he was sacked in Nov by the Obama administration in order to allow Obama and Clinton to save face. So really this is Gen Ham’s way of sticking the boot in.

    Not that the bBC would ever mention that.
    The bBC, the traitors in our Midst

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    • George R says:

      MALI: who is the enemy?

      -According to Islam Not BBC (INBBC), not Islamic jihad murderers (‘militants’), but Mali government and U.S!

      INBBC censors out the atrocities committed by the invading Islamic jihadists:-

      “‘Mali refugees have seen rebels cut off hands’”

      http://www.france24.com/en/20130121-mali-refugees-unhcr-interview-islamist-cut-off-hands

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    • Louis Robinson says:

      In the final Presidential debate, GOP candidate Mitt Romney was mocked for bringing up the spread of terrorism to Mali.

      Remember that Romney said this: “With the Arab Spring, came a great deal of hope that there would be a change towards more moderation, and opportunity for greater participation on the part of women in public life, and in economic life in the Middle East. But instead, we’ve seen in nation after nation, a number of disturbing events. Of course we see in Syria, 30,000 civilians having been killed by the military there. We see in — in Libya, an attack apparently by, I think we know now, by terrorists of some kind against — against our people there, four people dead.

      Our hearts and — and minds go out to them. Mali has been taken over, the northern part of Mali by Al Qaeda type individuals.”

      Here’s the response from slimy US “comedian” Bill Maher: “Mitt, do you know that most of America thinks Mali is one of Obama’s daughters.”

      The New Yorker sneered that Romney had given “a mini-seminar on Mali.” Le Monde mocked “Mali Appears On Mitt Romney’s Radar”. “Molly? Oh, Mali,” live-blogged The Guardian. The BBC’s world service – the fount of all international knowledge – was silent. And now at last we have a BBC story – of course an anti Us military piece.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21195371

      But which President’s policies are responsible for the pro-Islamist “Arab Spring” policy that has allowed Mali to be armed and dangerous? Isn’t it ironic that the administration that is taking guns away from US citizens is helping its sworn enemies arm themselves?

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      • London Calling says:

        Sadly the Obama-puppy media will never report how they betrayed us all to support The One. Mitt who?

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  2. scoobywho says:

    “The rise in drug resistant infections is comparable to the threat of global warming, according to the chief medical officer for England.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21178718

    Phewwww, and I thought it was a serious problem.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Interesting headline too: Antibiotic ‘apocalypse’ warning which I find telling given the seriousness being conveyed, yet as far as I can gather not reflected in the reaction so far.
      Is it possible the BBC cries wolf so often no one pays heed?
      If so, their education and information value would appear now to be… zero.
      Notice that there’s only one decent drug left to treat an STD from another time.
      Lucky the UK does not seem to be open to all sorts of coves who appear prone to introducing such things to this green and oozing land.

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      • aerfen says:

        No mention of the misuse of antibiotics in other countries, especially Third World, where they are freely available from pharmacies, and given what we know of Third World trained pharmacists corruption a good deal of the prescription only are probably freely available too!

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20633639

        The BBC did well to report this – clearly having a non PC *moment*

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  3. Pounce says:

    How the bBC whitewashes the Islamic theological Government of Irans treatment of its prisoners as exemplary
    Iran’s Evin prison: Jail or ‘hotel’?
    On Monday, a group of Iranian MPs who visited the notorious Evin prison described Iran’s biggest jail for political prisoners as a “hotel”. “From now on, I will call it Hotel Evin, rather than Evin prison,” one of them, Safar Naeimi, said after his six-hour tour of the complex in the capital, Tehran.But in recent years, many prisoners of conscience, who were mostly arrested after the post-election protests of 2009, have complained about their conditions in Evin.

    So the bBC reports about the fantastic treatment afforded to its prisoners (In stark contrast to US/UK and Israeli prison conditions) I quote from the bold side quote inserted into the article:
    “The quality of Evin’s food is better than the food at my home.”
    Safar Naeimi
    MP

    The bBC then find a former inmate to wax lyrical about the conditions found within Evin Prison.
    Mohammadreza Mohseni-Sani, one of the four visiting MPs, said prisoners “had no complaints regarding security, health, nutrition and the facilities provided at the prison”. Mr Naeimi said the prison’s hospital was of the highest quality, while the kitchen served good food and offered a diverse menu.

    In fact the bBC points out that the only complaints are about the food, that some people get placed in solitary confinement for being disruptive:
    The outspoken daughter of the former president was put in solitary confinement last month and was barred from any visits for “disrupting prison order”, because she had protested against the situation in the women’s ward.
    So all in all the bBC promotes this view that Iranian prisons run under Sharia law are a lot better run than Western prisons.

    Here is what the bBC kind of left out about Evin prison.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Link pounce ?

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    • Pounce says:

      Evin Prison inmates say they witnessed torture to death of Iranian blogger
      Inmates of the Evin Prison, northwest of the Iranian capital Tehran, have testified to seeing blogger Sattar Beheshti being brutally tortured to death by prison authorities.

      And here is one from the bBC’s own news web site:
      Canadian journalist ‘beaten to death’
      Iran has acknowledged that a Canadian-Iranian photojournalist was beaten to death after her arrest outside a prison in Tehran.
      Vice President Ali Abtahi said Zahra Kazemi died “of a brain haemorrhage resulting from beatings”. Ms Kazemi, 54, was detained on 23 June for taking pictures of Tehran’s Evin prison. She was later pronounced dead after falling into a coma

      and here is what that bBC account failed to report:
      Kazemi showed obvious signs of torture, including:
      Evidence of a very brutal rape.
      A skull fracture, two broken fingers, missing fingernails, a crushed big toe and a broken nose.
      Severe abdominal bruising, swelling behind the head and a bruised shoulder.
      Deep scratches on the neck and evidence of flogging on the legs.

      Here’s the wiki entry for the bBC’s nice prison

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evin_Prison

      The bBC, the whitewasher of Islamic ugliness

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Fox News now has a report about Evin Prison that’s pretty much the opposite of the story the BBC pushed. Yes, it’s Fox News, and I’m citing it deliberately not so much to prove the BBC wrong as to show that, since Fox News is supposed to be Right Wing, then the opposite side must be the Left.

      The BBC got a supporter, and Fox News got a dissenter. They’re both biased.

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  4. Selohesra says:

    To be fair to BBC – Humphrey’s did a quite sensitive interview with concentration camp survivor just after 8.00 news. Quite a prime time interview

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I must be confused because I thought that the Humphrey’s interview was with an Auschwitz survivor. What has this to do with Iran and the BBC not reporting the negatives that Pounce has found ?

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  5. Phil Ford says:

    So, last night’s Question Time was a risible put-up job by the usual suspects, pretty much as expected. The question of Europe was lamentably ‘debated’ by this collection of sages and all could congratulate themselves on pretty much ‘agreeing Britain should stay in the EU’, no matter what Cameron (or the British people) might think about the matter. Dimbledore even saw fit to whisper to camera that in the panel’s view Cameron shouldn’t even be raising the issue of Europe now as there were ‘much more important things’ for government to be doing.

    Really, BBC? Have you now so little fear of your critics that you feel you can propagandize quite so brazenly, quite so explicitly? This was shameful broadcasting – clearly entirely biased (the audience, as usual, stuffed to the rafters with pig-ignorant socialists bores who took to booing the panel’s Tory MP whenever she spoke) and designed, from the start, to message in one direction only.

    The situation was further compounded when, within moments of This Week starting, the fatuous presenter, Andrew Neil, immediately took to describing UKIP as a ‘bunch of fruit and nut cases’.

    This is where we are with the BBC’s definition of ‘unbiased’ ‘informed’ and ‘educational’ political journalism. It’s a complete disgrace. When will someone – anyone, please – in a position of power take them to task..?

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    • Chilli says:

      You’re right about QT but I think you’ll find Andrew Neil’s comment was intended as a comic/ironic attack on those now arguing for an EU referendum having only recently dismissed those in favour as fruitcakes and nutcases. I have absolutely no problem with Andrew Neil. He’s an excellent jounalist who can be relied on to grill whichever politician is put in front of him – regardless of party. I wish the same could be said any other BBC journalist. If there were more like Andrew Neil this site wouldn’t be needed.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Steady on.

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        • Wild says:

          There was no representative from the Conservative Party on This Week.

          Maybe the BBC forget to invite any Conservative onto the programme?

          Earlier in the day I watched the Daily Politics and the co-presenter of Andrew Neil co-presenter was so biased in favour of high pay for the public sector she did not even bother to pretend to be neutral.

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          • Wild says:

            Earlier in the day I watched the Daily Politics, and the co-presenter of Andrew Neil was so biased in favour of high pay for those who work in the public sector she did not even bother to pretend to be neutral.

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          • RCE says:

            This week’s Any Questions featured Eric Pickles and Charles Moore on the same panel.

            Standby for that to be wheeled out as evidence of neutrality/pro-Tory bias whenever someone points out the preponderance of lefties on every other BBC panel programme.

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            • pacific rising says:

              Did you listen to the News Quiz this week.

              A model of balance, where UKIP were equally targeted for ridicule by each of the panelists, on equally fatuous grounds such as the pronunciation of the name “Farage”, a man who incidentally was characterised as a modern day Uri Geller.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        I agree Andrew Neil does the job of a political interviewer as it should be done. If ALL BBC staff kept their own views out of things and were as impartial I would be less convinced of the need to get rid of the BBC.
        But even if they did emulate Neil I can’t see how it can be healthy for the country to have so much of the news and current affairs broadcasting in the hands of one organisation. It seems self evident that in order to get a balanced view we need to have plenty of variety in where we get our news from. The BBC has far too many channels and ways of providing information to the public. It needs to cut down to size by a) closing it down entirely or b) massively reducing the License fee and so limiting what it can do and leaving space for others to fill.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          The problem is, the bias isn’t confined to news and current affairs – the whole programming schedule is impregnated with a Leftist world view.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      They are afraid that the EU gravy train will come to an end.
      Like the political elite in Norway and Switzerland, that would only leave the United Nations gravy train for failed politicians.

      But the Tories still need to dispose of Cameron if they are to have any hope of winning the next election. If not the Tories, anyone please.

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    • Deborah says:

      I am not sure if I have posted this before but I have a theory about the audience in QT. The number of them dressed in ‘Labour’ red. I am never disappointed (not sure that is the right turn of phrase) that those in red, such as the young lady with the red dress and the very red lipstick last night, come out with the most leftist views. Either they have been told to wear red for Dumbledore to readily identify them and their political views or they are so in love with their political party they feel they have to wear its colour.

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      • chrisH says:

        I know Weymouth pretty well, and had a quick look around the audience..to be honest, given the poverty of the “panel” that was probably best anyway.
        It came from Weymouth College…again I have had some dealings with them way back.
        I did not recognise anybody there from the cast of characters from the town…I heard none of the stuff that real Dorset people at the end of the line would say to anybody who asked in their pubs.
        They sounded nothing like the town I know-my only guess is that all who got in had to either work for the Labour monkeys that Jim Knight (now Barron Knight!) once championed…or else they had to name three Billy Bragg tracks before he gets his Lifetime Achievement Award from Radio2s folkies.
        Soon to be Lord Bragg I expect-and no, I can`t name three Bragg Bellicose quacks of “tracks” either!
        Loads of prisons down in South Dorset-loads of drugs , gangland holiday stuff and-of course-immigration issues.
        Bet the BBC clamped down after Rachel Bulls ” off piste racism” last week in Boston, Lincs!

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    • johnnythefish says:

      How do these socialist extremists – and I call them that because they boo and hiss at the opposition and clap wildly at any leftist point made – manage to infiltrate Question Time and Any Questions every single week?

      And why don’t they get warned by Dimbleby for this behaviour (not the clapping, obviously, irritating though it is) – and get escorted out if they persist?

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  6. AsISeeIt says:

    David Ward (Lib Dem anti-Israel foot-in-mouth Holocaust Memorial Day fool) turns up on BBC. radio

    http://order-order.com/2013/01/25/libdem-mp-in-the-jews-holocaust-meltdown/

    Shelagh Fogarty presents the very lamest segment of political interrogation since the first recorded case of conscientious objection to saying boo to a goose. Her very tone screemed beam me up Scotty, I don’t want to be here.

    Where was John Pienaar? Stuck in the gender-non-specific toilet facility at Salford? Where was Nick Robinson? Banging his bald pate against the wall of an adjoining cubicle and wailing ‘Oh if only it had been a racist UKIPer!’

    Shelagh ends Lib Dem and her own discomfort asap. Now those Olympics; Cor blimey they were grand, weren’t they.

    BBC, the Olympics – please let it go now!

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    • noggin says:

      so … how far have the termites got?
      yep! their all starting to come out of the woodwork.
      “Coallition MP David Wards “use of language” in a statement about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, issued ahead (shakes head) … of Holocaust Memorial Day.”
      bbc

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      • noggin says:

        whoops sent too early :-D
        try again
        so … how far have the termites got?
        yep! their all starting to come out of the woodwork.
        “Coalition MP David Wards “use of language” in a statement about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, issued ahead !(shakes head) … of Holocaust Memorial Day.
        “But Mr Ward told the BBC: “I’ve spoken to the chief whip, and he’s got his views. I don’t feel bad about it in any way. (hmm offensive and arrogant) .. They consider my comments regrettable; I consider their reprimand regrettable.”
        hmm offensive, arrogant … and yes …always there, just below the surface :-D
        The Lib Dem MP said any further disciplinary would be “a sad reflection on the values we all hold so dearly, particularly on free speech”
        really … somehow though, he forgets to add,
        “i m now off to the east london mosque .. to dish it out, to them, about algeria after friday prayers”

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    • uncle bup says:

      Andrew Neil gave Shelagh Fogerty a ‘trial’ once on The Daily Politics. He didn’t trust her with any extemporising, her duty was to read the news. She sat there like a greyhound in the slips awaiting the nod. When the nod came she stood up, read the news and sat down face flushed with excitement, preening herself on a difficult job well done.

      I mean I was reading out loud at the age of four, but there you go.

      I don’t think the brillo’d one invited her back.

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  7. George R says:

    “The death of the West? The bad news…”

    By Thomas Pascoe

    [Opening excerpt]:-

    “For every £1 which Labour added to the British economy between 2001 and 2009, we added £5.40 in debt (source below). I mention that because today’s GDP number of -0.3pc is bad news, not only for the economy itself, but because the wrong moral will be drawn. ”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/thomaspascoe/100022487/the-death-of-the-west-the-bad-news/

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  8. Guest Who says:

    One for any who have, are or are likely to do business with BBC CECUTT…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9827186/BBCs-Womans-Hour-branded-misogynistic-and-patronising.html

    ‘In response, the BBC said that, given the focus of the piece, it “made sense” to talk to the two men in question,’
    In the world of Aunty, if they say it is, it is. No more; no less.
    Not so much an argument, more a dare to try and prove them wrong, when proof is rational and the BBC only deals in beliefs. And what they believe trumps all.
    Unique.

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  9. Doublethinker says:

    The Feedback programme on BBC radio 4 has asked for ‘feedback’ on Radio 4 Writer in Residence Will Self and what we , the public, would like from such a person.
    I would like the position ( assuming that we really do need one of course) to be distributed amongst several people so that we can get a pieces which reflect a wide range of views rather than just those of a single person such as Mr Self.
    I suggest that we all send our thoughts to Feedback on this topic and see if any of our views make onto the airwaves.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The silence from dez and Scott and Albaman and Melvin and the rest of them on the issue of Radio 4 giving up all pretense of impartiality and balance – even the vicious Rod Liddle says so – is deafening.

      I suggest that until they address this issue and address the fact that even Beeboids admit their coverage of re-anointing of The Obamessiah was not journalism, we should ignore everything they say. No point in arguing with them about the low-hanging fruit until they dare to tackle the big issues.

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      • dez says:

        David Preiser,
         
        I’ve noticed a total silence on your part when it comes to the issue of putting live cats in food blenders. I can only assume that since you haven’t addressed this important issue you must approve of it; therefore as a sadistic cat killer there is no point arguing with you about any other subject.

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        • dez says:

          Over thirty minutes later and no response.
          Obviously you’ve run away with you tail between your legs as usual.
           
          Too bad none of the cats in your neighbourhood ever get to do the same.

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          • Guest Who says:

            Good grief, Charlie Brown, lucky the cartoon world some inhabit operates on GMT. Obviously.
            Meanwhile, on the B Staffel demanding prompt atonement by all and sundry, presumably some exemption lawyers were on loan for the weekend.
            Again.

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          • johnnythefish says:

            Oh, Desmond, you are a tease!

            Now fewer than 4 posts awaiting your response on the last Open Thread – only going back to Jan 24th, mind, so take your time.

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          • RCE says:

            I see Dez’s ‘likers’ were up and about in the wee hours. Again.

            Just like Dez…

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          • Andy S. says:

            Dez, you moron! Obviously you’re so thick you don’t realise Dave Preiser lives in a different time zone somewhere on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. He probably doesn’t work nights and use his employer’s computers to make hit and run comments the way you do.

            I suggest you check an Atlas and find out which side of the world the U.S.A. is sited.

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            • Scott M says:

              You may find that Dez knows, but was using a weak rhetorical device that has been thrown in his (and my, and others’) direction on numerous occasions.

              He was doing so by way of a joke. If you have trouble with that concept, perhaps you can find a very patient grown-up to explain it to you.

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              • Guest Who says:

                ‘You may find that Dez knows, but was using a weak rhetorical device’
                On top of ‘just joking’ Sykes-styly, this semantic mangle is so going in the ‘Parlamino BBC’ translation book.
                If the BBC is defined by the logic and competence of those who seek to defend them here, they will need bigger FoI lawyers.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Sad, dez. Keep digging.

             5 likes

          • RCE says:

            You can’t defeat relativism: my fictional scenario is equal to your real-world scenario.

            What’s to say it isn’t?

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          • Scott M says:

            Notable that Preiser uses other people not posting as some sort of validation of his own worldview.

            And yet, when he makes up facts that are demonstrably untrue and is then challenged on them, he disappears.

            Funny how Preiser seems to have the time to be on this site all hours of the day and night – to the extent that other people doing other things with their lives occasionally is presented as some sort of failing – but can’t find time to admit that, yet again, he’s wrong.

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            • RCE says:

              Got any links to all the times Dez has been wrong and not admitted it?

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            • Andy S. says:

              Scottie, you follow Dez around this blog like a fly buzzing around a cow’s arsehole.

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              • Scott M says:

                …says the person who leapt to Preiser’s defence in the last thread, spouting a load of stats and urging me to “Don’t take my word for it, check out the facts on the internet”.

                I did, and you were blatantly wrong. Still, now you’re here you can apologise. Or, like you and Preiser both did in the other thread, you can both go mute in the hope that nobody notices what fools you’ve made of yourselves.

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                • RCE says:

                  Scott is quite right. Errors that lead to factually wrong assertions fundamentally undermine the credibility of the originator.

                  Which is why after the Primark Panorama, the repeated use of fabricated images from Gaza, the unfounded allegations against Lord McAlpine, Jimmy Savile, Jeremy Bowen (take your pick) and 28 Gate, by Scott’s very own measure, the BBC cannot be trusted.

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                • RCE says:

                  Scott is quite right. Errors that lead to factually wrong assertions fundamentally undermine the credibility of the originator.

                  Which is why after: the Primark Panorama; the repeated use of fabricated images from Gaza; the unfounded allegations against Lord McAlpine; Savile; Jeremy Bowen (take your pick) and 28 Gate, by Scott’s very own measure, the BBC cannot be trusted.

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                • Andy S. says:

                  Unlike you, Scott, and Dez, I will stick up my hand when I make a mistake. I didn’t receive a viral e-mail but it seems other websites fell for the misinformation. My mistake was accepting the information on these other sites, although I did cross check the information – didn’t just take it a gospel from just one site.

                  However, that voter fraud is an accepted practice in US elections has been exposed by a Democrat senator’s son, who, I think was employed as their equivalent of a local government councillor. He was caught on covert camera agreeing to help to engineer voter fraud in his local district, when approached by two undercover reporters. He eventually resigned his position. Can’t remember this bloke’s name but I’m sure Dave Preiser could provide it.

                  Unlike you and Dez, I do not behave as part of a double act with other individual posters. I WILL defend those I think are unfairly attacked by you “defenders of the indefensible”.

                  I usually double and triple check my information but this seems to have let me down on this occasion. This erroneous information appears to have caught out many others in the media and blogosphere, otherwise Factcheck.org wouldn’t have needed to discredit the e-mail.

                  Your mate Dez makes many assertions which are erroneous, but of course, being a hit-and-runner, never stays around long enough to accept his errors.

                  In general though, I’m sure there are plenty of websites you can refer to which will confirm your assertions just as I can do with opposing “facts”. It’s
                  one of the problems with the internet. You pays yer money and takes yer choice.

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                  • Scott M says:

                    “I usually double and triple check my information but this seems to have let me down on this occasion.”

                    Yes, you made a similar plea for how your mistake was a one-off before. Funny, the more you claim your inaccuracies are just aberrations, the less I believe you.

                    Still, if your only sources for cross-checking are blogs that repeat the same information without checking, it’s little wonder you’re so regularly confused.

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                    • Andy S. says:

                      Scott, you’re like a dog with a bone that just doesn’t let go. It’s obvious by your condescending, patronising and self-righteous posts you don’t want debate. You just come onto this site to score petty points. So I made a mistake in giving credibility to erroneous claims on the net. Perhaps you could also give us your views on the people pushing the “settled science” of man-made global warming/man-made climate change/man-made climate disruption or whatever the hell the doom-mongers at the Beeb are currently calling it. Don’t forget Al Gore made quite a few now discredited claims in his “famous” cinematic polemic “An Inconvenient Truth”. I bet you didn’t persistently hound him with reminders of his mistakes and what a bad person he is for making them.

                      I was big enough to accept my mistakes. Your post above proves how small minded and petty you are.

                      Or are you using the Alinsky practice of isolating, denigrating and finally ridiculing those who have the temerity to disagree with you and your beloved BBC?

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                  • David Preiser (USA) says:

                    It was the son of Dem Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia.

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            • Guest Who says:

              ‘makes up facts that are demonstrably untrue and’
              Blimey, doing your Heather Small impression again?
              And while linking to a URL is one up from the usual, actual factual paucity, doing so to an open thread is hilariously vague, if typical.
              Making those three paras from the winner of today’s ‘Hugh Sykes Just Joking’ award for backfoot defending not only pointless but useless..
              There’s a metaphor there somewhere.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Scott, if you can’t address the issues of Will Self becoming more or less the intellectual leader of Radio 4 (which even Rod Liddle says is proof of a lack of balance), and that even a BBC employee admits that their coverage of the Inauguration was not proper journalism, just say so.

              By all means continue to bite ankles instead, but don’t expect me to take notice.

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              • Scott M says:

                What a surprise. Honesty is for other people. When called out on your lies and you realise that you can’t just ignore your way out, you get all defensive, which then manifests itself as an even more pompous and self-righteous tone than usual.

                Do you actually care that you make dishonest statements, or is your desire to be seen as important within Biased BBC’s limited gene pool more important than telling the truth?

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              • wallygreeninker says:

                Stop feeding the goblin – once this one gets a bite he never stops -he can’t just state his case and leave the reader to weigh things up for themselves. I have no intention of even reading his retort – let alone replying to it.

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                • David Preiser (USA) says:

                  In this case, Scott deserves a response. The fact that he can’t address the big issues says more about his reasons for coming here than it does us.

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                • RCE says:

                  For some reason he’s not replying to my posts.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              I must apologize to you, Scott, because I missed your response to me on that thread. So, let me explain now. I misspoke, and should have said “less than the first time”, or something like that. I realize this slip-up is unacceptable, and am very flattered that you hold me to a higher standard than you do the BBC. So let’s clear the matter up once and for all. It’s not the number of votes each received in comparison to the other, but in comparison to themselves:

              In 2004, Bush became the first sitting president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1936 to win reelection while adding to majorities in both the House and the Senate.

              This was why his mandate was perceived as being so strong leading some to think that this might have been a realigning election whereby the Party that achieved such an historical feat would rule the country for years to come.

              By contrast, Obama’s Party though holding the Senate failed in its attempt to take control of the House of Representatives in 2012.

              Beyond this, Bush got 11.5 million more popular votes and 15 more electoral votes in 2004 than he received in 2000.

              Obama received 7.5 million fewer popular votes and 32 fewer electoral votes in 2012 than he received in 2008.

              Add it all up and 2004 was a far better election result for Bush than 2000 while 2012 was a far worse result for Obama than 2008.

              Let me repeat, Scott: You may have gotten your own figures correct, but you got the concept wrong. I’ll accept that I screwed up the wording which led you to draw your conclusion. I’m pretty sure I stated this more clearly elsewhere. In fact, here’s me getting it right in a post complaining about Mardell declaring just such a mandate, which I assume you never read. But that doesn’t make up for my slip-up here. I hope it’s clear enough to everyone now, though.

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              • Scott M says:

                “You may have gotten your own figures correct, but you got the concept wrong.”

                So there we have it: if David Preiser fucks up, it’s everybody else’s fault for believing what he comes out with.

                All the more reason for just not trusting a word the damned fool says.

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                • David Preiser (USA) says:

                  Except, Scott, I showed where I got it right elsewhere. You can’t admit that, I know. My track record is still better than yours. I admit an error, unlike you, and you’re still not satisfied. Maybe I should get a job with the BBC so I can do no wrong in your eyes.

                  If you want to actually disqualify me entirely, you’ll have to prove a majority of my statements to be demonstrably false. Go on, there’s plenty to choose from. Here’s a real challenge for you: prove more than a third of my next 50 posts or comments false and I’ll resign.

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                  • Scott M says:

                    If I stuck around your sanctimony that long, I’d end up as fruitloopy as Guest Who. I’d much rather have a life, thanks.

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                    • David Preiser (USA) says:

                      So, Scott, Will Self?

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                    • Guest Who says:

                      One’s elevation to American cereal killer status is noted. And I gain another expression from my most assuredly non-stalkers’ lexicon of playing the argument above all.
                      And this time introduced while not even part of this ‘discussion’ …until now… at that.
                      So one can appreciate the life chosen has in no way taken its toll in this case.
                      Spending most of one’s waking moments on a niche site comprising mainly those with which one has no shared values or empathy, getting pwned, is indeed an interesting social ambition, if a unique one.
                      History has shown the sense of competing on multiple fronts; only those with none continue not to learn from this.
                      Cheerio:)

                      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fruit%20loop

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                    • Andy S. says:

                      Scott, I know we shouldn’t get personal on this site but you take the biscuit.

                      You are a smug, sanctimonious arsehole!

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                  • johnnythefish says:

                    Scott has invested a lot of effort in this – just as he does with those other rare occasions when he sees a chance to attack. We must assume he (and Dez, of course) read all the posts on here otherwise how would they spot these rare opportunities?

                    The conclusion, therefore, is he (and Dez) are unable to defend the BBC against the vast majority of the accusations of bias on this website, not least big stuff like 28gate.

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  10. pounce says:

    The bBC and the difference in reporting Snowball attacks on people of a different colour and..religion?
    Girls ‘racially abused’ in Winson Green
    Police say they are treating verbal abuse targeted at two young Birmingham girls as a racially-aggravated crime. Andrea Buchanan, nine, said she was with some friends when they were racially abused by up to seven boys near her home in Winson Green. She said they had refused to get involved in a snowball fight.
    Ashford snowball race attack victim Ramanjit Sohi ‘kicked like a ball’
    A man who was attacked and racially abused by a group of teenagers who were throwing snowballs at him has said he is shocked that no-one came to his aid.

    Snow ‘attack’ Palestinians held
    Nine Palestinians from East Jerusalem have been arrested after two Jews were abused and pelted with snowballs, footage of which drew outrage online.

    Anybody else find it strange that the only one which isn’t deemd racist by the bBC is actually the most shocking one of all. Yup according to the bBC. Only White people can be racist and only brown skinned people victims.

    The bBC, the traitor within our midst

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  11. Louis Robinson says:

    A few weeks ago, one of the regulars here bemoaned the fact of the very existence of this blog. He implied it was all a waste of time. After a period of reflection, I will quote Townhall columnist Laura Hollis, who penned a great piece about the last US Presidential election in which she speaks to the subject of the media. (I will give you a link at the end though most of it does not concern us here).

    One of the points is headlined: “The Corrupt Media is the enemy”. This is a strong statement and she backs it up with this:

    “I have been watching the media try to throw elections since at least the early 1990s. In 2008 and again this year, we saw the media cravenly cover up for the incompetence and deceit of this President, while demonizing a good, honorable and decent man with lies and smears. This is on top of the daily barrage of insults that conservatives (and by that I mean the electorate, not the politicians) must endure at the hands of this arrogant bunch of elitist snobs. Bias is one thing. What we observed with Benghazi was professional malpractice and fraud. They need to go. Republicans, Libertarians and other conservatives need to be prepared to play hardball with the Pravda press from here on out. And while we are at it, to defend those journalists of whatever political stripe (Jake Tapper, Sharyl Atkisson, Eli Lake) who actually do their jobs. As well as FoxNews and talk radio. Because you can fully expect a re-elected Obama to try to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine in term 2.”

    The fairness doctrine, by the way, is the muzzling of opponents like the people on US conservative talk radio. As the UK has nothing approaching talk radio, though many have tried, we can skip that part of the argument.

    However, the accusation of “professional malpractice and fraud” is well taken as is her solution: “Republicans, Libertarians and other conservatives need to be prepared to play hardball with the Pravda press from here on out.”

    I look forward to how “playing hardball” will be exercised in practice.

    So in response to (?) who posted here: the Pravda press is the subject of this blog. Do not think this website is irrelevant. Please continue gathering evidence of malpractice and fraud in the areas of “global warming”, left wing bias and Islamic propaganda.

    By the way, thank you, David Vance and co.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/laurahollis/2012/11/08/postmortem

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  12. hothandsdave says:

    You could be forgiven for wondering why the BBC has practically ignored the trial of a group of British soldiers who committed the most serious crimes.

    have a look at this and see if you can work out why

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21192064

    now think about how they’re planning to handle the kenyan mau-mau torture claims when they get into courts?

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  13. hothandsdave says:

    more pro IRA propaganda and re-written history – spot the MO

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21181174

    third party quotation use the twist and editorialise “the ira were no worse than the anc – geddit?”

    total focus on the murdering bitch, no grief fest for the victims’ families and of course no space for comment so that we can cheer and hope that she did it herself

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  14. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Have to give credit to the Today producers this morning for allowing time to acknowledge the Holocaust and dare to suggest that it’s still worth remembering. BBC One produced a documentary about one survivor’s story, and this was essentially a promo spot for it. The BBC is so deathly afraid of being accused of being pro-Israel and controlled by the Jews that they surely must have had a difficult decision to do this.

    They’ll surely be inundated with the usual complaints, and somebody is going to have to spend time responding to them. It’s nice to see that the BBC’s visceral hatred of Israel doesn’t always extend to offering succor to anti-Semitism. It seems there are still a few Beeboids with a moral compass left after all.

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    • Joshaw says:

      Agree. Unfortunately, I’ve become very cynical about the BBC’s motives, perhaps unfairly so, but I can’t help wondering if the Holocaust is only being used as a stick to beat the far right with (even though one could argue that the Nazis were left wing).

      I can’t even look forward to BBC drama any longer because I find myself waiting for the irritating, right-on message. It’s almost always there, somewhere.

      Sick of it.

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      • wallygreeninker says:

        I’m not sure if it’s a second attempt after the failure of their revamped ‘Upstairs, downstairs’ to compete with ‘Downton Abbey’ but, coming up, there’s a new series set in the early thirties about a black American jazz band playing in swish west end hotels and the relationship of the players with the rich customers. Written by Stephen Poliakoff and called ‘Dancing on the edge’ I heard racism, anti-Semitism and fascism mentioned in a preview but I’m sure it won’t be loaded with all sorts of political messages.

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    • deegee says:

      The BBC has no problem with Jewish victims of Nazism (the last good war?) It’s Jews who fight for themselves and win that it can’t stomach.

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  15. Anders Thomasson says:

    Another Friday, another episode of Mastermind, another General Knowledge question about Islam. Chip, chip, chip…

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    • uncle bup says:

      … and the usual horde of questions about the BBC itself – important cultural icon, nation’s auntie, envy of the world etc.

      Celebrity Mastermind was nothing but an insult.

      If you knew what type of animal consists of bactrian and dromedary, what the multiculoured arc of lights you see in the sky after rain is, what that joint on your arm between the wrist and the shoulder is called, and the statue of which famous sailor appears atop a column in Trafalgar Square is… well there were four points right there.

      I Kid you not.

      BBC how low can you go.

         25 likes

      • Barry Jalfrezi says:

        The standard of questions has to be lowered for all of the ‘celebrity’ Mastermind’ editions. A bright 11 year old could answer most of the general knowledge questions that the celebrities struggle with.

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          This year I only recognised one or two of the celebrities per episode. The celebrities get one crystal bowl an episode while the peasants get one for every series. They will also probably selectively dumb down the questions for the “politically correct token celebrity person” per episode, next year.

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  16. Pounce says:

    bBC against Wind Power?
    Ireland to build ‘giant’ wind turbines to power UK homes
    UK and Irish ministers will today sign an agreement that could see some of the world’s largest wind turbines built across the Irish midlands. Stretching more than 600 feet (180 metres) in the air, the towers are set to generate energy for millions of UK homes from 2017. The companies involved say the Irish power is a cheaper form of renewable than UK offshore wind.

    So the bBC reports about power companies are going to plant Wind Towers in Southern Ireland in which to supply the British. Ah but hang on what is stronger than Green credentials at the bBC, why hating the people who fund their lavish ways which is why the bBC comes out with the following:
    “But environmentalists have described the scheme as “crazy”. They say it risks damaging Ireland’s landscape.”
    And
    “But opponents say that local people have not been consulted and few actually realise just what an impact the turbines will have on the landscape. “People don’t actually understand the scale of them,” said Andrew Duncan, an auctioneer and spokesman for the Lakelands Wind Information group, who are opposed to the plan.”Putting up the largest turbines in the world without consultation – I think it is ludicrous, to be honest.”
    And
    “Mr Duncan says that he believes that political opposition to wind energy in the UK is the real reason behind the plan.It seems to be an Irish solution to a British problem – politically they don’t want turbines on the British countryside, they are under a lot of pressure from the general public over there and it seems they want to impose these wind farms on the Irish general public instead “
    And
    “Richard Tol, professor of economics at University of Sussex, said he felt that the whole scheme was “crazy” and would not work in the long term “

    So, the bBC which is so pro wind power just couldn’t help but litter the above article with reasons why Wind Turbines shouldn’t be put up in Ireland in which to light up their neighbour to the East. (Ever seen so many excuses when the towers are being built over here?) Which is why they end with this classic:
    “From an Irish perspective this is not selling the family silver; this is giving it away. There is no money staying in Ireland that I can see. But from the British perspective it is a good deal,” he said.”

    The bBC, the traitors in our Midst.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Yes, I saw the introduction to that piece which described it as provision of ” cheap green energy”
      What bullshit, cheap? FFS!

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  17. AsISeeIt says:

    Newsnight goes from bad to worse. The only new news is no news as lugubrious northerner Uncle Paul Mason refuses to do any U-turn on his economic policy – he sticks stubbornly with borrow, borrow, borrow. As usual economics is by no means his forte – no his real interest is politics. Guess which.

    Emily Maitless is a really peculiar colour, isn’t she. Newsnight goes out late at night and she looks as though she was embalmed this afternoon.

    She attacks the Coalition Treasury Minister with relish as if she were an actual vampire.

    Happy to give a platform to that new TUC girl-boss, however. Here future Labour Baroness, you take a bite out of the Tory git, I have to return to the BBC Newsnight crypt for a kip.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The Beeboids have all seized on the latest GDP figures to push the Narrative that “austerity” hasn’t worked. Supposedly the Tory policy was going to be reassessed this year, and the BBC is naturally at the vanguard. Curiously, the same angle of attack appears in every single BBC report/segment/show, across the spectrum of BBC broadcasting. No memo handed down, no editorial directive from on high necessary, because they all think the same way anyway.

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      • RCE says:

        And no comparison with Hollande’s alternative strategy in France… How’s that going, again?

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  18. Pounce says:

    So how many people have heard this story from the bBC:

    http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.co.uk/

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  19. Pounce says:

    How the Tory cuts hating bBC reports this story of a council cutting costs:
    Salford City Council plans staff pay cuts but pay freeze for bosses
    “Hundreds of staff at Salford City Council will lose up to £2,100 a year under a proposed pay review – but bosses will have their pay frozen. Unison has called the move – which is linked to the council pledging to give staff the living wage – “appalling”. More than 1,000 lower paid staff will get a pay rise to £7.45 an hour but 629 will see their salary reduced. “

    So the bBC reports on a council which while cutting money to the plebs, has simply frozen pay for the senior management. For some strange reason the bBC doesn’t mention which party is in power in Salford, however allow Pounce to inform the great unwashed just who rules the roost up North:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Salford#Council

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  20. stuart says:

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Upper-Egypt,-thousands-of-Islamic-extremists-attack-a-Christian-village-26908.html…..this is what happens when the muslim brotherhood gets power in a once secular country and cheered on by david cameron and the bbc.

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  21. John Anderson says:

    At the end of a gushing puff piece about Obama and Hillary Clinton praising each other on the US “60 Minutes” TV programme, the BBC World Service reporter said “She is credited with having rehabilitated Americas’s reputation around the world after the Bush years”.

    Bias – what bias ?

    How about – Clinton under whose watch the State Department failed to provide proper security to its ambassador in Libya,

    Or Clinton who tries to deny that she blamed the Benghazi deaths on an obscure video – when she said exactly that to bereaved parents receiving their son back from Libya in a coffin.

    Or Clinton who completely misjudged the Arab Spring

    Or Clinton who has helped allow Iran make 4 more years progress towards nuclear weapons.

    The appeasing John Kerry can hardly be any worse than hissy-fit Clinton.

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    • RCE says:

      The get-out of that is the passive “is credited”.

      It doesn’t say by whom, so the BBC can claim they are reporting the truth, as someone, somewhere (Barack Obama for one) will have indeed credited her as such, and it is not the BBC that is doing so.

      Abracadabra. Get out of bias free.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Clinton is credited? I thought having The Obamessiah as President is what makes everyone love us. The BBC needs to get their story straight.

      Actually, what the dopey Beeboid means here is that Hillary Clinton’s term as Secretary of State gets the big thumbs up from Russia and China and Iran and Al Qaeda. She certainly has changed our reputation with them. Not in a good way, of course, but that’s what the BBC wants: a weakened US. No wonder they love her and Him so much.

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      • RCE says:

        Yup. That’s it right there.

        And the Norks are clearly unpeturbed by 4 years of Obama, Biden, Hagel, and Jean Francois* Kerry.

        * Sorry; can’t resist it!

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Oh, yeah, I forgot about L’il Kim Jr. He and the Muslim Brotherhood love them some of that awesome US foreign policy wisdom. The US has definitely put them in a better mood.

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  22. Reed says:

    Rod Liddle – still grumpy…

    What happened was this. Professor Beard was invited to take part on the BBC’s Question Time programme, where she made what can be politely described as an utter fool of herself. I run a small, light-hearted competition every year on my blog for people to vote for the most stupid woman to have appeared on Question Time in the past 12 months. It is but the third week of January and Mary is already a shoo-in, I fear, unless they ask Lynne Featherstone — the Manchester United, nay the Barcelona, of this particular award — back on to the show.

    Anyway, having performed with stumbling vapidity in her earlier answers, she turned to the question of immigration and the influx of Bulgarians and Romanians we are all looking forward to welcoming to our shores next January. Mary managed to appear smug, patrician and fabulously ill-informed in her answer, which was to the effect that a study in Lincolnshire had suggested that immigration had caused nary a problem at all but had added immeasurably to the rich diversity of the area — and so, she concluded, there would be no problems at all from this next wave.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/8830261/its-not-misogyny-professor-beard-its-you/

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    • Guest Who says:

      Mr. Liddle is a variable talent, and variable commentariat eminence gris on occasion, but in his case he has weighed Prof Beard on what is, and found her wanting.
      He has also correctly called her and her willing followers out on a rush to martyrdom either deluded or deliberate.
      The new notion of trying to distract from the actual point (of credibility self-explosion) by pointing out minority abuses in attempted conflation with majority recognition of an utter berk when they hear one.
      Sadly, if typically, as a near-employer the BBC and its twitterati mobilised forces is pursuing this rather silly route of various isms rather than grasping, as have most people, that it’s just her… And them.

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      • Joshaw says:

        “Mr. Liddle is a variable talent”

        Very good description. I read his columns because he’s prepared stick his neck out from time to time. Wouldn’t want him as a neighbour though.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          He’s an ex-editor of Today and very critical of the BBC’s lack of balance, so any ally in that very important respect.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I wonder how Liddle feels about being forced out of the BBC for revealing a personal political opinion in a newspaper column while currently dozens upon dozens of Beeboids reveal personal political opinions nearly every day on Twitter.

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  23. graphene fedora says:

    With regard to a possible In/Out EU referendum:
    ‘The vast apparatus of the EU will be put into high activity with its fellow travellers in the BBC stretching the idea of unbiased reporting to breaking point.’

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2570/keeping_our_press_out_of_the_eu_s_hands

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    • George R says:

      E.U-compliant BBC-NUJ seems to be politically quiescent on E.U plans to control media.

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  24. Guest Who says:

    Sky just ‘reported’ from Davos that only the UK is in the dumps. I wonder if the BBC shares that view? It may be the case, but then again only the UK seems to have a media class who’d stuff the country over just to get their ideological BFFs back in.
    And beyond economic performance alone, one wonders if these market rate talents are factoring in a few other aspects of life here that still seem no different to the Labour glory years, from bloated, unaccountable public sector with no hint of staffing or pension reality kicking in, to endless further drains on resources pouring in.
    All expected to be funded by the presumed bottomless pit that is the UK income-generating taxpayer, or their great grand kids.

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  25. Jeff Waters says:

    The BBC made a big deal of yesterday’s growth figures, without apparently stopping to consider whether GDP actually means much.

    When governments splash the cash about, GDP is higher. For example, if the government decides to increase legal funding for asylum seekers, that will do naff all for the British economy, but will increase the GDP figure.

    A GDP decrease can be a sign that the government is starting to take measures needed to bring down the national debt, but you won’t hear that from the BBC!

    Jeff

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  26. AsISeeIt says:

    When Kirsty turned frosty.

    The Review Show is Newsnight’s disowned child. Once an add-on to the sinking newsy flagship Kirsty and her pundits of the Caribbean have now been floated off in a separate arty-farty liberal makework scheme.

    Paul Morley and your ilk, need a cash injection? Pop along and share a sofa with Ms Wark and bang on from a lefty point of view about something or other. Better still our dear BBC guest if you happen to be a wimmin quango arts Czarina and can rabbit about the arts wot you saw and bemoan the sad lack of funding across the three-sided coffee table to the rat-faced Scots Labour grandee.

    (I gleaned one literary insight. I think I now know what our Bard Will had in mind when he wrote that part in the Scottish play for Kirsty and her two siblings).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01q9zb5/The_Review_Show_25_01_2013/

    So the BBC seem to be reclaiming George Orwell. (OTI!) (Oh The Irony).

    Rather odd discussions followed on The Review Show. The biggest modern resonance from 1984 appeared to be the
    phrase ‘Blue Sky Thinking’. What, nothing about CCTV, BBC, thought crimes, etc, etc…..?

    Radio 4 did a new version of Animal Farm.

    The BBC approved sofa crew reckon that now the Soviet Union has passed into…well, the past…then Animal Farm is a bit of an out of date kids show.

    Novelist Lionel Shriver (she’s a female) (God bless her) right out of the blue (perhaps explaining the danger of that Blue Sky Thinking the BBC seem to fear) suddenly makes a non-BBC comment.

    ‘It reminds me of what’s happening now in Egypt’.

    Kirsty went frosty.

    Quickly she says ‘…or North Korea?’

    I guess our pet rat-face has no fear of being grabbed off the beach at Leith and bundled aboard one of Kim’s subs as punishment for crimes against the Dear Leader.

    A casual fart in the direction of Mecca however is considered something of a major gaff at Beeb homecentral.

    So it’s goodnight from me and all hail Rabbie Burns and Andy Murray (I kid you not).

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    • RCE says:

      I heard a trailer for a reading of Animal Farm on R4. The book was introduced as a novel ‘about the corrupting influence of power’ (from memory).

      Now it’s a while since I read it, but I seem to recall it was more a critique of socialism than anything else; indeed, I had a discussion with my (socialist) English teacher about it.

      Funny how the BBC didn’t pick up on that.

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      • wallygreeninker says:

        It’s more a critique of Soviet communism – Orwell had had direct experience Stalinist communists in Spain. He was, however, always a democratic socialist.

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          Orwell was more of a Tory-anarchist than a Soviet Socialist or National Socialist.

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          • chrisH says:

            And the left-liberal elite at the time refused to have the book published…for fear of offending Uncle Joe Stalin, and not getting those invitations to Bloomsbury, Fitzrovia, The Review Show….I jest with one of the above, but you`ll know that plenty BBC lefty types would have hated Orwells book.
            Indeed, how often have the BBC done this Orwell masterpiece…sure as hell cBBC won`t have it anytime soon.
            Imagine…if kids were to think that history gets airbrushed and made into Bitesizes, so the past is denied and bent to suit the whims of the likes of Blair or Patten…eek!

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  27. Jeff Waters says:

    BBC’s Woman’s Hour branded ‘misogynistic’ and ‘patronising’ – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9827186/BBCs-Womans-Hour-branded-misogynistic-and-patronising.html

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  28. Guest Who says:

    Got an email from the BBC overnight that is not worthy of a complaint, but highlights just how dire their subbing now is on their primary outlets, namely emails, texts and twitter:
    Subject: Death sentences for Egypt fans
    Given the propensity to kick off on anything out there, about as sloppy as it gets.

    Speaking of twitter, I went to see how they had covered it there, and got this..
    ‘@bbcbreakingnews’s tweets are protected.
    Only confirmed followers have access to @bbcbreakingnews’s Tweets and complete profile. Click the “Follow” button to send a follow request.’

    I have never in my life seen such a thing before.
    Ever.
    What do they need it? To protect their 5 tweets to no followers.
    And can I presume that I as the ‘wrong kind of licence fee payer on the line’ can be rejected, or banned if deemed contrary to the hive mind?
    Or is it a spoof account?
    If so, how is this possible given the nature of the branding claim.

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  29. George R says:

    INBBC seems to have missed reporting this Islamic technology in the Islamic Republic of Iran:-

    “Iran unveils machine for amputating thieves’ fingers”

    http://observers.france24.com/content/20130125-iran-machine-amputating-thieves-finger

       5 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      You have to love the ‘unveil’ bit or, as it is today, ‘the BBC had learned..’
      Where’s Tomorrow’s World when you need it?
      Maybe an 8.50am slot on the Breakfast sofa, tops.
      ‘So, Salim, when did you first realise there was a growing market for industrial mutilation on a scale unknown since David Ward learned his History from Ceebeebies?

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      • RCE says:

        A Muslim ‘Tomorrow’s World’ would be great sketch material for the sort of edgy, irreverant comedy show that the BBC sees as a core element of its output.

        If Franky Boyle, Jeremy Hardy, Jo Brand et al are reading, please feel free to take this idea and develop it; I really won’t mind, as long as you let me know when it will be broadcast.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          The Monty Python lot would have had a field day with it. Ah, well (sigh), that was a different time……

             4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Inventive bunch these Iranians, though to be honest take the guard off my DeWalt chop saw and I can’t see too much difference.

         5 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Well guest, the point is, your DeWalt chopsaw would pass for cutting edge technology ( no pun intended…..honest) in that shit hole of a country of theirs.

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    • George R says:

      “BBC: Iran Using Fake Blogs In Smear Campaign Targeting Journalists”

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/bbc-persian-smear-campaign_n_2553597.html?utm_hp_ref=media&ir=Media

      Despite all that, INBBC is reluctant to expose the activities of Islamic Republic of Iran.

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  30. George R says:

    Britain’s security?

    Are Salmond and Beeboids interested in this?:-

    “Spying a flaw in the Scots going it alone”

    By QUENTIN LETTS.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2268466/Spying-flaw-Scots-going-alone.html

       3 likes

    • Albaman says:

      Interesting first paragraph: “Scottish independence could make it easier for Russian submarines to loiter off the north British coast, eavesdropping on our security services, says a Whitehall expert.”

      Nothing to do with the present government getting rid of the Nimrod’s that carried out the submarine surveillance role in the North Atlantic then?

         9 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        If Scotland gains independence, the Shetland islanders want a referendum to become a UK Crown dependency with equal status to that of the Isle of Mann. So that problem could be solved.

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        • George R says:

          Salmond’s compliant political attitude towards Gadaffi’s Libya over Lockerbie massacre did not impress on issue of security either.

             7 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Bring the subs to wales man! Och aye! Tha noo!

           6 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Hadda lurve the way that alex salmond (sp?) re the recent hostage crisis in algeria kept referring to whether *scottish* hostages were safe.

      The little shit couldn’t keep the politics out of it even as the bombs were hitting the convoy of hostages.

      And the poor sweaties think this vile ****, selling wind, and the public sector are their future.

      God help them, because reality certainly won’t.

         8 likes

      • Albaman says:

        What Alex Salmond actually said and what you allege appear to be two different things. Speaking in the Scottish parliament he said:
        “The full extent of the Algerian hostage crisis is still not known but this is clearly a tragic situation and our thoughts at this difficult time are with the families of all those who have been caught up in events in Algeria. We extend our sympathies to the families and friends of those innocent people affected from many countries by this disgraceful terrorist incident.

        “We are not confirming numbers or other details at this stage as the situation continues to be fluid and is not yet resolved. However, our police service in Scotland have confirmed that a number of people identified as resident in Scotland, who had been held captive in the In Amenas facility, and of whom I spoke yesterday in parliament, have now been confirmed as safe and well.

        “The Scottish police forces involved have all done an excellent job in difficult circumstances in identifying those individuals who live in Scotland and contacting their families. In each case police officers continue to offer every support to the families at this worrying and uncertain time.

        “We continue to work closely with the UK Government to monitor the situation and stand ready to offer any assistance we possibly can. Our thoughts remain with all of those who are affected by this tragedy.”

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      • johnnythefish says:

        A term you’ll never hear on the BBC: ‘Little Scotlander’.

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  31. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    I enjoyed two or three minutes of the Today programme this morning, and it’s not often you hear that said on this site. The prime 8.10 slot, normally lasting 10 minutes and given to the most important news of the day, had John Humphrys on the subject of the man who last night tried to rob a Plymouth betting shop, wearing a gas-mask and carrying a pistol, but was overpowered by customers and subsequently died. (1:10 onwards at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01q7fjj)
    Humphrys interviewed the QC who acted as the defence counsel for Tony Martin, imprisoned for killing a burglar in 1999, who said “a man walks into a betting shop, he gambles and loses; there’s no story”. Humphrys tries to pursue it and turn it into a ‘human rights for criminals’ case, but the lawyer is having nothing of it, and the item ends after just 3 minutes.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I loved the notion of ‘restraint’ in this context.
      Mind you, looking at some of the locals haunting our local bookie simply sitting on the guy would be game over.
      And that is just the lasses who’ve left their brood outside in frost-hoared prams to invest the weekly benefits in the warm.
      But great to see the notion of ‘reasonable force’, which can only appeal to a news moron seeking to stir a rating, get such short shrift and die on his withered, puckered lips by being stopped dead with pure fact and logic.

         6 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Poor Humph blunted his nose as he chased the parked car.
      Daft old bugger tried a few times to turn up a truffle for his liberal overlords, but the eminently sensible lawyer told us all that the Plymouth lads had no case to answer-nor could there be a possibility of one.
      Oh dear. Hopefully a few Guardian readers choked on their lattes.
      Following on from Monty getting slapped across the chops as she managed to interview an Army woman who did NOT agree with women fighting on the front line…been a bad week for the interns.
      Even Savile didn`t make himself look a fool every programme, unlike the Today blowfish we`re witnessing these days.
      Hopeless farces on a daily basis.

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  32. Guest Who says:

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/suitcase.html?

    ‘as the Trust’s team of Crusted Governance Assistants (Fourth Dan and Above Only) scratch their heads over how much they dare cut out.’
    Power. Holding to account. Or not.
    And it… and she… are back…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/helen-boaden-director-of-bbc-news-at-the-lse

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/dan-hind/bbc-investigates

    Doubtless along with a small army of FoI lawyers.
    Questions won’t be answered.

       3 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Please, get her name right.

      It’s not Helen Boaden.

      It’s Helen ‘In The Private Sector Aka The Real World I Would Have Been Sacked For Gross Incompetence But Hey Ho It’s Back To Work At The BBC The World’s Most Trusted News Organisation’ Boaden

         15 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Or “Hugs”, for short.

           8 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Guest Who regrets the error.
        The guilty party has been located and sent for retraining on double their previous salary.
        Lessons have indeed been learned.

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  33. wallygreeninker says:

    Bellamy tells how the Beeb turned him from hero to zero – but temperatures haven’t gone up for 16 years

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266188/David-Bellamy-The-BBC-froze-I-dont-believe-global-warming.html

       7 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      I do not think that Bellamy is entirely correct in saying its poppycock because calibrating carbon dioxide warming for a 0.1 millibar pressure increase has produced a figure far too small to be detected., so in a way I would agree that it was poppycock.

      Also considering that all the evidence is pointing to Cloud Albedo changes as the cause of Climate Change.

      Anyway, Bellamy has been joined by other environmentalists.
      James Lovelock of the proven Gia Theory.
      Patrick Moore, founder of Greenpeace, who said that AGW was bunkum.

      Sir Patrick Moore agreed with that sentiment, and would not deny that he said bunkum when Mensa members asked him.

         8 likes

      • Mark says:

        Sir Patrick Moore (astronomer, RIP) is not the same person as Patrick Moore of Greenpeace.

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    • dez says:

      Good grief, not again.

      David Bellamy is sadly deluded. His last BBC tv series was way back in 1981 and since then he hasn’t been snapped up by any tv company despite only coming out against global warming some 23 years later in 2004.

      But still he’s managed to earn a few extra pounds from the Daily Mail to ease his retirement.

      Who’s next?

      Johnny Ball?

      One of the Chuckle Brothers?

         8 likes

      • AsISeeIt says:

        And now as medium wave listeners leave us for the shipping forcast, long wave goes over to St John’s Wood where we see Dez coming out to bat for the home side in the global climate test match. So, Blowers, my dear old thing, tell us….these snowy conditions were not the predicted weather when this match was arranged for January 2013. Should we at last consider doing away with white flannels in the Test Match series?

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Oh, Dez, you bullying brute! David Bellamy and Johnny Ball are easy targets for you warmists (their fascistic treatment of Ball in particular was unforgiveable if not criminal) so leave off and get with the real debate.

        So, for the zillionth time….managed to come up with a defence of your lying BBC yet on their secret meeting with climate activists?

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  34. Richard Pinder says:

    “Thinking Allowed” Radio 4 at 00.15hrs on Monday. Climate Change Denial: Laurie Taylor explores the reasons behind the widespread refusal to accept our ecological crisis.

    I have listened to Laurie Taylor before, he seemed a reasonable person to me, but this issue could be another piece of science censored dogmatic madness, adding Laurie Taylor to the list for future investigations into the BBC.

    For any moronic beeboids reading this:

    (1) No scientists and almost all knowledgeable none-scientist “Enemies of the BBC” deny that the Climate Changes.
    (2) Most “Enemies of the BBC” have the science as the reason. (Look on Google Scholar) as Climate Change is not a religion with believers and sceptics.
    (3) Most “Enemies of the BBC” do not think that the ecological crisis if there is one, has anything to do with an increase in global temperature of 0.76 Kelvin.

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    • chrisH says:

      No he`s not, in my opinion.
      The worst kind of sociology offcut, without the brains to have ever been a real lecturer…but aspires instead to be Mr Benn in corduroys and Maos little red book under his arm.
      Have yet to hear this empty polo neck do any show where he didn`t sing from any back issue of New Society circa 1968…anti-Tory, anti anything but the Gramsci project.
      How the heck Thatcher managed not to clear the likes of Laurie and his sons from any public forum for being effete lefties who can only talk a good fight with a faux-Scouse accent, is beyond me.
      Left Bank of the Mersey…file under Libby Purvis for “endless sinecure for no discernible reason”.
      Just a cravat for hire for any wannabe child of the revolution….pillbox!

         11 likes

      • John Anderson says:

        chrisH – I totally agree, Taylor is ALWAYS a leftie but with a smooth manner. Typical sociology academic.

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      • dez says:

        Or to summarise your usual blabbering blancmange; Laurie Taylor is a leftie so anything he might say is wrong, therefore I know anything he might say is wrong because he’s a leftie.
         
        A=B therefore B=A
         
        Oustanding. Go on, trot out another few philosophical pearls of wisdom!

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        • AsISeeIt says:

          So what are you saying Dez? Just because Laurence John ‘Laurie’ (calm down calm down) Taylor dresses to the left politically, you think he must surely have a proper grip on the climate science?

          ‘Taylor is sometimes thought to be the model for Howard Kirk in Malcolm Bradbury’s novel The History Man although Bradbury and Taylor had not met at the time the book was written. Taylor was a member of the Trotskyist International Socialists’

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          • johnnythefish says:

            Dez hits, runs, hides behind his garden hedge breathlessly congratulating himself on another Biased BBC-destroying argument.

            Takes a few hours or even days getting his breath back and steeling himself for the next assault.

            Can’t wait (yawn).

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        • Joshaw says:

          “Laurie Taylor is a leftie so anything he might say is wrong”

          As a rule of thumb, that generally works for me.

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        • RCE says:

          Well, in my book being a lefty is indeed commensurate with being incredibly thick, as leftist policies have been proven to fail in every single time and place they’ve ever been tried (notable instances being Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Castro’s Cuba and Juche North Korea).

          So I’d say ‘yes’, he’s highly likely to be wrong because he’s a lefty.

          Just like you, Dez.

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          • chrisH says:

            Pity poor Dez…have a heart you carps with brains!
            It is always easier to get all your opinions flat-packed, shrink-wrapped and then get them off the shelf whenever somebody questions the sources or the instructions given as standard issue to the BBC, the Guardian…Polly, Owen…Laurie…and then…eventually in the form of owl pellets passed a la Partridge…down to the likes of poor Dez in his cage of plenty.
            Poor, poor Dez…put another Specials record on, hug your Billy Bragg ex-Guardsman uniform…and let`s get the revolution going…
            Blancmange eh Dez?…not sure they weren`t a little past the Strummer Era for you…but if it works for you, get down from the ceiling and let`s get busy.
            Poor Dez-has his transport come yet?
            Magic carpet to Baghdad?…Utopia?…not today Dez…not today!

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            • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

              And to add to his misery, Dez is the only one who has to endure the nightshift at bush house, or wherever they are these days, at the islamic jihad advance party HQ!

                 10 likes

              • RCE says:

                What? He was all alone?

                So where did his 3 crepuscular ‘likes’ come from, if not his fellow night-shifters?

                It is indeed a mystery…

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          If the truth is political incorrect, then left-wingers become headcases who look as though they are about to head butt the person they disagree with.

          But the truth is not always politically incorrect, so I have not noticed that Laurie Taylor was a headcase, but I suppose we are going to find this is the case tonight.

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  35. Reed says:

    BBC attacked from the left shocker – part 2.
    (admittedly from someone who defines himself as an ‘unreconstructed lefty)…

    #WTW It must be cool to be a correspondent free of any responsibility able to cynically+smuglydeconstruct Obama’s Presidency @jonnydymond— Tag Bogo (@Gabethevegan) January 20, 2013

       1 likes

    • Reed says:

      @gabethevegan I am sorry you found it cynical and smug, it wasn’t intended as such. My responsibility is to report whatI observe #Corr— Jonny Dymond (@JonnyDymond) January 20, 2013

      …at least Mr. Dymond, unlike most, appears to have removed ‘BBC’ from his twitter description. (if it was ever there)

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  36. noggin says:

    oh dear! ….
    looks like the big questions, has many of the usual
    suspects, press tv s ridley has a pride of place, quite a
    few muslim beardies on show … pity they don t immediately turn up in numbers to prevent the murderous atrocites from their fellow cultists in the first place, isn t it.
    I suppose they re so used to seeing it from islamic countries
    eh! … wait a minute :-D
    why don t they all rush over to Saudi then?

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  37. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘There is no agenda I promise’

    ‘no agenda at all I promise. just picked out a stat that was interesting and I thought axiomatic’

    Quotes from BBC bod Nicky Campbell. He has been busy in the Twiiter trenches battling against what he terms as ‘religious rich/republican thing’, ‘religious right’, and ‘patriotic religious rightwing’

    Here’s the link

    https://twitter.com/NickyAACampbell

    Frankly, I say why all the pretence? Twitter is a lefty dominated self-congratulatory hubbub into which the Beeboids venture with their bot pensant soundbites in order to garner support and or mob approval. Anything turns tricky and they run like mad for the my personal thoughts not those of the BBC, my Employer…. ie the British public (no, I can’t square that circle either).

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  38. johnnythefish says:

    BBC R4 news 7am. Queensland bracing itself for the next ‘extreme weather event’ apparently.

    Funny how the BBC rapidly adopted this particular alarmist mantra so soon after the warmist plotters agreed they should shift their focus from the warming (because there wasn’t any) to associating any storm, hurricane, blizzard, flood etc with ‘climate change’.

       8 likes

    • deegee says:

      I come from the Northern plains
      Where the girls and grass are scanty
      Where the creeks run dry or ten feet high
      And it’s either drought or plenty.

      Traditional. From the Queensland Drover published as early as 1865 in The Queenslanders’ New Colonial Fire Song Book but may be much older.

         6 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Queenland is in ‘the tropics’

      It rains a lot in ‘the tropics’..

      Who knew?

      Not the BBC apparently.

         5 likes

  39. George R says:

    “Police, the BBC and even a golf business are among 130 organisations which can fly drones in UK… and experts say numbers will rise ”

    By Kerry McDermott.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268664/Police-BBC-golf-business-130-organisations-fly-drones-UK–experts-say-numbers-rise.html

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  40. Guest Who says:

    The latest peroxide sink jobsworth has posted how wonderful their new propaganda and censorship system will be for the BBC to get out what it selects and prevent what it doesn’t fancy from appearing.
    She is of course answering questions, but only those she fancies. How long before a closing if folk stay off the sycophancy?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogbbcinternet/posts/Welcome-to-the-new-look-Internet-blog?

    Helen Boaden will be proud.

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  41. RCE says:

    Wow. Guardian finally acknowledges the misogyny and bigoted prejudice directed at Sarah Palin on the internet:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/jan/26/mary-beard-question-time-internet-trolls

    Oh. My mistake.

       17 likes

    • deegee says:

      Fewer than one in four British voters believes Islam is compatible with the British way of life? I wonder what is the percentage of Muslim voters who believe it?

         6 likes

    • George R says:

      ‘Jihadwatch’:-

      “Fewer than one in four people think Islam is compatible with British life, UK’s Muslim ‘faith minister’ blames ‘Islamophobia.’”

      [Opening extract]:-

      “Baroness Warsi is working from the same playbook that Hamas-linked CAIR and other Islamic supremacist groups in the U.S., along with compromised academics like Haroon Moghul and a host of other rogues and hacks, use regularly: deflect attention from jihad terror and Islamic supremacism by claiming that the whole thing is a public relations problem trumped up by vicious, bigoted, racist, hateful ‘Islamophobes.’

      “The whole thing is nonsense, of course. If anyone in Britain thinks Islam is incompatible with British life, it is because so many Muslims there behave as if it is. It is because of the rape gangs, the hate preachers, the thuggery on the streets, the jeering at returning military personnel, and all the rest.”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/fewer-than-one-in-four-people-think-islam-is-compatible-with-british-life-uks-muslim-faith-minister.html

         7 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Can it be possible the british public are actually seeing past the propaganda being fed to them at last?
        I live in hope of an awakening that is spreading.

           5 likes

        • Herbert says:

          I wouldn’t like to be part of lefty establishment in this country when the SHTF.
          Ropes, lamposts and cranes come to mind.

             4 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Fewer? I guess the BBC’s social cohesion efforts have failed miserably. I wonder why?

         2 likes

      • noggin says:

        oh … as an adage …
        the myth of the muslim backlash

        http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=518010

        on sayeeda s buddies at MAMA …
        “Have you been a victim of anti-Muslim prejudice such as anti-Muslim comments, incidents or attacks? The MAMA project is inspired by a need expressed by ”
        ya da! ya da! ya da!
        uh oh! …. “We are an alternative reporting system which means that if you want the attack logged and passed onto the Police”.

        …. and she wonders why over 90% of people
        strongly disagree with her line!

        if MAMA and others really want to end any perceived “anti-Muslim bigotry,” rather than use it as a tool to destroy the freedom of speech/bring Sharia and create a protected class for themselves, they need to stand against the many 1000s of Muslim acts of threat, violence, child gang rape, racism even murder, and bloody integrate … rather than setting up cover groups like MAMA, to obviously push a victim narrative

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    • noggin says:

      how about this corker – coming from …
      wait for the sad old “puff ho”
      repeat it because the first one disappeared into
      the ether

      http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=baroness+warsi+speech&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CEEQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2F2013%2F01%2F23%2Fbaroness-warsi-islam-media_n_2537142.html&ei=AV0FUf5Dko3TBfLxgPgK&usg=AFQjCNEUPcvdlGvtEZSNa82p2L0XBpcMyA&bvm=bv.41524429,d.d2k

      Baroness Warsi: Is anybody paying attention?
      Not to her views but what the British public think of them …
      and now where is the bbc on this? normally front row to trumpet such obvious and “projectionist” piffle

      curry money baroness” and OIC plant Warsi thinks the Media is fuelling Anti-Muslim hatred, islamophobia no doubt … her OIC masters are schooling her well :-D
      She has given another speech, (foot and mouth come to mind)
      … erm oh! by the way, who voted for her? did you? would you?

      “The British public don’t agree. They think the Media is doing its job, reporting the world as it is. They blame Muslims themselves.
      In this country, they don’t integrate, they are themselves both racist and homophobic, they keep to themselves, don’t bother to learn or speak English, want their own laws, special treatment for their practices, and do many things which the rest of us find very objectionable,
      Now, the Public are not stupid. They know this is a minority (albeit a very large one, some suspect) but what gets up the nose, is the lack of British Muslims of public standing, pointing this out and calling for change.
      No, we get, or the press does, scolded by the likes of Baroness Warsi.
      Her speech is reported in the Huffington Post and it has so far attracted over 1500 comments, an enormous number. AND! :-D they overwhelmingly disagree with the Baroness.
      Nearly 90% think she is wrong”

      hmmm … makes one in four look a bit tame doesn t it

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  42. George R says:

    SOMALILAND.

    “Britons urged to leave Somaliland”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21222932

    Even though it’s a matter of life and death, INBBC refuses to explain that the cause of the danger is ISLAMIC JIHADISTS.

       9 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Jihadists? Surely not! It just has to be the plague of unicorns, or the man eating crocs?

         5 likes

  43. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Yet another illegal immigrant advocacy piece from the BBC. At least this time they mention the word “illegal”. But the whole thing is told from the perspective, and using the language of amnesty advocates.

    The title says “Undocumented immigrants”, which is the language of the amnesty advocates, one side of the debate. Then the blurb accompanying the piece frames it as US law being responsible for people acting illegally. The term “immigration reform” is also the language – and goal – of the advocates. This is an entirely one-sided piece, just like all other BBC output about illegal immigration in the US.

    Regardless of which side of the issue one is on, the BBC should remain impartial. What you have here is a propaganda piece for a political cause, produced at your expense. When they use the language and speak from the perspective of one side only, it’s bias.

    The biggest problem of all is that this isn’t even really intended to convince you of anything. It’s aimed at a US audience, with an eye towards influencing public opinion. The BBC is a foreign enemy in my country now. Paid for in large part by your license fee.

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  44. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    Note to Chris re the Wilful blindness thread.
    I will not continue the dialogue here. The regulars here have probably had enough of the repeated arguments ( understatement?) to last them awhile. Quite happy to respond to any points if you wish to continue.

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  45. Guest Who says:

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/the-army-game.html?

    ‘Part of the job spec: Recruiting, developing and managing a cadre [a tad military ? Ed] of more than twenty editors.’
    Military? When I hear ‘cadre’ that was not my first thought..

    http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/2658869-communist-cadre-leader-addresses-a-crowd-of-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=PAf4caJyvZouP6mD1LiIsw1ete9EfQw9CaWR1qA%2FJSotvmK%2BOTY3gvZkccCy8lOV

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC actually reported the President’s defeat in the courts over His illegal attempt to circumvent the Senate on appointing His cronies. Naturally, the bulk of the piece is the White House side of the story, with a single line from Rep. Boehner – and nobody from the Senate – about how the court’s decision is a victory for the separation of powers. The BBC also makes sure to get a mention that the judges were “conservative” in among the White House talking points. In case you thought the decision might be legitimate, right, BBC?

    A little more actual background as to the realities of the separation of powers and the reason the rule preventing the President from making unchecked political appointments would have been nice. Of course, key background is only thought necessary by the BBC when it supports their agenda. In this case, it doesn’t help much at all and might detract from the statements of Katty Kay’s personal friend and husband of her business partner. It’s especially important because this second term is going to see the President do everything possible to skirt Congress and Have his minions implement regulations and schemes in place of laws. These appointments are just the tip of iceberg. Not that you’d know any of this from the BBC. To them, only extremists and crypto-racists have any objection to the way He governs.

    I suppose I should just be happy that the BBC didn’t call the judges racist.

    Funny how Hugh Sykes can claim that personal opinions don’t preclude professional balance, but the BBC is very much suggesting that’s false when they point out the political leanings of judges. I, for one, do not believe that BBC journalists are any more likely to remain impartial than a US Circuit Judge. In fact, since judges are much more likely to be held accountable, I’d say the reverse is true.

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  47. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    Kate humble just spent an hour showing us such wonderful science about the rotation of the earth around that big orange thing in the sky. They finally sent her way oop north where the ice aint as thick as it used to be. And she reached the instant conclusion it’s obviously all due to global warming and the effects of man.
    The dozy cow hasn’t yet realised they changed global warming for climate change ages ago on the beeb.

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    • Buggy says:

      “They finally sent her way oop north where the ice aint as thick as it used to be. “

      What ? To Barnsley ?

      This is disturbing news indeed, as it’s an article of faith amongst a familiar breed of professional Northerner (e.g. John Les Prescott, Esq.) that we down here on the Cote de Douvres live lives of heady sybarism in temperatures that never drop below a chilly 70F or so, whilst their own wind-blasted habitations on the tundra only rise above freezing for about 5 minutes in mid-July (just prior to the onset of the 10 month winter beginning in t’ first week in August).

      If the ice is actually melting up there, what could be the dread consequences for those employed in the local factories churning out wolf skin vests, whale skin mackintoshes and boots carved from coal ? Will they all turn “soft” ? Grow bananas as a cash crop ? Go down to the shops without making sure their wills are up-to-date ? Have to cope with regular sightings of a round, yellow hot thing in the sky ?

      Say it’s not so !

      Edit: I see that I’ve described Prezza as a professional Northerner above. Whilst this is true, it doesn’t alter the fact that he’s actually (dah-da-dee-dahhhhh! ) Welsh. Lest we forget. :)

         5 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        It makes my day every time you remind me that barrel of lard is welsh! Fat useless wanker!

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        • Buggy says:

          As mentioned before, Ted “Should’ve Been Strung Up By The Nuts” Heath was one of my fellow Men Of Kent, but fortunately he’s shuffled off and the shame of association will swiftly fade. Lord Lard Arse, on the other hand, lives on. Forever !
          Brains’ new advert:
          “Never Forget Your Welsh: Jaunty John Lard Arse Doesn’t !”

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          • stewart says:

            Kentishman (Bexley is west of the medway) surely?

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            • Buggy says:

              I wish he was a Kentish Man (two words), as those of us blessed to be born on the other side of the Medway have been pleased to look down on them ever since the day they couldn’t be arsed to turn up at the “Let’s Threaten William The Bastard” shindy at Swanscombe (on their own side of the river no less), and Heath would fit right in with their number.

              Sadly, the git was born at Broadstairs so he was one of us.

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          • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

            I cant bring myself to like that post!

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  48. George R says:

    Not a BBC-NUJ report:-

    “Rise of ‘white flight’: British families are ‘self-segregating’ as more Caucasians abandon urban areas for the countryside ”

    By Emma Reynolds.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2269058/British-families-self-segregate-whites-abandon-urban-areas-countryside.html

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    • Dave s says:

      I read the article. Hands will be wrung but it will be ignored.
      You do not have to be a genius to have predicted this although the figures do surprise me. i had thought the white flight to have been a bit less.
      I have written about this before a few times. The key is in the children and the need to go comes when the child is around 11.
      This is the most serious social problem of our time and what do we have- a governing class obssessing over “gay marriage”
      The fools do not see what is happening. London and other cities are soon to be abandoned. The crunch will come when the indigenous people no longer have a place to run to.
      This is what happens and what has happened endlessly in this world. It is the way of things and of peoples.

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    • Reed says:

      One of the comments…

      ——
      quote…”better schools, fresher air and backgrounds” might be the reason, we all know the real reason, so why not say it?
      ——

      We know why people are unwilling to say it, but that is beginning to change. Witness Question Time recently, much to the disgust of those who have deliberately created the atmosphere in which people have been reluctant to speak up for so long.

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      • Mark says:

        And I always thought that people enjoyed living in our **vibrant** cities !

        More seriously, this voluntary flight could result in fewer marginal seats, and an ever-growing base of diehard safe Labour ones.

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  49. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    How long before the inbbc gets somone on screen to tell us it’s kicking off everywhere in Egypt.
    What could possibly be going wrong in that wonderful democratic country?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Good thing the President made that video in Cairo, right? His diplomacy is going so well that we’re now sending Morsi a bunch of fighter jets.

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    • deegee says:

      The Muslem Brotherhood has been anti American since the 1950s when Sayyid Qutb returned condemning America, its its materialism, individual freedoms, economic system, racism, brutal boxing matches, “poor” haircuts, superficiality in conversations and friendships, restrictions on divorce, enthusiasm for sports, lack of artistic feeling, “animal-like” mixing of the sexes (which “went on even in churches”), and strong support for the new Israeli state.

      I don’t think an obsequious speech or even billions of aid will change that.

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